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2019 Jan 15 19:41:08
Khemakumara: Nyom Moritz

2019 Jan 15 19:38:38
Moritz: Vandami Bhante (Khemakumara) _/\_

2019 Jan 15 17:13:16
Johann: Nyom Puthy, maybe this helps: ការរបៀបឆ្លេីយនៅក្នុង website .

2019 Jan 15 16:10:29
Ieng Puthy: ព្រះអង្គករុណាសូមថ្វាយបង្គំុលាសិនហេីយ 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

2019 Jan 15 16:07:58
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាគ្រាន់តែចូលអាន ករុណាមិនទាន់យល់ពីរបៀបឆ្លេីយនៅក្នុងwebsite នៅឡេីយទេ ព្រះអង្គ 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

2019 Jan 15 16:00:58
Johann: How ever one feels inspired, has joy, likes to give into.  How can I use the forum purposefully, for myself, as well as for others?

2019 Jan 15 15:57:55
Johann: No need to use all possibilities for merits for one alone but good to invite others to join and become more independend till free.

2019 Jan 15 15:04:39
Johann: no requirement to do all, merits step by step. "The path to nibbana is hard", they say, and don't do even little steps, Nyom. As inspired, its at least a working and concentration camp, Devas delight in creation, Devas having contr. over the creation of others.

2019 Jan 15 14:53:43
Cheav Villa: ព្រះអង្គការបកប្រែមកជាខ្មែរ  មានខុសច្រើនណាស់  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 15 14:49:16
Khemakumara: leng Puthy

2019 Jan 15 14:48:29
Khemakumara: Nyom leng Pitts

2019 Jan 15 14:45:35
Johann: There is a lot of new for many. If the Nyom Ladies like to help in translating here and there a little, it might be easier for khmer-speaking monks to get informed well.

2019 Jan 15 14:25:23
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ ព្រះអង្គ Bhante Khemakumara

2019 Jan 15 13:33:34
Khemakumara: Bhante Muni

2019 Jan 15 13:32:47
Khemakumara: Bhante Johann _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 15 13:27:53
Johann: Bhante Muni

2019 Jan 15 10:46:40
Johann: But a topic can be opened everywhere and can then be moved.

2019 Jan 15 10:45:27
Johann: There is also a Link to direct Requests for Teachings - link, so things get not lost.

2019 Jan 15 10:44:12
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាព្រះអង្គ🙏🏻អរព្រះគុុណ ព្រះអង្គ

2019 Jan 15 10:42:55
Johann: Good place is surely at  Dhammatalks - (dhamma desanā)

2019 Jan 15 10:35:06
Johann: Talkbox is not proper, just for greating and small-talk

2019 Jan 15 10:24:47
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ព្រះអង្គ តេីមានធម៌អ្វីដែលអាចកំចាត់ធម៌លោភៈល្អិតនៅក្នុងចិត្តបានដែរឬទេ ?ព្រះអង្គ Vandami Banthe 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Jan 15 10:21:37
Johann: Just open a new topic best, Nyom Puthy (requires some bhava-chanda)

2019 Jan 15 10:17:22
Johann: Nyom Puthy

2019 Jan 15 10:07:10
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ ព្រះអង្គ Vandami Banthe

2019 Jan 15 10:01:15
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ ព្រះអង្គមុនី! ករុណាមានសំណួរ១អំពី អនុស្ស័យកិលេសមាន៧ គឺ 1-កាមរាគានុស្ស័យ 2-ភវនុស្ស័យ3

2019 Jan 15 09:31:36
Cheav Villa:  :)  _/\_

2019 Jan 15 09:27:54
Chanroth: ខ្ញុំព្រះករុណាសូមថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គមុន្នី ពីរអាស្រមថ្មទូក_/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 15 09:21:46
Chanroth: បាតជំរាបសួរបងស្រី ខ្ញុំមិនទាន់បានធ្វេីនៅឡេីយទេ ពីព្រោះខ្ញុំឈឺ បានធូហេីយ តែមិនទាន់បាត់ថ្លោះករនៅឡេីយ _/\_

