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2019 Mar 26 01:18:56
Cheav Villa:  :D _/\_

2019 Mar 26 01:18:46
Cheav Villa: មិនខុសពីរឿងទៅសុំសៀវភៅសន្ទនានុក្រម នៅវ ត្ត បញ្ញា​ និង..

2019 Mar 26 01:16:15
Cheav Villa: កូណា ជារឿងដែលម្នាក់បានទទួលស្តាប់ និងធ្វើតាមតែមិនបានសំរេច តាមគោលដៅ :D _/\_

2019 Mar 25 15:28:24
Johann: Others, even if pure, is open for critic and bad assumings. Envy, jealously... on each side. So to become not susbected, needs good advices, double hard for woman to act perfect.

2019 Mar 25 15:23:21
Johann: Pappies can give good lessons when they don't fall, but the deeper, the hard training, must come from liberal mommies for daughters and liberal pappies for sons, in the world and for beyond.

2019 Mar 25 15:11:15
Cheav Villa:   _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 15:04:40
Johann: Does mommy generally don't actually love her child when not react?

2019 Mar 25 15:03:13
Johann: Mommy, mommy... but I like... ohh, they bite me... I am hungry... when do we go back?... why must we sit here... mommy!

2019 Mar 25 15:00:37
Johann: Which can be changed all the time, with feeding rightly.

2019 Mar 25 14:55:50
Cheav Villa: កូណាសង្ឃឹមថា.​ ជារឿងឧបនិស្ស័យ.​  :D _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:50:25
Johann: ...teaching and mirror.

2019 Mar 25 14:49:40
Johann: When one is stressed or busy, remember how many times one him/herself was so as well. Intention will always has it's effects, sometimes quick, sometimes even sisters, mother and child... Nyom wouldn't have become here, if there would be not long, long bounds. Watch your child. Thats always a great t

2019 Mar 25 14:40:41
Cheav Villa: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:39:48
Cheav Villa: ព្រោះកូណាមិនអាចទៅឱរ៉ាល់បានកំឡុងពេលនេះ តែអាចជួបនៅភ្នំពេញបាន តែចេតនាម្ខាងមិនចង់ជួប ទើបមិនអាចជួប

2019 Mar 25 14:38:39
Cheav Villa: កូណាគ្រាន់តែចង់បញ្ជាក់អំពីចេតនា ដែលម្នាក់មាន និងម្នាក់គ្មាន ក្នុងការ​ជួបគ្នា.ជាហេតុមិនបានជួប :D _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:37:02
Cheav Villa:    _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 13:44:16
Johann: Nyom Vithou. Foot well again?

2019 Mar 25 11:56:36
Johann: Good stories: The Healing of the Bull and Prisoners of Karma .

2019 Mar 25 11:51:20
Johann: Although monks are allowed to explain how to work oneself out, they are not given to liberate "slaves", prisoner, as this would count as thief.

2019 Mar 25 11:46:29
Johann: When one is "bond" in families, relations... there is so much soil and danger for envy and jealously, and itjs not easy to "pay" one out. Normal being live from making others depending on one and fear to lose a "cattle" they gave so much into.

2019 Mar 25 09:53:57
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 Mar 25 05:00:43
Johann: Some pull back and offer favors, less are giving ways out. Let them wishing to live in cities go back, maintaining homes. Bond by mara there is no escape, they leave alm bowls behind and step into cars, to "help".

2019 Mar 25 04:11:30
Johann: One (who ever) gives the best when helping, assist, in sharing Dhamma, translate it, sort it, easy accessable and maintain it, by proper and given means.

