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2019 Nov 13 20:44:51
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 13 20:28:20
Johann: Bhante  _/\_ Nyom, Nyom

2019 Nov 13 13:19:14
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 13 11:54:18
Johann: Mahā (written), not moha (following civil transliteration of khmer, very unuseful, better following pali transliteration) "Deluded Wisdom Monastery" could be understood while "Great Wisdom Monastery"  :)

2019 Nov 13 10:22:14
Johann: mudita

2019 Nov 13 09:56:41
Cheav Villa: Kana now at Panha Moha Viheara, waiting for  Bhikkuni

2019 Nov 13 09:47:10
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 12 08:01:41
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 12 05:35:02
Khemakumara:  Sīlena nibbutiṁ yanti. Through virtue they go to Unbinding. May it be a fruit-and pathful Uposatha day.

2019 Nov 11 16:41:52
Varado: Happily indeed we live, we, for whom there is [nowhere] anything at all. We will feed on rapture like the Ābhassarā devas. Dh.v.200.

2019 Nov 11 11:40:45
Johann: Ven. Sirs  _/\_ (Kana trust that leave for some rest will not reduce Bhantes releasing joy here)

2019 Nov 11 11:13:48
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 11 11:06:19
Johann: May it be an auspicious end of the Vassa of the Noble ones, a deep Anapanasati day today, for all conducting the full moon uposatha today.

2019 Nov 11 06:00:43
Johann: " Happy/peaceful the area/custom of the Arahats, craving and wandering on having layed aside"?

2019 Nov 11 03:22:11
Johann: Of which would mean what, Lok Ta, if not wishing to use google or not given means?

2019 Nov 10 23:54:03
Varado: Sukhino vata arahanto taṇhā tesaṃ na vijjati _/\_

2019 Nov 10 19:51:07
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Ariyadhammika

2019 Nov 10 17:54:44
Johann: ភនតេ វ៉ាលិ

2019 Nov 10 14:42:47
Johann: Lok Ta  _/\_

2019 Nov 09 16:31:12
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 09 16:25:14
Johann: May Nyom and all have a safe travel

2019 Nov 09 16:03:41
Cheav Villa: Kana and kids Plan to go to Aural tomorrow, will leave Phnom Penh at 5am  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 09 15:41:39
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 09 15:37:40
Johann: Bhante Ariyadhammica, Nyom Villa

2019 Nov 09 15:35:16
Johann: Sadhu

2019 Nov 09 14:56:15
Varado: Homage to the Noble Sangha _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 09 14:55:15
Varado: Blessed is the arising of Buddhas. Blessed is the explaining of the true teaching. Blessed is concord in the community of bhikkhus. Of those in concord, blessed is their practice of austerity.

2019 Nov 09 14:53:06
Johann: Ven Grandfather, Nyom Annaleana,

2019 Nov 09 01:57:47
Moritz: Vandami, Bhante Varado _/\_

2019 Nov 09 01:43:05
Varado: Pūjā ca pūjanīyānaṃ

2019 Nov 09 00:44:14
Johann: Worthy those on path or reached the aim

2019 Nov 08 22:36:29
Varado: Homage to those elder bhikkhus of long-standing who have long gone forth, the fathers and leaders of the Sangha. _/\_

2019 Nov 08 20:16:23
Johann: May the Venerables allow my persons leave, running out of battery.  _/\_

2019 Nov 08 20:09:51
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu!

2019 Nov 08 20:09:14
Varado: Homage to Good Friends. For this is the entire holy life. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 08 20:07:04
Varado: Homage to the Good Friends. For this is the entire holy life. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 08 19:29:09
Varado: Thanks for summary. I send article on milk. Anything else?

2019 Nov 08 18:53:24
Varado: Also greed, hatred, and delusion. Tīni akusalamūlāni: lobho akusalamūlaṃ doso akusalamūlaṃ moho akusalamūlaṃ (D.3.214).

2019 Nov 08 18:36:34
Johann: So does it, so does it, for Bhikkhus, layman, laywoman as well. And what is the root of stinginess? Ingratitude (wrong view).

