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2019 Jan 16 16:33:43
Cheav Villa: Things to read :D

2019 Jan 16 16:27:50
Cheav Villa: Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 16 15:28:02
Johann: The Story of Culekasataka (Maha Kassapa and his wife in former life)

2019 Jan 16 15:20:13
Johann: ថ្ងៃ ថ្មី មួូយ ជា ឳកាស ថ្មី មួយ ទៀត។ យើង មិន អាច ដឹង មុន នូវ អ្វី ដែល នឹង កើតឡើង ថ្ងៃ ស្អែក

2019 Jan 16 04:07:43
Khemakumara: Nyom Chanroth

2019 Jan 16 02:09:37
Chanroth: សាធុសាធុសាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 16 02:07:10
Johann: ថ្ងៃ ថ្មី មួូយ ជា ឳកាស ថ្មី មួយ ទៀត។ យើង មិន អាច ដឹង មុន នូវ អ្វី ដែល នឹង កើតឡើង ថ្ងៃ ស្អែក

2019 Jan 16 02:06:36
Chanroth: ជំរាបសួរ Moritz

2019 Jan 16 02:06:31
Johann: "Another day, another possibility. We don't know what tomorrow might be."

2019 Jan 15 19:41:08
Khemakumara: Nyom Moritz

2019 Jan 15 19:38:38
Moritz: Vandami Bhante (Khemakumara) _/\_

2019 Jan 15 17:13:16
Johann: Nyom Puthy, maybe this helps: ការរបៀបឆ្លេីយនៅក្នុង website .

2019 Jan 15 16:10:29
Ieng Puthy: ព្រះអង្គករុណាសូមថ្វាយបង្គំុលាសិនហេីយ 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

2019 Jan 15 16:07:58
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាគ្រាន់តែចូលអាន ករុណាមិនទាន់យល់ពីរបៀបឆ្លេីយនៅក្នុងwebsite នៅឡេីយទេ ព្រះអង្គ 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

2019 Jan 15 16:00:58
Johann: How ever one feels inspired, has joy, likes to give into.  How can I use the forum purposefully, for myself, as well as for others?

2019 Jan 15 15:57:55
Johann: No need to use all possibilities for merits for one alone but good to invite others to join and become more independend till free.

2019 Jan 15 15:04:39
Johann: no requirement to do all, merits step by step. "The path to nibbana is hard", they say, and don't do even little steps, Nyom. As inspired, its at least a working and concentration camp, Devas delight in creation, Devas having contr. over the creation of others.

2019 Jan 15 14:53:43
Cheav Villa: ព្រះអង្គការបកប្រែមកជាខ្មែរ  មានខុសច្រើនណាស់  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 15 14:49:16
Khemakumara: leng Puthy

2019 Jan 15 14:48:29
Khemakumara: Nyom leng Pitts

2019 Jan 15 14:45:35
Johann: There is a lot of new for many. If the Nyom Ladies like to help in translating here and there a little, it might be easier for khmer-speaking monks to get informed well.

2019 Jan 15 14:25:23
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ ព្រះអង្គ Bhante Khemakumara

2019 Jan 15 13:33:34
Khemakumara: Bhante Muni

2019 Jan 15 13:32:47
Khemakumara: Bhante Johann _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 15 13:27:53
Johann: Bhante Muni

2019 Jan 15 10:46:40
Johann: But a topic can be opened everywhere and can then be moved.

2019 Jan 15 10:45:27
Johann: There is also a Link to direct Requests for Teachings - link, so things get not lost.

2019 Jan 15 10:44:12
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាព្រះអង្គ🙏🏻អរព្រះគុុណ ព្រះអង្គ

2019 Jan 15 10:42:55
Johann: Good place is surely at  Dhammatalks - (dhamma desanā)

2019 Jan 15 10:35:06
Johann: Talkbox is not proper, just for greating and small-talk

2019 Jan 15 10:24:47
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ព្រះអង្គ តេីមានធម៌អ្វីដែលអាចកំចាត់ធម៌លោភៈល្អិតនៅក្នុងចិត្តបានដែរឬទេ ?ព្រះអង្គ Vandami Banthe 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Jan 15 10:21:37
Johann: Just open a new topic best, Nyom Puthy (requires some bhava-chanda)

