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« Reply #45 on: April 18, 2017, 09:36:11 PM »
Namassakara Bhante, Jomreapsour Moritz

I've tried to send both of you (include U. Sophorn) vol. 43 three time already, but it seems no success.
This is the information from my last sending..
This is the mail system at host loki.bi.teuto.net.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

                   The mail system

<johann.brucker@sangham.net>: host mail.sangham.net[212.8.206.150] said: 451
    4.5.1 Mailbox full (in reply to end of DATA command)

<moritz@sangham.net>: host mail.sangham.net[212.8.206.150] said: 451 4.5.1
    Mailbox full (in reply to end of DATA command)



Reporting-MTA: dns; loki.bi.teuto.net
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: EEA62562FF0
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; norum@sangham.net
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Final-Recipient: rfc822; johann.brucker@sangham.net
Action: failed
Status: 4.5.1
Remote-MTA: dns; mail.sangham.net
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 451 4.5.1 Mailbox full

Final-Recipient: rfc822; moritz@sangham.net
Action: failed
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To: Johann brucker <johann.brucker@sangham.net>, Moritz  <moritz@sangham.net>, sangahaksv@gmail.com
Subject: Khmer Tipitaka vol. 043 (3rd time)
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Since U.Sophorn wasn't mentioned, I guess she got these files. So please, U. Sophorn, forward those files to Bhante and /or Moritz or upload in the Forum, thanks.
 _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

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« Reply #46 on: April 19, 2017, 01:00:18 AM »
Thanks for information to have send it to Moritz , Sophorn and my person, Norum.

Sadhu! Had the feeling that you might have done it. Althought Atma thought that both might be maybe to busy, its good to know that their seems to be a email problem.

Norum should be able to simply attach it to a post, like she makes it with screen shots.

Hope she had a good enter into the New Year with good resolves.

(The mailboxes, both, should have each about 30MB left, maybe useful to contact the provider in this regard.
Anyway Nyom Moritz, you may increase you mailbox size to 100 or 200MB to possible avoid such in future.)
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« Reply #47 on: April 19, 2017, 02:40:27 AM »
 _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Tchumreapsur Upasika Norum,
Rik riey tschnam thmey!

I have checked several times but didn't receive any e-mail from you. When did you send it?

As for Bhante's idea, I think it makes sense to extend the domain so you can work easier. What do you think? Just let me know so I can discuss with Bhante.

Oh, and please be so kind to tag my name, otherwise it could take a longer while to come across your message. Thank you.

All the best wishes to you.

U. Sophorn

 _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

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« Reply #48 on: April 19, 2017, 04:42:25 AM »
Namasakara Bhante,
chom reap sour Sophorn and Norum,

_/\_

thank you for informing.
If the files were too big for the mailbox, it must have been very big (more than ten times bigger than the previous Tipitaka files). I have changed the size for my email address now to have more space.

If it was sent to Sophorn as well, and it has not arrived, that is very strange, since there was no error and also Sophorn's mailbox is set to unlimited size.

Sophorn, have you checked your sangham.net email address? sophorn.ban @ ... ? I know now three email addresses for you, and I also have too many. Sometimes I get confused and check the wrong one as well.  :-|

How big was the file Norum ?
You cold also send me to ... @ web.de (I have sent you and all an email earlier also from that address in answer to Bhante Johann's email test).

As for Bhante's idea, I think it makes sense to extend the domain so you can work easier. What do you think? Just let me know so I can discuss with Bhante.

So far what Bhante suggested was only for me to extend the size of mail email inbox (we can set the size limit for each account manually), which I should have done maybe much earlier. Now I have already done that.

Otherwise there seems to be still enough space, and always far below the traffick limits, so it seems to me there should be no need to update any packages at the moment. (There are sometimes more frequent server outages. But this would not be solved with upgrading to bigger server packages I think, but seems to be a general problem with Greensta. [I have heard similar about greensta from other places as well.] I think, however, that is tolerable, and maybe one has to accept such for the sake of "green energy". ^-^)

All the best wishes to all you from me as well.

_/\_


Edit (one afterthought): Norum, it seems you have not been able to solve the server problems with Joomla on the http://chhouk-krohom.de yet?
Maybe I would suggest a totally different solution, with which I could possibly help when I have time, if you think that would be a good idea, and using a different system (OctoberCMS) that I have some experience with, and is more modern and I think also much better and easier to manage than Joomla. It would require of course rebuilding almost everything probably, and all the website design etc. again from new.
Let me know if you think that is a good idea, and I would be happy to help with it, if it is something that could be done more slowly and with time.

_/\_
« Last Edit: April 19, 2017, 05:02:32 AM by Moritz »

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« Reply #49 on: April 19, 2017, 07:05:13 AM »
Sadhu for your care of each other.

