sut.ku.paṭi. Bhūmi by Sārīputto. (mistakes of board's pāli names)

[Vorapol]

I trying to tell admin about mistakes of board's pāli names.

18. bhūminānattañāṇaniddeso
[72] kathaṃ catudhammavavatthāne paññā bhūminānatte ñāṇaṃ?
catasso bhūmiyo – kāmāvacarā bhūmi, rūpāvacarā bhūmi, arūpāvacarā bhūmi, apariyāpannā bhūmiฯ
katamā kāmāvacarā bhūmi? heṭṭhato avīcinirayaṃ pariyantaṃ karitvā uparito paranimmitavasavattī deve [paranimmitavasavattideve (ka.)] antokaritvā yaṃ etasmiṃ antare etthāvacarā ettha pariyāpannā khandhadhātuāyatanā rūpaṃ vedanā saññā saṅkhārā viññāṇaṃ – ayaṃ kāmāvacarā bhūmiฯ
katamā rūpāvacarā bhūmi? heṭṭhato brahmalokaṃ pariyantaṃ karitvā uparito akaniṭṭhe deve antokaritvā yaṃ etasmiṃ antare etthāvacarā ettha pariyāpannā samāpannassa vā upapannassa vā diṭṭhadhammasukhavihārissa vā cittacetasikā dhammā – ayaṃ rūpāvacarā bhūmiฯ
katamā arūpāvacarā bhūmi? heṭṭhato ākāsānañcāyatanūpage deve pariyantaṃ karitvā uparito nevasaññānāsaññāyatanūpage deve antokaritvā yaṃ etasmiṃ antare etthāvacarā ettha pariyāpannā samāpannassa vā upapannassa vā diṭṭhadhammasukhavihārissa vā cittacetasikā dhammā – ayaṃ arūpāvacarā bhūmiฯ
katamā apariyāpannā bhūmi? apariyāpannā maggā ca maggaphalāni ca asaṅkhatā ca dhātu – ayaṃ apariyāpannā bhūmiฯ imā catasso bhūmiyoฯ
parāpi catasso bhūmiyo cattāro satipaṭṭhānā cattāro sammappadhānā, cattāro iddhipādā, cattāri jhānāni, catasso appamaññāyo, catasso arūpasamāpattiyo, catasso paṭisambhidā, catasso paṭipadā, cattāri ārammaṇāni, cattāro ariyavaṃsā, cattāri saṅgahavatthūni , cattāri cakkāni, cattāri dhammapadāni – imā catasso bhūmiyoฯ
taṃ ñātaṭṭhena ñāṇaṃ, pajānanaṭṭhena paññāฯ tena vuccati – ‘‘catudhammavavatthāne paññā bhūminānatte ñāṇaṃ’’ฯ
bhūminānattañāṇaniddeso aṭṭhārasamoฯ

[Dhammañāṇa]

Sadhu,

* Johann unconfortable Atma does not get the messege. How would Upasaka theY (Vanabo... forgot...) explain it to somebody how does not know what you are exactly talking about and is no pali expert? Would thee be a reference, or a translation, it would be posdible to investigate what you shortcuts try to transport, even you do not understand your thought, yet taking them for real, sannja, sankara, now others should read your mind?

So it seems that Upasaka found out that it is a mix out of brumis dwellings (worlds, counciousnesses like kitchen which is like which bumi? (D
Bum is the khmer word for village, as a side hint) and simple names of simply conventions, like monks dwellings.[/len]

[Vorapol]

You are a monk, so you should have learned pali to be nissayamuccaka (if you don't having  nissayācāro). Is it right? So why you ask me for a translation?

Translation:

What is  kāmāvacarā bhūmi(kāma-loko)? It is everthing that being between  avīcinirayo and above bhūmī to paranimmitavasavattīdevo and below bhūmī (=apāyā 4, manusso 1, devā 6) . Such as khandā, dhātū, and āyatanāni: rūpaṃ vedanā saññā saṅkhārā viññāṇaṃ being there, this is  kāmāvacarā bhūmi.

katamā kāmāvacarā bhūmi? heṭṭhato avīcinirayaṃ pariyantaṃ karitvā uparito paranimmitavasavattī deve [paranimmitavasavattideve (ka.)] antokaritvā (=apāyā 4, manusso 1, devā 6) yaṃ etasmiṃ antare etthāvacarā ettha pariyāpannā khandhadhātuāyatanā rūpaṃ vedanā saññā saṅkhārā viññāṇaṃ – ayaṃ kāmāvacarā bhūmiฯ

Translation:

What is  rūpāvacarā bhūmi(rūpa-loko)?  It is everthing that being between  brahmaloko and above bhūmī to akaniṭṭhādevo and below bhūmī (rūpabrahmā 16) . Such as cittacetasikā dhammā, in there, of person(except arahaṃ) who doing rūpajhānaṃ, person (except arahaṃ) who have birthed (in this bhūmi), or person (just arahaṃ) who doing diṭṭhadhammasukhavihāra-rūpajhānaṃ, this is  rūpāvacarā bhūmi.

katamā rūpāvacarā bhūmi? heṭṭhato brahmalokaṃ pariyantaṃ karitvā uparito akaniṭṭhe deve antokaritvā yaṃ etasmiṃ antare etthāvacarā ettha pariyāpannā samāpannassa vā upapannassa vā diṭṭhadhammasukhavihārissa vā cittacetasikā dhammā – ayaṃ rūpāvacarā bhūmiฯ

Translation:

What is  arūpāvacarā bhūmi(arūpa-loko)?  It is everthing that being between  ākāsānañcāyatanūpagā devā and above bhūmī to nevasaññānāsaññāyatanūpagadevā and below bhūmī (arūpabrahmā 4) . Such as cittacetasikā dhammā, in there, of person(except arahaṃ) who doing arūpajhānaṃ, person (except arahaṃ) who have birthed (in this bhūmi), or person (just arahaṃ) who doing diṭṭhadhammasukhavihāra-arūpajhānaṃ, this is  arūpāvacarā bhūmi.

katamā arūpāvacarā bhūmi? heṭṭhato ākāsānañcāyatanūpage deve pariyantaṃ karitvā uparito nevasaññānāsaññāyatanūpage deve antokaritvā yaṃ etasmiṃ antare etthāvacarā ettha pariyāpannā samāpannassa vā upapannassa vā diṭṭhadhammasukhavihārissa vā cittacetasikā dhammā – ayaṃ arūpāvacarā bhūmiฯ

supramundane path:

katamā apariyāpannā bhūmi? apariyāpannā maggā ca maggaphalāni ca asaṅkhatā ca dhātu – ayaṃ apariyāpannā bhūmiฯ imā catasso bhūmiyoฯ

source: www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sltp/Patis_I_utf8.html
For more explanation: sangaha lesson 5

[Dhammañāṇa]

Sadhu, good Upasakas shares in Pali teaching. Neverteless, its good (actually also a matter of law, not only from kusala aspects, to share always links and check ev copy restrictions). Nevertheless, Atma can not see a concret connection of what the problem is? Let me ask Upasaka, in which realm he curently dwells?

* Johann in addition: Thanks for your critic, Atma finds it more then worthy a topic on propper place. If Upasaka is a little attentive and can leave gecko samadhi, he might see that all are very busy in fixing certain "problem"s here, so please feel free to practice patient and metta or try to help there meanwhile

[Vorapol]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/e/2PACX-1vR5qzeYrfa82CWhSLlG2HuKLWaN-aNa4ixScdbWs8LfAqk1Pi8GCrhD2FQsqaGqSkPOQi1pWPE0f7tN/pub?w=1440&h=1080

[Dhammañāṇa]

 Allthought there is still no consistent explaining, just one pice after another, Atma will try to read your mind in times, sadhu for increasing patient.

* Johann in addition: Its good not to use google and third part power, you are coming in depts of maybe people who will come one day and ask for pay back and its not practicing for your liberation but the opposite they will demand. You are "free", in any case personal invited to use every possibility here, attach it, if it is yous and not already owned and regulated by google. Let Atma cook some water so that he has something to drink, a short break and some other importand communications in regard of Visum of a practicing monk.and dwelling

Good, Atma reads that Upasaka theY argures, that down on erth is limited to humans. No, we invite and they are invitet as well, the Devas. Kamaloka is the place of Dhammahearing and understanding.
Atma reads further, that the struckture of the forum in regard of realms is not as consistent as a table, yes. Can never be and the Realmstuff is just a further hint into satipatana, being aware of mind personally and not meant as a table teaching of what can also not be found in the Buddhas teachings, to much danger that people take it for real.

[Vorapol]

You should not be theravada buddhist. Because theravada monks will not change/cut anything off tipitaka. But you doing it.


--- อ้างจาก: AN 3.70 ---"Fifty human years are equal to one day & night among the Devas of the Four Great Kings. Thirty such days & nights make a month. Twelve such months make a year. Five hundred such heavenly years constitute the life-span among the Devas of the Four Great Kings. Now, it is possible that a certain man or woman — from having observed this Uposatha endowed with eight factors — on the break-up of the body, after death, might be reborn among the Devas of the Four Great Kings. It was in reference to this that it was said, 'Kingship over human beings is a meager thing when compared with heavenly bliss.'