2019 Mar 25 04:03:32
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2019 Mar 25 03:53:23
Johann: One stopped at the topic Sangahak, worldily and best. It's hard to try to translate but bears a lot of fruits. Conceit is dangerous, and a feeling of "right" turns quick into lose. Satipatthana, the right workingplaces. And again Ways of  

2019 Mar 25 02:53:11
Kong Sokdina: ដំណើរផ្លូវឆ្ងាយ មិនប្រមាណ បាននូវសេចក្ដីប្រមាថ។

2019 Mar 24 18:54:30
Cheav Villa: ជាចិត្តលំអៀងព្រោះជំពាក់ក្នុងសេចក្តីស្រលាញ់សាច់ញាតិ​ បងប្អូន.​ ឪពុកម្ដាយ​  ^-^

2019 Mar 24 18:49:47
Cheav Villa: ជារឿងដដែល យូរណាស់មកហើយ  ខ្ញុំ​កូណាគួរតែបានរកឃើញផ្លូវកណ្តាល​  :) _/\_

2019 Mar 24 18:48:21
Cheav Villa: ការជាប់ជំពាក់នៅក្នុងការជួយអ្នកដទៃ ការជាប់ជំពាក់នៅក្នុងការចង់អោយគេបានសុខ តែងនាំសេចក្តីទុក្ខ ដល់ខ្លួន

2019 Mar 24 13:23:44
Johann: Nyom Senghour

2019 Mar 23 06:34:02
Johann: No problem Nyom Vithou.

2019 Mar 23 04:32:25
Vithou: ngyom kuna will inform Preah Ang later when kuna get better

2019 Mar 23 04:31:12
Vithou: Preah Ang, ngyom kuna cannot go Phnom Aural tomorrow due to my foot problem. I let is a bit pain and Ngyom kuna cannot walk properly

2019 Mar 20 19:02:36
Johann: May Nyom have a safe and careful travel, when ever he might do.

2019 Mar 20 18:46:53
Johann: Now, Nyom Moritz and Nyom Sophorn are here in the forest. Atma does not know how long.

2019 Mar 20 18:20:42
Vithou: Nyom Kuna planning to see Moritz and Bong Sophorn as well

2019 Mar 20 18:17:26
Vithou: Nyom Kuna planning to go Phnom Oral on Sunday

2019 Mar 20 18:16:07
Vithou: Nyom Kuna was sick too long after remove kidney stone . ( about 2 months ) and skittle busy with human job

2019 Mar 20 18:13:50
Vithou: Is Moritz and Bong Sophorn at Asram now?

2019 Mar 20 18:12:02
Vithou: Kuna Preah Ang

2019 Mar 20 18:05:01
Johann: Nyom Vithou

2019 Mar 20 12:25:25
Johann: here and now

2019 Mar 20 09:04:34
Cheav Villa: To reach the end of the cosmos to go beyond   _/\_

2019 Mar 20 08:49:03
Johann: Oh.. wrong, here: Rohitassa Sutta

2019 Mar 20 08:45:24
Johann: There is nothing to far that the mind, oneself, could not reach it in the Universe. Yet end of suffering can not found. But it requires to reach the end of the cosmos to go beyound. Lokayatika Sutta

2019 Mar 20 08:14:55
Chanroth:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 20 06:34:16
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាសូមថ្វាយបង្គំុ Vandami Bhante ពីចំងាយ

2019 Mar 20 06:32:27
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 សាធុុ សាធុ សាធុ! ថ្ងៃឧបោសថ ករុណាសូមចូលរួមត្រេកអរដែរ😇🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Mar 20 06:13:30
Johann: Mudita

2019 Mar 20 05:52:37
Cheav Villa: ថ្ងៃឧបោសថ​  :)​ កូណាចូលរួមត្រេកអរដល់សេរីភាពរបស់ពួកគាត់  _/\_

2019 Mar 19 13:56:41
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2019 Mar 19 08:47:34
Johann: Knowing this, one is able to share family (of supporter), honor, dwelling, gains, dhamma, having a clear sense of gratitude.

2019 Mar 19 08:44:19
Johann: And what is the reason of macchariya disapearing? Knowning, remembering, form, sound...ideas are no refuge, not real, not worthy to fall for, not ones own.

2019 Mar 19 08:41:50
Johann: "May macchariya (stinginess) become its needed reduce, so that the goodness of Dhamma may reaches more intensive", is that right translated? Sadhu. Not an easy task althought one might think.