2019 Jan 15 08:57:49
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គមុនី  _/\_

2019 Jan 15 07:34:19
Johann: Bhante Khemakumara

2019 Jan 15 05:57:47
Cheav Villa: តើពូកំពុងជួយការងារលោកតាមែនទេ?តើនៅអាស្រមមានកង្វះខាតអ្វីទេនៅពេលនេះ

2019 Jan 15 05:54:51
Cheav Villa: ជំរាបសួរពូចាន់រ័ត្ន _/\_

2019 Jan 15 01:12:12
Johann: And "we" wouldn't always know or find out but need to relay on one who know

2019 Jan 15 01:06:48
Johann: There are two kinds of sadness and happiness, of which one of each is conductive for liberation, one not.

2019 Jan 15 01:02:24
Mohan Gnanathilake: May we always be able to find out for ourselves how much attachment we accumulate, and whether this brings us happiness or sorrow! Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!

2019 Jan 15 01:00:52
Mohan Gnanathilake: Mögen wir immer  selbst herausfinden kӧnnen, wie viel Anhaftung wir anhäufen und ob  diese Anhaftung uns die Frӧhlichkeit oder  die Traurigkeit bringt! Dhamma Grüβe aus Sri Lanka!

2019 Jan 14 13:52:41
Johann: Nyom Puthy. May you all have good Dhamma conversations with each other, don't be shy on that. Atma will go to rest.

2019 Jan 14 13:48:00
Johann: ញោម ចាន់រ័ត្ន

2019 Jan 14 12:49:01
Cheav Villa: អរព្រះគុណព្រះអង្គ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 14 12:36:20
Mohan Gnanathilake: May we possess the causes of blissfulness always! Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!

2019 Jan 14 12:35:18
Mohan Gnanathilake: Mӧgen wir immer die Ursachen der Glückseligkeit besitzen! Dhamma Grüβe  aus Sri Lanka!

2019 Jan 14 10:20:32
Johann: "នាងវិសាខា ក្រាបបង្គំទូលថា ថ្ងៃនេះខ្ញុំម្ចាស់រក្សាឧបោសថៈព្រះអង្គ។"...

2019 Jan 14 09:49:40
Chanroth:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 14 06:59:34
Cheav Villa: Jain-Upossathaកូណាមុិនទាន់យល់ន័យនៃពាក្យនេះទេ _/\_

2019 Jan 14 05:12:41
Johann: "មិនមែនជារបស់ខ្លួន"... មែន(sense)ទុក្ខឬមិន? Where?

2019 Jan 14 04:57:55
Johann: Buddha and Savaka do not teach Jain-Uposatha: អ្នកណា​មាទុក្ខ? , Sadhu

2019 Jan 14 04:50:21
Johann: ជាធម៌អសេង្ខបុគ្គល! មានទេមិនមាន ... ការនិយាយអំពីសត្វ។ ធម៌ទាំងអស់មានមូលហេតុ ដូច្នេះ: រឿងដំបូងនៅលើកដំបូង!

2019 Jan 14 04:21:59
Cheav Villa: មិនមែនជារបស់ខ្លួន ជាអនត្តាធម៌ ជាធម៌អសេង្ខបុគ្គល  _/\_

2019 Jan 14 04:16:00
Johann: មិនមែនជារបស់ខ្លួនទេ = មិនមែនទុក្ខទេ

2019 Jan 14 04:06:00
Johann: Nyom Puthy

2019 Jan 14 04:05:16
Johann: ទុក្ខំ អនិច្ចំ អន្តតា !

2019 Jan 14 02:18:42
Chanroth: ទុក្ខំ អនិច្ចំ អន្តតា

2019 Jan 13 15:16:49
Johann: First things first , very recommended, hearing the Uposatha of the Jains from the Villages all the time here.