"A human century is equal to one day & night among the Devas of the Thirty-Three. Thirty such days & nights make a month... One thousand such heavenly years constitute the life-span among the Devas of the Thirty-three. Now, it is possible that a certain man or woman — from having observed this Uposatha endowed with eight factors — on the break-up of the body, after death, might be reborn among the Devas of the Thirty-three. It was in reference to this that it was said, 'Kingship over human beings is a meager thing when compared with heavenly bliss.'

"Two human centuries are equal to one day & night among the Yama Devas... Two thousand such heavenly years constitute the life-span among the Yama Devas...

"Four human centuries are equal to one day & night among the Contented Devas... Four thousand such heavenly years constitute the life-span among the Contented Devas...

"Eight human centuries is equal to one day & night among the devas who delight in creation... Eight thousand such heavenly years constitute the life-span among the devas who delight in creation...

"Sixteen human centuries are equal to one day & night among the devas who have power over the creations of others. Thirty such days & nights make a month. Twelve such months make a year. Sixteen thousand such heavenly years constitute the life-span among the devas who have power over the creations of others. Now, it is possible that a certain man or woman — from having observed this Uposatha endowed with eight factors — on the break-up of the body, after death, might be reborn among the devas who have power over the creations of others. It was in reference to this that it was said, 'Kingship over human beings is a meager thing when compared with heavenly bliss.'"
--- End quote ---

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an03/an03.070.than.html

[Vorapol]

People can misrepresent the text up to their minds, but the truth still be the truth.

[Dhammañāṇa]

* Johann So now Atma should even not be a monk  Actually no problem, how ever you like to create him for your well being.

Ok, once again on wrong view, be careful, theY , be carefull, knowing th consequences. "This is mine, should be mine...kill him he is otherwise..."

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

And what is wrong view? 'There is nothing given, nothing offered, nothing sacrificed. There is no fruit or result of good or bad actions. There is no this world, no next world, no mother, no father, no spontaneously reborn beings; no brahmans or contemplatives who, faring rightly & practicing rightly, proclaim this world & the next after having directly known & realized it for themselves.' This is wrong view.

Quote from: http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/tipitaka/mn/mn.117.than_en.html

Try to stay ob topic and explain your topic not just with letting people gues an throwing bites into the ocean. That Upasaka understand s the funktion better, lets make journey with the topic where it now belongs, its not eternal, off course.

Upasaks theY has also got the Deva&Asura membership, so that he can dwell here, no layout jet, hot and red. Only Aramika, and Guest can see this here, and the Devas and Asuras.

Go on eith you movie and let it be known when it is cut, Upasaka. Here one has a long life span ss well.

[Vorapol]

You is a zenist. You are not theravada buddhist. You cut  some parts of tipitaka up to your mind.

It is not a theravada concept.

[Vorapol]

tipitaka.sutta.org/canon/vinaya/cūḷavagga/pañcasatikakkhandhakaṃ

suṇātu me, āvuso, saṅghoฯ santamhākaṃ sikkhāpadāni gihigatāniฯ gihinopi jānanti – idaṃ vo samaṇānaṃ sakyaputtiyānaṃ kappati, idaṃ vo na kappatītiฯ sace mayaṃ khuddānukhuddakāni sikkhāpadāni samūhanissāma, bhavissanti vattāro – dhūmakālikaṃ samaṇena gotamena sāvakānaṃ sikkhāpadaṃ paññattaṃ ฯ yāvimesaṃ satthā aṭṭhāsi tāvime sikkhāpadesu sikkhiṃsuฯ yato imesaṃ satthā parinibbuto, na dānime sikkhāpadesu sikkhantītiฯ saṅgho appaññattaṃ nappaññapeti, paññattaṃ na samucchindati, yathāpaññattesu sikkhāpadesu samādāya vattatiฯ yassāyasmato khamati appaññattassa appaññāpanā, paññattassa asamucchedo, yathāpaññattesu sikkhāpadesu samādāya vattanā, so tuṇhassa; yassa nakkhamati, so bhāseyyaฯ
saṅgho appaññattaṃ nappaññapeti, paññattaṃ na samucchindati, yathāpaññattesu sikkhāpadesu samādāya vattatiฯ khamati saṅghassa, tasmā tuṇhī, evametaṃ dhārayāmītiฯ

[Dhammañāṇa]

* Johann : Nobody can help you once fallenin this state here, just carry out old kamma, once you may find a rebirth in kamaloka, dont forget simply to practice if you come across thr teachings.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Ashamed of what's not shameful,
not ashamed of what is,
beings adopting wrong views
go to a bad destination.

Seeing danger where there is none,
& no danger where there is,
beings adopting wrong views
go to a bad destination.

Imagining error where there is none,
and seeing no error where there is,
beings adopting wrong views
go to a bad destination.

But knowing error as error,
and non-error as non-,
beings adopting right views
   go to a good
   destination.

Quote from: http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/tipitaka/kn/dhp/dhp.22.than_en.html