2019 Mar 19 08:07:30
Cheav Villa: សូមអោយមច្ឆរិយ.​ ត្រូវបានកាត់បន្ថយ ដើម្បីគុណធម៌ដែលខ្ពស់ជាង _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 19 01:39:39
Johann: May all have always a good travel, meet each other in best furtune along there ways. May no one get hurt in the traffic after happiness.

2019 Mar 18 10:21:51
Moritz: hello empty yogi _/\_

2019 Mar 18 10:21:23
Moritz: Vandami bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 18 10:21:22
Moritz: Vandami bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 16 08:19:42
Johann:  _/\_ Bhante Indannano

2019 Mar 15 04:20:37
Johann: Nyom Buddhi

2019 Mar 14 16:00:28
Cheav Villa: កូណា​ថ្វាយបង្គំ​លា​ សូមព្រះអង្គឆាប់បានសំរាក​  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 14 09:13:11
Kong Sokdina: Hello!

2019 Mar 14 08:35:17
Johann: Nyom Kong Sokdina

2019 Mar 14 08:10:07
Johann: A meritful Sila-day those who observe it today

2019 Mar 13 11:18:19
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 13 09:23:36
Johann: A meritful Sila-day those who observe it today, btw.

2019 Mar 10 02:03:42
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Mar 09 07:45:59
Moritz: Good morning, Cheav Villa _/\_

2019 Mar 07 12:10:15
Cheav Villa: កូណាព្រះអង្គ  _/\_

2019 Mar 07 12:05:44
Johann: My person is not sure but Nyom Chanroths wife might try to go back from PP tomorrow as well, Nyom.

2019 Mar 07 01:21:24
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 07 01:18:59
Johann: May you have a safe and slow travel.

2019 Mar 07 01:10:20
Cheav Villa: ចេញពី​ភ្នំពេញ​នៅម៉ោង5ព្រឹក :)  _/\_

2019 Mar 07 01:09:25
Cheav Villa: ពួកខ្ញុំកូណា និង បង​ភឿន​ នឹងទៅសួរសុខទុក្ខព្រះអង្គនៅថ្ងៃស្អែក

2019 Mar 07 01:08:34
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Mar 07 01:07:32
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:31:04
Cheav Villa: Have a good day to Master Moritz  _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:29:38
Moritz: And good night for me. :) Chom reap leah. May all have a good Uposatha _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:27:51
Moritz: Good morning, Cheav Villa _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:17:49
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:05:26
Johann: A self-blessed (by ones deeds) Uposathaday today.

2019 Mar 05 11:33:43
Johann: Nyom Chanroth had to stop the work. To difficult to concentrate today. Good training anyway.

2019 Mar 05 10:20:56
Cheav Villa:  :-\ :D _/\_

2019 Mar 05 05:26:54
Johann: A meritful Uposatha those who observe it today.

2019 Mar 05 03:13:37
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu. Rupam anicca

2019 Mar 05 01:47:58
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាបារម្ភអំពីសុខភាពរបស់ព្រះអង្គពីចំងាយ 🙏🏻ករុណាសូមប្រគេនពរ ព្រះអង្គឆាប់ជាសះស្បេីយ

2019 Mar 05 01:38:52
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាឮថា ព្រះអង្គអាពាធ ជង្គង់ តេីព្រះអង្គបានធូរស្បេីយហេីយឬនៅ?

2019 Mar 05 01:07:09
Ieng Puthy: Good morning ! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ Vandami Bante

2019 Mar 04 14:41:21
Johann: Sukha Chomreoun, Nyom

2019 Mar 04 14:18:03
Moritz: Leaving now. May Bhante have a good day. _/\_

2019 Mar 04 13:45:50
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Mar 04 13:19:43
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 01 16:35:39
Johann: Bhante Indannano  _/\_ How was India in "war times"

2019 Feb 28 11:46:56
Moritz: And good bye again. :) _/\_

2019 Feb 28 11:46:38
Moritz: Vandami, Bhante _/\_

2019 Feb 28 05:25:27
Cheav Villa:   :D_/\_

2019 Feb 28 04:22:46
Johann: 5 o'clock morning  ^-^ (like a taxi driver) may Nyom has well earned and peaceful rest. Mudita.

