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2020 Jan 17 19:19:18
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 17 18:37:01
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2020 Jan 17 18:14:15
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 17 13:39:36
Sophorn: Many greetings to everyone,

2020 Jan 17 13:39:19
Sophorn:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 17 10:29:19
Johann: "so, now I go up and clear the area a little, make some merits, and I will not share my merits, with anybody..."  ^-^

2020 Jan 17 08:49:11
Chanroth: ធ្វើអាស្រមហើយចេញពីរសេចក្ដីល្អ ធ្វើអ្វីដើម្បីខ្លួល្អជាង

2020 Jan 17 08:45:08
Chanroth: សូមលាហើយ

2020 Jan 17 08:33:16
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 17 06:56:27
Johann: A blessed and fruitful Uposatha, those observing it today.

2020 Jan 17 06:45:45
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 17 06:44:49
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 16 23:01:31
Moritz: Mr. Lew _/\_

2020 Jan 15 14:16:00
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 15 11:15:29
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 15 11:12:01
Johann: Nyom

2020 Jan 15 10:24:02
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Jan 15 10:21:50
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 15 10:11:56
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 22:22:36
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 12 22:04:02
Moritz: _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:34:30
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:31:02
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, may happiness come to fullfillment, all

2020 Jan 12 21:27:15
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ Visitor _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:26:54
Cheav Villa:  Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:26:06
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:24:21
Moritz: Visitor _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:24:09
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:23:59
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:23:50
Johann: Good on working isn't a bad reservation. Sokh chomreoun

2020 Jan 12 21:16:12
Cheav Villa: I kana in working conditions in the ministry  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 17:24:45
Johann: How is Nyom Villa doing? Seems as if more reserved

2020 Jan 11 21:30:11
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 11 21:27:10
Johann: On the other side it's just visible for Aramika, so also fine to leave it as it is.

2020 Jan 11 21:18:06
Johann: but possible good to change it, since looking of course strange

2020 Jan 11 21:17:02
Johann: The visitor account, since enail needed, has Atmas email, yes. Nothing wrong, Nyom.

2020 Jan 11 21:10:13
Cheav Villa: Mr. Visitor is using Bhante mail on Sangham ^-^ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 11 17:28:39
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 Jan 11 17:19:29
Johann: Well then. Mudita. And to use old account is also no problem, or a new one.

2020 Jan 11 17:13:25
Visitor:  *sgift* Will return soon. will share one from lot.  :) Stay healthy. Be happy.

2020 Jan 11 17:06:13
Johann: Sure, why not? An also sure that Atma will try what ever possible that Nyom-Deva would take on existance where Dhamma can completely comprehended. My Nyom do as he feels fit and inspired.

2020 Jan 11 17:03:02
Visitor: For I am out of community and practice to be independent too -- decided when couldn't find Gem(liberated one, buddha, venerable).

2020 Jan 11 17:00:13
Visitor: If I share one of those practices, will uncle allow that? Will uncle give way to me to give as a 'Visitor'? Even when it's out of community.

2020 Jan 11 16:57:53
Johann: It's importand to see that liberation is possible, and people having gained independency are met = Savaka Sangha

2020 Jan 11 16:55:26
Johann: It's importand, aside of the deva-messangers, birth, sickness, aging death, to meet the Buddha, Arahat, Samana, so that real Saddha may arise. Books hardly can provide such "it's not just a story"

2020 Jan 11 16:50:04
Visitor: Practice leads to experience -coming slowly-2 me already. Did uncle find any Gems(Ven. Buddha) to associate with?

2020 Jan 11 16:45:42
Johann: Only by practicing and association with the Gems can Dhamma be gained. Consuming 1000 book wouldn't help

2020 Jan 11 16:43:02
Johann: What does one, seeing his decay, keep him from sharing?

2020 Jan 11 16:41:31
Johann: Giving ways to let others give is also a-maccariya

2020 Jan 11 16:39:42
Johann: And books are lasting? Sharing about oldage, sickness and death is teaching the 1 Noble truth very real, or?

2020 Jan 11 16:35:58
Visitor: What does old uncle want to offer when he is also impermanent? Dhamma-it's already in books! Experience-it will come soon to me too.

2020 Jan 11 16:30:29
Johann: If needing something, just let it be known (any language

2020 Jan 11 16:29:50
Johann: Nyom unknown

2020 Jan 11 16:28:47
Visitor:  *thumb* :-\ :( ;-) *gift*

2020 Jan 11 08:13:55
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2020 Jan 11 08:11:25
Moritz: Oh, I just wanted to write something to you, Bong Villa. But now have to go, driving taxi. ^-^ Later. _/\_ Chom reap leah

2020 Jan 11 08:05:56
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 11 07:46:49
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 10 19:57:45
Johann: Bhante

2020 Jan 10 19:37:57
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 Jan 10 16:11:19
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 10 12:07:13
Johann: Sokh chomreoun Nyom

2020 Jan 10 11:34:53
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 10 11:08:47
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 10 11:00:22
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 10 06:05:50
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 10 05:02:29
Johann: May those keeping the full moon Uposatha today, spend an auspicious time engaged in merits

2020 Jan 09 20:17:28
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 20:07:28
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 18:57:51
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Those who have confidence in the Awakened One have confidence in what is supreme; and for those with confidence in the supreme, supreme is the result.

