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2019 Feb 21 03:15:02
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Feb 20 15:56:46
Johann: see here

2019 Feb 20 13:33:02
Cheav Villa: ពូចាន់រ័ត្ន សុំអោយសួរព្រះអង្គ តើម្សិលមិញ រឺ​ម្សិលម្ង៉ៃ​ មានមនុស្ស​ប្រុសម្នាក់ស្រីម្នាក់ ឡើងទៅលើភ្នំ ឬទេ?

2019 Feb 20 13:31:37
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 18 14:34:39
Johann: Meister Moritz

2019 Feb 18 13:29:24
Moritz: Leaving. May Bhante and all have a good day. _/\_

2019 Feb 18 13:18:25
Moritz: _/\_

2019 Feb 18 09:31:39
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Feb 18 08:19:34
Johann: Where and what to practice?

2019 Feb 18 08:15:08
Johann: Where and when ever good inspired and worthy to give into.

2019 Feb 18 08:14:03
Johann: That place here is not that different, and Nyom did already a lot here. And don't forget: Punna iomething that arises in ones heart, not outwardly.

2019 Feb 18 07:34:01
Cheav Villa: ជាមួយនឹង​ក្រុម​​លោកម្ចាស់​ស្រេង​   _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 18 07:32:56
Cheav Villa: កូណាមិនបានទៅចូលរួមមាឃបូជានៅឱរ៉ាល់ឆ្នាំនេះ តែសង្ឃឹមនឹងបានទៅចូលរួម​ពិធីឡើងកុដិនៅខែ3 

2019 Feb 18 03:52:46
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 18 01:21:42
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2019 Feb 18 01:21:10
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 18 01:16:11
Johann: Bhante. Nyom Villa.

2019 Feb 18 01:14:29
Johann: Nyom Moritz. Sokh chomreoun

2019 Feb 18 00:34:02
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Feb 15 04:14:01
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 15 03:43:29
Johann: Another day, another possibility. We don't know what tomorrow might be

2019 Feb 15 03:43:01
Johann: ថ្ងៃ ថ្មី មួូយ ជា ឳកាស ថ្មី មួយ ទៀត។ យើង មិន អាច ដឹង មុន នូវ អ្វី ដែល នឹង កើតឡើង ថ្ងៃ ស្អែក

2019 Feb 12 05:47:26
Johann: Nyom Chanroth

2019 Feb 11 07:35:04
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 11 07:01:15
Johann: Bhante

2019 Feb 10 15:18:50
Vithou: Hope Preah Ang doing well too.. Thanks Preah Ang

2019 Feb 10 15:17:51
Vithou: Nhom kuna doing well so far.

2019 Feb 10 12:29:57
Johann: Nyom Vithou. But Nyom is well so far?

2019 Feb 10 12:02:00
Vithou: Actually they put in the kidnee. :)

2019 Feb 10 12:01:26
Vithou:  take it out on 20 Feb

2019 Feb 10 12:01:25
Vithou:  take it out on 20 Feb

2019 Feb 10 12:01:12
Vithou: the doctor put it for one month . I will

2019 Feb 10 12:00:28
Vithou: Kuna Tvay Bongkom Preah Ang  nyom kuna is fne now but still have a pipe inside mybody

2019 Feb 10 11:47:41
Johann: Sokh chomreoun Nyom Buddhi

2019 Feb 10 11:44:41
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាខានបានចូលមកក្នុងវេបសាយអានព្រះធម៌អស់ប៉ុន្មានថ្ងៃ

2019 Feb 10 11:41:53
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ Vandami Bhante

2019 Feb 09 14:43:21
Cheav Villa: សួស្តី​ពូចាន់រ័ត្ម _/\_

2019 Feb 09 14:42:08
Johann: ញោម Chanroth

2019 Feb 09 11:32:48
Johann: ខ្លះ ... how ever, good to here

2019 Feb 09 10:30:33
Cheav Villa: វិធូថាគាត់បានធូរខ្លះហើយ គាត់នឹងរកពេលទូលព្រះអង្គ តាម​Talk box  _/\_

2019 Feb 09 02:49:21
Cheav Villa: កូណាបានសួរគាត់ដែរ តែមិនទាន់មានការឆ្លើយតបទេ ប្រហែលជាគាត់រវល់ខ្លាំង  _/\_

2019 Feb 08 15:24:14
Johann: How is Nyom Vithou doing, Nyom Villa? Nyom Chanroth told that he still has burden after the hospital.

2019 Feb 07 13:07:06
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 07 13:04:40
Johann: Nearly out of power("suns gift") for today again. May all give into good deeds with their power left.