Even it is strange and no reason can be seen, Atma sometimes also gets not delivered messages when sending something. Atma merely has the feeling tttt the email-software the provider uses for his costumer is actually a "very" old system, loki.bi.teuto.net (? No idea)

Just a thought. Maybe, Atma had pointed out such before here and there, it is a good moment to maybe seek for a possibility to run such as an own (for ttt Sangha) email server and also provide a portal for Bhikjus, monastics and ascetic lay people to take and create own emailaccounts with possible all accesses for changes. Something like those Business-email giver like hotmail or what ever but simply based on generosity and dedicated for the Sangha and devoted followers in need to be able to take consciously invited. email.sangham.net .
Its maybe good to ask the provider more intensively about possible problem here and about possibilities for such an emailaccountproviding.

And Atma gives all of you again the advice conductive for independency to better make "depts" torward that or those walking in the direction liberation rather to increase depts torward people and institutions with strong wrong view and bound strongly to the world. While the secound makes their gain by giving you the feeling of having a "no need to repay credit" the first is just gained by making the work first. That is why one would always be able to walk on in this case. The more upanissayapaccaya (strong dependency condition) one gives into the right direction, remember meeting places, food, people and clima requires such, the more you bind you self to the three Gems, the more you are able to meet and stay in contact, even it might happen that no path or fruit might be gained.
Its of cause easy to follow and be attracted by the more easier seeming ways of the world. Its up to your investigation of what might bring you long therm benefit and what just fits to you mood and unwillingness of sacrify, looking just for fruits.

Its btw. very impressive a real good sample of which Nyom Norum shows. At first she looks for the needs of the Sangha, dedicates her work for those giving a sign of being in front and has merely taken aside her "my Tipitaka page" something only very very less are able, very very less devote their deed really for the Gems. In that way she is a real good sample for many. Think about all the many Buddhist Websites. Even monks provide dhamma for their material and inmaterial gains in the world.

The heritage of the Buddha could only grow if many follow the devoted and sacrify paved way of people seldom appear in this world.

Since it seems to be a main working place for Norum, Atma likes to give Nyom a little bit older talk on forgivingness: Verdrängen ist nicht Verzeihen

Mudita with the merits of each of you here!

(You see Nyom Norum, actually they are all here, would not run away and forget their promises and duties, but sometimes we all might have unskillfull things as ārammaṇa and are to busy with the world and gaining but for special people at least there is no way to really fall appart. Please don't be to much behind the stage and there is nothing wrong, never, to be afraid of being to active in regard of puñña. When we start to play the "I am nothing game, our "forgiving" which is mostly just supressing may lead us different kinds of popping up of a mass of unskillful. So its always good to speak out things when they are current. Things do not work out on their own and just by waiting. So no need to be to much rücksichtvoll.)
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« Reply #50 on: April 19, 2017, 09:08:51 PM »
Nice to see you all here :)

Norom dont have time to reply now, i will come again later  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

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« Reply #51 on: April 22, 2017, 10:19:16 AM »
Nicht des Erlangens wegen, Nyom Norum , Sophorn , Moritz und alle anderen, sondern zum Anhalten an der Ausübung, möchte Atma hier an die Ausübung erinnern und ihnen allen empfehlen weniger modern und mehr khmer (khema) zu sein.

Und was ist modern? Fordern ist modern. Erwarten ist modern. Sich auf andere berufen ist modern. Seine Meinung halten ist modern. Rechte zu halten und zu haben ist modern. Sich wichtig nehmen ist modern. Zu glauben jemand zu sein ist modern. Zu glauben wichtig zu sein ist modern. Ungeduldig ist modern. Verzagen ist modern.

Und was ist khmer? Hingeben ist khmer. Geben ist khmer. Immer wieder selbst tun ist khmer. Verzeihen ist khmer. Vorrecht geben und lassen ist khmer. Sich nicht wichtig nehmen ist khmer. Zu wissen nicht lange da zu sein ist khmer. Sich nicht wichtig nehmen ist khmer. Geduldig sein ist khmer. Durchhaltend zu sein ist khmer.

Wissend wie selten Dinge zusammen treffen, ergreift, nährt, versorgt und hält ein Khmer an kleinen und großn Unternehmungen fest und ermutigt so lange er auch nur kann alle die er immer wieder ermutigen kann, an eben genau dieser Ausübung teilzunehmen.

