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Re: [DD][Forum] Dharmawheel.net
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2015, 06:31:00 AM »
* Aramika bemerk, notes    Dieses neue Thema wurde ursprünglich dort in [DD][Forum] Dharmawheel.net , aus einem oder mehreren  herausgeschnitten und hier zu einem neuen Thema eröffnen. Für ev. ergänzende Informationen zur Herkunft, sehen Sie bitte das Ursprugsthema ein. Anumodana!

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Cittasanto » Mon May 18, 2015 8:20 pm
Probably not the sutta ou were thinking of but this maybe of interest http://www.accesstoinsight.eu/tipitaka/an/an04/an04.111.than.html

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Und natürlich auch an die anderen Dummköpfe...

and for sure also to the other dullards...

Und es wäre gar nicht notwendig gewesen da nachzusehen... Einst sagte Dhammavaro "Manche Mönche können auch Gedanken lesen" als es um kritik an Mönchen ging hier.

Man könnte ganz Südostasien, oder nur Kambodscha sperren, um sich vor den Bösen zu schützen... Dann werden die auch nicht so von Dummheit beeinflußt... und tauchen dann nicht mehr als Leichen im Fernsehen auf.


And it would't have nessesary to look into... Once Dhammavaro sayed : "Some monks can read Mind", as it was about if one should criticies Monks.

One could ban whole SEAsia, or just Cambodia, to be safe from the mad... Than those would be even more protected against the foolishness... and so, would not appeare on TV as corps all the time.


Wie der Herr, so's G'scher

The slaves are like the master
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Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2015, 08:27:59 AM »
Maybe more infos, as they are not a secret but unseen... Ideologies and views

Peace Through Wealth - The corrupted Dhamma Wheel - Friede durch Wohlstand
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Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2015, 04:50:03 PM »
So was dummes aber auch. Jetzt haben Sie doch glatt die gesamte Stadt Phnom Penh gesperrt die hilfreiche Seite einzusehen... Wie das hat so ist im Buddhismus...

Such a silly mistake. Now they have even ban the whole city Phnom Penh to access the helpful pages... As it is in Buddhism...
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Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2015, 10:42:37 AM »
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Subject:
Re: Spamming Members of Dhamma Wheel
Date:
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From:
Johann Brucker <johann.brucker@sangham.net>
To:
Bhikkhu Pesala <pesala@aimwell.org>

 
 Nice to read Ven. Bhante Pesala,
 
 Samanera Johann trusts that this message reaches Ven. Bhante Pesala in a good mod and in a health condition. Well people follow their leader and if the leader has no right view "there is what is given, there is what is scarified" and rather claim rights, such is natural and has it's cause, long long time, they wandered together.
 
 So it is meritorious to reject a gift (especial as a Bhikkhu who depends on it, or to increase his popularity with such in an akusala way sanghadisea 13!!) and say: "Don't" disturb me? Or to maintain a split, keep people apart?
 
 AN 4.243: Saṅghabhedakasuttaṃ: Split in the Community
 
 Wouldn't it be better to start and reflect and to look if there is actually a reason of blind following the leader and maybe some faults in one self?
 
 Anyhow, Samanera welcomes your critic and reflects on it every day as well as he forces critical refelection on basics of right view. Aim well does not mean wishing well, or what could be "well wished" mean?
 
 Do you think that any member who does not follow the line of the leader and are observant would tell anything otherwise? Then Ven. Bhante should start to observe and wake up, shouldn't he?
 
 [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
 
 But aside of mixing topics, back to "Anumodana": Did Ven. Bhante ever explained the meaning of mudita and sharing merits? Did he ever taught people about roots like goodness and gratitude? Let me ask, why is such not present on DW? Why does nobody teach such, right view, to speech? Would have somebody with wrong view have an answer to that?
 
 Some times ago, Samanera asked Ven. Bhante about the share of his translations an works and Samanera got no answer, maybe Ven. Bhante would like to reply as Samanera sees a lot of danger and obstacles in such: AN 5.254-271: Macchariya Suttas — Stinginess
 
 Its maybe just Samanas observation, but he sees a lot of total wrong intentions, acts and reactions, wrong attitide so to say as one of those thought would be: AN 7.21: Bhikkhu-aparihaniya Sutta — Conditions for No Decline Among the Monks
 
 As Samana mentioned in regard of "they don't like such", there are a hand full of lobbers and the leader, owner and his mods. If Ven. Bhante like to know it better, maybe make a poll and see what might come up if such can be done anonymous with no fear of being banned when speaking out what should be spoken.
 
 It's really not that Samanera does raise all this in a mute of akusala citta and its not that Samana likes to lift his person, but Ven. Bhante would do wise if he does not underestimate others and listen to them what they might have to say. See it as an ernest rebuke or if you like to take it as a gift, as like always well meant gifts.
 
 Samanera trusts that Ven. Bhante is healthy and will find on the course to the other shore.
 
 metta & mudita
 
 Samana Johann
 
 
 
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Dear Johann (Hamze)
 
 Please stop sending me spam. I have never subscribed to your anumodana mailing list, and do not wish to subscribe.
 
 Several members of Dhamma Wheel were complaining about your spam
 
 It is not a meritorious deed to send unwanted links and articles to people who know very well how to find such articles for themselves, when and if they have time to read them.
 
 With metta
 
 
 Bhikkhu Pesala
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Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2015, 10:47:32 AM »



18. WRONG PRACTICE OF BUDDHA-DHAMMA  

The Buddha, here representing the true teaching, is being attacked by three monks and one laymen. The fact that there is only one layman attacking the teachings indicates that many monks, once having been ordained in the order, continue to follow false path and are attached to ceremony. They are indifferent to the true teachings and prefer the Wheel of Wandering-on to Nibbāna.

