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You are a monk, you should know Pali (Bhante Johann)
« on: December 04, 2016, 05:52:52 AM »
You are a monk, so you should have learned pali to be nissayamuccaka (if you don't having  nissayācāro). Is it right? So why you ask me for a translation?

Concret, the forum is for more than those who just communicate and questions are often raised for general interest, how ever, having seen only some words of the text Atma wrote some word here attached in the night, Upasaka theY . Let it be known if this stills Upasakas astonishment.
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Antw:You are a monk, you should know Pali (Bhante Johann)
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2017, 06:41:10 AM »
So it looks like you hard this trouble in your thoughts longer as you bolg reflects, Vorapol .
There you quote a reference from the commentary, of course in Pali. Tipitaka memorization is a rule of monks. It isn't just a choice. They must done it. . (Not sure if Vipassana Institute is happy to copy the texts and publish, good if ask them, that also makes no toubles with remorse and Silas, just a side hint out of thought for welfare of yours)

Since Vorabol is a rich person and Atma just a begger, may be he likes to share some of his possession and provide a translation, maybe also from some one else, so one could be more sure that is correct and maybe he likes to share also the source of origin for this comment as well (guess it is in Mahavagga). Since we know that the Tipitaka is not all of Buddhas origin, we know that he even ordinated "crazy" people and beggars, and never rebuked someone who might not speak his language or was not able to recitate all of his words (how even could they? Non of them knew all his saying and they had no blogs and internet).

Its rather the tradition of the Veda citing sect who have survived till here wearing robs and reciting not understandable texts for their lifelihood yet full of defilements, anger, greed and delusion, making people belive that they are real follower of the Buddhas path.

Not to speak that such as the Tipitaka did not exist for many hundred years after the Buddha.

It should be not missunderstood as not deeply respecting this heritage and collection but as we know Buddha leaded to an aim and when we remember the Heartwood simile, is neither good to be proud on ones Sila, knowledge, concentration and even Wisdom, since the heart is liberation and simply remember words, how many it might be, does not even lead to the possesdion of sila not to speak of wisdom.

For most (the fool) knowledge, as the Buddha told, runs out to simply distroy ones goodness. As Atma always wonder, how could people knowing so much of the Buddha still life like not knowing at all, engage in misconduct seek pleasure and have not a little tendecy to let go and renounce.
Its more the communist ideology Atma guesses, a thought that if all cite the same words the world would be a better place. Remember the tendence of very millitant religious groups where children would be pressed to learn to recite the holy book.

How ever, Atma is still very open to be taught and looks forward to see some use able recources. Altought he needs to say that he nevertheless desires possession in the sphere on saññā khandho since he knows well the burden and the dangers, mostly in areas of extream pride and conceit. Does not mean that he can not feel muditā for someone of much possesion of it but mostly it more deep karuṇā that comes up.

Like with material reach people, mostly the only way to help them is to give them more but sometimes they can really get angry when a begger reaches out his hand willing to give the millionary. They would not like to see that all they have is actally nothing and feel terrible angry being disturbed in there conceit and pride. Ohh, Atma saw a topic in this relation. Maybe usefull, but only for people understandable who have learned Pali and memorice the Tipitaka (so the author said): Let's See: How It Hard To Let People Get In "Self" Word Of Diṭṭhi And Māna

By the way a nice blog and some good posts which are seldom found in western language. How ever, it would be good to overcome burden and laziness and do more translating since commenting gives much rise to pride and to say its much work, just believe me is rooted in greed and forces pride stay dominant.

(Just some words in the notion of Ven. Maha Kassapa mostly ver dusturbing for Sariputtas dicipel and those on Ven Ananda. To much of Vipassana and practice, reniunciation and metta in it.)
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