2019 Jan 15 10:17:22
Johann: Nyom Puthy

2019 Jan 15 10:07:10
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ ព្រះអង្គ Vandami Banthe

2019 Jan 15 10:01:15
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ ព្រះអង្គមុនី! ករុណាមានសំណួរ១អំពី អនុស្ស័យកិលេសមាន៧ គឺ 1-កាមរាគានុស្ស័យ 2-ភវនុស្ស័យ3

2019 Jan 15 09:31:36
Cheav Villa:  :)  _/\_

2019 Jan 15 09:27:54
Chanroth: ខ្ញុំព្រះករុណាសូមថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គមុន្នី ពីរអាស្រមថ្មទូក_/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 15 09:21:46
Chanroth: បាតជំរាបសួរបងស្រី ខ្ញុំមិនទាន់បានធ្វេីនៅឡេីយទេ ពីព្រោះខ្ញុំឈឺ បានធូហេីយ តែមិនទាន់បាត់ថ្លោះករនៅឡេីយ _/\_

2019 Jan 15 08:57:49
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គមុនី  _/\_

2019 Jan 15 07:34:19
Johann: Bhante Khemakumara

2019 Jan 15 05:57:47
Cheav Villa: តើពូកំពុងជួយការងារលោកតាមែនទេ?តើនៅអាស្រមមានកង្វះខាតអ្វីទេនៅពេលនេះ

2019 Jan 15 05:54:51
Cheav Villa: ជំរាបសួរពូចាន់រ័ត្ន _/\_

2019 Jan 15 01:12:12
Johann: And "we" wouldn't always know or find out but need to relay on one who know

2019 Jan 15 01:06:48
Johann: There are two kinds of sadness and happiness, of which one of each is conductive for liberation, one not.

2019 Jan 15 01:02:24
Mohan Gnanathilake: May we always be able to find out for ourselves how much attachment we accumulate, and whether this brings us happiness or sorrow! Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!

2019 Jan 15 01:00:52
Mohan Gnanathilake: Mögen wir immer  selbst herausfinden kӧnnen, wie viel Anhaftung wir anhäufen und ob  diese Anhaftung uns die Frӧhlichkeit oder  die Traurigkeit bringt! Dhamma Grüβe aus Sri Lanka!

2019 Jan 14 13:52:41
Johann: Nyom Puthy. May you all have good Dhamma conversations with each other, don't be shy on that. Atma will go to rest.

2019 Jan 14 13:48:00
Johann: ញោម ចាន់រ័ត្ន

2019 Jan 14 12:49:01
Cheav Villa: អរព្រះគុណព្រះអង្គ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 14 12:36:20
Mohan Gnanathilake: May we possess the causes of blissfulness always! Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!

2019 Jan 14 12:35:18
Mohan Gnanathilake: Mӧgen wir immer die Ursachen der Glückseligkeit besitzen! Dhamma Grüβe  aus Sri Lanka!

2019 Jan 14 10:20:32
Johann: "នាងវិសាខា ក្រាបបង្គំទូលថា ថ្ងៃនេះខ្ញុំម្ចាស់រក្សាឧបោសថៈព្រះអង្គ។"...

2019 Jan 14 09:49:40
Chanroth:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 14 06:59:34
Cheav Villa: Jain-Upossathaកូណាមុិនទាន់យល់ន័យនៃពាក្យនេះទេ _/\_

2019 Jan 14 05:12:41
Johann: "មិនមែនជារបស់ខ្លួន"... មែន(sense)ទុក្ខឬមិន? Where?

2019 Jan 14 04:57:55
Johann: Buddha and Savaka do not teach Jain-Uposatha: អ្នកណា​មាទុក្ខ? , Sadhu

2019 Jan 14 04:50:21
Johann: ជាធម៌អសេង្ខបុគ្គល! មានទេមិនមាន ... ការនិយាយអំពីសត្វ។ ធម៌ទាំងអស់មានមូលហេតុ ដូច្នេះ: រឿងដំបូងនៅលើកដំបូង!