(Monks, as they are more conspicuous than layman and because they are supposed to be devoting their lives to the Three Gems, and because it is known that they have many precepts to keep pure, can attack the Dhamma by misconduct in a more violent way than is possible for laypeople)



18. Falsche Praxis des Buddha-Dhamma 


Der Buddha, hier die wahre Lehre repräsentierend, wird in diesem Bild von drei Mönchen und einem Laien attackiert. Der Umstand, daß nur ein Laie, jedoch drei Mönche die Lehren attackieren zeigt, daß viele Mönche, auch nach dem sie in den Orden aufgenommen wurden, nach wie vor dem falschen Weg folgen und an Zeremonien festhalten. Sie sind nicht aufnahmefähig für die wahre Lehre und ziehen das Rad des Lebens Nibbāna vor.

Da Mönche auffallender als Laien sind, ihnen die Demut zu den „Drei Juwelen“, aufgrund ihrer Lebensweise, leichter zugesprochen wird und es bekannt ist, daß sie moralische Verhaltensregeln einzuhalten haben, können sie das Dhamma mit Verfehlungen in einem viel größeren Maße verletzen, als es je für Laien möglich wäre.


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Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
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Postby Operator » Wed May 20, 2015 5:16 pm

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    in the near future I will take the training in a theravada forest monastery in the uk, I have been in intense meditation of the past three months and have attained 8 jhanas, I also.have good knowledge of the nikkaya, how will my experience affect the ordination/training?

    Thanks

"Not Sure!" — These Standards of the Noble Ones

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    Food for the Heart by Venerable Ajahn Chah wrote:

    ...There was once a man who wanted to become a monk here. He carried in his robes, determined to become a monk in memory of his late mother. He came into the monastery, laid down his robes, and without so much as paying respects to the monks, started walking meditation right in front of the main hall... back and forth, back and forth, like he was really going to show his stuff.

    I thought, "Oh, so there are people around like this, too!" This is called saddha adhimokkha — blind faith. He must have determined to get enlightened before sundown or something, he thought it would be so easy. He didn't look at anybody else, just put his head down and walked as if his life depended on it. I just let him carry on, but I thought, "Oh, man, you think it's that easy or something?" In the end I don't know how long he stayed, I don't even think he ordained...

also very, very recommended and not easy to learn:

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    Opening the Door to the Dhamma: Respect in Buddhist Thought & Practice

    In order to succeed at learning a new skill, one must first muster sufficient respect for oneself, the subject under study, and one's teacher. In this essay the author demonstrates that the same holds true when approaching the Buddha's teachings — the ability to learn depends upon the proper respect for three things: yourself, the principle of kamma, and other people's insights into that principle.


accesstoinsight.eu -- Anumodana -- Virtual Dhamma Vinaya Vihara - sangham.net

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Ajaan Fuang was very meticulous about keeping things clean and in their place, and taught his students to be meticulous too, for that was the way he was taught by his teachers, and he knew that he had benefited from it. In his words, "If you can’t master obvious things like this, how are you going to master the subtle things, like the mind?"
From: Awareness Itself: The Teachings of Ajaan Fuang Jotiko translated by Thanissaro Bhikkhu

Sadhu!

Btw. its a pleasure to see you saddha and endurance here, valued Dhammapala, your anumodana!

maybe here the gift of a related sutta: Kula Sutta: On Families

Anumodana!

Btw. brand new, this gift: Sensitivity through Generosity

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...So when you come here, either as a visitor, or as a more permanent resident, you have to realize, it is not just for the meditation. The meditation is the heart of the practice, for sure. But the heart needs other organs as well. Or you can compare it to the heart wood of a tree. The heart wood, if it doesn't have bark, and soft wood and leaves and branches, is dead. There's a lot of the little things that we tend to overlook. They contribute to the practice. There's willingness to give. If you don't have material things, give of your knowledge, give of your time, give of your energy. You look around for opportunities to give. Don't wait for them to be forced on you. That's the true nature of generosity....

more new from Ven. Bhante Thanissaro here (scroll down)


It is very appreciated if somebody like to give the gift of improvement and helps in regard of the English parts of the pages and mailing.

Attached some short explaining via pictures to handle your gift without strings as you feel that it might be skillful and proper. Maybe, in the case of putting it away, reflect in a wise way...


Never underestimate the power of small gifts

"Even if a person throws the rinsings of a bowl or a cup into a village pool or pond, thinking, 'May whatever animals live here feed on this,' that would be a source of merit."

— AN 3.57




...or come to sense and join "Anumodana!" and the joy of others as well as to multiply Dhamma in line of Dhamma.

Subscribe or Unsubscribe here - the news pipe of accesstoinsight.eu , multilingual heritage of valued Upasaka John Bullitts gift http://www.accesstoinsight.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and 2500 years of generosity and scarify, not to speak of the Buddhas goodness.

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[size=120]Dedication of Merit [/size] 

Puññassidāni katassa
Yānaññāni katāni me
Tesañca bhāgino hontu
Sattānantāppamāṇaka.


May all beings  —  without limit, without end  —
   have a share in the merit just now made,
   and in whatever other merit I have made.

Ye piyā guṇavantā ca
Mayhaṃ mātā-pitādayo
Diṭṭhā me cāpyadiṭṭhā vā
Aññe majjhatta-verino;


Those who are dear & kind to me  —
   beginning with my mother & father  —
   whom I have seen or never seen;
   and others, neutral or hostile;

Sattā tiṭṭhanti lokasmiṃ
Te-bhummā catu-yonikā
Pañc'eka-catuvokārā
Saṃsarantā bhavābhave:


beings established in the cosmos  —
   the three realms, the four modes of birth,
   with five, one, or four aggregates  —
   wandering on from realm to realm:

Ñātaṃ ye pattidānam-me
Anumodantu te sayaṃ
Ye cimaṃ nappajānanti
Devā tesaṃ nivedayuṃ.