2019 Feb 07 13:04:33
Johann: Nearly out of power("suns gift") for today again. May all give into good deeds with their power left.

2019 Feb 05 13:35:45
Johann: Meister Vinodh

2019 Feb 05 08:45:20
Johann: មុដិតា

2019 Feb 05 07:46:50
Cheav Villa: អរព្រះគុណ​ ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ ពួកខ្ញុំកូណា បានធូរស្បើយ​ច្រើន​ អំពីបញ្ហាសុខភាពរាងកាយ​  _/\_

2019 Feb 05 07:25:29
Johann: Nyom Villa. Family, all healthy and well?

2019 Feb 05 03:34:18
Johann: Mr. Nathan

2019 Feb 04 13:42:11
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Feb 04 04:25:07
Cheav Villa: កូណា​ត្រេកអរ​ ដែលបានឃើញផ្លូវទៅមុខ ឧបនិស្ស័យ​ការបដិបត្តិ​ឧបោសថ​យឺតយូរ​  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 04 04:22:09
Cheav Villa: ការហាត់ធ្វើឧបោសថបានបន្តិចបន្តួួច ដោយវិធីស្រាយចំណងដែលជាប់មាំ

2019 Feb 04 04:18:58
Cheav Villa: ព្រះអង្គ​ _/\_ ចិត្តនឿយណាយចន្លោះពេលបានសុខ និងបានទុក្ខ

2019 Feb 04 04:04:13
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ កូណាព្រះអង្គ

2019 Feb 04 03:55:36
Johann: English iti 49

2019 Feb 04 03:51:37
Johann: Importand teaching in regard of wishing for becoming or not-becoming! ទិដ្ឋិគតសូត្រ (១២.)

2019 Feb 04 03:37:57
Johann: It can be observed free of all Sakaya ditthi as well.

2019 Feb 04 03:25:52
Johann: Uposatha is a good tradition to take on.

2019 Feb 04 03:24:53
Johann: This, the Buddha told, can not be archived by just wishing, Nyom, the end of suffering.

2019 Feb 04 02:23:26
Cheav Villa: May​ all possibilities in a rebirth has decreased  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 04 02:18:49
Cheav Villa: Since my grandmother, my dad, I kana has not taken on the traditional of Chinese new year

2019 Feb 04 01:28:26
Johann: An insightful Chines New Year and new moon day, a rebirth of another round of possibility in chosing ways with every action.

2019 Feb 03 16:08:02
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុព្រះអង្គvandami 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Feb 03 12:20:05
Cheav Villa:  កូណាព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ 

2019 Feb 03 12:10:00
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Feb 03 07:06:33
Johann: Nyom Buddhi

2019 Feb 02 16:53:13
Johann: All a matter of leaving house and not searching for the next, Nyom.

2019 Feb 02 16:51:36
Johann: Editing post here is not so good since there is a software issue, cutting away all to 200 characters.

2019 Feb 02 16:18:35
Ieng Puthy: ព្រះអង្គករុណានឹករលឹកភ្នំឱរា៉ល់ណាស់ សង្ឃឹមថាថ្ងៃណាមួយករុណានឹងបានទៅថ្វាយបង្គំុព្រះអង្គដោយផ្ទាល់ ។ បេីបុណ

2019 Feb 02 15:52:20
Johann: Nyom Buddhi

2019 Feb 02 15:35:54
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុVandami Bhante.

2019 Feb 02 15:33:38
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Feb 02 10:35:46
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 02 08:36:16
Johann: Atma will then make a "sun-break" for today

2019 Feb 01 11:36:30
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំ🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻Vandami Bhante

2019 Jan 31 15:55:14
Johann: Bhante Muni

2019 Jan 30 15:40:30
Johann: Nyom Buddhi

2019 Jan 30 05:24:55
Johann: "sreng" is really "nasty" if becoming. It's also easy to get by sweeping dusty group and dry gras.

2019 Jan 30 04:35:46
Cheav Villa: កូណាព្រះអង្គ  _/\_

2019 Jan 30 04:11:18
Johann: It's possible not "sreng", Nyom, it's autumn diseas, and infection not to be healed. The origin why the Buddha allowed tonics ("food" at "wrong" time), weakness of the body.