2020 Jan 09 17:33:14
Cheav Villa:  :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 16:13:20
Johann: No problem at all.

2020 Jan 09 16:12:52
Johann: Atma wrote: Oh, master Moritz celebrates his Birthday today. And if remembering right, just one day before Mastress Sophorn.

2020 Jan 09 16:11:21
Johann:  :)

2020 Jan 09 16:10:58
Johann: oh that is bad: Nyom needs to cite Thor Twai bpngum 5 times

2020 Jan 09 16:09:02
Cheav Villa: I kana sorry for deleted <.I.> _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 16:05:44
Cheav Villa: All the best wishes to you Master Moritz  _/\_ :D

2020 Jan 09 08:29:01
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 07:08:24
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Sadhu

2020 Jan 09 06:16:07
Johann: A blessed Uposatha those who maintain it today

2020 Jan 09 04:50:31
Khemakumara: Nyom

2020 Jan 08 22:06:08
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Jan 08 21:45:09
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 08 20:55:46
Khemakumara: Nyom

2020 Jan 08 20:47:42
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 08 18:48:15
Johann: Bhante

2020 Jan 08 18:17:17
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 08 15:14:05
Johann: Nyom

2020 Jan 08 14:02:20
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 08 08:04:30
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 07 21:10:49
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu

2020 Jan 07 21:05:36
saddhamma: I hope, Bhante Johann has regained some strength and that Bhante's health is improving.

2020 Jan 07 17:50:15
Johann: 3 robes (2 and 1 two-layer as it may be cold) and if the Sangha, out of compassion would give full ordination before leaving, this would be outstanding blessing for the Sangha, counting a non-returner in their community..

2020 Jan 07 17:45:55
Johann: Plastic robe is also dangerous it not having a proper, and to have some light proper shoes along the way isn't a faul for hard paths through the burning lands.

2020 Jan 07 17:42:18
Johann: It'[ good if both strong Asthmatics have enought and right inhalation spray with them, since strong fires will come soon, althought they feel great for now.

2020 Jan 07 17:38:53
Johann: Start of the Migration periode. May all arrive at asokaṃ khemaṃ soon and with ease

2020 Jan 07 17:24:05
Moritz: On the 11th also, Bong Sophorn is planning to arrive in Phnom Penh _/\_

2020 Jan 07 17:12:57
Cheav Villa: I Kana got from Bangthy, Bhante Khemakumara was told to leave Wat Akyum on the 11th for Thudong.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 07 17:02:12
Johann: Nyom

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Author Topic: [English] Sarvastivada School of Realism, by Venerable Vira Avalokita  (Read 3514 times)

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I am very grateful that Venerable Vira Avalokita, an outstanding Humanist and dear and respected Dhammafriend of mine has generously shared his works and views with me within certain works.

I have to say - and this should be not regarded as disrespect - that I am not much into certain views which does not mean that it might be not beneficial for others. Many of them, not all, are strong against the refection which is found in the heritage of the Tipitaka and also not easy to argue in a Dhammic way. So it's generally a very secular approach.

Since he is a person who does neither found raising nor promote his work much aside of own hard work and deeds, I am sure it would be from benefit if somebody feels inspired to help in works like reformatting and all other technical stuff aside, reading and study the Dharma-Dana and maybe finding interest to investigate some similar roots of certain Mahayana-schools and Theravada. It might be also form interest of those who see their benefits in the "Bodhisattva" path and in certain Zen aspects. There are also a lot of philosophical anchors to bring worldly science and Dhamma on a graspable level, if one does not like to let go of one. 

Although he had neither wished, directly suggested nor answered a request in regard of further contribution of his work directly, I trust that it is proper to share it further and leave it up to its good course.

Sarvastivada School of Realism

 I.   Sarvastivada Teachings:
A.   Basic Claim:  The ultimate constituents that make up interdependent arising are real; otherwise nothing could possibly exist.
B. Ultimate constituents of reality = Dharmas.
1.   Dharmas are held to be “self-existing.” 
The existence of dharmas is not dependent on anything else.

2. Dharmas have their own nature
    – each has a unique and defining characteristic.
C. Analysis is analogous to contemporary scientific theory: 
           ordinary perception versus scientific analysis.
II.    Foundations of Theories:

           Sarvastivadin theory is based on Scientific Inquire, which contains classification of objects (dharmas) based on experience.
A.  Sarvastivadain Theoretical Reasoning
1.   Basic Objective: 
To show, that the Dharmas are the ultimately real and self-existing.  All other reality is constructed from them.
2.   Establishing Reality:
The reality of a person comes from the reality of the person’s constitutive processes.  But persons are real only if the constituents are real. 