If they know of my dedication of merit,
   may they themselves rejoice,
   And if they do not know,
   may the devas inform them.

Mayā dinnāna-puññānaṃ
Anumodana-hetunā
Sabbe sattā sadā hontu
Averā sukha-jīvino


By reason of their rejoicing
   in my gift of merit,
   may all beings always live happily,
   free from animosity.

Khemappadañca pappontu
Tesāsā sijjhataṃ subhā.

May they attain the Serene State,
   and their radiant hopes be fulfilled.

Even though the mind is intangible, it has influence over the body & all things in the world. It is capable of bringing everything in the world under its control. Still, it isn't so vicious or savage as to lack all sense of good & evil. When a person of good intentions trains the mind to enter correctly into the path of the Buddha's teachings, it will be tractable & quick to learn, developing the wisdom to bring the body, which may be behaving without any principles, back into line. In addition, it can cleanse itself to be bright & clean, free from defilements, able to realize by itself truths that are subtle & profound, bringing dazzling light into this world so dark with blindness.

This is because the true substance of the mind has been, from the very beginning, something bright & clear. But because of the preoccupations that have seeped into it and clouded it, the brightness of the mind has been temporarily darkened, making the world dark as well. If the mind were originally dark, there probably wouldn't be anyone able to cleanse it to the point where it could give rise to the light of discernment at all.

So whether the world is to be dark or bright, whether it is to experience well-being or suffering, depends on the mind of each individual. We as individuals should thus first train our own minds well, and then train the minds of others. The world will then be free from turmoil.

—Phra Ajān Thate Desaraṅsī[/color]

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I'm 27 ... Has anyone successfully experimented singleness and celibacy in their 20's and 30's? How are you able to handle pressure from society to date, get into sexual relationship, get married etc. ?

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Methuna Sutta - The Discourse on Coupling , by Piya Tan (2014; 7 pp./13KB)
    In this short essay the author explains the meaning and levels of sexuality in an advanced practice on the Buddhist path while making detail accounts on the Methuna Sutta.

 Methuna Sutta: The Discourse on Coupling
(The seven bonds of sexuality)



(Originating in Sāvatthī.)

Then the brahmin Jāṇussoṇī approached the Blessed One and exchanged greetings with him. When this courteous and friendly exchange was concluded, the brahmin Jāṇussoṇī sat down at one side. Sitting thus at one side, the brahmin Jāṇūssoṇī said this to the Blessed One:

"Does the Blessed One profess to be a brahmachari (brahmacārī)?"

"Brahmin, if one speaking rightly were to say of anyone, thus: 'He lives the perfect and pure brahmachari life, unbroken, untorn [consistent], unmixed [not altering the rules], spotless,'[1] he, brahmin, would be speaking rightly of me. For, I, brahmin, live the perfect and pure brahmachari life, unbroken, untorn [consistent], unmixed [not altering the rules], spotless."

"But, master Gotama, what is the break, the tear, the mottle, the blotch of the holy life [brahma-charya]?"[2]

"Here, brahmin, a certain ascetic or brahmin, declares himself to be a total brahmachari. For, he does not indulge in coupling [in sexual intercourse] with women. But he consents to being rubbed, massaged, bathed, and kneaded by women.[3] He relishes it, longs for it, and savours it.[4] This, brahmin, is a break, and a tear, and a mottle, and a blotch of the holy life. This, brahmin, is called one who leads the impure holy life, who is devoted to the indulgence of coupling. He is not freed from birth, decay-and-death, sorrow, lamentation, physical pain, mental pain: he is not freed from suffering, I say!

"Furthermore, brahmin, a certain ascetic or brahmin, declares himself to be a total brahmachari. Nor does he indulge in coupling with women. Nor does he consent to being rubbed, massaged, bathed, and kneaded by women. But he jokes with women, plays with them, jests with them.[5] He relishes it, longs for it, and savours it. This, brahmin, is a break, and a tear, and a mottle, and a blotch of the holy life. This, brahmin, is called one who leads the impure holy life, who is devoted to the indulgence of coupling. He is not freed from birth, decay-and-death, sorrow, lamentation, physical pain, mental pain: he is not freed from suffering, I say!

"Furthermore, brahmin, a certain ascetic or brahmin, declares himself to be a complete brahma-chari. For, he does not indulge in coupling with women. Nor does he consent to being rubbed, massaged, bathed, and kneaded by women, too. Nor does he joke, play or jest with women. But he gazes and looks on eye to eye at women.[6] He relishes it, longs for it, and savours it. This, brahmin, is a break, and a tear, and a mottle, and a blotch of the holy life. This, brahmin, is called one who leads the impure holy life, who is devoted to the indulgence of coupling. He is not freed from birth, decay-and-death, sorrow, lamentation, physical pain, mental pain: he is not freed from suffering, I say!

"Furthermore, brahmin, a certain ascetic or brahmin, declares himself to be a complete brahma-chari. For, he does not indulge in coupling with women. Nor does he consent to being rubbed, massaged, bathed, and kneaded by women, too. Nor does he joke, play or jest with women. Nor does he gaze or look on eye to eye at women. But he listens to the sounds of women through a wall or through a fence as they laugh, or talk, or sing or weep.[7] He relishes it, longs for it, and savours it. This, brahmin, is a break, and a tear, and a mottle, and a blotch of the holy life. This, brahmin, is called one who leads the impure holy life, who is devoted to the indulgence of cou-pling. He is not freed from birth, decay-and-death, sorrow, lamentation, physical pain, mental pain: he is not freed from suffering, I say!