2019 Jan 13 15:05:49
Johann: again and again coming back to Dhamma, Punja? Habits become destinies.

2019 Jan 13 14:53:42
Johann: coming back seems to be niccaŋ

2019 Jan 13 14:40:52
Cheav Villa: អនិច្ចំ *sgift*

2019 Jan 13 14:29:43
Ieng Puthy:  Chom reap leah , good bye🙏🏼

2019 Jan 13 14:18:50
Moritz: Chom reap leah, good bye _/\_

2019 Jan 13 14:11:50
Ieng Puthy: Hello Master Morithz🙏🏼

2019 Jan 13 14:07:24
Moritz: Hello Ieng Puthy _/\_

2019 Jan 13 14:07:16
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Jan 13 13:54:34
Ieng Puthy: ជំរាបសួរ បងចាន់រ័ត្ន Bong Chanroth 🙏🏼សូមបងឆាប់បានជាសះស្បេីយ

2019 Jan 13 13:49:26
Johann: Meister Moritz

2019 Jan 13 09:17:06
Chanroth: ខ្ញំបានជាហើយ តែវេទនាបានកើតឡើងចំពោះខ្ញុំ បញ្ហាថ្លោះកករ :-\

2019 Jan 13 07:49:41
Cheav Villa: ជំរាបសួរពូចាន់រ័ត្ន ពូបានធូរស្បើយហើយមើលទៅ :D _/\_

2019 Jan 13 07:48:35
Cheav Villa: Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 13 07:47:10
Johann: May all spent a meritful Siladay today or tomorrow.

2019 Jan 13 05:07:45
Chanroth: ជំរាបសួរបងស្រី វីឡាខ្ញុំបាទchanroth _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 13 00:05:39
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាព្រះអង្គ Bhante 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Jan 12 09:04:48
Johann: Nyom Puthy

2019 Jan 11 13:49:09
Cheav Villa: Thank you Bang Thy. Good come in and out  :D _/\_

2019 Jan 11 13:41:49
Johann: Sadhu

2019 Jan 11 13:13:35
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻ជំរាបសួរបងប្អូនធម្មមិត្តទាំងអស់គ្នា chumreap sour Dhamma friends !  May all have a good evening

2019 Jan 11 13:04:15
Ieng Puthy: ករុណា ព្រះអង្គ Bhante 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Jan 09 17:17:52
Cheav Villa: Bhante  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 09 16:12:53
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Jan 09 05:06:55
Johann: Nyom Puthy

2019 Jan 09 00:43:24
Johann: Sadhu

2019 Jan 08 16:15:17
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ​ Khemakumara Bhante

2019 Jan 08 16:13:20
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ​ Inddanano Bhante

2019 Jan 08 16:11:09
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 កូរុណាថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ​ vandami Bhente

2019 Jan 08 12:48:21
Moritz: May all have a good evening _/\_ Chom reap leah _/\_

2019 Jan 08 12:38:37
Moritz: :) Sayun suesday _/\_

2019 Jan 08 12:34:56
Cheav Villa: Thank you Master Moritz _/\_ Well and unwell are welcoming  :D

2019 Jan 08 12:22:05
Johann: Good to read and Sadhu

2019 Jan 08 12:17:08
Moritz: I am fine. Thanks. I hope Bhante and everyone around is well as well   _/\_

2019 Jan 08 12:11:29
Johann: Master Moritz. How is Nyom?

2019 Jan 08 12:07:29
Moritz: I think this design with shoutbox on top is a good expedient solution.

2019 Jan 08 12:06:02
Moritz: hello everyone

2019 Jan 08 12:05:58
Moritz: _/\_ Vandami Bhante,

2019 Jan 06 15:31:56
Khemakumara: It is going better!  Day by day  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 06 14:36:43
Johann: Bhante, how is Bhantes health?