2019 Nov 08 18:30:56
Varado: Possessing five qualities, a bhikkhuni is deposited in hell as if brought there. What five? She is miserly with dwellings, families, gains, praise, and the Dhamma (A.3.139). Pañcahi bhikkhave dhammehi samannāgatā bhikkhunī yathābhataṃ nikkhittā evaṃ niraye: katamehi pañcahi: Āvāsamaccha

2019 Nov 08 18:23:39
Varado: Macchariya for lodgings, maybe?

2019 Nov 08 18:01:17
Johann: Kana saw that Bhikkhunis has even a rule in regard of macchariya, for Vineyya in their Vinaya.

2019 Nov 08 17:58:14
Johann: So does it dear Ven. Grandfather, so does it. Amacchariya is the domain of the Noble Ones, beginning by the stream to the complete of stinginess's root.

2019 Nov 08 17:51:33
Varado: Having eliminated the stain of stinginess together with its origin, they are beyond criticism.

2019 Nov 08 17:35:15
Johann: ...and "Vineyya maccheramalaṁ samūlaṁ aninditā"

2019 Nov 08 17:29:21
Johann: These Devas and Brahmas...  :) mudita

2019 Nov 08 16:53:41
Varado: May the Buddha bless you. May the Dhamma shine on you. May Wat Ayum be a refuge to many. For any possible help with questions, please email. My pleasure.

2019 Nov 08 13:55:57
Johann: ..."This shows that the Buddha would not be troubled by those who become angry and resentful, but by those who are strongly opinionated and who relinquish their views reluctantly...."

2019 Nov 08 09:27:01
Johann: Ven. Bhantes

2019 Nov 08 09:23:11
Khemakumara:   _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Ariyadhammika

2019 Nov 08 06:26:12
Johann: It was four days after closing that decreased in last instance

2019 Nov 08 06:15:13
Moritz: The bot traffic is not decreasing.

2019 Nov 08 06:15:10
Johann: Ayasma Moritz

2019 Nov 08 06:14:53
Moritz: (was logged in long time before, but not at PC)

2019 Nov 08 06:14:52
Johann: Ayasama Moritz

2019 Nov 08 06:14:06
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 08 02:08:55
Moritz: Sadhu _/\_ May Bhante bear and overcome all sickness well _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 08 02:05:42
Khemakumara: Khantı paramaṁ tapo tītikkhā. Patient forbearance is the highest austerity

2019 Nov 08 02:01:46
Khemakumara: lack of energy because of sickness of the body (boils) Nyom Moritz

2019 Nov 08 01:53:48
Khemakumara: Meister Moritz

2019 Nov 08 01:52:12
Moritz: Hoping Bhante is well _/\_

2019 Nov 08 01:51:55
Moritz: Vandami Bhante (Khemakumara) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 20:02:22
Johann: enery, battery saysfinish for now... may there be food for liberation be found and got touched by many independently.

2019 Nov 07 20:00:16
Johann: Every being, even without capacity to gain higher, is worthy of metta, worthy to be not harmed in existance, worthy to help in times of needing the four paccayas, Ven. Grandfather.

2019 Nov 07 19:37:39
Visitor: Let us treat those with Buddhanature with the respect appropriate to future Buddhas.

2019 Nov 07 19:01:03
Johann: Maybe an inspirig topic on the matter How should I express Mudita or Joy for all beings? for all having access (upanissaya).

2019 Nov 07 18:56:59
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu. That's how mudita is good understood in relation with "Buddhanature"

2019 Nov 07 18:54:52
Visitor: Homage to all those with Buddhanature. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 18:53:59
Visitor:  Homage to all the Buddhas.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 18:28:47
Johann: Dear lok ta Visitor

2019 Nov 07 17:29:02
Cheav Villa:  _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 17:24:12
Johann: Don't worry either, yet perfect if visiting the Nuns. Mudita

2019 Nov 07 17:21:15
Cheav Villa: About the medicin called loṇasociraka, Kana will take time to go to Visit Wat Panha to ask her for detail  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 17:21:05
Johann: Cetana counts, the own one, Nyom.

