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Vandami Bhante _/\_
Tomorrow early morning
Vithou, His brotherinlaw and Kana's brother Virak they will leave at 5am to Aural wished to visit Bhante and offering some medecines_/\_
 

Cheav Villa

December 13, 2018, 01:39:00 PM
ព្រះអង្គបានធូរខ្លះហេីយ _/\_
 

Sophorn

December 11, 2018, 04:43:02 PM
 :-* :-* :-*
May Bhante recover fast again
 :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

December 10, 2018, 12:22:01 PM
...many.May Nyom Sokdina let it be known if he desires for an explaining of why modern ideas and demanding go not at all in conformity with the Buddhas Dhamma but are at large leading downwardly.
 

Johann

December 10, 2018, 12:06:17 PM
Thinking in therms of rights is grave wrong view, miccha ditthi. And there are times when voting is not usefull. Of cause people who go after such ideas simply search for relexation, fun and joy and will be not satisfied by the Dhamma, Nyom Sokdina. Don't follow fools and see the many goodness of ma
 

Kong Sokdina

December 10, 2018, 10:33:43 AM
ថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គ!
Human rigths!
Women rigths,
Children rights,
Democrecy;
We know the right to do. I use self-reflaction to our mind what are something in. The right way is a good way all wr wish. I have to g
ask you about the breath relaxation, meditatii
 

Cheav Villa

December 10, 2018, 09:43:12 AM
សូមព្រះអង្គបានសម្រាក និងឆាន់ថ្នាំ សូមព្រះអង្គឆាប់ធូរស្បេីយពីរោគា
_/\_
 

Johann

December 10, 2018, 09:12:24 AM
Krun Chan did the arriving appear faster and binds to rest. Everything fine, dhammata.
 

Sophorn

December 10, 2018, 07:03:39 AM
 :-* :-* :-* kana is good. Kana assumes Bhante arrived well at Thmor Touk again.
 :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

December 09, 2018, 02:16:13 PM
Upanissaya, Nyom Villa... "accidents"...
 

Cheav Villa

December 09, 2018, 02:08:10 PM
ថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គ _/\_
 :D កូណាស្មនត្រូវថាព្រះអង្គនឹងត្រឡប់ទៅដល់អាស្រមវិញនាល្ងាចថ្ងៃអាទិត្យនេះ _/\_
 

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December 09, 2018, 01:33:19 AM
Nyom Sophorn, everything is fine!  How is nyom?
 

Sophorn

December 08, 2018, 05:40:28 PM
 :-* :-* :-* vandami Bhante Khemakura, how is Bhante?
 :-* :-* :-*
 

Sophorn

December 08, 2018, 05:40:24 PM
 :-* :-* :-* vandami Bhante Khemakura, how is Bhante?
 :-* :-* :-*
 

Cheav Villa

December 07, 2018, 01:18:12 PM
Kana Preah Ang _/\_
 

Khemakumara

December 07, 2018, 01:10:24 PM
Nyom Cheav Villa
 

Cheav Villa

December 05, 2018, 02:54:44 PM
Kana thought Bhante Johann could have left Watt Ayum on Tuesday morning _/\_
 

Cheav Villa

December 05, 2018, 12:04:44 PM
ព្រះអង្គ​Inddanano _/\_
 

Kong Sokdina

December 04, 2018, 11:52:14 AM
Sadhu! Kana Prah Ang;
There are many ways to wash & clean the all minds, Preah konmchas; i had been taught by prf. from Spain with theory & practice as well since 2006-2009 and i also let my clients to do like whatever you have told me right now. For me at this time; it should use cognitive behavio
 

Khemakumara

December 03, 2018, 05:06:22 PM
Sadhu!  Möge es Nyom Roman und Nyom Moritz gut er-gehen!
 

Moritz

December 03, 2018, 05:03:40 PM
Ebenso _/\_
 

Roman

December 03, 2018, 04:58:02 PM
ich wünsche Allen einen friedevollen Abend!
 