2019 Jan 05 15:54:04
Cheav Villa: Bhante  _/\_ Kana realized that's reasonable

2019 Jan 05 15:29:43
Cheav Villa: កូណាថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ​ Inddanano  _/\_

2019 Jan 05 15:16:21
Johann: Bhante  _/\_, kana dwai bongum

2019 Jan 05 15:13:22
Johann:
trust that's correct. ?

2019 Jan 05 14:50:30
Johann: ", likewise/similar Br{e}a(hma): sublime one, master, Sir, lord. និង nàŋ: and, further.

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Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Upanisa Sutta: Grundvoraussetzungen

In Savatthi verweilend... "Bhikkhus, das Enden von Ausflüssen, ist für einen der weiß und sieht, sage ich Euch, nicht für einen der nicht weiß und nicht sieht. Für einen der was weiß und was sieht, ist da das Enden von Ausflüssen? 'So ist Form, so ihr Entstehen, so ihr Verschwinden. So ist Gefühl, so sein Entstehen, so sein Verschwinden. So ist Vorstellung, so sein Entstehen, so sein Verschwinden. So sind Gestaltungen, so ihr Entstehen, so ihr Verschwinden. So ist Bewußtsein, so sein Entstehen, so sein Verschwinden.' Das Enden von Ausflüssen, ist für einen der in dieser Weise weiß und in dieser Weise sieht.

"Das Wissen von Enden, in der Gegenwart von Enden, hat seine Grundvoraussetzung, sage ich Euch. Es ist nicht ohne eine Grundvoraussetzung. Und was ist die Grundvoraussetzung für das Wissen von Enden? Befreiung, sollte gesagt werden. Befreiung hat seine Grundvoraussetzung, sage ich Euch. Es ist nicht ohne eine Grundvoraussetzung. Und was ist seine Grundvoraussetzung? Nichtbegierde... Ernüchterung... Wissen und Vision, über Dinge so wie sie tatsächlich gegenwärtig sind... Konzentration... Wohl... Gestilltheit... Entzücken... Freude... Vertrauen... Streß... Geburt... Werden... Festhalten... Verlangen... Gefühl... Berührung... die sechs Sinnesträger... Name-und-Form... Bewußtsein... Gestaltungen... Gestaltungen haben deren Grundvoraussetzung. Und was ist deren Grundvoraussetzung? Unwissenheit, sollte gesagt werden.

"So haben Gestaltungen Unwissenheit als deren Grundvoraussetzung, Bewußtsein hat Gestaltungen als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Name-und-Form hat Bewußtsein als seine Grundvoraussetzung, der sechs Sinnesträger hat Name-und Form als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Berührung hat den sechs Sinnesträger als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Gefühl hat Berührung als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Verlangen hat Gefühl als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Festhalten hat Verlangen als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Werden hat Festhalten als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Geburt hat Werden als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Streß und Leiden hat Geburt als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Vertrauen hat Geburt als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Freude hat Vertrauen als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Verzücken hat Freude als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Gestilltheit hat Verzücken als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Konzentration hat Wohl als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Wissen und Vision von Dingen, wie sie tatsächlich gegenwärtig sind, hat Ernüchterung als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Nichtbegierde hat Wissen und Vision von Dingen, wie sie tatsächlich gegenwärtig sind, als Grundvoraussetzung, Befreiung hat Nichtbegierde als seine Grundvoraussetzung, Wissen von Enden hat Befreiung als seine Grundvoraussetzung.

