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2019 Feb 18 03:52:46
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 18 01:21:42
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2019 Feb 18 01:21:10
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 18 01:16:11
Johann: Bhante. Nyom Villa.

2019 Feb 18 01:14:29
Johann: Nyom Moritz. Sokh chomreoun

2019 Feb 18 00:34:02
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Feb 15 04:14:01
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 15 03:43:29
Johann: Another day, another possibility. We don't know what tomorrow might be

2019 Feb 15 03:43:01
Johann: ថ្ងៃ ថ្មី មួូយ ជា ឳកាស ថ្មី មួយ ទៀត។ យើង មិន អាច ដឹង មុន នូវ អ្វី ដែល នឹង កើតឡើង ថ្ងៃ ស្អែក

2019 Feb 12 05:47:26
Johann: Nyom Chanroth

2019 Feb 11 07:35:04
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 11 07:01:15
Johann: Bhante

2019 Feb 10 15:18:50
Vithou: Hope Preah Ang doing well too.. Thanks Preah Ang

2019 Feb 10 15:17:51
Vithou: Nhom kuna doing well so far.

2019 Feb 10 12:29:57
Johann: Nyom Vithou. But Nyom is well so far?

2019 Feb 10 12:02:00
Vithou: Actually they put in the kidnee. :)

2019 Feb 10 12:01:26
Vithou:  take it out on 20 Feb

2019 Feb 10 12:01:25
Vithou:  take it out on 20 Feb

2019 Feb 10 12:01:12
Vithou: the doctor put it for one month . I will

2019 Feb 10 12:00:28
Vithou: Kuna Tvay Bongkom Preah Ang  nyom kuna is fne now but still have a pipe inside mybody

2019 Feb 10 11:47:41
Johann: Sokh chomreoun Nyom Buddhi

2019 Feb 10 11:44:41
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាខានបានចូលមកក្នុងវេបសាយអានព្រះធម៌អស់ប៉ុន្មានថ្ងៃ

2019 Feb 10 11:41:53
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ Vandami Bhante

2019 Feb 09 14:43:21
Cheav Villa: សួស្តី​ពូចាន់រ័ត្ម _/\_

2019 Feb 09 14:42:08
Johann: ញោម Chanroth

2019 Feb 09 11:32:48
Johann: ខ្លះ ... how ever, good to here

2019 Feb 09 10:30:33
Cheav Villa: វិធូថាគាត់បានធូរខ្លះហើយ គាត់នឹងរកពេលទូលព្រះអង្គ តាម​Talk box  _/\_

2019 Feb 09 02:49:21
Cheav Villa: កូណាបានសួរគាត់ដែរ តែមិនទាន់មានការឆ្លើយតបទេ ប្រហែលជាគាត់រវល់ខ្លាំង  _/\_

2019 Feb 08 15:24:14
Johann: How is Nyom Vithou doing, Nyom Villa? Nyom Chanroth told that he still has burden after the hospital.

2019 Feb 07 13:07:06
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 07 13:04:40
Johann: Nearly out of power("suns gift") for today again. May all give into good deeds with their power left.

2019 Feb 07 13:04:33
Johann: Nearly out of power("suns gift") for today again. May all give into good deeds with their power left.

2019 Feb 05 13:35:45
Johann: Meister Vinodh

2019 Feb 05 08:45:20
Johann: មុដិតា

2019 Feb 05 07:46:50
Cheav Villa: អរព្រះគុណ​ ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ ពួកខ្ញុំកូណា បានធូរស្បើយ​ច្រើន​ អំពីបញ្ហាសុខភាពរាងកាយ​  _/\_

2019 Feb 05 07:25:29
Johann: Nyom Villa. Family, all healthy and well?

2019 Feb 05 03:34:18
Johann: Mr. Nathan

2019 Feb 04 13:42:11
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Feb 04 04:25:07
Cheav Villa: កូណា​ត្រេកអរ​ ដែលបានឃើញផ្លូវទៅមុខ ឧបនិស្ស័យ​ការបដិបត្តិ​ឧបោសថ​យឺតយូរ​  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 04 04:22:09
Cheav Villa: ការហាត់ធ្វើឧបោសថបានបន្តិចបន្តួួច ដោយវិធីស្រាយចំណងដែលជាប់មាំ