Den wenn er eines selbst schon gelernt hat, dabei bleiben und nicht ins moderne abrutschen ist nicht leicht. Und von wem hat er all diese Güte und Dankbarkeit gelernt? Von seinen Eltern, die immer wieder ihn aus dem modernen ins khema sein hochgezogen haben. Und für wen machten seine Eltern all das? Weil sie sich an die Güte der Eltern, der Götter, des Buddhas erinnerten und sich selber in allen anderen wiedererkennen.

Moderne Menschen unterscheiden sich von Khema dadurch, daß sie nicht nach Schuld suchen, sondern wenn sie anstehen einfach nach einem alternativen Weg. Ihre Fährten sind noch nicht so festgefahren, betoniert und zu Autobahnenausgebaut. Üben sie sich im Off-road fahren und gehen, in der Wildnis, im Wald, im Erziehen und erhalten von Einfallsreichtum, wird die Ausübung, der Pfad gefunden und begangen.
Sobald man aber auf die Autobahn zurückkehrt, den Waldpfad nicht mehr begeht, wächst er wieder zu und es ist wieder schwer sich zu überwinden ihn oft zu begehen sodaß er leicht begehbar bleibt.

Vielleicht sieht ja nun gerade jemand im Dickicht wieder den Pfad.

Bob der Baumeister hat dann Baggi und alle anderen immer gefragt: "Können wir das schaffen?" :)
« Last Edit: April 22, 2017, 10:31:25 AM by Johann »
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« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2017, 01:48:27 AM »
* Johann: Mudita.

Wenn immer man nicht ganz so gestreßt, was man später, wenn man es in Ruhe macht, gar nicht mehr warum es nicht so klappte.

Weil Post's abgeschnitten: Hier Norum zum Thema hier:

Chouk-krohom is not yet solved, we dont know how to do it now. OctoberCMS, I dont know about it and also dont know how to change. I cannot even log in Chouk-krohom administrator page. how bad!!!
My husband chose Joomla that time, because it was free. Is yours also free?  :-\ rebuild it, is not a big problem, i just need time.

 _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

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« Reply #53 on: April 26, 2017, 01:49:21 AM »

Aramika   *

Ein oder mehrer Beiträge wurden hier im Thema abgeschnitten und damit in neues Thema "[Guide] Step 1. Upload of doc-files - Status and tipps " eröffnet. Bitte scheuen Sie nicht davor zurück, etwaigen Rat oder Kritik dazu mitzuteilen.  Viel Freude und Inspiration auch im neuen Thema. Anumodana!

One or more posts have been cut out of this topic here. A new topic, based on it, has been created as "[Guide] Step 1. Upload of doc-files - Status and tipps " . Please do not hesitate to claim or give supporting hints.  Much joy and inspiration also in the new Topic. Anumodana!
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« Reply #54 on: April 30, 2017, 09:01:42 AM »
immer wieder das gleiche Problem
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« Reply #55 on: April 30, 2017, 09:31:54 AM »
Hmm... Atma hat gesehen, daß Nyom Norum mit der info@cch... adresse gesendet hatte.
Vielleicht mag Sie versuchen mit norum@sangham.net oder einer anderen Adresse zu senden. Könnte ja mit dem Domainproblem zusammenhängen.
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« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2017, 03:04:53 PM »
Yes Bhante,
I've tried and try again today via sangham.net.
I am not sure , if the problem from Chouk-krohom, but when i sent to other, it worked.
Let's see this time, if it works. Otherwise, i will send all of you in common post.
 _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

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« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2017, 03:32:23 PM »
Nyom Norum,

Atma lead a long correspondenc with the provider of sangham.net and they could not find a reasonable answer but told that the mailboxes must have been full but the admin panel showed plenty of rest and Nyom Sophorn has limitless space... anyhow, they seems to have given up the case of Atmas questions.

No problem to receive other email till now and before anyhow but will still seach and it was good that Nyom Norum mentioned it.

Its good and actually better to do the share here, since all share same information at least and direct given makes propably more joy.

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« Reply #58 on: May 08, 2017, 01:24:19 PM »
* Johann to inform: The email problem to send to my adress was because the box was full althought the server-admin-panell showed consequently about 20% left (that is generall importand to know when looking after needs of others in regard of space). Atma did not inform the provider again about that since the people showed not much interest in investigating in this software "bug" further. In regard of emails to Nyom Sophorn, Atma can remember that she once asked to send her the email to her sangham adress rather to her gmail one. But like many others as well, people are "sometimes" just to busy with "own" things.
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« Reply #59 on: June 18, 2017, 12:24:46 PM »
Nice to see that the website works again, Nyom Norum . Mudita.
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Sophorn

January 20, 2018, 04:03:38 PM
 :-* :-* :-*
Mögen alle Lebewesen frei von Leid sein!
Mögen alle guten Wünsche vielfach zu den Wünschern zurückkommen.
 :-* :-* :-*
 