"Gerade so als ob Götter Regen in schweren Tropfen schütten und Donner schmettern, in den oberen Bergen: Füllt das Wasser, die Hänge hinunter fließend, der Berge Kluften und Spalten und Rinnen. Wenn der Berge Kluften und Spalten und Rinnen voll sind, füllen diese kleine Weiher. Wenn die kleinen Weiher voll sind, füllen diese die großen Seen. Wenn die großen Seen voll sind, füllen diese die kleinen Flüsse. Wenn die kleinen Flüsse voll sind, füllen diese die großen Flüsse. Wenn die großen Flüsse voll sind, füllen diese den großen Ozean. In selber Weise:

Gestaltungen haben Unwissenheit als deren Grundvoraussetzung, saṅkhārā

Bewußtsein hat Gestaltungen als seine Grundvoraussetzung, viññāṇa

Name-und-Form hat Bewußtsein seine Grundvoraussetzung, nāmarūpa

sechs Sinnesträger hat Name-und-Form als seine Grundvoraussetzung, saḷāyatana

Berührung hat sechs Sinnesträger als seine Grundvoraussetzung, phassa

Gefühl hat Berührung als seine Grundvoraussetzung, vedana

Verlangen hat Gefühl als seine Grundvoraussetzung, taṇha

Festhalten hat Verlangen als seine Grundvoraussetzung, upādāna

Werden hat Festhalten als seine Grundvoraussetzung, bhava

Geburt hat Werden als seine Grundvoraussetzung, jāti

Streß und Leiden hat Geburt als seine Grundvoraussetzung, dukkha

Vertrauen hat Streß und Leiden als seine Grundvoraussetzung, saddha

Freude hat Vertrauen als seine Grundvoraussetzung, pāmujja

Verzücken hat Freude als seine Grundvoraussetzung, pīti

Gestilltheit hat Verzücken als seine Grundvoraussetzung, passaddhi

Wohl hat Gestilltheit als seine Grundvoraussetzung, sukha

Konzentration hat Wohl als seine Grundvoraussetzung, samādhi

Wissen und Vision von Dingen, wie sie tatsächlich gegenwärtig sind, hat Konzentration als seine Grundvoraussetzung, athābhūtañāṇadassana

Ernüchterung hat Wissen und Vision von Dingen, wie sie tatsächlich gegenwärtig sind, als Grundvoraussetzung, nibbida

Nichtbegierde hat Ernüchterung als seine Grundvoraussetzung, virāga

Befreiung hat Nichtbegierde als seine Grundvoraussetzung, vimutti

Wissen von Enden hat Befreiung als seine Grundvoraussetzung. khaye ñāṇa"
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"Believe" is actually the most required prerequisite, not only to listen to the Dhamma but also to put an effort to get results you are not able to know for now.
It is a modern delusion that there is even any action (effort) without believing in first place and of cause such a beloved view was long time used to sell Dhamma of the Buddha to people in broad and use it as opposition to other religions.
The different is just, that you can put your believe at least to a prove which others mostly not can and they also lack of samples (people) who have reached the promised.
For some more understand of what actually believe (no need to quarrel about the certain word for it: following something what actually is not really known and seen now) you may read:
Faith In Awakening
Refuge: An Introduction to the Buddha, Dhamma, & Sangha
The Truth of Rebirth: And Why it Matters for Buddhist Practice
or
A Look at the Kalama Sutta , by Bhikkhu Bodhi (1998; 4pp./12KB)
 
Some popular contemporary teachings claim that the Buddha advocates putting one's trust solely in what one can know and experience directly for oneself. In fact, when we take into careful consideration the context of this sutta, it becomes clear that this interpretation altogether misses a much more important point.
 
Altogether it's the root factor in the depending co-arising that leads to the end of suffering: Upanisa Sutta: Prerequisites   "...stress & suffering have birth as their prerequisite, conviction (saddha) has stress & suffering as its prerequisite, joy has conviction as its prerequisite...release has dispassion as its prerequisite, knowledge of ending has release as its prerequisite."
The condition that one has unshakable faith into Buddha, Dhamma and Sangha incl. virtue describes a person who has entered the stream and is already no more able to miss the finally aim. (DN 16 )
How ever, it also runs sometimes this way: "When this was said, Upaka said, 'May it be so, my friend,' and — shaking his head, taking a side-road — he left." (Ariyapariyesana Sutta: The Noble Search ) Circle of Life and suffering and the way out of it
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For a person facing Stress and suffering and meeting the Tripple Gems, there is no act of will, 'May I gain conviction'. It is the nature of things that in a person, facing Stress and suffering and facing the Tripple Gems, conviction is gained.