2019 Feb 04 04:18:58
Cheav Villa: ព្រះអង្គ​ _/\_ ចិត្តនឿយណាយចន្លោះពេលបានសុខ និងបានទុក្ខ

2019 Feb 04 04:04:13
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ កូណាព្រះអង្គ

2019 Feb 04 03:55:36
Johann: English iti 49

2019 Feb 04 03:51:37
Johann: Importand teaching in regard of wishing for becoming or not-becoming! ទិដ្ឋិគតសូត្រ (១២.)

2019 Feb 04 03:37:57
Johann: It can be observed free of all Sakaya ditthi as well.

2019 Feb 04 03:25:52
Johann: Uposatha is a good tradition to take on.

2019 Feb 04 03:24:53
Johann: This, the Buddha told, can not be archived by just wishing, Nyom, the end of suffering.

2019 Feb 04 02:23:26
Cheav Villa: May​ all possibilities in a rebirth has decreased  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 04 02:18:49
Cheav Villa: Since my grandmother, my dad, I kana has not taken on the traditional of Chinese new year

2019 Feb 04 01:28:26
Johann: An insightful Chines New Year and new moon day, a rebirth of another round of possibility in chosing ways with every action.

2019 Feb 03 16:08:02
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុព្រះអង្គvandami 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Feb 03 12:20:05
Cheav Villa:  កូណាព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ 

2019 Feb 03 12:10:00
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Feb 03 07:06:33
Johann: Nyom Buddhi

2019 Feb 02 16:53:13
Johann: All a matter of leaving house and not searching for the next, Nyom.

2019 Feb 02 16:51:36
Johann: Editing post here is not so good since there is a software issue, cutting away all to 200 characters.

2019 Feb 02 16:18:35
Ieng Puthy: ព្រះអង្គករុណានឹករលឹកភ្នំឱរា៉ល់ណាស់ សង្ឃឹមថាថ្ងៃណាមួយករុណានឹងបានទៅថ្វាយបង្គំុព្រះអង្គដោយផ្ទាល់ ។ បេីបុណ

2019 Feb 02 15:52:20
Johann: Nyom Buddhi

2019 Feb 02 15:35:54
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុVandami Bhante.

2019 Feb 02 15:33:38
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Feb 02 10:35:46
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 02 08:36:16
Johann: Atma will then make a "sun-break" for today

2019 Feb 01 11:36:30
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំ🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻Vandami Bhante

2019 Jan 31 15:55:14
Johann: Bhante Muni

2019 Jan 30 15:40:30
Johann: Nyom Buddhi

2019 Jan 30 05:24:55
Johann: "sreng" is really "nasty" if becoming. It's also easy to get by sweeping dusty group and dry gras.

2019 Jan 30 04:35:46
Cheav Villa: កូណាព្រះអង្គ  _/\_

2019 Jan 30 04:11:18
Johann: It's possible not "sreng", Nyom, it's autumn diseas, and infection not to be healed. The origin why the Buddha allowed tonics ("food" at "wrong" time), weakness of the body.

2019 Jan 30 03:27:08
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 30 01:12:39
Sophorn: Bhante Khemakura, kana hofft, Bhante geht es besser!  _/\_

2019 Jan 30 01:12:10
Sophorn: Vandami Bhante Khemakura  _/\_

2019 Jan 30 01:11:53
Sophorn: Vandami Bhante Indannano  _/\_

2019 Jan 30 01:11:38
Sophorn: Vandami Bhante Johann _/\_

2019 Jan 29 10:12:10
Johann: Bhante. Wie geht es der Unterlippe?

2019 Jan 27 04:59:09
Johann: Nyom Vithou

2019 Jan 26 14:38:07
Cheav Villa: Vandāmi Bhante Indaññāno  _/\_

2019 Jan 25 16:12:30
Cheav Villa:  :o _/\_

2019 Jan 25 16:04:02
Johann: There are two, actually. Something to be careful about.

2019 Jan 25 15:39:25
Cheav Villa: Vilāsa  :D karuṇā found this meaning in Pāḷi Dictionary  _/\_

2019 Jan 25 15:24:52
Johann: No vaṇṇa-macchariya: rejoicing that other appear as vilasa as oneself... Sadhu!

2019 Jan 25 15:17:51
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 25 14:29:43
Johann: If Ñoma Buddhi likes to wear the color of an ārāmikinī, to be able to edit, add translations, corrections, it should be no problem. Ñoma Vīḷa might help to get known the "power and responsibility" of goodness.