2019 Jan 14 04:21:59
Cheav Villa: មិនមែនជារបស់ខ្លួន ជាអនត្តាធម៌ ជាធម៌អសេង្ខបុគ្គល  _/\_

2019 Jan 14 04:16:00
Johann: មិនមែនជារបស់ខ្លួនទេ = មិនមែនទុក្ខទេ

2019 Jan 14 04:06:00
Johann: Nyom Puthy

2019 Jan 14 04:05:16
Johann: ទុក្ខំ អនិច្ចំ អន្តតា !

2019 Jan 14 02:18:42
Chanroth: ទុក្ខំ អនិច្ចំ អន្តតា

2019 Jan 13 15:16:49
Johann: First things first , very recommended, hearing the Uposatha of the Jains from the Villages all the time here.

2019 Jan 13 15:05:49
Johann: again and again coming back to Dhamma, Punja? Habits become destinies.

2019 Jan 13 14:53:42
Johann: coming back seems to be niccaŋ

2019 Jan 13 14:40:52
Cheav Villa: អនិច្ចំ *sgift*

2019 Jan 13 14:29:43
Ieng Puthy:  Chom reap leah , good bye🙏🏼

2019 Jan 13 14:18:50
Moritz: Chom reap leah, good bye _/\_

2019 Jan 13 14:11:50
Ieng Puthy: Hello Master Morithz🙏🏼

2019 Jan 13 14:07:24
Moritz: Hello Ieng Puthy _/\_

2019 Jan 13 14:07:16
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Jan 13 13:54:34
Ieng Puthy: ជំរាបសួរ បងចាន់រ័ត្ន Bong Chanroth 🙏🏼សូមបងឆាប់បានជាសះស្បេីយ

2019 Jan 13 13:49:26
Johann: Meister Moritz

2019 Jan 13 09:17:06
Chanroth: ខ្ញំបានជាហើយ តែវេទនាបានកើតឡើងចំពោះខ្ញុំ បញ្ហាថ្លោះកករ :-\

2019 Jan 13 07:49:41
Cheav Villa: ជំរាបសួរពូចាន់រ័ត្ន ពូបានធូរស្បើយហើយមើលទៅ :D _/\_

2019 Jan 13 07:48:35
Cheav Villa: Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 13 07:47:10
Johann: May all spent a meritful Siladay today or tomorrow.

2019 Jan 13 05:07:45
Chanroth: ជំរាបសួរបងស្រី វីឡាខ្ញុំបាទchanroth _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 13 00:05:39
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាព្រះអង្គ Bhante 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Jan 12 09:04:48
Johann: Nyom Puthy

2019 Jan 11 13:49:09
Cheav Villa: Thank you Bang Thy. Good come in and out  :D _/\_

2019 Jan 11 13:41:49
Johann: Sadhu

2019 Jan 11 13:13:35
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻ជំរាបសួរបងប្អូនធម្មមិត្តទាំងអស់គ្នា chumreap sour Dhamma friends !  May all have a good evening

2019 Jan 11 13:04:15
Ieng Puthy: ករុណា ព្រះអង្គ Bhante 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Jan 09 17:17:52
Cheav Villa: Bhante  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 09 16:12:53
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Jan 09 05:06:55
Johann: Nyom Puthy

2019 Jan 09 00:43:24
Johann: Sadhu

2019 Jan 08 16:15:17
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ​ Khemakumara Bhante

2019 Jan 08 16:13:20
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ​ Inddanano Bhante

2019 Jan 08 16:11:09
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 កូរុណាថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ​ vandami Bhente

2019 Jan 08 12:48:21
Moritz: May all have a good evening _/\_ Chom reap leah _/\_

2019 Jan 08 12:38:37
Moritz: :) Sayun suesday _/\_

2019 Jan 08 12:34:56
Cheav Villa: Thank you Master Moritz _/\_ Well and unwell are welcoming  :D

2019 Jan 08 12:22:05
Johann: Good to read and Sadhu

2019 Jan 08 12:17:08
Moritz: I am fine. Thanks. I hope Bhante and everyone around is well as well   _/\_

2019 Jan 08 12:11:29
Johann: Master Moritz. How is Nyom?

2019 Jan 08 12:07:29
Moritz: I think this design with shoutbox on top is a good expedient solution.

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សូមប្រើប្រាស់ប្រអប់បញ្ចូលនេះ ដើម្បីផ្ទុកការបោះពុម្ពផ្សាយថ្មីៗ និងសៀវភៅដែលបានចម្លងរួចហើយ។ បើសិនជាអ្នកមានបញ្ហា ជាមូយការបញ្ចូលតាមរយៈប្រព័ន្ធនេះ សូមមេត្តាផ្ចាប់ឯកសារជាមួយ និងសារថ្មីមួយនៅទីនេះតែម្តង់។