2019 Nov 07 17:18:42
Johann: May Nyom not worry to much about it. My person guesses Nyom Chanroth might have lot of joy in the idea of planting. While Cacaco is fine, yet not a need or request, it's something that can be gained in shops.

2019 Nov 07 17:09:57
Cheav Villa: Kana now seen without Sila… someone could not tell the truth 

2019 Nov 07 17:01:13
Cheav Villa: Kana ordered 5kg via web, phoned them 2days ago but still no delivery cause of no confirmation since he still abroad now

2019 Nov 07 16:49:17
Cheav Villa: But the Cacao company in Mondolkiri doesnt allowed, they sale Cacao beans.

2019 Nov 07 16:47:38
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ as he informed to bring only Cacao fruits for Bhante could make and use of medecine againts Malaria

2019 Nov 07 16:20:48
Johann: Indeed releasing investigation cause hunger and no food can be expected at the end as well.

2019 Nov 07 16:18:35
Johann: When homeless effort is requested, no joy in sacrificing into it. Oh this monks... of modern world.  :)

2019 Nov 07 16:16:59
Johann: Oh this monks  :) When household effort can be made for favor and house, all engaged...

2019 Nov 07 14:17:18
Johann: Āyasmā Moritz (Master, a usual address for skilled lay people in the Tipitaka)

2019 Nov 06 17:27:06
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2019 Nov 06 17:23:52
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2019 Nov 06 17:23:46
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Nov 06 00:13:12
Vithou:  _/\_

2019 Nov 05 22:47:19
Moritz: Hello Visitor! _/\_

2019 Nov 05 16:44:34
Johann: ...and that is good! Cacao

2019 Nov 05 16:31:04
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

2019 Nov 05 16:28:43
Johann: no secrets...

2019 Nov 05 16:04:15
Cheav Villa:  :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 05 16:03:13
Cheav Villa: I Kana got an inform from Pou Chanroth told about CaCoa seeds e

2019 Nov 05 15:49:59
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 05 10:01:43
Danilo: Bhante _/\_

2019 Nov 05 10:00:01
Johann: Nyom Danilo

2019 Nov 05 07:00:40
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 05 06:14:16
Johann: Sadhu

2019 Nov 05 06:10:03
Khemakumara: Sīlena nibbutiṁ yanti. Through virtue they go to Unbinding. May it be a fruit-and pathful Uposatha day.

2019 Nov 04 18:27:13
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

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Celebrating same-sex marriage in Buddhism
« on: June 28, 2015, 08:06:29 PM »
Quote from: mikenz66, DW
Celebrating same-sex marriage in Buddhism
June 27, 2015 by Justin Whitaker


   
Today I am thrilled to join millions across the country in celebration of the Supreme Court’s decision to legalize same-sex marriage across all 50 states. In honor of the decision, along with joining the facebook “Celebrate Pride” campaign with this blog’s facebook profile pic, I thought I would repost one of the blog’s most popular entries. Please enjoy, comment, take pride, etc, and remember that there is still much work to be done.
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    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/americanbuddhist/2015/06/celebrating-same-sex-marriage-in-buddhism.html

Great... So the next step will be marriage under 14 and then marriage with animals... How could a disciple of the Buddha be happy when sensual desire takes on such dimensions and hiri get's lost...

Be sure, that somebody with only a little wisdom, will never celebrate the downfall of this world.
That is actually all you have got by those pseudo liberal monks...
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Re: Celebrating same-sex marriage in Buddhism
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2017, 10:28:30 AM »
Jewish Rabbi marry a Jew Zen-Monk with a non-jew Zen-Monk...

Jüdischer Rabbi verheiratet jüdische Zen-Mönch mit nich-jüdischem Zen-Mönch...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/07/fashion/weddings/for-this-couple-its-death-till-they-part.html

Shared by Bhante @Khemindas  on DW. Thay will be a joy for @Sujato Bhikkhu and his followers.