2019 Jan 25 14:22:02
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏼អរព្រះគុណព្រះអង្គ

2019 Jan 25 11:55:49
Johann: No problem Nyom, that was clear (word prediction...). Only moderator and admin can edit text in the shoutbox.

2019 Jan 25 11:04:42
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻ព្រះអង្គករុណាសរសេរអក្សរខុស ករុណារកកន្លែងលុបអក្សរដែលខុសមិនឃេីញទេ ។ ករុណាចង់សរសេរVandami Bhante មិនមែន vandalism Bhante ទេ។

2019 Jan 25 10:21:25
Chanroth:  _/\_ជំរាបបងស្រីវីឡា ហេតុអីបានជាលេខទូរសព្ទបងមិនបានសូម

2019 Jan 25 05:50:33
Cheav Villa: បងប៉ៈលើអក្សរដែរសរសេររួចនោះ វានឹងចេញ​  pen edit's icon/Delete

2019 Jan 25 05:33:21
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ vandalism Bhante. តេីព្រះសុខភាពព្រះអង្គយា៉ងណាហេីយ?

2019 Jan 25 04:04:48
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 25 02:01:40
Johann: "If you envision the Buddha as uttering nothing but sweetness and light, it may come as a shock to learn how thoroughly he ridiculed the Nigaṇṭhas over this belief."

2019 Jan 25 01:59:29
Johann: The Karma of Now: Why the Present Moment Isn’t the Goal : maybe that helps to gain upanissaya to the Buddhas real good teachings.

2019 Jan 25 01:49:43
Johann: much karuna

2019 Jan 24 16:44:54
Cheav Villa: ប៉ុន្តែ​គាត់ចូលចិត្តស្តាប់ធម៌ ព្រះអង្គ​ គូ​ សុភាព​ មុនចូលគេង _/\_

2019 Jan 24 16:20:28
Cheav Villa:  He isn't fine body and mind  _/\_

2019 Jan 24 16:02:39
Johann: Havn't seen Nyoms huband here since longer. Health and everything fine?

2019 Jan 24 15:29:16
Cheav Villa: Vaṇḍāni Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 24 15:11:50
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Jan 24 14:12:53
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

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Dieses neue Thema wurde  aus abgetrennten Beiträgen, ursprünglich in Off-Topic ideas and discoordination (Antw:[Guide] Step 1. Upload of doc-files - Status and tipps) ,  hier zu einem neuen eröffnen. Für ev. ergänzende Informationen zur Herkunft, sehen Sie bitte das Ursprugsthema ein. Anumodana!

The new topic here is made from one or more post from there Off-Topic ideas and discoordination (Antw:[Guide] Step 1. Upload of doc-files - Status and tipps) . For eventual additionally information to this new Topic, please visit also the Topic of origin. Anumodana!

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Thank you, Bhante, I prefer to stay off-topic for some more.  _/\_

* Moritz Please excuse all the very longwinded post here, in which I do a lot of explaining and excusing. It is just to inform. I will try to come back with clearer focus for coordination on all the separate steps here as soon my time and clarity of mind allows. _/\_

Quote from: Johann
Was Atma nun noch aufgefallen ist, das die neu nun heruntergeladenen files kleinere Größen haben, was durch einen Download passieren könnte (und warum Atma generell gänzliche Arbeit im Forum uud Teilen als html vorzieht) Bitte bescheid geben wenn diese Größensache nur Atma betrifft.

/ ... /

Als Ursache könnte ich nur vermuten, dass LibreOffice (was ich benutzt habe, um die Infotexte zu ergänzen) einfach eine stärkere Komprimierung beim Abspeichern verwendet als Microsoft Office.
* Moritz zur Info (Daten in docx sind im Gegensatz zu doc komprimiert (so wie zip-Dateien); das ist auch der Grund, warum doc-Dateien so viel größer sind; Komprimierungsalgorithmen (wie zip) können (ohne Datenverlust) unterschiedlich stark, und je nach Programm unterschiedlich stark eingestellt sein).

I agree it would be very good or best to work on html, or in a way that a clean and standardized HTML result could be obtained without too much trouble. How to best do that seems a bit tricky.
For integration here as articles (and also a good standard for conversion to other formats from that in the end, think), the goal should be to bring the HTML into the same standard as you already prepared with the CSCD Tipitaka in Roman.