សូមប្រើឈ្មោះរបស់ប្រព័ន្ធនេះផងដែរៈ
"Tipitaka_Vol.040_kh _1.edition_01012017.doc(x)"
Kh មានន័យថា បកប្រែជាភាសាខ្មែរតែមួយមុខគត់។ បើសិនជាមានអក្សរ Pali សូមវាយ "khpi" ជំនូសវិញ។

ការដាក់បញ្ចូលរបស់ឯកសារគួរតែដាក់ឈ្នោះដូចនេះ ត្រៃបិដក ភាគ ទី ៤០ book 40 version 20170101, kh (doc/docx) ហើយត្រូវផ្ចាប់ទៅក្នុងឯកសារដើមផងដែរ [ Kh ] ព្រះត្រៃបិដកភាសាខ្មែរ (សេចក្តីព្រាង) Khmer translation of Tipitaka (drafts) .

បើសិនជាអាចទៅរួច សូមរក្សាទុកឯកសារ ហើយសូមប្រើ doc-files ដោយសារតែមានអ្នកខ្លះមិនមានកម្មវិធីទំនើបដើម្បីបើក doc-files បាន។

ចំណាំៈ រាល់ឯកសារព្រៀងទាំងអស់ដែលមានទំរង់ជា doc-files គួរតែមានចំនុចចំណាំនេះនៅទំព័រមុខ ដើម្បីឲដឹងថាគ្នានការកែប្រែក្មុង internet (just copy and paste in red)


Quote from: Edition note for the first page of text files
សូមថ្វាយបង្គំចំពោះព្រះសង្ឃ,
ជំរាបសួរឧបាសក និងឧបាសិកាទាំងអស់

នេះគឺជាសេចក្តីព្រាងច្បាប់ការបោះពុម្ពផ្សាយ!
1.Edition 01.01.2017
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This is a Work Edition!
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Main Guide: [Guide] ព្រះត្រៃបិដកភាសាខ្មែរហ្វូរំមគ្គ-Tipitaka Khmer transcription forum guide

Step 1. Upload of doc-files (Tipitaka by U. Norum) - Status and tipps

This step makes sure to integrate or adopt the previous work of Upasika Norum and is at the same time the base for Step 3 for the first volumes and to make the joining of the work also possible for those who can not direct participate online (one is also invited to share prints of this files to monks and people who like to join corrective work)

You may find the current book edition here:

Upload/Download: [ Kh ] ព្រះត្រៃបិដកភាសាខ្មែរ (សេចក្តីព្រាង) Khmer translation of Tipitaka (drafts)

Please use this upload-folder also for new editions and new transcribed books. If you have troubles with upload via the upload system, just attach the new file here with a post.

Please use also this file name system:
"Tipitaka_Vol.040_kh _1.edition_01012017.doc(x)"
kh stands for "Khmer transkation only, if it incl. also Pali, please use "khpi" instead.

The upload file should be named like this: ត្រៃបិដក ភាគ ទី ៤០ book 40 version 20170101, kh (doc/docx) and once uploaded attached to the main file: [ Kh ] ព្រះត្រៃបិដកភាសាខ្មែរ (សេចក្តីព្រាង) Khmer translation of Tipitaka (drafts) .

Please save and use also doc-files, if possible, since not everybody has the most modern software to open docx-files.

Note: All drafts in form of doc-files should have this on the first page, to get sure as good as possible that the will be no mass of editions on internet (just copy and past in red) :

Quote from: Edition note for the first page of text files
សូមថ្វាយបង្គំចំពោះព្រះសង្ឃ,
ជំរាបសួរឧបាសក និងឧបាសិកាទាំងអស់

នេះគឺជាសេចក្តីព្រាងការបោះពុម្ពផ្សាយ!
1.Edition 01.01.2017
សូមកុំចែករំលែកបន្ថែមទៀត ប្រសិនបើមិនមែនសម្រាប់ការកែសម្រួលនៅ sangham.net និងកិច្ចការនេះ។

សូមគិតថាលោកអ្នកត្រូវបានអញ្ជើញដើម្បីចូលរួមបុណ្យកុសលនេះ និងសូមប្រាប់ពួកយើងអំពីកំហុស និងប្រើវេទិកានេះ:http://sangham.net/index.php/board,85.0.html

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សូមអនុមោទនា!