"Furthermore, brahmin, a certain ascetic or brahmin, declares himself to be a complete brahma-chari. For, he does not indulge in coupling with women. Nor does he consent to being rubbed, massaged, bathed, and kneaded by women, too. Nor does he joke, play or jest with women. Nor does he gaze or look on eye to eye at women. Nor does he listen to the sounds of women through a wall or through a fence as they laugh, or talk, or sing or weep. But he recollects his erstwhile laughing and chatting and playing with women.[8] He relishes it, longs for it, and savours it. This, brahmin, is a break, and a tear, and a mottle, and a blotch of the holy life. This, brahmin, is called one who leads the impure holy life, who is devoted to the indulgence of coupling. He is not freed from birth, decay-and-death, sorrow, lamentation, physical pain, mental pain: he is not freed from suffering, I say!

"Furthermore, brahmin, a certain ascetic or brahmin, declares himself to be a complete brahma-chari. For, he does not indulge in coupling with women. Nor does he consent to being rubbed, massaged, bathed, and kneaded by women, too. Nor does he joke, play or jest with women. Nor does he gaze or look on eye to eye at women. Nor does he listen to the sounds of women through a wall or through a fence as they laugh, or talk, or sing or weep. Nor does he recollect the previous laughing and chatting and playing with women. But he sees a houselord or a houselord’s son being entertained, showered and serviced with the cords of sense-pleasures.[9] He relishes it, longs for it, and savours it. This, brahmin, is a break, and a tear, and a mottle, and a blotch of the holy life. This, brahmin, is called one who leads the impure holy life, who is devoted to the indulgence of coupling. He is not freed from birth, decay-and-death, sorrow, lamentation, physical pain, mental pain: he is not freed from suffering, I say!

Furthermore, brahmin, a certain ascetic or brahmin, declares himself to be a complete brahma-chari. For, he does not indulge in coupling with women. Nor does he consent to being rubbed, massaged, bathed, and kneaded by women, too. Nor does he joke, play or jest with women. Nor does he gaze or look on eye to eye at women. Nor does he listen to the sounds of women through a wall or through a fence as they laugh, or talk, or sing or weep. Nor does he recollect the previous laughing and chatting and playing with women. Nor does he see a houselord or a houselord’s son being entertained, showered and serviced with the cords of sense-pleasures. But he lives the holy life aspiring for rebirth in one of the groups of devas, thinking, 'By this rule or vow or austerity or holy life, I shall become a deva or one amongst them.'[10] He relishes it, longs for it, and savours it. This, brahmin, is a break, and a tear, and a mottle, and a blotch of the holy life.

This, brahmin, is called one who leads the impure holy life, who is devoted to the indulgence of coupling. He is not freed from birth, decay-and-death, sorrow, lamentation, physical pain, mental pain: he is not freed from suffering, I say!

"And as along as I noticed that one or other of these seven bonds of sexuality[11] unabandoned in me, to that extent, brahmin, I did not claim to be supremely awakened in the peerless full self-awakening in this world with its gods, with its Māra, with its Brahmā, this generation with its recluses and brahmins, its rulers[12] and people.

"But, brahmin, when I did not notice any of these seven bonds of sexuality unabandoned in me, to that extent, brahmin, I have claimed to be supremely awakened in the peerless full self-awakening in this world with its gods, with its Māra, with its Brahmā, this generation with its recluses and brahmins, its rulers and people.

"And the knowledge and vision arose in me, 'Unshakable is the liberation of mind. This is my last birth. There is no more rebirth here'"

When this was spoken, the brahmin Jāṇussoṇī said this to the Blessed One:

"Excellent, Master Gotama! Excellent! Master Gotama! Just as if one were to place upright what had been overturned, were to reveal what was hidden, were to show the way to one who was lost, or were to hold up a lamp in the dark so that those with eyes could see forms, in the same way, in numerous ways, has the Dharma been made clear by master Gotama. I go to tmaster Gotama for refuge, to the Dharma, and to the community of monks. May master Gotama remember us as lay followers who have gone for refuge, from this day forth, for life."