2019 Feb 28 04:08:09
Moritz: Chom reap leah. I'm going to sleep. _/\_

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Folk Buddhism - Volksbuddhismus  (janakathā) [Forum Guide]

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Werte Dhammafreunde,
Werte sangham.net Besucher,

Dieses Unterforum ist dazu gedacht, sich über die verschieden buddhistischen Bräuche, die sich über die Jahrhunderte, aus einer Vermengung der Dhamma – Vinaya Tradition mit anderen Glaubensrichtungen und regionalen Gepflogenheiten entwickelt haben, auszutauschen.

Wenn Sie als Sanghamitta angemeldet sind, sind die zahlreichen Unterforen für Sie nicht sichtbar, um sie generell nicht zu viel mit ablenkenden Themen zu konfrontieren. Bitte wählen Sie die Mitgliedschaft "Anussavika" aus, um alle Foren hier einzusehen. Dieser Bereich ist jedoch Gästen voll einsehbar.

Dieser große Abschnitt des Forums kann als  für jenes betrachtet werden, was man im Volksmund Buddhismus in all seinen kulturellen Farben und Adaptionen bezeichnet. Auch Kultur, Tradition und Folklore, die Gepflogenheiten einer Gesellschaft, sind Grundlage für eine erfolgreiche Praxis des Dhammas. Hier ist es willkommen, die verschiedenen kulturellen Aspekte kennen zu lernen, zu diskutieren und zu teilen, die etwas Einblick in die Entwicklung der Gesellschaft um Zusammenwirken mit den Schülern Buddhas und der originalen Gemeinschaft geben.

An vielen Orten hat sich die Tradition Buddhas mit anderen Volksglaubensrichtungen vermengt und vielfältige Imitationen geschaffen, die alle zumindest Spuren des Originals enthalten und vom großen Einfluß eines einzigartigen Lehrers beeinflusst sind.

Sie sind herzlich eingeladen, vielleicht auch ihrer eigenen kulturellen Wurzeln in Verbindung mit Dhammatradition vorzustellen.

Ein wichtiger Aspekt dieses Forums ist auch, stets zwischen Volksadaptionen und dem Original etwas besser unterscheiden zu lernen, und umgekehrt, vielleicht Anlaß für neue Adaptionen, die in anderen Gesellschaftskreisen entdeckt werden, zu übernehmen. 




Wie im Sigalovada Sutta gut dargestellt, hielt Buddha nicht viel davon, neue Volkstraditionen (im weiteren Sinn Religionen) zu etablieren. Hingegen gab er den Menschen einen Inhalt zu ihren leitenden Gepflogenheiten.
Hierzu interessant ist vielleicht eine kurze Einleitung und Überstetzung des „Sigalovada Sutta: Die Lehrrede an den jungen Sigala“ unter dem Titel: Die traditionslose Tradition verstehen .

Kultur und Tradition ist wichtig für die Menschen, sowie es für ein Kind wichtig ist, sich an einfache Riten und Regeln zu halten. Dies ermöglicht die Grundlage für eine weitere Praxis aber auch einen geregelten Umgang in einer weltlichen Gesellschaft. Ebenfalls interessant zu diesem Thema ist der Artikel: Eine Tür zum Dhamma

Allgemein zum Thema „Wichtigkeit der Kultur und Tradition“ und vielleicht bezeichnend für alle mag dieser „Aufruf“ zur Pflege und Wiederherstellung der eigenen Kultur sein (Anm: dieser ist sinngemäß für alle in gleichem Maße gültig, auch wenn es sich hier an eine bestimmte Gruppe richtet)