Ven. Members of the Sangha, Ven.  Theras
Valued Upasaka, valued Upasika

This is a Work Edition!
1.Edition 01.01.2017
Do not share it further except for editing and working purposes within the transcription project on sangham.net.
Only for personal use.

 
If you find any mistake or like to join the merits please feel invited to join here: http://sangham.net/index.php/board,85.0.html

or Upasika Norum on sangham.net

Anumodana!

Please use this forum to inform about new editions, new books or to clarify edition actuallity as well as to share new items.

Thanks for patient and generousity in cooperation.

[It would be good to have a spelling correction of the text and translation into Khmer as well] [ done - added some English corrections and correct Khmer translation by Norum -- Moritz ]

For cases where certain admins are not avaliable, Global Aramik/-kinis could do it by themselves following the steps in:

Step by Step Guide for uploading new darft books according [Step 1]



Older discussions (just for documentation) :



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Atma has seen that there is already a progress and Upasaka Moritz is hard on working on it, while getting known the System as well. 

For Information: Atma had chanced the titel and Text of the main download page a little.

Of course the Khmer written info is limited and especially Upasika Norum is of course kindly invited to make everything more accessable for Khmer-Readers.

Also he has changed the download permitted groups of the category for now, to force not downloads of files which might be edited again and limited it to groups of administration, aramikas, Sissas and Monastics.

He also had seen that not all files are attached to the main file and is in progress to do it, when ever the internetservice allows it this days.

Tipps:
Even if the option of attaching a file to another is chose-able, it whouldn't work (bug or what ever), so it is needed after the first upload to select the wished file to be attached on again and save the formlar again.
If Moritz is up to upload many files, which can be a boring long time progress, its maybe easier to upload the wished files via ftp and them just select (or write) the name of the olready existing file in the formular, so that the upload it self would not need to go through the progress via TP and the internet connection of the onlie site. A small break in the connection, and one needs to do it once again... ftp-programs usually make it more comfortable and more files at once.


Thoughts:
Since it is not easy to be seen, its maybe not good to put the Vol. under the main download page.

Atma used to leave the main of a collection either without attached file or put a zip-file of the whole collection on it. The first may irritate, because when people push the big download switch, they get nothing.
Its just in that case that if the Vol. 1 is dettached from the main downloadpage, in would be needed to upload it again, and so it will be at the end of the 2,3,4... list, or in the middle. So maybe it is good to simply greate a new main download page and then, after having detached them of each other, attach it to the new.
At the beginning it might be still easier and at least not so much work.

Maybe its good to but also the Titel in Khmer for every Vol., so one could easier read it.
Atma has seen also that there is also a file/upload, with a different naming at first in the list, looks like to be Volume 40. Not sure if it is maybe a mistake.
Please understand all this as tipps and if to much trouble with it, or less time, please progress as before.
Atma or others can put it into different order or add other things later on again, even through it is meant to make Step 1 more time saving at least.
How ever you feel fit and inspired.

Please feel free to inform others of certain done deeds or what ever you feel to be helpful, or ask for ways and maybe known tricks.
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Thank you, Bhante.

Yes the upload/download function of TinyPortal is a little bit buggy.

I have uploaded the Khmer Tipitaka files from Norum (vol.1 - vol.40, already spell-checked by Norum) now through FTP and put the list of single volume downloads in the first TinyPortal download here , and changed the main file to a zip archive of all volumes. And for better consistency I will delete the other downloads.

(Vol 27 is missing for now; It seems I have missed it while downloading the files from the email; Norum would need to please send me vol. 27 again, so I could update it, because I already deleted the emails to free space. Thank you. _/\_)

Quote from: Bhante Johann
Thoughts:
  • Since it is not easy to be seen, its maybe not good to put the Vol. under the main download page.

Atma used to leave the main of a collection either without attached file or put a zip-file of the whole collection on it. The first may

...
Yes, I changed this now and made the zip archive of all volumes as main download.