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Re: Celebrating same-sex marriage in Buddhism
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2017, 12:01:13 PM »
Namasakara Bhante, _/\_

what do such unusual modern marriage arrangements have at all to do with Buddhism?
I don't see it as anything to worry nor to celebrate.
And why would a monk chime in on it in such a derisive manner? Are such the customs of the noble ones ?

Your colleague @Paññobhāsa whom you critized here in an unintelligible manner at least has some more nuanced thoughts about these topics, although I don't see why it is important for him or for interested in the Dhamma at all.

Strange... and silly.

Such political monks are those who destroy the Dhamma and right view in Asia, taking on either left or right, for the poor or rich... that is exact not the way.

[... blahblahblah ...]

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*  The mentioning function does not seem to work, maybe it is because of Pali diacritics in the name... test: Administration test: @Paññobhāsa ... not working
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Re: Celebrating same-sex marriage in Buddhism
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2017, 12:34:42 PM »
Sadhu Nyom Moritz . There is nothing what does not arise in Samsara...

Actually one is right in thinking "Well, if they would understand they would not do.", and see it just as a further persersion of decaying times, giving him food for disattachment to the world.

As for pointing out such: Since it is dominant today, giving even the holly life such ideals, its good to open ways that one could see the effects of pseudo liberality.

As for Bhante Paññobhāsa , my person, and surely many, worry a lot of his future, not only because he tries to "fight" world with world, not seeing being caught himself at all.

There is no danger for one having found solide convidemce, and such hints are not meant to increase a "we" and "they at all, but to possible open the eyes of one in doubt, that convidence in the Dhamma has nothing to do with approval of desire.

Yet knowing for example simply people in remote areas, where people live open next to each other, knowing that they are with defilements and openly and friendly accept each other, speaking open in regard of strange tendencies, like one with a to long and one with a to short nose, now both knowing that they are imperfect, not fighting for approval of to short and to long noses should be seen as perfect as well and so do not cut away real desire-worthy aims and Noble Ones.

While to draw a picture that pseudo liberalism is the same as real liberal is very poisonous for society in lage and will at the end bring them strong rightwing Führers automaticaly. So the "problem" is not directly the freaky apprearance but that what will naturaly come when people at lage feel to much disturbed and endangered in ethical security. But this folk does not learn...

And you are right in saying, that is not what should be a monks business, but Atma hopes that he can provide with the "testing" purpose of such kitchen posts and he hardly is able to catch someone here, and that actually makes him kind of glad of the members of reader and supporter.

So such post are merely for those clinging to extrem views of pseudo liberalism althought it might not easy help, like in the case of Sujato and his freaky fellows of Dhamma - punks. If one feels nailed down with something that is really not good, seeing his extrems do not bring honor (such people seek at least such) one might bend his ways, when "friends" turn away.

* Johann : could not find out what's the problem with mentioning. It happens periodical and might have to do with a java problem, maybe a conflict with another (by the runnig extern webpages here perhaps? No means to investigate. Khemindas an Sujato Bhikkhu did not work as well. So it does not seem to be a diacritics problem.

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Re: Celebrating same-sex marriage in Buddhism
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2017, 12:58:14 PM »
And what is the message here in means of the Dhamma and the danger of approving strange things generally, having "leaders" of what is good and bad, embody absurdness?

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Lokapala Sutta: The Bright Protectors

"Bhikkhus, these two bright principles protect the world. What are the two? Shame and fear of wrongdoing. If, bhikkhus, these two bright principles did not protect the world, there would not be discerned respect for mother or maternal aunt or maternal uncle's wife or a teacher's wife or the wives of other honored persons, and the world would have fallen into promiscuity, as with goats, sheep, chickens, pigs, dogs, and jackals. But as these two bright principles protect the world, there is discerned respect for mother... and the wives of other honored persons."

And, just to make clear, such things can be found in any tradition, as long peoples are not in or bound to the Sangha of the Noble Ones.