2019 Jan 30 03:27:08
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 30 01:12:39
Sophorn: Bhante Khemakura, kana hofft, Bhante geht es besser!  _/\_

2019 Jan 30 01:12:10
Sophorn: Vandami Bhante Khemakura  _/\_

2019 Jan 30 01:11:53
Sophorn: Vandami Bhante Indannano  _/\_

2019 Jan 30 01:11:38
Sophorn: Vandami Bhante Johann _/\_

2019 Jan 29 10:12:10
Johann: Bhante. Wie geht es der Unterlippe?

2019 Jan 27 04:59:09
Johann: Nyom Vithou

2019 Jan 26 14:38:07
Cheav Villa: Vandāmi Bhante Indaññāno  _/\_

2019 Jan 25 16:12:30
Cheav Villa:  :o _/\_

2019 Jan 25 16:04:02
Johann: There are two, actually. Something to be careful about.

2019 Jan 25 15:39:25
Cheav Villa: Vilāsa  :D karuṇā found this meaning in Pāḷi Dictionary  _/\_

2019 Jan 25 15:24:52
Johann: No vaṇṇa-macchariya: rejoicing that other appear as vilasa as oneself... Sadhu!

2019 Jan 25 15:17:51
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 25 14:29:43
Johann: If Ñoma Buddhi likes to wear the color of an ārāmikinī, to be able to edit, add translations, corrections, it should be no problem. Ñoma Vīḷa might help to get known the "power and responsibility" of goodness.

2019 Jan 25 14:22:02
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏼អរព្រះគុណព្រះអង្គ

2019 Jan 25 11:55:49
Johann: No problem Nyom, that was clear (word prediction...). Only moderator and admin can edit text in the shoutbox.

2019 Jan 25 11:04:42
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When a western monk is sick in Thailand...
« on: April 22, 2015, 07:54:12 AM »
also what I pray or assume all the time...

When a western monk is sick in Thailand... (Dhammawheel)

Quote from: Bhante Dhammanando
A western monk is sure to have an easy time if:

• He has health insurance, or...
• He uses money and has plenty of it, or...
• He is part of some outfit like the Ajahn Chah tradition which has an abundance of wealthy lay supporters, or...
• He has a personal lay supporter of unlimited means who has offered to pay for any medical expenses he may incur. (Usually he would need to have been a monk for many years before anyone made an offer like this).

If he is not in any of these categories then his choice is between the Sangha Hospital in Bangkok and the country's state hospitals.

Like here... If you are a Thai Monk, you will need you familie... No Sangha
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Re: When a western monk is sick in Thailand...
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2018, 02:54:31 AM »
Okasa,
It is true that many can't easily abandon all the subtle bonds as a putujjana. Yet, I think this is a point where a monk can assess his level of determination (on fear about the future).

We know some monks who had refused to depend on the support of their monasteries, lived in solitude and when they had got seriously ill (with an disabality to walk or deadly ill ..etc.) asked for help from the monastery again. Many permanent-monastery-dwelling monks laughed at them.

There is no confusion about what is the proper way of living like real ascetic or like a moon. Many knows independent way is the better way. Yet they are keen on ridiculing those who do better things while have not yet have the determination required.

It is like this:
After a layman became a monk without a higher level of determination, then when he try to go back again to the lay life, many laugh at him.

It seems when we renouncing we should have to have a good level of determination.

Vandami.


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Re: When a western monk is sick in Thailand...
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2018, 11:55:43 AM »
Knowing much is a real burden. An certain perceptions can make a lot of pain.

Mostly, today, one thinks to need to be perfect before going to school.

If we read the Vinaya the Buddha gave roles that someone ordaining = willing to leave home, not to choin another, should not even be informed of his lifelihood for the rest of his life. But as soon he did.

Modern people have no idea of life as it really is, not having met the messanger.

Who ever laughs not just because he sees how foolish he was before he understood, lifted himself above others, gained the lose with his win.

Did Deva gus ever read the heartwood Suttas in Majjhima Nikaya?

It's good to be careful or pay for debts one accumulated and not run away.

Mistakes are "normal".

Fools laught at others. Some do criticise others with the aim to try to shine, some to win over people to mobilize for a battle and take over, ... some out of duty, some out of compassion.

Once one has lost all estimation of more advanced and higher, has lost all his goodness, what does he have left to give into, at the end possible facing himself.

What did the Buddha say?

One who has firm faith, holds on Vinaya, focus on right view... one following the eightfold path, having developed it, is sure to gain final liberation.

Does one like to take is house, home, body... status, virtue, concentration, knowledge... take with him there?

What's the meaning of ceto-vimutti and pañña-vimutti?

And it's because many actually tried to leave home that they highly respect those who try it and go into the battle, support them, encourage them... not tread them just like farmers there pigs and chicken.

One also needs to understand that there are very less modern people who even ever practiced giving their whole life. Like children in the east, modern children, children of this Maras delight days.

Critic, support... what ever means, what ever tools to support each other forward, if not seeing the army of Mara, how could metta, karuna, mudita and upekkha ever arise?