— evaṁ —


notes   

1.    Akhaṇḍaṁ acchiddaṁ asabalaṁ akammāsaṁ paripuṇṇaṁ parisuddhaṁ brahma,cariyaṁ caratî ti: the contrary case is mentioned in the foll question at the end of this section. See Intro (7)
2.    On the brahmacari, see Intro (7.1)
3.    Api ca kho mātu,gāmassa ucchādana,parimaddana,nahāpana,sambāhanaṁ sādiyati, ie rubbing powders into the body, massaging it with oils, bathing in perfumed water, kneading the limbs (DA 88, summarized); also at D 1:7,19; A 4:54,16; Nm 380,9.
4.    So tad assādeti, taṁ nikāmeti, tena ca vittim āpajjati, as at A 1:267 f, 2:126-129, 160. The last clause also at D 2:253-256; A 4:54 f; Nm 34; Dhs 484.
5.    Api ca kho mātugāmena saddhiṁ sañjagghati saṅkīḷati saṅkelāyati.
6.    Api ca kho mātugāmassa cakkhunā cakkhuṁ upanijjhāyati pekkhati.
7.    Api ca kho mātugāmassa saddaṁ suṇāti, tiro,kuḍḍaṁ vā tiro,pākāraṁ vā hasantiyā vā bhaṇantiyā vā gāyantiyā vā rodantiyā vā.
8.    Api ca kho yāni’ssa tāni pubbe mātugāmena saddhiṃ hasita,lapita,kīḷitāni, tāsi anussarati.
9.    Api ca kho passati gahapatiṁ vā gahapati,puttaṁ vā pañcahi kāma,guṇehi samappitaṁ samaṅgī,bhūtaṁ paricāriyamānaṃ. The verb paricāriyamānaṃ here refers not just being “entertained” by the serving of food (which is a common sense), but also a clearly sexual connotation as well (Olivelle 1999:58 & n29): cf paricārenti at Ambaṭṭha S (D 3.2.10a/1:105 n) = SD 21.3.
10.    Api ca kho aññataraṁ deva,nikāyaṁ paṇīdhāya brahma,cariyaṁ carati iminā’haṃ sīlena vā vatena vā tapena vā brahma,cariyena vā devo vā bhavissāmi dev’aññataro vā ‘ti. Comy: That is, he wishes to become a deva,rajah or a deva,putra (lesser celestial being) (AA 4:32). The whole passage is stock: see D 3:239; M 1:102; S 4:180; A 4:18; cf A 9.72/4:459.
11.    "Bonds of sexuality," methuna,saṁyoga; see Intro esp (1).
12.    deva, here in the sense of “devas by convention” (sammati-deva), ie kings. The other 2 types of deva are “gods by rebirth” (upapatti-deva) and “gods by purification” (visuddhi-deva), ie the Buddhas, Pratyeka Buddhas and arhats (Nc 307 KhA 123).



Many could not be found in "History" of the browser, how ever or like ever: Operator was banned, after 6h of hard work and the share of what is missing on suttas and Dhamma for release.

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http://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=23640

http://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&p=334232#p334232

And the turtle topic in regard of Pesala


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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2015, 07:07:47 PM »
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Subject:    Re: Spamming Members of Dhamma Wheel
Date:    Wed, 20 May 2015 17:23:22 +0100
From:    Bhikkhu Pesala <pesala@aimwell.org>
To:    Johann Brucker <johann.brucker@sangham.net>


See the Kesi Sutta
http://www.aimwell.org/kesi.html
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On 20 May 2015 at 13:57, Johann Brucker <johann.brucker@sangham.net> wrote:

    So what does Ven. Pesala guesses is the consequence of order to kill? Mr. Pesala?

    metta & karuna
    Samana Johann
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    On 5/20/2015 3:09 PM, Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
>     Dear Johann (Hamze)
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>     Please stop sending me spam. I have never subscribed to your anumodana mailing list, and do not wish to subscribe.

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Ven. Bhante Pesala,

By urging the moderators to "kill" user in this realm, Ven. Pesala would have caused the Pārājika 3
By quoting the "Kesi Sutta" when approached with "if you kill", Ven. Pesala would have caused the Pārājika 4
Otherwise in this, the Ven. Pesalas way of life, it's "just" a Sanghadisesa 13

So Bhante should hurry up to not only stop his ways but also, confess as soon as possible. For a third time, this was said.

metta & karuna
Samana Johann


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... and by taking what is not given as the text (Ven. Thanissaro Bhikkhu ) without giving reference and put own right on it, Ven. Pesala causes the Pārājika 2


2. Should any bhikkhu, in what is reckoned a theft, take what is not given from an inhabited area or from the wilderness — just as when, in the taking of what is not given, kings arresting the criminal would flog, imprison, or banish him, saying, "You are a robber, you are a fool, you are benighted, you are a thief" — a bhikkhu in the same way taking what is not given also is defeated and no longer in affiliation.

3. Should any bhikkhu intentionally deprive a human being of life, or search for an assassin for him, or praise the advantages of death, or incite him to die (saying): "My good man, what use is this evil, miserable life to you? Death would be better for you than life," or with such an idea in mind, such a purpose in mind, should in various ways praise the advantages of death or incite him to die, he also is defeated and no longer in affiliation.

4.  Should any bhikkhu, without direct knowledge, claim a superior human state, a truly noble distinction of knowledge and vision, as present in himself, saying, "Thus do I know; thus do I see," such that regardless of whether or not he is cross-examined on a later occasion, he — being remorseful and desirous of purification — might say, "Friends, not knowing, I said I know; not seeing, I said I see — vainly, falsely, idly," unless it was from over-estimation, he also is defeated and no longer in affiliation.

13. In case a bhikkhu living in dependence on a certain village or town is a corrupter of families, a man of depraved conduct — whose depraved conduct is both seen and heard about, and the families he has corrupted are both seen and heard about — the bhikkhus are to admonish him thus: "You, venerable sir, are a corrupter of families, a man of depraved conduct. Your depraved conduct is both seen and heard about, and the families you have corrupted are both seen and heard about. Leave this monastery, venerable sir. Enough of your staying here."

And should that bhikkhu, thus admonished by the bhikkhus, say about the bhikkhus, "The bhikkhus are biased through favoritism, biased through aversion, biased through delusion, biased through fear, in that for this sort of offense they banish some and do not banish others," the bhikkhus are to admonish him thus: "Do not say that, venerable sir. The bhikkhus are not biased through favoritism, are not biased through aversion, are not biased through delusion, are not biased through fear. You, venerable sir, are a corrupter of families, a man of depraved conduct. Your depraved conduct is both seen and heard about, and the families you have corrupted are both seen and heard about. Leave this monastery, venerable sir. Enough of your staying here."

And should that bhikkhu, thus admonished by the bhikkhus, persist as before, the bhikkhus are to rebuke him up to three times so as to desist. If while being rebuked up to three times he desists, that is good. If he does not desist, it entails initial and subsequent meetings of the Community.