  • Maybe its good to but also the Titel in Khmer for every Vol., so one could easier read it.
  • Atma has seen also that there is also a file/upload, with a different naming at first in the list, looks like to be Volume 40. Not sure if it is maybe a mistake.[/quote]
    I think I can at the moment not tell what could be the title of each volume. (or what exactly
from ... Nikaya x, Vagga y, Samyutta z to ... Nikaya X, Vagga Y, Sutta Z is included in each volume).
If Norum could provide a list of title for each volume (and / or list of the included content in each, this could be helpful, and I would update the info in the TinyPortal download and for later use). _/\_

* Moritz Please note, Norum: It would be helpful for the later volumes (not yet spell-checked) to separate the .docx files into vaggas / suttas / samyuttas in the same way as they are separated in the Chatta Sangayana and on your website, but for the first vol. 1-40, that are already finished, I think that is not important or necessary for now. We can still see about this later.

(Files are now all named the same as Tipitaka-Vol.XXX-Kh.docx)

_/\_  _/\_  _/\_
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2017, 06:27:04 AM »
Sadhu, Moritz

Atma was wondering how fast you can do this...  ok, you have uploaded to a ZzE folder and simply made links.

That is fine for now and since Atma can now download the, he is able to make the further work here, one by one.

It was meant like make usuall uploads,  but put the files first into the TP-downloadfolder and once the file exist there,  you can simply put the name into the form aufer you have created it.

If it is a normal "unprodected" download, it could in this way produce a lot of different edition all over the internet and since Cambodians love download, a mass on traffic without a chance to limit anything.

As far as Atma can see there is not only missing Vol. 27 but also Vol. 28, in the list (physical also?).
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2017, 03:30:40 AM »
Namasakara, Bhante. _/\_

Sadhu, Moritz

/ ... /

It was meant like make usuall uploads,  but put the files first into the TP-downloadfolder and once the file exist there,  you can simply put the name into the form aufer you have created it.

If it is a normal "unprodected" download, it could in this way produce a lot of different edition all over the internet and since Cambodians love download, a mass on traffic without a chance to limit anything.
Simply uploading to the tp-downloads folder is not enough. One would have to create database entries by hand afterwards to make it accessible as a download here, which would be much more complicated.
The links are only seen on the Khmer Tipitaka download page here in the forum which is only accessible to members with certain permission settings. So, although one could download the files if one knows the link, the link can only be found through the protected area, so I think it is okay the way it is. (And I have also now made the download link paths a bit more complicated, just to be sure.)
(Also I do not see any real harm if the links would be visible. Since these files as far as sent are already checked, and Norum was careful enough to not send the unchecked files before it is clear how to handle them. So please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see a problem.  ^-^)

As far as Atma can see there is not only missing Vol. 27 but also Vol. 28, in the list (physical also?).

Thank you. I made a mistake. Not volume 28 is missing, but actually volume 34 (besides volume 27), and I gave the wrong names to some links in the enumeration later on. But the files are alright. Now the links are also correct. (So in short: Volume 27 and 34 are still missing, because I did not download them from the email which I deleted afterwards.)

_/\_
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2017, 05:00:46 AM »
Namasakara, Bhante. _/\_

Sadhu, Moritz

/ ... /

It was meant like make usuall uploads,  but put the files first into the TP-downloadfolder and once the file exist there,  you can simply put the name into the form aufer you have created it.

If it is a normal "unprodected" download, it could in this way produce a lot of different edition all over the internet and since Cambodians love download, a mass on traffic without a chance to limit anything.
Simply uploading to the tp-downloads folder is not enough. One would have to create database entries by hand afterwards to make it accessible as a download here, which would be much more complicated.
The links are only seen on the Khmer Tipitaka download page here in the forum which is only accessible to members with certain permission settings. So, although one could download the files if one knows the link, the link can only be found through the protected area, so I think it is okay the way it is. (And I have also now made the download link paths a bit more complicated, just to be sure.)

Since it ia actually temorary, it will be maybe good like that. How ever Atma will sacrify some time and upload them. If you assuming that they are without misstakes is right, then it would need just some clucks to make them public later on.

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(Also I do not see any real harm if the links would be visible. Since these files as far as sent are already checked, and Norum was careful enough to not send the unchecked files before it is clear how to handle them. So please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see a problem.  ^-^)

It should not underestimated Upasika Norum skills at all, Njom, but even the original, edited by Theras and many has a lot of errors.