So a person with moral shame and conscience, in the case he is not able to overcome his tendencies, would not care name and image of worthy ones but have a sense of shame. Like a smoker would not glorify his disability and leave the room to maintain his addictions desire.
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Re: Celebrating same-sex marriage in Buddhism
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2017, 01:28:44 PM »
* Johann Mentioning - Test:

What would the Buddha say, to his disciples, confronted with such stories, Bhante Khemindas  , Sujato Bhikkhu , Bhante Paññobhāsa , Bhante Chantasaro  , Ayya Agganyani , Nyom @Marcel   Johann Khemindas  Harry  ?

* Johann : Aufgefallen ist nur, Moritz , daß im Fall der beiden umgewandelten Nennungen das Auswahlmenü zwei mal gekommen und gedrückt wurde... und Moritz immer funktioniert, selbst ohne Auswahlmenü... ::)  Nissaya?  :)
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Re: Celebrating same-sex marriage in Buddhism
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2017, 02:39:38 PM »
What would the Buddha say, to his disciples, confronted with such stories, Bhante @Khemindas  , @Sujato Bhikkhu  , Bhante @Paññobhāsa , Bhante @Chantasaro   , Ayya @Agganyani  , Nyom @Marcel    Johann @Khemindas  Harry  ?

Thought on as well:

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

"Bhikkhus, one possessing four qualities is deposited in hell as if brought there. What four? (1) Without investigating and scrutinizing, one speaks praise of one who deserves dispraise. (2) Without investigating and scrutinizing, one speaks dispraise of one who deserves praise. (3) Without investigating and scrutinizing, one believes a matter that merits suspicion. (4) Without investigating and scrutinizing, one is suspicious about a matter that merits belief. Possessing these four qualities one is deposited in hell as if brought there.

"Bhikkhus, one possessing four [other] qualities is deposited in heaven as if brought there. What four? (1) Having investigated and scrutinized, one speaks dispraise of one who deserves dispraise. (2) Having investigated and scrutinized, one speaks praise of one who deserves praise. (3) Having investigated and scrutinized, one is suspicious about a matter that merits suspicion. (4) Having investigated and scrutinized, one believes a matter that merits belief. Possessing these four qualities one is deposited in heaven as if brought there."

and

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

"There are, Potaliya, those four kinds of persons found existing in the world. Of those four, the one that is the most excellent and sublime is the one who speaks dispraise of someone who deserves dispraise, and the dispraise is accurate, truthful, and timely; and who also speaks praise of someone who deserves praise, and the praise is accurate, truthful, and timely. For what reason? Because what excels, Potaliya, is knowledge of the proper time to speak in any particular case."


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Critic toward people one is in relation, bond to, part of.
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2018, 07:44:23 AM »

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Ein oder mehrer Beiträge wurden hier im Thema abgeschnitten und damit in neues Thema "Critic toward people one is in relation, bond to, part of. " eröffnet, dem angehäng.
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Re: Celebrating same-sex marriage in Buddhism
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2018, 06:11:21 PM »
Okasa,

Why there seems to be an overlap between the supporters of

Same sex marriage and
Modern bhikkhuni ordination ?


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Re: Celebrating same-sex marriage in Buddhism
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2018, 06:41:21 PM »
If wanderer came here to erect what ever kind of liṅga here, he wasts his time. Nobody will worship it and there is great danger that the cut of may hurt in this way.

Look out for a useful work which is conductive for wanderer gus current and next life. In this domain there will be no support of what ever stand, diṭṭhi, liṅgaṃ or yoni worshipping and to find fellows to gain revange, or satifactiin by winning against other opinions "housholder" domains and outer lands may be better.

Stay or come on puñña-vathu and if still to weak better take a rest and let old things cool out by withdraw.

Does wanderer gus understands this clearly now? Leave your household aside and outside and don't try to make the Noble Domain your home in this way. That is catching a snake at it's tail. Those in charge will care about or not, but this things are not his business at all.
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Re: Celebrating same-sex marriage in Buddhism
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2018, 07:12:37 PM »
Okasa,

Tone of a reply reveals many things.

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Re: Celebrating same-sex marriage in Buddhism
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2018, 07:25:16 PM »
Hopefully the right, wanderer gus .
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