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The Cullavagga, in a section that begins with the same origin story as the one for this rule (Cv.I.13-16), treats the banishment transaction in full detail, saying that a Community of bhikkhus, if it sees fit, has the authority to perform a banishment transaction against a bhikkhu with any of the following qualities:

    1) He is a maker of strife, disputes, quarrels, and issues in the Community.
    2) He is inexperienced, incompetent, and indiscriminately full of offenses (§).
    3) He lives in unbecoming association with householders.
    4) He is corrupt in his precepts, corrupt in his conduct, or corrupt in his views.
    5) He speaks in dispraise of the Buddha, Dhamma, or Saṅgha.
    6) He is frivolous in word, deed, or both.
    7) He misbehaves in word, deed, or both.
    8) He is vindictive in word, deed, or both.
    9) He practices wrong modes of livelihood.

This last category includes such practices as:

    a) running messages and errands for kings [David Snyder], ministers of state [moderator & admin], householders [serval members], etc. A modern example would be participating in political campaigns.
    b) scheming, talking, hinting, belittling others for the sake of material gain, pursuing gain with gain (giving items of small value in hopes of receiving items of larger value in return, making investments in hopes of profit, offering material incentives to those who make donations). (For a full discussion of these practices, see Visuddhimagga I.61-82.)
    c) Practicing worldly arts, e.g., medicine, fortune telling, astrology, exorcism, reciting charms, casting spells, performing ceremonies to counteract the influence of the stars, determining propitious sites, setting auspicious dates (for weddings, etc.), interpreting oracles, auguries, or dreams, or — in the words of the Vibhaṅga to the Bhikkhunīs' Pc 49 & 50 — engaging in any art that is "external and unconnected with the goal." The Cullavagga (V.33.2) imposes a dukkaṭa on studying and teaching worldly arts or hedonist doctrines (lokāyata). For extensive lists of worldly arts, see the passage from DN 2 quoted in BMC2, Chapter 10. (For the connection between lokāyata and hedonism (e.g., the Kāma Sūtra), see Warder, Outline of Indian Philosophy, pp. 38-39.)

A bhikkhu banished for indulging in any of these activities is duty-bound to undergo the 18 observances listed in Cv.I.15 (see BMC2, Chapter 20) and to mend his ways so that the Community will revoke the banishment transaction. The Commentary adds that a bhikkhu banished for corrupting families may not live in the monastery where he was misbehaving, nor enter the city or town where he was corrupting families, until after the banishment is revoked (this point is based on Cv.I.16.1). Also, even after the revoking of the banishment, he must refuse gifts from the families he had corrupted. If they ask him why, he may tell them. If they then explain that they are giving the gifts not because of his former behavior but because he has now mended his ways, he may then accept them.

If a bhikkhu, instead of mending his ways after being banished, criticizes the act of banishment or those who performed it, he is subject to this rule. The procedure to follow in dealing with him — reprimanding him in private, admonishing and rebuking him in a formal meeting of the Community — is the same as under Sg 10, beginning with the fact that a bhikkhu who, hearing that Bhikkhu X is criticizing the act of banishment, incurs a dukkaṭa if he does not reprimand X. The question of perception and the non-offenses are also the same as under that rule. As with the preceding three rules, if the offender does not respond to the rebuke or recognize that he has a saṅghādisesa offense for which he must make amends, the Community would then have grounds to suspend him as well.

Summary: To persist — after the third announcement of a formal rebuke in the Community — in criticizing a banishment transaction performed against oneself is a saṅghādisesa offense.

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Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2015, 08:14:35 PM »
Bhante, just another instance of ... ? Why are you doing this?

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Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2015, 08:47:52 PM »
Which Bhante is valued Moritz refering to? Or was it just a "let it be... ", of cause one could say "wasted years "...

Atma has to say that the accidentally opened "turtle"-topic gave much clearance in how it goes and how it acts: "'I hope, dear turtle, that you didn't go to that area. ' and Atma had to remember on this turtle here who actually was killed and more evil, her faith as well.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

64. Though all his life a fool associates with a wise man, he no more comprehends the Truth than a spoon tastes the flavor of the soup.

65. Though only for a moment a discerning person associates with a wise man, quickly he comprehends the Truth, just as the tongue tastes the flavor of the soup.

Guess whom of the poster did Atma saw as the fool and the wise in this tread?
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Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2015, 04:11:13 AM »
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Valued David, valued Admin,

Atma (Samana Johann) just saw that there is a "root" or "dependecy" problem on the Data-base. Maybe it's useful for you.

metta & karuna
Samana Johann

And got this as well:

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« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2015, 07:59:50 PM »

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Which Bhante is valued Moritz refering to?
I was referring to you.

I just thought accusing Bhikkhu Pesala of a Parajika is a quite heavy. And I did not quite understand the way in which this is implied here. So maybe you might care to expand on this to make it clearer.


I had not read and looked at all of it at first, I must admit, only the last e-mail to Ven. Pesala which seemed quite crazy on first sight...

Now after following the links, I see they have deleted everything which is actually quite sad. But the accusation of parajika and "killing" still seems quite far-out, and, well..., "mad" actually.


I was really thinking you are just playing crazy.


If it is really as you said, and Bhikkhu Pesala was the one who "ordered" the ban, then this would be indeed quite ugly.


But about this public denunciation, exaggeration/false accusation ("killing", "parajika"), one could possibly say the same or something similar.

It would be good to see the Venerables act a bit more friendly towards one another. But I have not much confidence to see that happening. Must be something from the past that I don't know or understand. Nevertheless it is somehow disturbing me a lot. It is more a thing of politics than of Dhamma I guess.