One more thing, also it is sometimes really above the wise, those who are learned and especially used to something, if they is a little different to the original and not explained and argumented, would simply say "that is wrong" and put it aside. Somehow like TheY acted here short time ago. So its not an easy undertaken when willing to make it usefull for many and one will receive a lot of critics on the way. Belief Atma, he is not a little that penible as scholars in Dhamma with his penible kind.

And one more importand thing is that is also a matter of respect to let it be approved by worthy members of the Sangha and get their blessings to finally share that what interpredsthe word of the Buddha to everyone. We should not follow the bad usualls of today if possible.
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As far as Atma can see there is not only missing Vol. 27 but also Vol. 28, in the list (physical also?).

Thank you. I made a mistake. Not volume 28 is missing, but actually volume 34 (besides volume 27), and I gave the wrong names to some links in the enumeration later on. But the files are alright. Now the links are also correct. (So in short: Volume 27 and 34 are still missing, because I did not download them from the email which I deleted afterwards.)

_/\_

So Atma hopes that the proverb "four or six eyes see more then two" are here also a lesson for the first part of the post.

Its maybe good, to ask Upasika Norum for sending Vol 27 and 34 once again.

Moritz, and especally Norum,
one imporand issue.
Atma will rename the doc-files, given by Upasika Norum, into this style "Tipitaka_Vol.040_kh or khpi for kh +pi_1.edition_01012017.doc" (as suggested sample and like Atma now changed the filenames for new upload), so that nobody would mix up the actuallity of versions. Please Njom Srey save and share future versions also in this way and its also goid to save them as doc-files, not docx, since there are beggers who do not have the most moder software. Atma will also convert them.

To make future uploads easier for Norum, please just use the upload possibility here within the post in this step 1 topic. You could even share the missing files here.

Another question is how to handle corrections or better errors that Atma would come accross in the progress of work, like missing or double spaces and so on?
Is it fine for Upasika to just correct them and then post a new revision, or would she like to make this step by step by her self?
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2017, 11:30:27 AM »
Uploads are, if luck, done in sooe minutes. Has been good internet and fufl batery today.

Please upload ever new version and also new book there according the standard, or post it here, so thattnobody works with an old edition, Upasak ] so that it could be added, Moritz, when ever possible and try to use the file name system.

Atma ries to finish work 6% left, will correct some minor errors and explain and add in the guide tomorrow, if possible.

Atma will add (please translate in Khmer, if possible [done, added Norum's correct translation below -- Moritz])

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After this is done, Atma will attach a zip and ask Moritz to upload the unziped in the TP download folder via ftp, so that would replace the old file direct.

The ZzE uploads can be deleted as well as the links in dl file. And we could put the download public then.

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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2017, 09:06:06 PM »
Namasakara Bhante Johann, Jom reap sour Upasaka Moritz,
Namasakara Bhante, _/\_

thank you for explaining. I understand and agree with your reasoning.

It should not underestimated Upasika Norum skills at all, Njom, but even the original, edited by Theras and many has a lot of errors.

Sure, however i checked them carefully, but I think there are still spell-mistakes. I used to invite monks and lay people to help checking, but no one wanted to join such a big Project (leider). So if the member of the group could check them again, it would be great.
Anyway, the phrase in red, it means, foot note from Pitaka khmer book (you can skip them or note next to the word or just like in chhouk-krohom.de). The words in blue mean that, the words from original book are wrong. (once, i selected blue, I checked them already with pali side and wrong-correcting words at the back of the book.)
There are many comments and quote , i may not see all of them, i will reply if i know and see :)
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2017, 06:57:49 PM »
I have updated now the uploaded .docx files (vol.1 to vol.40) with the "warning" text above, as given here in English and Khmer .

Also zipped them again and updated the uploaded archive , with .doc conversions as well (only in the zip archive till now, and not as further single uploads - as I think there is no use for them actually.)

So I would say step 1 is finished with that until vol. 40. _/\_

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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2017, 05:22:17 AM »
Sadhu!

Atma hasseen that 24 was not attached, still trying to do but very poor internet today. (Done)
On downloading 24 Atma saw that the warning text is not red. Moritz "need"to know that the defilements and taking what is not given here is even much more usuall and people usually jave as much free will as their leader would order them, so when you put a sign on a border, noone would care about it. If you make a fence, if climing over it, nobody will care about it. If you hire solders, and if they would go to the toilet, nobody would care about that. So given that people may possible looking for read, one needs to make the importand reading very strong, so that those would read. People like to eat, they would not care about nutrition facts and warnings. If it looks like the beloved food on the packing, they eat it. Fruit juce here has never seen any fruit, but people like it, because its natural, as they know from their elders, seeing a fruit.