Unser Erbe bewahren

Nordamerika ist ein Schmelztiegel. Wir Kambodschaner leben hier erst seit einer Generation. In den letzten Jahren haben wir uns auch in Europa, in Australien und in ganz Asien angesiedelt. Indem wir in einem neuen Land unser Leben wieder aufbauen, werden wir Teil einer neuen Gesellschaft. Es ist wichtig für uns, dabei auch unsere kulturelle Identität aufrecht zu erhalten. Ohne unsere Kultur werden wir uns verloren vorkommen und verwirrt sein wie Fische auf dem Trockenen. Die Kambodschaner besitzen ein kostbares Erbe. Der Reichtum beinhaltet viele Gaben:

* Kambodschaner sind furchtlos, denn sie können Zorn, Begierde und Wahn überwinden.
* Kambodschaner sind bescheiden, höflich und edel.
* Kambodschaner sind Mütter und Vätern dankbar, denen, die sie leiten, ihrem Land und der ganzen Welt.
* Kambodschaner halten sich an die fünf moralischen Regeln aller Menschlichkeit, und an das Dharma des Gut-Seins.
* Kambodschaner besitzen Achtsamkeit und klares Verständnis als Beschützer.
* Kambodschaner praktizieren liebevolle Güte, Mitgefühl, mitfühlende Freude und Gleichmut.
* Kambodschaner sind geduldig. Sie können große Schwierigkeiten, großes Leid und Härten ertragen.
* Kambodschaner vergessen und vergeben die Fehler anderer Menschen. Sie lernen aus der Vergangenheit. Sie nutzen die Gegenwart, um die Zukunft zu errichten.
* Kambodschaner sind wahrheitsliebend und maßvoll in ihrem Verhalten. Sie folgen dem mittleren Weg.
* Kambodschaner sind sanft und freundlich. Sie reden aufrichtig, liebevoll und mit Sinn für das Praktische, klar, vibrierend und süß. Was sie sagen, besitzt Kraft, den Geist von Furcht zu befreien, ihn vom Wahn zu reinigen und ihn zu stärken.
* Kambodschaner kennen die Tradition der Solidarität. Sie sind vereint durch den Buddhismus und durch ihre Liebe zum Dharma.

Wenn wir in einen Fluß steigen, fließen wir mit dem Strom des Wassers mal nach rechts, mal nach links. Aber wir können unser Boot nicht vergessen: unsere Tradition. Mögen die Kambodschaner, wie alle Buddhas, Friedensstifter sein. Mögen wir in der Tradition unseres heiligen Landes Einheit, liebevolle Güte und Frieden praktizieren, vereint mit tiefster Dankbarkeit.

Obgleich dieser Aufruf in seinem Wesen sehr gut und wegweisend ist, sieht man dennoch auch sofort die Gefahr darin. Nationalstolz und Rassendenkweise und viele andere Gefahren schlummern in diesem Verständnis, wenn es nicht verstanden wird und der Selbstglaube sehr stark vorhanden ist.
Allzu gerne verwechselt man das Boot mit dem Ziel, und anstatt es entsprechend seiner Natur bis zum Ende so zu nutzen, um ans andere Ufer zu kommen, werden diese Boote gerne in den Trockenhafen gestellt und vor lauter Angst, daß sie einmal nicht mehr sein sollten, bewacht, verteidigt und stets restauriert.
So wie es mit einem Boot ist, das zu lange im Trockenen steht, wird es, wenn man es wieder ins Wasser setzt, lecken und untergehen, da die Dichtmasse zwischen den Planken ausgetrocknet ist.

Der Körper ist so vergänglich wie das Boot oder einzelne Traditionen. Es macht keinen Sinn, sich gegen die Natur zu wehren, aber es macht Sinn, diesen Körper entsprechend seiner Notwendigkeit zu erhalten und zu pflegen, ohne dabei in Eitelkeit oder Narzissmus zu verfallen.

Wenn wir das Zusammenspiel zwischen Boot und Inhalt verstehen, ist der Zeitpunkt gekommen, an dem wir uns über Tradition erheben können.