Roman

December 03, 2018, 04:55:34 PM
Guten Abend Moritz und Bhante Khemakumara
 

Khemakumara

December 03, 2018, 04:54:47 PM
Nyom Moritz Nyom Roman
 

Moritz

December 03, 2018, 04:45:52 PM
Vandami, Bhante Indaññano and Bhante Khemakumara _/\_
 

Cheav Villa

December 03, 2018, 12:05:41 PM
Kana Prah Ang  :D _/\_
 

Khemakumara

December 03, 2018, 12:01:58 PM
Nyom Cheav Villa
 

Johann

December 03, 2018, 09:37:36 AM
Nyom Sokdina. It would be good if Nyom could participate on the up-coming Meditation week-end at Wat Akyum to clean the mind.
 

Kong Sokdina

December 03, 2018, 02:15:52 AM
Nyoms! Last night, a gouhter is affect by irritable cougbhing so it disurbance to sleep.
 

Kong Sokdina

December 03, 2018, 02:11:21 AM
Sadhu! Thanks!
It is just  tried to give up & burn out of bad spiritul inside. Your Wishes isi good for all.
 

Sophorn

December 02, 2018, 08:48:58 AM
 :-* :-* :-*
may you recover well and fast  :-* :-* :-*
 

Kong Sokdina

December 02, 2018, 02:18:46 AM
Respectfully
Today, my is ill with lower blood pressure & blurred sion. But she tries to see because she really praises excellent merit, moral & virtue. How do you think  , as humanbeing?
 

Cheav Villa

December 01, 2018, 12:29:08 PM
 :o ព្រះអង្គស្រេងអាចនឹងដំឡេីងកម្មវិធីទាំងអស់នោះវិញបាននៅពេលក្រោយ ព្រះអង្គ _/\_
 

Johann

December 01, 2018, 12:16:35 PM
Not easy, but Atma has now erased all facebook, messenger.. apps on Bhantes device. Maybe possible to prepar the old Sangha-laptop in proper ways for him.
 

Johann

December 01, 2018, 07:58:21 AM
If wishing, you could use the Pali-language forum, http://sangham.net/index.php/board,26.0.html for your lessons.
 

Cheav Villa

December 01, 2018, 06:57:19 AM
 :D _/\_
 

Johann

December 01, 2018, 06:48:05 AM
.. was written by Johann
 

Indaññāno

December 01, 2018, 06:45:34 AM
It's good to make everything that Huang's may not use messenger and things like Facebook! Of course there is support (given support) needed to do so. Don't pull monks into the worlds markets and ways.
 

Cheav Villa

December 01, 2018, 06:00:30 AM
Kuna Prah Ang  :D _/\_
 

Johann

December 01, 2018, 05:22:57 AM
Bhante is just taking his meal, Nyom.
 

Cheav Villa

December 01, 2018, 04:40:17 AM
ព្រះអង្គ ឥន្ទញាណោ _/\_
 

Sophorn

November 30, 2018, 11:20:52 AM
 :-* :-* :-* sadhu and mudita to hear so.
 :-* :-* :-*
 

Cheav Villa

November 30, 2018, 05:52:17 AM
Sadhu _/\_
 

Johann

November 30, 2018, 05:43:37 AM
Everything "fine", better Dhammata, Nyom. Atma met Nyom. His mind is attentive, he could listen and its up to his own further investigation, blessed, being bound to care only about his breath for the time left.
 

Cheav Villa

November 29, 2018, 02:05:44 PM
តេីសុខភាពពិបាកទ្រាំ ដែរទេព្រះអង្គ? និងលោកតាឧបាសក?
 

Cheav Villa

November 29, 2018, 02:01:01 PM
ថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គ  :D
_/\_

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Heaven - Himmel
« on: April 17, 2015, 12:18:32 PM »

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

8. Devalokasuttaṃ

Heaven

18. "Bhikkhus, if ascetics of another faith ask you: 'Friends, do you lead the holy life in the dispensation of the recluse Gotama, to be born in heaven?' Wouldn't you be worried, wouldn't you loathe it?"

"Yes, venerable sir."