Moritz

January 20, 2018, 01:29:11 AM
_/\_
 

Johann

January 19, 2018, 11:14:34 AM
Sokh chomreoun, Nyom (, verspätet, Zeile meist eingeklappt, wohl ein Browser - cookie Fehler)
 

Moritz

January 19, 2018, 05:35:24 AM
_/\_ Namasakara, Bhante
_/\_
 

Johann

January 18, 2018, 05:06:38 AM
..wäre es nicht passend "Gestehen" anzunehmen, selbes Ups habend. Jedoch ist es in dem Fall ja noch gut gegangen und daher Grund für gemeinsames "gerade noch" und Mudita. Gut das gewisse Verbindungen und Wahrnehmen nicht abreißt (reißen kann) und absehbar passiert.
 

Johann

January 18, 2018, 05:02:41 AM
Atma war, aus irgend einem Grund, fest überzeugt, das gestern Uposatha sein sollte, trotzdem er am Almosengang gar Laien in Wat ziehen sah (denkend, gut auch heute an punna teilzunehmen). Selbigem Thema gegegnend, sah Atma nach und mußte feststellen, das bereits der 16. war. So zu diesem Ausmaß (
 

Moritz

January 17, 2018, 10:36:54 PM
 

Johann

January 17, 2018, 01:08:49 PM
Und gestern? Übersehen, oder verdienstvoll?
 

Sophorn

January 09, 2018, 07:48:37 AM
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sadhu. anumodana.
 :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

January 09, 2018, 01:51:15 AM
Sadhu! Anumodana!
 

Marcel

January 09, 2018, 01:39:30 AM
 :-*allen ein verdienstvollen uposatha :-*
 

Johann

January 03, 2018, 11:42:34 AM
ធម្មតា ញោម។ Dhammatā, Ñoma.
 

Marcel

January 03, 2018, 10:39:23 AM
 :-* បាទ :-*  អរគុណ :-*  ខ្ញុំសុខសបាយជាទទអរគុណ  :-* ehrwürdiger bhante, ja mir geht es gut! ich hab mich er-holt!  wie geht es ihnen?  :-*
 

Johann

January 03, 2018, 10:30:20 AM
Marcel. Er- oder besser vielleicht Entholt und Verdaut?
 

Marcel

January 03, 2018, 10:24:49 AM
 :-* :-* :-*
 

Chanroth

January 02, 2018, 04:59:02 AM
សាធុសាធុ :-*
 

Johann

January 01, 2018, 02:05:59 PM
Sokh chomreuon, Nyom.
 

Chanroth

January 01, 2018, 12:36:03 PM
 :-* :-* :-*Karuna tvay bongkum
 

Johann

January 01, 2018, 12:42:33 AM
Einen freidvollen und erkenntnisreichen Vollmond Uposatha, am ersten Tag des Jahres.
 

Johann

December 31, 2017, 05:59:48 PM
Also hier spricht man nun schon von Wiedergeburt 2018.
 

Maria

December 30, 2017, 10:19:57 AM
Danke, wird weitergegeben und ebenfalls die besten Wünsche retour
 

Johann

December 30, 2017, 10:12:19 AM
Beste Wünsche und Grüße in den Kreis der Familien, Freunde und Lieben und möge man viel Zeit mit den Älteren, guten Gönnern und Weisen verbringen, sich nicht zu sehr Panalem hingeben.
 

Maria

December 30, 2017, 10:09:05 AM
Zeichen davor ist leider unpassend.
 

Maria

December 30, 2017, 10:05:41 AM
 :-*Werter Bhante
 

Johann

December 30, 2017, 10:04:46 AM
Njom Maria.
 

Johann

December 23, 2017, 01:56:19 PM
Funtioniert hier gut, Nyom Sophorn
 

Sophorn

December 23, 2017, 01:35:54 PM
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Karuna tvay bongkum
kana ist aufgefallen, dass die Bilder sich schlecht runterladen lassen. Hat das mit dem Server zu tun oder doch eine Störung hier in Ö? :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

December 23, 2017, 12:01:30 PM
មើលនិងចែករំលែកដោយខ្លួនអ្នកនៅពេលក្រោយ
http://sangham.net/index.php?topic=8304.new#new
 

Johann

December 23, 2017, 11:59:01 AM
បាន ណោម
 

Chanroth

December 23, 2017, 11:44:51 AM
 :-*តើព្រះតេជគុណបានទទួលEmailខ្ញុំកណាឬនៅ
 

Johann

December 23, 2017, 11:34:31 AM
ពិតប្រាកដបានបាត់ឬអត់? ហេតុអ្វីបានជាការកាន់និងការចិញ្ចឹម?

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