Buddha warnte die Mönche, hohe Lehren über den Geist und die Unbeständigkeit des Körpers gewöhnlichen Menschen zu lehren, und riet dazu ihnen den Körper als Beobachtungsobjekt für das „Selbst“ zu belassen:


Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Es ist besser, ihr Bhikkhus, wenn ein ununterrichteter gewöhnlicher Mensch diesen Körper, der aus den vier groben Elementen gebildet ist, als sein Selbst annimmt (*f170), nicht aber das Denken.
Warum das? Man sieht, ihr Bhikkhus, wie dieser Körper, der aus den vier groben Elementen gebildet ist, ein Jahr besteht, wie er zwei Jahre besteht, wie er drei Jahre besteht, wie er vier Jahre besteht, wie er fünf Jahre besteht, wie er zehn Jahre besteht, wie er zwanzig Jahre besteht, wie er dreißig Jahre besteht, wie er vierzig Jahre besteht, wie er fünfzig Jahre besteht, wie er ein Jahrhundert besteht, wie er noch länger besteht. Was aber da, ihr Bhikkhus, Denken heißt und Geist und Bewußtsein, da entsteht bei Nacht und bei Tag eines und ein anderes wird aufgehoben (*f171).

8. Gerade so, ihr Bhikkhus, wie ein Affe, der in der Wildnis, im Walde sich ergeht, einen Zweig ergreift, und wenn er ihn losgelassen, ergreift er einen anderen (Zweig). Ebenso (ist es mit dem) was da, ihr Bhikkhus, Denken heißt und Geist und Bewußtsein: da entsteht bei Nacht und bei Tag eines und ein anderes wird aufgehoben.
Quote from: SN 12.61

Der Geist und Geistesgestaltungen (Inhalt) sind für die meisten Ungeschulten nicht faßbar, doch der Körper selbst mag es erlauben, die Vergänglichkeit zu beobachten und damit etwas tiefer in die Wahrheit der Unbeständigkeit einzudringen.

Für den ernsthaften Praktizierenden ist es natürlich eine Herausforderung, zwischen Inhalt und Körper, zwischen Botschaft und Tradition zu unterscheiden und weder in das eine Extrem noch in das andere zu verfallen um letztlich diese Phänomene mit Weisheit zu durchdringen.


Quote from: aus 108 Dhammagleichnissen , Ajahn Chah
Der Weg zum Kloster

Tugend, Konzentration und Weisheit: Diese drei Dinge nannte Buddha den Pfad. Der Pfad ist nicht Religion, das ist nicht, was Buddha wirklich wollte, aber dies ist der Weg, wie wir dort hinkommen.

Es ist dasselbe, wenn du von Bangkok nach Wat Nong Pah Pong kommst. Es geht dir nicht um die Straße die hierher führt. Im Grunde möchtest du das Kloster erreichen. Aber die Straße war notwendig, um hierher zu kommen. Die Straße hierher ist nicht das Kloster. Sie ist nur der Weg in das Kloster. Du musst der Straße folgen, um ins Kloster zu kommen.

Tugend, Konzentration und Weisheit sind der Weg zum Frieden; dieser ist, was wir wirklich wollen.


Hier findet sich auch der geeignete Platz für Themen wie Teezeremonien, Naturheilung, Riten und Rituale wie auch alle mystischen Aspekte, die in den verschiedenen Kulturen in die „buddhistische“ Tradition eingeflossen sind.

Anzumerken vielleicht noch ist, daß politische Auseinandersetzungen auch hier nicht sehr gut angebracht sind. Sollte man es dennoch für notwendig empfinden, sich über "Konfliktreiche Themen" unterhalten zu wollen, empfiehlt sich hierfür das Forum: Tattle and daily opinion battle - Tratschen & Tagemeinungen (tiracchana yoni)

Möge dieses Unterforum dazu beitragen mehr gegenseitiges Verständnis und damit Mitgefühl zu entwickeln und Traditionen so zu erhalten, wie es für sie notwendig ist und nicht zum Nachteil für andere wird.