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« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2015, 02:54:54 AM »
Atma quite understands, that people like to discriminate between bad and more bad, taking such as good and bad, or good and more good, taking such as good and bad, since they don't stick to right and wrong. People would not say killer to someone who sweeps out ants lives. So there are more and lesser acceptence of misdeeds.

As for if he had or not, done or not, its simply his judgement. Vinaya is not a "Vergeltungs".justitce. For Atma it is clear, that even if told, DWs people are not keeping precepts at all but seek for justification of their deeds.

If one thinks that banning or deleting ones account is not killing, yet he can take birth on another place, then there is no such as killing at all.

If one says that deleting ones post, yet its in the area of the power of somebody else if it stays or not, then there is no such as stealing at all.

If one is justify his act, with the Sutta of Kisa that he must be an authority or the Buddha him self. How chilled through must one be to judge about life and death?

That is not the way. And if some one is observant, he could observe it for a long time and see it there every day. Killing in the name of DW. At least Atma does not tell what has been not seen and observed, outwardly and inwardly. Atma got killed not once because opposing the spread of silas and killing are relatives.

Sure does Atma plays crazy, is very serious when it should be relaxed and other wise if it is just fun and the only one whom Atma is denouncing is Atma him self but actually Atma has no desire to be a noun. Which is differnt for people who care much about it and even kill in the name of.
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« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2015, 02:58:32 AM »
After all, don't think its otherwise, Atma is more than happy if people speak out there mind. On DW if you would opposite a monk "we trust our monks", you would already be killed.

Atma will take his time to "show" all in detail if wished. The ways of act there.

One can make a topic there and ask "Do the admins listen to the advices of Monks? Do monks here suggests banning and hinting on such?", if one does not fear the existence in DW-World and don't like to protect them for doing additional misdeeds. Of course DW is very clean today, so one much know that one would ask such merely alone. They fear and others are cut of.

I remember well being "PM"ed by certain members "thank you for taking side an not harming" and Atma even did not reply to them, so full of fear are those who know the ways.


After the ban years of Atma, ago such came up: Open invitation: Help us improve your DW experience! , new not seen before. But they forgot or made just what Upasaka Moritz said "politic" and such is sad.

Politic here means to manipulate that a certain aim can be gained. Its not about precept at all.

Those who made real critics are already killed there, as Annapurna, Turtle, TheY, Dmytro, CSEe, ... all have got waring before from Atma "Don't do it, you will be killed".

So what? (Metallica lyrics are not nice, not nice at all, but there is a meaning behind)

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Re: [DD][Forum] Dhammawheel.com - Discussions on Theravada
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2015, 04:38:26 AM »
Hier auch die Untertitel in Deutsch

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Des Auto is gelb und die Kaktus san staubig,
Das Auto ist gelb und die Kakteen sind staubig,

die Fraun die schaun aus ois wia di Rabn,
die Frauen, die sehen aus wie die Raben
ganz, ganz in schwarz, die Gschroppen stampern
ganz, ganz in Scharz, die Kinder verjagend

und zuaschaun und beten, d Tantn grabn.
und zusehen und beten, die Gäber graben

Ois in dem Kaff do is ollawei staubig,
Alles in diesem abgelegenen kleinen Dorf ist immer staubig

da knirschst mit die Zaehnt, sogar wannst saufst,
hier knirscht man mit den Zähnen, sogar wenn man viel trinkt

die Sunn reisst da s Hirn o, und am Himmel do steht scho
die Sonne reißt dir das Hirn ab (brennt auf den Kopf) und am Himmel, da steht schon
zwa Tag a Wolkn wia annagschrauft.
zwei Tage eine Wolke wie angeschraubt.


Es schaut ganz schlecht aus, dass i do wegkumm,
oba i siech guat am Friedhof neben die Gleis,
Zug fahrt do kana, mei Wagn is in der Werkstatt,
und in Chef hams heit eigrabn, grad wie mir z Fleiss.

Es sieht ganz schlecht aus, das ich da wegkomme
aber ich sehe gut auf den Friedhof, neben den Gleisen,
Zug fährt da keiner, mein Wagen ist in der Werkstadt
und den Chef haben sie heute eingegraben (beerdigt), gerade so als ob mir zu Fleiß


Irgendwie hot do kana an Namen,
und hot er an, dann is er net echt,
und alle hams Angst, Angst vor frueher,
i zoe die Kreiz und i denk ma "mit Recht".

Irgendwie hat da keiner einen Namen
und hat er einen, dann ist er nicht echt
und alle haben sie Angst, Angst vor früher
ich zähle die Kreuze und denke mir "mit Recht"



Wos do so rennt, kenn i nur ausn Kino,
Was da so läuft, kenne ich nur aus dem Kino

wias ausgeht, hob i oft gnua gseng,
wie das ausgeht, haben wir oft genug gesehen

so Leit wia i rennan leicht wem ins Messer
so Leute wie ich rennen leicht jemanden ins Messer

oder kriagn sunst a groeberes Problem, drum trink i...
oder bekommen sonst ein gröberes Problem, darum trinke ich

No an Tequilla Sunrise,
noch einen Tequilla Sunrise

no an Tequilla Sunrise, (bevor der Naechste ummasteht,)
noch einen Tequila Sunrise (bevor der nächste herum steht -(sterben geht))

no an Tequilla Sunrise,
noch einen Tequila Sunrise

bevor des letzte Moi die Sunn aufgeht, die Sunn aufgeht.
bevor das letzte Mal die Sonne aufgeht, die Somne aufgeht.

Mi tuat a jeda do gastfreundlich griassen
und lacht mit die Goldzaehnt und sagt wia mei Wirt,
"ich nix verstehen, ich leider auch nix wissen",
versteh dua i a nix, oba i wass, wos do Nacht fuer Nacht passiert.