"Bhikkhus, wouldn't you be worried and wouldn't you loathe that heavenly, life span, beauty, pleasantness, fame and authority. Isn't it better that you be worried and loathe bodily misconduct, verbal misconduct and mental misconduct."


Freie deutsche Übersetzung, unkorregiert:

8. Devalokasuttaṃ

Himmel

"Bhikkhus, wenn Asketen anderen Glaubens euch fragen: 'Freunde, führt Ihr das heilige Leben in der Austeilung des Einsiedlers Gotama, um im Himmel geboren zu sein?' Würde euch das bedrängen, würde Euch das verabscheun?"

"Ja, ehrwürdiger Herr."

"Bhikkhus, würdet Ihr bedrängt sein und würde Euch das nicht verabscheuen, diese Himmlische Lebensspanne, Schönheit, Angenehmheit, Ruhm und Autorität. Wäre es nicht besser bedrängt und verabscheut von körperlichen Fehlverhalten, verbalem Fehlverhalten und geistigem Fehlverhalten zu sein?"
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Re: Heaven - Himmel
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2015, 05:46:24 PM »
 _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

Könnten Sie vielleicht ein paar Worte dazu äußern, Bhante?

Vielen Dank!

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Re: Heaven - Himmel
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2015, 06:11:42 PM »
Auf dem richtigen Weg und mit dem richtigen Verhalten kann nicht viel passieren. Mit nur einem Ziel vor Augen, dass man vielleicht verkennt, vergisst man sich einfach auf das Training zu konzentrien, Upasika Sophorn, soweit Attma das aus der Übersetzung nimmt. Die Übersetzungen der werten Nonne sind nicht so sicher, wie sie sicher am Englisch feststellen können.
Jedenfalls ist ein Ziel im Himmel vielleicht ein Aufstieg zum richtigen Ziel und in die Richtung, aber dafür ist der Weg des guten Verhaltens eigentlich nicht gemacht, sozusagen sind diese Dinge nebenprodukt und man solle sich besser auf die Praxis Konzentrieren, als auf eine gute Wiedergegurt, als Termitenkönigin oder so, wenn man nur Dana mancht und auf Silas und etwas Entsagung vergisst, oder nur Vertiefung und keine Basis mitbringt.

So würde das doch sehr springende und kurze Sutta verstehen. Wie würden Upasika Sophorn das verstehen?
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Re: Heaven - Himmel
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2017, 10:21:33 AM »
This is new knowledge for me. I also believe that there are many people who do not know this yet.

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Re: Heaven - Himmel
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2018, 02:31:37 AM »
Okasa Bhante and all,

wenn man nur Dana mancht und auf Silas und etwas Entsagung vergisst, oder nur Vertiefung und keine Basis mitbringt.
I read the sutta in Buddha Jayanti Printing of the Sinhala Tipitaka.
How I could understand is similar to how Bhante understood it.

I think, in short, the Blessed One is pointing out the following theory.

If you refrain from the subtle offences, you should have already refrained from the rough offences.

If you are wise enough not to attach even in divine realms, you should have already been wise enough not to attach in main offences.

If you see the mahout, you should have already seen the elephant.



Sada Sotthi Bhavantu te!
« Last Edit: September 28, 2018, 02:36:38 AM by gus »

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Re: Heaven - Himmel
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2018, 06:06:26 AM »
Sadhu.

That's the point.

For example it's one reason why one should not practice tudhonga (e.g. the Hole life at it's peak) if still desiring the reunion with the Devas.

Or another good sutta to point out the life of real recluses is the "Sex-/Socialicing Sutta", the Metuna Sutta (please not, that Upasaka Piya has modified his explainings a little later, so that it fits to his current not so perfect way of life as householder).

And here also again: Althought very modern, it does not make sense to practice Jhana, Vipassana... and still has proplems with Abhivadana, Sila and Generosity. Note that on the Ariya-Magga Sila comes before Generosity. Without having perfect Silas one Generosity, giving letting go, if even, is just trade for heavenly becoming (working to enjoy some holidays)
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