Viel Freude am Teilen, Forschen, Kennenlernen und Entdecken!

Sie sind weiters recht herzlich eingeladen, hier Ihre bekannten oder gewöhnten Traditionen und Gepflogenheiten vorzustellen und anderen damit einen Zugang zu Ihrem Kulturkreis zu ermöglichen. Mit dem Kennenlernen und Verstehen fallen Grenzen, unvernünftige Berührungsängste wie auch abergläubische Vorstellungen und verbohrte übernommene Sichtweisen.


Wenn wir heute über "modernen" Buddhismus oder Buddhismus in Deutschland, Westen, USA... sprechen, oder wenn Medien über solches berichten, dann sind wir in diesen Themenbereich hier bereits eingetaucht.

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Folk Buddhism [Forum Guide]

Valued Dhamma friends,
valued visitors of sangham.net,

this subforum is thought for exchanging about the various Buddhist customs which over the centuries have developed, out of intermingling of the Dhamma-Vinaya tradition with other faiths and regional customs.

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This large section of the forum can be seen as an overview of what is called "Buddhism" in popular terms, with all its cultural colorations and adaptions. Also culture, tradition and folklore, the customs of a society are a basis for a successful practice of the Dhamma. Here it is welcome to get acquainted with the various cultural aspects, to discuss them and to share them, which provide some insight into the development of the society in interaction with the Buddha's disciples and the original community.

In many places the Buddha's tradition has mixed with other folk faiths and created various imitations which all contain at least traces of the original and are inspired by the great influence of a unique teacher.

You are heartily invited to perhaps also present your own cultural roots in connection with Dhamma tradition.

An important aspect of this forum is also to always learn to differentiate a bit better between the folk adaptations and the original and, in the other direction, perhaps occasion for adopting new adaptations which are discovered in other cultural spheres.




As it is well presented in the Sigalovada Sutta, the Buddha did not think much of establishing new folk traditions (religion in the widest sense). On the other hand he provided people with a content to their leading customs.
Perhaps interesting in this respect is a short introdcution to and translation of the "Sigalovada Sutta: The discourse to the young Sigala" under the title: Understanding the traditionsless tradition .

Culture and tradition are important for people just as much as it is important for a child to learn to stick to simple rules and rituals. This provides the basis for a further practice but also a well regulated conduct in a worldly society. Also interesting in connection with this topic is the article: A door to the Dhamma

Generally on the topic "Importance of culture and tradtition" and perhaps significant for all may be this "appeal" for the maintenance and restoration of the own culture (remark: this is in its general sense applicable for all in equal measure, even if it is directed at a specified group here)


Preserving Our Heritage (translated back from the German translation to English)

North America is a melting pot. We Cambodians have been here for just one generation. In recent years, we have also resettled in Europe, Australia, and throughout Asia. As we rebuild our lives in new lands, as we become part of new societies, it is important for us also to preserve our cultural identity. Without our culture, we will become lost and confused, like fish outside of the water.

Cambodians have a precious heritage. The richness of Cambodian culture includes many gifts:


* Cambodians are fearless because they can overcome greed, anger and delusion.

* Cambodians are humble, courteous, and noble.

* Cambodians are grateful to their mother and father, to their leaders, to their land, and to the whole world. Cambodians keep the five moral precepts, the constitution of humanity, and the Dharma of goodness.

* Cambodians have mindfulness and clear comprehension as their protectors.

* Cambodians practice loving kindness, compassion, sympathetic joy, and equanimity.

* Cambodians have patience. They can bear great difficulties, suffering, and hardships.

* Cambodians forgive and forget the wrongs of other people. They learn from the lessons of the past. They use the present to build the future.

* Cambodians are truthful and well-behaved. They follow the middle path.

* Cambodians are soft and smiling. Their speech is truthful, loving, and practical, clear, vibrant, and sweet. Their speech has the power to free the mind from anxiety, to purify the mind from delusion, and to make the mind strong.