Mich tut ein jeder da gastfreundlich grüßen
und lacht mit den Goldzähnen und sagt wie mein Wirt (Gaststubenbesitzer)
"ich nichts verstehen, ich leider auch nichts wissen"
verstehen tu ich auch nichts, aber ich weiß was da Nacht für Nacht passiert


No ana redt nix und tuat ganz vue bluaten,
weu si die Kugel von an Profi selten irrt,
no ana beisst in Sand und frisst sei Zungan,
weu do von wem sehr gruendlich garbeit wird.

Noch einer redet nichts und tut ganz viel bluten
weil sich die Kugel von einem Profi nur selten verirrt
noch einer beißt in den Sand (fällt um) und frißt seine Zunge (schweigt)
weil da von jemandem sehr gründlich gearbeitet wird.


Wos do so rennt, kenn i scho ausn Kino,
nur durt is ois net so echt,
so Leit wia i finden si Freund und Hoefa,
oba do fuercht i kummans nimma z Recht, kummans nimma z Recht...

Was da so leuft kenn ich schon aus dem Kino
nru dort ist es nicht so echt
So Leute wie ich finden sich Freunde und Helfer,
aber da, fürchte ich, kommen sie nicht mehr zu recht, kommen sie nicht mehr zu recht


No an Tequilla Sunrise,
noch einen Tequilla Sunrise

no an Tequilla Sunrise, (bevor der Naechste ummasteht,)
noch einen Tequila Sunrise (bevor der nächste herum steht -(sterben geht))

no an Tequilla Sunrise,
noch einen Tequila Sunrise

bevor des letzte Moi die Sunn aufgeht, die Sunn aufgeht.
bevor das letzte Mal die Sonne aufgeht, die Somne aufgeht.



Die Nacht die is zach und wue anfoch net aufhern,
mit ihrer Hitz, mit ihren ganzen Gschra,
i bin do net stehbliebn, wollt do nur durchfahrn,
hob do kan Durscht kriagt, der Tank wor net la,

Die Nacht ist zähe und will einfach nicht aufhören
mit ihrer Hitze und dem ganzen Geschrei
ich bin nicht stehen geblieben, wollte da nur durchfahren
hab da einen Durst bekommen, der Tank war nicht leer.


I lieg do und schwitz, schwitz net nur wegn der Hitz do,
horch auf die Ratzn, es gibt sunst kane Gaest,
i prack noch die Fliegn, die wos gross wern wia Spatzn
und wart, dass der Film reisst, des dasporat ma n Rest.

Ich liege da und schwitze, schitze nicht nur von der Hitze hier
höre auf die Ratten, es gibt sonst keinen Gast
ich schlage nach die Fliegen, die welche so groß sind wie die Spatzen
und warte, dass der Film reißt, das erspart mir den Rest


Wos do so rennt, kenn i scho ausn Kino,
nur durt is noch zwa Stund vorbei,
so Leit wia i habn no amoi Glueck ghobt,
oba wia i des siech kunnt des do anders sei, kunnt des anders sei...

Was da so läuft, kenn ich schon aus dem Kino
nur dort ist es nach zwei Stunden vorbei
so Leute wie ich haben einmal Glück gehabt,
aber wie ich das sehe, könnte es da anders sein, könnte das anderes sein


No an Tequilla Sunrise, (bevor der Naechste ummasteht,)
no an Tequilla Sunrise, (bevor der Naechste ummasteht,)
no an Tequilla Sunrise, (bevor der Naechste sterben geht,)
no an Tequilla Sunrise, (bevor der Naechste a Bankerl reisst,)
no an Tequilla Sunrise,

bevor des letzte Moi die Sunn aufgeht, die Sunn aufgeht.

Noch einen Tequilla Sunrise, (bevor der Nächste herum steht)
Noch einen Tequilla Sunrise, (bevor der Nächste herum steht)
Noch einen Tequilla Sunrise, (bevor der Nächste sterben geht)
Noch einen Tequilla Sunrise, (bevor der Nächste ein Bankerl reißt (stirbt))
Noch einen Tequilla Sunrise,
bevor das letzte Mal die Sonne auf geht, die Sonne aufgeht.

...und ja, es ist etwas vergangenes. Als Atma dort durchfuhr, bekam er mit, das es da eine E-Sangha Trauma gibt, eine riesen Diskussionsplattform, die vor der Bildfläche verschwand und DW die Rolle des nachfolgens und der Kontrolle übernahm, wie auch ein Mitglied, das stets versuchte "Wahrheiten" zu posten und vielgebannt war. Aber da hat Atma nicht viel herausgefunden "sie scheigen".

Also viel Mist am Stock und keine Wille diesen aufzuarbeiten und besser noch schlimmer weiter tun.

https://esanghalert.wordpress.com/

Quote from: E-sangha News by Dr David snyder[/url]
All posts disparaging e-sangha will be removed. Some of you who responded to those posts (in other threads) may also see your posts removed. This is not anything against you, just to keep the flow of discussion on topic and your post may no longer be relevant since the disparaging comments will be removed.

PLEASE keep all comments about e-sangha toward your ability or not to log-in, updates you might have from Leo or another admin. over there, or for suggestions on how we might be able to help them get back online!

Thank you!

http://web.archive.org/web/20080625104956/http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/

While Atma was a newbie, those people as mods and admins have been done a lot in the past.

Once again, the reason of split

Now Atma remebers, "Element" was the name of the user who was targeted by the DW mob and mods. Some even though "hanzze" is Element and could not step across that trauma reflection.
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