Its very romantic to believe that cows will not eat the vegitables having planted by noble people, but believe Atma, if a cow finds a way to eat all the cow would and one can not say that the cow is bad, yet thecow would find enough to survive in the forest, so no need to worry that it will starve.

Its the duty of education , actually.

Anyhow, if you think thats fine enough, let the topic be signed as done for now.
Atma is currently making a "nice" post for the library.
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2017, 08:51:48 AM »
Sadhu fürs nochmal hochladen. Atma hat gesehen, daß 17 keinen Infotext hat, und wenn man 16 herunter laden möchte man ein 17 File bekommt. Neben dem scheint alles, bei kurzer Durchsicht, fein.

Atma vvrsucht diese beiden Files zu korrekieren (aber wieder schlechte Verbindung). Was Atma nun noch aufgefallen ist, das die neu nun heruntergeladenen files kleinere Größen haben, was durch einen Download passieren könnte (und warum Atma generell gänzliche Arbeit im Forum uud Teilen als html vorzieht) Bitte bescheid geben wenn diese Größensache nur Atma betrifft.
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2017, 01:20:05 PM »
Namasakara, Bhante. Danke fürs Bescheid geben. _/\_

Die Downloads sollten nun korrekt sein. Offenbar war Nr. 16 der falsche Dateiname eingetragen, und Nr. 17 noch zusätzlich in alter Version gespeichert. Danke fürs aufmerksam machen.

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Was Atma nun noch aufgefallen ist, das die neu nun heruntergeladenen files kleinere Größen haben, was durch einen Download passieren könnte (und warum Atma generell gänzliche Arbeit im Forum uud Teilen als html vorzieht) Bitte bescheid geben wenn diese Größensache nur Atma betrifft.

Nein, es betrifft nicht nur Sie. Der Unterschied in der Dateigröße ist hier, nachdem ich nachsehe, auch ersichtlich. Am Inhalt scheint, soweit ich sehen kann, jedoch nichts zu fehlen.

Als Ursache könnte ich nur vermuten, dass LibreOffice (was ich benutzt habe, um die Infotexte zu ergänzen) einfach eine stärkere Komprimierung beim Abspeichern verwendet als Microsoft Office.
* Moritz zur Info (Daten in docx sind im Gegensatz zu doc komprimiert (so wie zip-Dateien); das ist auch der Grund, warum doc-Dateien so viel größer sind; Komprimierungsalgorithmen (wie zip) können (ohne Datenverlust) unterschiedlich stark, und je nach Programm unterschiedlich stark eingestellt sein).

Wenn das einfach der Grund ist, wäre das ja kein Nachteil.

Lok srey Norum, it would be good if you could download and try to open the new uploaded docx files and see if there are any problems trying to open them in Windows Office (I don't have Microsoft software to test that here, using a different system), to ensure that it is usable for everyone who would take it as a basis for helping here to work on it. Thank you. _/\_

*  Also, is the info text in Khmer (as Bhante translated here ) good and correct ::) ? If you have any improvements, you can tell. _/\_
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2017, 01:10:04 AM »
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Lok srey Norum, it would be good if you could download and try to open the new uploaded docx files and see if there are any problems trying to open them in Windows Office (I don't have Microsoft software to test that here, using a different system), to ensure that it is usable for everyone who would take it as a basis for helping here to work on it. Thank you. _/\_
I have viewed them. They work, but just the translating text ... there is something wrong, sorry for seeing it late.
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2017, 01:36:09 AM »
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Lok srey Norum, it would be good if you could download and try to open the new uploaded docx files and see if there are any problems trying to open them in Windows Office (I don't have Microsoft software to test that here, using a different system), to ensure that it is usable for everyone who would take it as a basis for helping here to work on it. Thank you. _/\_
I have viewed them. They work, but just the translating text ... there is something wrong, sorry for seeing it late.

What do you mean with "only the translating text" ::) ? Only the information text that Bhante Johann wrote here ? (Is the text good also in Khmer?)

Can you show me (attach a screenshot here) so that I can see what is the problem? Maybe it is clearer in that way.

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