* Cambodians have the tradition of solidarity, united by Buddhism and their love of Dharma.

When we are in the river, we flow with the river, zigzag. But we cannot forget our boat, which is our tradition. Just as all Buddhas, may the Cambodian people be peacemakers. In the tradition of our sacred land, may we celebrate unity, loving kindness, and peace with our deepest gratitude.

Even though this appeal is very good-natured and pathbreaking in its essence, one nevertheless immediately sees the danger in it. National pride and racial modes of thinking as well as many other dangers slumber in this understanding if it is not understood and self-belief is very strongly present.
All too gladly one takes the boat for the goal and instead of using it well to the end according to its nature, in order to reach the further shore, our boats are put into the dry haven, and, out of fear that one day they should not be anymore, then guarded, defended and constantly refurbished.
Just as it is with a boat that stood on dry ground for too long, it, when set to water again, will leak and sink, since the sealing mass between the planks has dried out.

The body is just as perishable as the boat or single traditions. It does not make sense to fight against nature, but it makes sense to maintain and foster this body according to its necessity, without falling into vanity or narcissism in the process.

If we understand the interplay between boat and content then the time has come at which we can rise above tradition.

The Buddha warned the monks, not to teach higher teachings about the mind and impermanence of the body to common people, and advised to leave them the body as the object of observation for the "self":

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

"It would be better for the uninstructed run-of-the-mill person to hold to the body composed of the four great elements, rather than the mind, as the self. Why is that? Because this body composed of the four great elements is seen standing for a year, two years, three, four, five, ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, a hundred years or more. But what's called 'mind,' 'intellect,' or 'consciousness' by day and by night arises as one thing and ceases as another. Just as a monkey, swinging through a forest wilderness, grabs a branch. Letting go of it, it grabs another branch. Letting go of that, it grabs another one. Letting go of that, it grabs another one. In the same way, what's called 'mind,' 'intellect,' or 'consciousness' by day and by night arises as one thing and ceases as another.
Quote from: SN 12.61

The mind and the mental formations (content) are not graspable for most uninstructed people, but the body itself may allow it to observe impermanence and with that penetrate deeper into the truth of impermanence.

For the sincere practitioner it is of course a challenge to distinguish between content and body, between message and tradition, and to fall into neither the one nor the other extreme in order to finally penetrate these phenomena with wisdom.


Quote from: from 108 Dhamma similes , Ajahn Chah
The Way to the Monastery

Virtue, concentration, and discernment: These three things the Buddha called a path. The path isn't the religion, and it's not what the Buddha really wanted, but they're the way we get there.

It's the same as your coming from Bangkok to Wat Nong Pah Pong. You didn't want the road coming here. You wanted to reach the monastery instead. But the road was needed for you to get here. The road coming here isn't the monastery. It's just the road to the monastery. You have to follow the road to get to the monastery.

Virtue, concentration, and discernment are the road to peace, which is what we really want.


Here one finds the suitable place for topics like tea ceremonies, natural healing, rites and rituals as well as all mystical aspects in the various cultures which have flown into the "buddhist" tradition.

To be remarked in addition perhaps is that political debates are even here not very well placed. Should one however find it necessary anyway to talk about "conflict prone topics" then this forum should be recommended here: Tattle and daily opinion battle - Tratschen & Tagemeinungen (tiracchana yoni)

May this subforum contribute to developing more mutual understanding and compassion and preserving traditions in the way that it is necessary for them, without it being at the disadvantage of others.

Much joy in sharing, exploring, getting acquainted and discovering!

You are furthermore heartily invited to introduce your known and accustomed tradtitions and customs here and with it enable an access for others to your cultural sphere. With the recognition and understanding, barriers, unreasonable fears of contact as well as superstituous imaginations and bullheaded adopted views may fall by the wayside.

When we speak of "modern" Buddhism and Buddhism in Germany, the West, USA... today, or when the media report about these, then we have already taken a dive into this topical area here.


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