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Author Topic: Karma Yeshe Rabgye, helps you to kill your mammy and daddy! 100% Compassionated!  (Read 1371 times)

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Dieses neue Thema wurde  aus abgetrennten Beiträgen, ursprünglich in Why and how Mohayanas and "Buddhist" justify killing and stealing. ,  hier zu einem neuen eröffnen. Für ev. ergänzende Informationen zur Herkunft, sehen Sie bitte das Ursprugsthema ein. Anumodana!

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Another of this people who are not dear to encourage you to kill
Karma Yeshe Rabgye


What a face... who would not love to have his assassination and Bodhisattva, mixed with much secular wrong views, as his friend and guide and adviser...

Is Buddhism Against Euthanasia?





It should stem from our own experiences and understanding of the world. It should not be an act of sympathy, but should be emphatic. If it is carried out in this way, it is coming from wisdom.

Of course life is precious, but... ...If your loved one was lying in excruciating pain with a terminal illness, what do you think is the compassionate and wise thing to do?...

...euthanasia and not the legal... [but I, Karma Yeshe Rabgye, will give you a way anyhow, in the name of Buddha, as a compassion-ed Boddhisattva... ]...

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Is Buddhism Against Euthanasia?

Euthanasia, taken from a Greek word meaning a good death, refers to the practice of intentionally ending a life to relieve pain and suffering. There are two different types of euthanasia, namely voluntary and involuntary. Voluntary euthanasia is when death is hastened with the consent of the dying person, and involuntary is when no consent is possible because the dying person is brain dead or in a long term coma. It can be further divided into active and passive euthanasia. Active is when something is done to end life, such as a lethal injection, and passive is when treatment is withdrawn and nature is left to take its course. Laws on euthanasia are different from country to country, so here I am only looking at the moral implications of euthanasia and not the legal.
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Buddhism places great emphasise on not killing living beings, in fact, it is the first of the five precepts. So at first glance you would think euthanasia is wrong within Buddhism. However, it has to be noted that the precepts are not hard and fast rules, and were giving as training rules and not commandments. Also in Buddhism great emphasis is giving to Compassion. So if someone is dying in terrible agony, wouldn’t it be an act of compassion to hasten their death, with their consent or after consulting a doctor?

As with all contentious issues, there are countless different view points. Here I have selected three that I feel give a good cross section of opinions from within the Buddhist community. Firstly, Dalai Lama stated that all life is precious and so it is better to avoid euthanasia. However, he further stated that there are exceptional cases and so each case should be judged on an individual basis. This seems to leave room for euthanasia in certain circumstances.

Secondly, Thanssaro Bhikkhu, a Buddhist monk and scholar, stated that Gautama Buddha did not try and ease the patient’s transition to death, but concentrated on insight into suffering and its end. So, from Gautama Buddha’s perspective, encouraging a sick person to relax their grip on life or to give up the will to live would not count as an act of compassion. It seems Thanssaro Bhikkhu believes it is more compassionate to watch a loved one die in agony.

Thirdly, Lama Zopa Rinpoche stated he was more concerned with the outcome of the person’s next life. He said that people think performing euthanasia is an act of compassion, but he believed it also has to be carried out with wisdom. If the person will have more peace and happiness in their next life, the act will be good, however it may mean the person is reborn in a lower realm and their suffering will be a million times worse.

He went on to say that if a person is going to stay in a coma for many years, rather than spending thousands of dollars keeping them alive, support should be withdrawn and the money used to purify their negative karma, which may cause them to suffer in future lives. This approach is fine if there is a next life, but I cannot honestly be sure of that fact, can you?

So in Buddhism it seems to boil down to these three factors; the precept of not killing, compassion and wisdom.

Gautama Buddha taught the precepts so we do not cause harm to ourselves and others. If we turn them into rules we run the risk of them becoming detached from human suffering. This in turn will lead us down the wrong path and could cause us to harm others in the name of Buddhism. Compassion should be educated and informed. It should stem from our own experiences and understanding of the world. It should not be an act of sympathy, but should be empathic. If it is carried out in this way, it is coming from wisdom.