For a person with conviction, there is no act of will, 'May I be generous, may I have possibility to give, my I let go of stingyness'. It is in the nature of things that, in a person of conviction, generosity and giving is established.

For a person of generosity and freedom of stinginess, there is no act of will, 'May I become virtuous'. It is the nature of things that, in a person of generosity and freedom of stinginess, virtue increases.


Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Cetana Sutta: An Act of Will

"For a person endowed with virtue, consummate in virtue, there is no need for an act of will, 'May freedom from remorse arise in me.' It is in the nature of things that freedom from remorse arises in a person endowed with virtue, consummate in virtue.

"For a person free from remorse, there is no need for an act of will, 'May joy arise in me.' It is in the nature of things that joy arises in a person free from remorse.

"For a joyful person, there is no need for an act of will, 'May rapture arise in me.' It is in the nature of things that rapture arises in a joyful person.

"For a rapturous person, there is no need for an act of will, 'May my body be serene.' It is in the nature of things that a rapturous person grows serene in body.

"For a person serene in body, there is no need for an act of will, 'May I experience pleasure.' It is in the nature of things that a person serene in body experiences pleasure.

"For a person experiencing pleasure, there is no need for an act of will, 'May my mind grow concentrated.' It is in the nature of things that the mind of a person experiencing pleasure grows concentrated.

"For a person whose mind is concentrated, there is no need for an act of will, 'May I know & see things as they actually are.' It is in the nature of things that a person whose mind is concentrated knows & sees things as they actually are.

"For a person who knows & sees things as they actually are, there is no need for an act of will, 'May I feel disenchantment.' It is in the nature of things that a person who knows & sees things as they actually are feels disenchantment.

"For a person who feels disenchantment, there is no need for an act of will, 'May I grow dispassionate.' It is in the nature of things that a person who feels disenchantment grows dispassionate.

"For a dispassionate person, there is no need for an act of will, 'May I realize the knowledge & vision of release.' It is in the nature of things that a dispassionate person realizes the knowledge & vision of release.

"In this way, dispassion has knowledge & vision of release as its purpose, knowledge & vision of release as its reward. Disenchantment has dispassion as its purpose, dispassion as its reward. Knowledge & vision of things as they actually are has disenchantment as its purpose, disenchantment as its reward. Concentration has knowledge & vision of things as they actually are as its purpose, knowledge & vision of things as they actually are as its reward. Pleasure has concentration as its purpose, concentration as its reward. Serenity has pleasure as its purpose, pleasure as its reward. Rapture has serenity as its purpose, serenity as its reward. Joy has rapture as its purpose, rapture as its reward. Freedom from remorse has joy as its purpose, joy as its reward. Skillful virtues have freedom from remorse as their purpose, freedom from remorse as their reward.

"In this way, mental qualities lead on to mental qualities, mental qualities bring mental qualities to their consummation, for the sake of going from the near to the Further Shore."

For a person with blessed birth, auspicious reappearing, is there no act of will, 'May I realize stress and suffering, may I meet the Tripple Gems.' It is tha nature of things, that a person with blessed birth, auspicious reappearing, sees suffering and stress, meets the Tripple Gems.

So is it, that Guest s birth, your reapearing, has the realization of stress and suffering and the meeting of the Tripple Gems as purpose, has realization of stress and suffering and the meeting of the Tripple Gems as its reward.

Who would - if seeing - waist a gifted (re)birth away? Would not train in conviction - gained by be-visioned - by it's fundations, at any time, on any place, and to recollect the Juwels to clean him/herself.
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