Copy-pasting first here then into the forum as "work versions" (Step 3 - which is maybe actually step 2 or in parallel) for checking and approving, one needs to write or convert a bit (or maybe a lot) to BBC. (like the red markings for comments/footnotes, one had to look through the whole document and type for everything [color = red] ... etc. in all the necessary places - not sure about this yet, if that is necessary) which is quite much preparation work at first alone. Of course possible, but one could need very much time.)

Copy-pasting from that forum "work version" into the HTML standard like the articles is another non-trivial process of conversion again. (A thing to do later, at the very end, but of course good or better to also think about it a little beforehand while fixing the formatting for the "work versions", so one has a clear way later on).

So it is not surprising that no one really knows yet how to really start yet, and I am thinking about it.
Especially how I could help to automate one step or another, so to save others time. And I am not talking much about it because I am not yet sure.
Looking at how to do the indexes as given by your examples here and here , I think it could be actually not too difficult to automatically create all the topics if one has first prepared a good and clean index of all the necessary data (names and reference numbers to all the vaggas and their contents etc. I would need to find out more complete about the structure of the pitakas and the infos given there (like, also the parts in your given examples that have question marks in it as  (ភ.?? ទ.??) etc.) and then perhaps best need some help from Norum to get all the khmer names together in a structured list. So then, with some preparation, I think automation of this (creating all the topics) should be possible if all the infos about this structure are together and I find some time and clearness in head to program it.

Meanwhile I have also started (or continued, after the start for Vinayapiṭaka វិនយបិដក ) with creating the article categories for the Khmer Pitakas (part of step 2 [which is actually parallel to step 3]). So far all categories for Saṃyuttanikāya are created (but no Index / Info articles yet; also no shortnames yet, and not sure yet if perhaps there need to be some Khmer names added to some vaggas / khandas etc.).

So I am just collecting all this further in off-topic because it is a lot of different things in many directions, preparing this or that and thinking about. And since much is not yet clear in my head, I have not further informed or asked about it.

It seems clear that lok srey Norum can not really know at this point what to do here. So this just as information, and I would come back with hopefully some more clearer steps and further questions later. _/\_

About the doc(x) files once again: I think that the .doc conversions are really unnecessary, and could make things even more difficult if people work with these different versions. The .doc format has been replaced by Microsoft like ten years ago with .docx which is also smaller (because compressed), and people with such old versions of Microsoft Office would encounter perhaps even other difficulties as well (thinking of character set in Khmer, probably in the doc format that would be unicode, and also the large file size: Opening/saving these documents in doc has taken a loong long time in my computer (which is not so fast, but also really not yet old). Nowadays' programs know .docx). It has taken four hours alone for me to add the info/warning text in every file and save it additionally in .doc and upload it all. And then more hours to make it red , which is also a reason why I got angry and speaking about wasting time. (But especially after the last paragraph in this comment
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A month to get 40 files uploaded in a simple standard. Call my person unpatient. Please go to suttacentral and put it there, so you will a have really nice archives and Atma will possible live some years longer not forgetting his body by carry sand up a hill. Some might be inspired by meeting a person who actually stopped to struggle with the worlds issues.
which I found really disgusting. May Bhante forgive me that I still think so. I have spent much more than all my available time to think here about these things and how to make them work. Meanwhile a lot of other work I have to do is falling behind, and I really need to get back to it:
Quote from: from some conversations with a friend (and coworker/Arbeitgeber), who has a lot of patience with me already for many months and is also a true sappurisa and kalyanamitta to me
Pascal, [11.01.17 15:36]
Moin @trollkotze! Gibts was neues?

Marc, [11.01.17 15:37]
:)

Moritz, [11.01.17 15:47]
warum das mit der anmeldung bei der app nicht funktioniert, verstehe ich noch nicht. aber auch überhaupt den ganzen prozess noch nicht, der dabei ablaufen soll.
was mir aufgefallen ist, ist dass in den theme-settings ja noch einstellungen für ide product-videos-app drin sind. versucht er sich da irgednwie anzumelden? und hat deswegen "wrong audience" oder worüber er sich beschwert.
noch etwas geduld, nachher bin ich da dran. (und habe nebenher gelesen, was irh so geschieben habt, um so quereinstiegsmäßig zu sehen, was läut)
* Moritz edited out here afterwards additional excuses about having trouble with demands from other work place and "Ärger mit buddhistischem Mönch"

Pascal, [11.01.17 16:13]
super!