This is why all starts or requires gratitude first. For it's the fundation of: Respect, Confidence and Patient .

Kamma, Upanissaya, is not a matter of east, west, birth... it's very individual, and it's very individual into what one gives to, forgets it and go beyound.

What does Nyom @Deva think, does the Uposatha of the cowboys or the Uposatha of the Nigaṇṭhā leave an opening to the Uposatha of the Noble Ones?

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It seems when we renouncing we should have to have a good level of determination.

So one needs to be an Non-returner first?

What about just gaining confidence after meeting the four messenger with the Samaṇa at least?
Or the Samaṇa fist, and the others by following him? Did Rahula met the three before?

Deva gus, by cultivating householder upekkha, grow up in an actually socialist enviroment already or?

What's that we?

If one run's around with an "I", it's like a person carry a gun for protection. It causes some fear. Probably one might fear an shout him.

If one run's around with an "We", it's like carring a nuclear weapon on his shoulder...

So what cause fear or even increase it?

CHILDREN, BULLETS

A gun shoots its children — its bullets — outward. We shoot ours inward, into our heart. When they're good, we're shot in the heart. When they're bad, we're shot in the heart. They're an affair of kamma, our children. There are good ones, there are bad ones, but both the good and bad are our children all the same.

When they're born, look at us: The worse off they are, the more we love them. If one of them comes down with polio and gets crippled, that's the one we love the most. When we leave the house we tell the older ones, “Look after your little sister. Look after this one” — because we love her. When we're about to die we tell them, “Look after her. Look after my child.” She's not strong, so you love her even more.

And what does a Dhammika say if leaving house?

One his death-bed, last advices toward his family and those having been bond on him?
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Re: When a western monk is sick in Thailand...
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2018, 03:52:27 PM »
Vandami.

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Re: When a western monk is sick in Thailand...
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2018, 06:55:21 PM »
Was empfehlen dahinscheidende dhammische Führer?

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

'Whatever there may be in our family that can be given away, all that will be shared unstintingly with virtuous ones who are of admirable character.' That's how you should train yourselves."

"Family, dwelling, ones possesions, status, Dhamma..." Gratitude.

Sometimes "young" Monks, Novices, Bhikkhus... hardly inspired, come up, risk. Sometimes they come later with a fellow Bhikkhu.

Sometimes they are really happy to share their merits like "I am now no more reachable, having given up telefon..." Some, of small groups, like-minded, a honorable Bhikkhu stops, let his driver stop, waering old robs, and giving their alms (having got from devoted in their monastery, because needing to drive for a bussiness, meeting a "wanderer" right at almsround in a remoted village. Later come up.

Then telling that they are bond by Vinaya. Some by society, state... family... afraid of this, that... desire...

Nobody seems to be willing to give up home for another, yet claiming all the corruption in their livelihoods.

A woman, having come with husband and children, sunday, before ancestorday.

Asking, listening, asking... probably 2h. Forgetting to eat. How comes that my person listened so many monks, Dhamma... and today my person feels like understandig the first time?

She left home. Could develop yonissomanisakara and was somehow remembered on the good Dhamma.

It's all a matter of upanissayapaccayena a matter of giving into and rejoice by it. See realiced that nobody aside of here self can ake or smile or look angry. She simply tried.

She simply was asked if sign, sound... thoughts are lasting, real, a refuge, worthy to hurt one self or others for it.

But she has left home to be able to look for here self, to see.

And what does Deva gus here. He nearly totally left home, but worries stillabout his "childs"

They sat next the woman and she reported that they react total different here, later.

Maybe because their mother did so? Who knows?

Some aalways say that they rejoiced and will come back?

Don't take the key with you, sometimes helps. Other Devas just like to come back.
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Re: When a western monk is sick in Thailand...
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2018, 07:24:19 PM »
My person talks much today... but do people really know who provide them to still stay in contact?

It's not google, facebook... it's about merely poor but mighty past of future Devas.

And their wishes, when giving food, when giving for most beshameing just that little, success.

So what do good leader, not to speak of those having seen the Dhamma, where ever advice their families?

What do children learn in good families?

Give. And if nothing having right now, better then year doing daily sacrifies, simply a bow, of what the elder said, is worthy to respect if meeting.

Just that might be enought to keep Upanissay alive and nurish it.

What one does not nurish dies. What do you like to grow? So we invite the Devas or not? We invite or families or not? We invite all those who we owe a lot a gratitude or not?

Would good come? If we invite Bhikkhus, not for gain, teaching... but just to be happy to give, would good come?

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Re: When a western monk is sick in Thailand...
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2018, 05:24:07 AM »
Vandami Bhante.

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