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My own personal view is that euthanasia should be viewed on a case by case basis. It has to be a three way decision, if possible, between the patient, the family and the medical team. If the patient is not able to be involved, then the other two parties have to do what they believe is correct and kind. Of course life is precious, but if someone has totally lost their quality of life and will never recover from their illness, it seems euthanasia is the kindest approach.

If your loved one was lying in excruciating pain with a terminal illness, what do you think is the compassionate and wise thing to do? Should you let them suffer in this life, hoping that their next life will be better, or should you relieve them of their agony in the here and now? These are not easy questions to answer and I pray that I never have to, but if I do, I hope I would act out of compassion and not hide behind ancient texts or what someone thought Gautama Buddha said or didn’t say.

If you find yourself in this awful situation at the moment, my heart goes out to you and I hope you are able to find some inner strength.

As this is such a personal issue, I believe we should talk about it to our relatives and loved ones. This way they will know your opinion should anything happen.

This article was first posted in March 2014.

Quote from: Johann, March 8, 2016 at 4:44 pm (moderated)
To kill, order to kill, or appreciate with it of ones mother and father is even a cardinal kamma, and a 100% push into hell deed. Its more then just a little misguiding what some people, suggest others to do in the name of Buddha, with there foolishness they call compassion.

Even to simply agree with is pretty much bad kamma, and taken that some would act on it, then this transgression in even fulfilled. So Atma would say, Mr. compassion has now a lot to do, bury the pitfalls he had spread out.

No need to comment on giving people the advice to better trust their defilement and but Buddha and his teachings aside.

There is really no compassion needed for a fool like that. For it would not help him either, appreciating people to even kill their father and mother.

Actually such direct hinting to kill are even a matter of the for a public prosecutor if such foolish misguiding people would not have poisoned their nations already so much, that nobody cares with what evil teachings they push people into long time suffering.

Not to speak of that such people have really nothing to do with Buddha and his teachings, they are even generally dangers for society and their sects can righteously called simply criminal, not to speak about their kamma and where people end up associating with them.
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Just to let you know how less they do no care about Buddha, ethics but also not about law: "Euthanasia is illegal in the United Kingdom."

And when Atman says about "depends of how much those Mohayanas have already poisoned their country", one does not need to wonder, why the sentences of his article are 100% identical of word from a political campaign...

Euthanasia comes from Greek, meaning 'pleasant death'. It typically refers to the killing of a person for their own (or another) good, usually to end their suffering...


One could only hope for such countries like UK that Christians will keep have some moral power, because that what is growing in those modern countries has nothing to do with Buddhas teachings and Atma would doubt if it would have something to do with any religion aside of people who like to have effects without giving a righteous cause but simply by claiming for stilling their own desires.

Should any bhikkhu intentionally deprive a human being of life, or search for an assassin for him, or praise the advantages of death, or incite him to die (saying): "My good man, what use is this evil, miserable life to you? Death would be better for you than life," or with such an idea in mind, such a purpose in mind, should in various ways praise the advantages of death or incite him to die, he also is defeated and no longer in affiliation.

That is why this secular Buddhist do not like to see Bhikkhus as there ethics guidance, since they do not give much on ethic. As from a Dhammic view, this sentences counts for everyone. Regard such people to be not affiliated with Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha.
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Leading Australian (Monks) approve killing
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2016, 02:10:18 PM »

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Ein oder mehrer Beiträge wurden hier im Thema abgeschnitten und damit in neues Thema "Leading Australian (Monks) approve killing " eröffnet. Bitte scheuen Sie nicht davor zurück, etwaigen Rat oder Kritik dazu mitzuteilen.  Viel Freude und Inspiration auch im neuen Thema. Anumodana!

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