Pascal, [11.01.17 16:13]
Wollt nur wissen ob du da dran bist, danke

/ ... /

Pascal, [12.01.17 20:37]
@trollkotze hast schon neue Erkenntnisse?

Moritz, [12.01.17 21:07]
nein, noch nicht wirklich

Pascal, [12.01.17 21:11]
egtl kannst einfach loslegen, die app funktioniert ja bereits, zumindest können die produkte geladen und aufgelistet werden

Pascal, [12.01.17 21:11]
das passiert über den microservice

Pascal, [12.01.17 21:12]
der muss dann ggf nur erweitert werden

Pascal, [12.01.17 21:13]
so werden z.B. alle produkte im client geholt: https://git.mediamor.de/jumplink.eu/shopify-client/src/master/shopify-client.ts#L366

Pascal, [12.01.17 21:14]
und das ruft einfach das hier vom microservice auf: https://git.mediamor.de/jumplink.eu/microservice-shopify/src/master/microservice-shopify.js#L316

Pascal, [12.01.17 21:16]
und so sieht das in angular dann aus: https://git.mediamor.de/jumplink.eu/exclusive-collections-angular/src/master/src/app/products/products.component.ts#L20

Pascal, [12.01.17 21:17]
da wird dann durch his.client.listAllProduct die entsprechende methode vom shopify-client aufgerufen

Moritz, [12.01.17 21:17]
ja, danke.  alles ist gut vorbereitet. danke noch mal für die links 👍🏻

[edit] ... hmm das war off-topic ..[/edit]
* Moritz originally some angry text here with excusing about troubles with a buddhist monk, "musste damit noch abschließen" (but yet still not done it...), "keine lust mehr mich noch weiter abzugeben mit diesem erhabenen arschloch" etc., and a link to this message here

jetzt habe ich hier alles vor mir offen, shopiy-theme-repo, test-theme für recurring-customers, shopify-doku, etc. und bin bereit zu lernen.

And still after that (and really long long time already before that), my friends/coworkers had always a lot of such patience with me while I was almost all the time in some way occupied with things here as well, while I should have been focussed on doing my other work, with which I am very much behind.
So just to explain my circumstances and why I cannot sacrifice all my time. And I HAVE TO now really start focussing on my wordly work for a worldly livelhood. Bhante would not have needed to stress, and yes, waste my time, as told, answering to this disgusting cynic who talks about "motivatng" but actually destroys or undermines any wholesome motivation, condescending from his noble otherworldly high mountain, spewing spite and ridicule into what otherwise actually could have been good. I am actually still angry.

I do have much appreciation for Bhante's really hard efforts here and all its preparation, and the spirit of this project. And I think it is possible to work something out. But it does need much more time and patience.
I would try to get in more helpful contact and coordination with Norum and also Chanroth as far as he has possibility, but also mostly try and prepare to give them space for them that they can be focussed on their own.

(So now I have again spent some more hours just to write this here, and I do need to get back to my other work. But I also needed to explain why I had reason to be angry. And to explain that I am however still not gone or have given up.)

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So Atma really likes to stop to stress all over here with motivating and "pushing". Understand that such work is not possible to make even by a forest monk.

I had much agreed with this and thought after it that we could now really continue on our own (at least in principle, but without guarantee how far things would get done), with all the guides so far, and some more thought on everything, and no need as well for Bhante to get lost in it, especially after his understandable technical limitations despite which he offered so much time and tried still further to prepare the ground.

So may Bhante excuse. And may Bhante find ease, leaving things now to us to continue, if possible, which still needs some patience and time. _/\_

I will come back here hopefully with better focus (trying to address all the separate relevant topics more clearly to get coordinated) when I have time... (maybe only in some days, maybe weeks, maybe today - cannot really say...)

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Thanks for sharing all this useful thought (at least such is always good for one self to get things sorted) and no problem at all. Atma would like to wink again to a possible solution, but it need time and care to implemate it.

How ever Atma has seen that Norum simple has started and thats the way. Atma will go over it, and sirt it to a standard manually andothers will go over it an maybe correct spellings... and maybe Moritz will see a way to share something else... and so on. We know where we like to go, and we simply do that step we can do for now, each in his possibility just taking care not to make the path more burdensome for others. (Bad connection again, sorry if not that quick and Zuvorkommend)

(Atma didn't read all in detail, but the Gischt he got)
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Thank you Bhante. Wishing Bhante good and patient work with the bad connection and technical limits. _/\_

(And much though written here was just for myself.)

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