3.   Identity:
 The ultimate constituents determine identity.  Without identity there could be no Buddha, no-one on the Eightfold Path, etc.
4.   Continuity:
The dharmas must have sufficient duration to support successive moments of existence.  Otherwise, the person who experience dukkha is not the same person who later practices the path.  Then there would be no point in practice.
5.   Knowablity: unless the dharmas are fundamentally real, knowledge is impossible.  We believed that the momentary duration of the existence of dharmas makes them knowable as unique objects.
6.   Types of Ultimate Constituents:  In addition to the traditional Theory lists, Sarvastivadins added other dharmas to explain know ability, continuity, and identity.

III.      Arguments against Substance:

            Buddhists generally argue against existence as a substance common to Hindu thought (especially Nyaya and Vaisheshika). Basic Argument: Either the substance view of existence is true or interdependent arising is true. The substance view is untenable.  Therefore, interdependent arising is true.
A.      The Concept of Substance
1.  Permanence – essences are unchanging.
2.  Universality – essence is the same everywhere at all times.
3.   Identity – substances are identical to themselves despite change.
4.   Unity – the components or characteristics of a thing are unified by inherence in a substance.
B.       Arguments against Permanence
1.   The Upanishad’s assume that if something is ultimately real it must be changeless.  But whatever is unchanging cannot produce effects, since effects involve change.  Causes can be known only by effects.  If reality is changeless, it is therefore unknowable (reductio).

2.   Knowledge argument:  Coming to know something involves a change in the knower.  If the self cannot change, it cannot know.

3.   Causality argument: Change is fact of our experience.  But how can something unchanging bring about change.  Causation is either temporally extended or instantaneous.  It can’t be instantaneous; there could be further change.

4.   If the real causes instantaneously, either it continues to exist as a cause or it doesn’t.  If it does continue to exist as a cause, it would give rise to the very same effects (unless it changed, which it can’t).  If ceases to exist as cause, it has changed.

5.   Temporally extended causality: If R produces x, y, and z, then either [1] y or z could have been produced while x was produced or [2] R could not produce y and z while x was produced. [1] is absurd, because this amounts to instantaneous causation.  [2] is absurd because if at any time R cannot produce y or z, there is no time when R can produce them – unless there are other causal conditions, which would amount to a change in R.
C.   Arguments against Identity:
      Substance view of identity entails that a thing remains identical to itself through time unless it is destroyed or altered by outside forces.  The our argument is that unless the nature of an object were change and cessation, no outside force could alter it or bring about its demise.
D.   Arguments against Unity: 
The substance assumption is that while an object is composed of parts, we can know it as a whole.  We argue that perception only gives us parts.  There is no direct perceptual evidence of unity.  Instead, unity is a construction of mind onto our experience that has pragmatic value. Reality is no more than successive momentary elements – like the pictures that flow together to form a film.

E.   Arguments against Universality:  Universal essences are what unite particulars into a single category.  We argue:
1. Perception gives us only particular things.
2. By what mechanism do universals reside in particular things?
3. Why are universals unaffected by what happens to particulars?
4. How can universals be known?  One answer appears to be a kind of “double perception.”  One perceives not only the particular object, but also the universal, which is then applied to the object.  But how can we perceive timeless, space less universals?  We contend that universals are practical mental construction (abstractions) that we create for various useful purposes.

Our Views:

A.   Are Constant with the following:
1.   Broad-based Ethics and Humanism

a)   Free Thinking, Reason and Scientific
Commensurate with social structure of the times

2.   Uses current languages has not special language.

3.   there is no closed Canon

B.   The Buddha

1.   Was historical
2.   Not beyond infallibility
3.   Nothing extraordinary about him
4.   Not everything he said was a Law or perfect

C.   The Sangha
1.   Is open to all
2.   Democratic
3.   Can change with the times
4.   All  Discipline is changeable

Dr.  Vira Avalokita, Dai Shi

The author of these various works is the Venerable Vira Avalokita, Sthera
A registered Left-Home Person (63 Showa) of Mt. Koyasan in Japan.

Sensei has practiced now for almost thirty years as Buddhist teacher in Cambodia, Japan and the United States. He is presently has a residence in Phnom Penh, Cambodia, where he serves the sick
And the poor has been for fifteen years.

Now Sensei teaches about Scientific and Humanistic Buddhism
All his written works relate to this subject exclusively.
He writes from a Mulasarvastian perspective, a realistic school,
All of these Theories were first taught by Gautama Buddha,
And were expanded and explained by Saint Kōbō Daishi (9th century)
Founder of Mt. Kōysan, Shingon Shu, Japan

For detail questions, you may contact Bhante Vira Avalokita him directly.

Koyasan MulaSarvāstivādan School
Volume I-IV
Vira Avalokita, Sthera

Volume I - Foundations and Theories

Volume II - Theory in Practice

Volume III - Ritual Practices

Volume IV - Ritual Practices



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