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2019 Jun 23 19:01:54
Vithou:  _/\_

2019 Jun 17 10:19:29
Johann: Bhante Khemakumara. Everything fine, health? Can he walk like before already?

2019 Jun 17 06:34:44
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu

2019 Jun 17 03:56:38
Cheav Villa: សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 17 00:46:14
Khemakumara: May all have a joy-full and fruit-full  Uposatha full-moon day

2019 Jun 15 17:53:43
Cheav Villa: កូណាព្រះអង្គទាំងអស់គ្នាសុខទុក្ខធម្មតា ទាំងសុខភាពឈឺ ជា មិនទៀងទាត់  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ ស្រីមុខក្រញ៉ូវ គាត់មានសុខភាពល្អជា

2019 Jun 15 13:03:21
Johann: All health?

2019 Jun 15 13:02:56
Johann: Nyom Muk-kamau?

2019 Jun 15 13:01:36
Johann: And own well-being, family?

2019 Jun 15 12:48:22
Johann: Maybe all busy like most at this times.

2019 Jun 15 12:44:14
Cheav Villa: បងពុទ្ធី និងវិធូរ ខ្ញុំកូណាមិនបានជួបគ្នា និងទាក់ទងគ្នាទេ ប៉ុន្មានខែចុងក្រោយនេះ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 15 12:42:16
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 15 04:21:08
Johann: Nyom Villa. All fine? Nyoms fellows, like Nyom Buddhi... havn't been seen since longer. All fine with friends and family?

2019 Jun 10 04:05:23
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 10 01:47:04
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu

2019 Jun 10 01:28:53
Khemakumara: May all have a fruitful waxing moon Uposatha!

2019 Jun 10 01:26:44
Khemakumara: Silena sugatiṁ yanti. Through virtue they go to a good destination.  Silena bhoga-sampadā.  Through virtue is wealth attained.  Silena nibbutiṁ yanti. Through virtue they go to Unbinding.  Tasmā silaṁ visodhaye. Therefore we should purify our virtue.

2019 Jun 06 14:52:24
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ kana,  Bhante. The wound heals fast and good.

2019 Jun 06 13:46:02
Johann: Bhante is fine, at least better?

2019 Jun 05 11:53:33
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 05 05:19:35
Johann: "N'atthi santi param sukham", there is no peace equal the hail of release

2019 Jun 04 10:25:51
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Jun 04 05:13:11
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 02 12:03:42
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 02 00:29:09
Johann: May all enjoy the bliss of the fruitful observing of the Uposatha

2019 May 31 14:40:02
Cheav Villa: សាធុ​ សាធុ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 31 13:47:09
Johann: Sadhu and Anumodana Nyom.

2019 May 31 12:40:14
Cheav Villa: សូមអោយព្រះអង្គឆាប់ជាសះស្បើយ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 31 12:39:05
Cheav Villa: ព្រះអង្គKhemakumara ត្រូវបានពុទ្ធបរិស័ទនិមន្តទៅគ្លីនីកនៅជិតវត្តកាលពីម៉ោង​2 និងបានវះកាត់ព្យាបាល រួចត្រឡប់ទៅវត្ត

2019 May 31 12:36:20
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំ​ ព្រះ​អង្គ​ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 29 09:03:01
Johann: Had overseen Bhante here. Bhante Ariyadhammika  _/\_

2019 May 29 02:19:33
Khemakumara: Bhante Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 28 04:18:48
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 27 10:03:55
Johann: Much in German, Nyom, currently. Atma will try to translate as much as possible, step by step.

2019 May 26 03:04:21
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 26 03:04:06
Cheav Villa: សាធុ​

2019 May 26 01:02:17
Johann: Sadhu

2019 May 26 00:44:22
Khemakumara: May all have a meritful Uposatha day. Meeting some good friends (kalyanamitta) and som(e) sil(a) សំម សីល!

2019 May 24 14:13:29
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 May 24 13:28:52
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 24 05:23:33
Johann: Venerable

2019 May 24 05:22:57
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Johann

2019 May 24 02:08:29
Johann: Nyom Moritz, Nyom Villa.

2019 May 24 01:55:56
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 24 01:54:14
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2019 May 24 01:49:43
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 24 01:06:04
Johann: Venerable Ariyadhammika  _/\_

2019 May 20 04:14:26
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 20 01:31:27
Johann:  _/\_ Bhante Indannano

2019 May 19 11:28:39
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 May 19 11:27:48
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 18 23:55:08
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 18 10:34:49
amanaki: Thank you Johann  _/\_

2019 May 18 09:59:33
Johann: Nyom Amanaki. Mudita that you may have possible found what searched for on a special day.

2019 May 18 09:24:56
Maria:  _/\_

2019 May 18 09:24:35
Maria: werter Bhante!

2019 May 18 09:22:43
Johann: Nyom Mizi

2019 May 18 09:21:31
Johann: Nyom Sophorn, Nyom Villa... may all here but also there rejoice in own and others goodness.

2019 May 18 05:03:47
Cheav Villa: សាធុ​សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 18 02:16:49
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 14 07:51:30
Vithou:  _/\_

2019 May 14 05:40:54
Johann: As long as not using telefon while riding. Sokh chomreoun, Nyom.

2019 May 13 18:38:46
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ (sitting in Taxi)

2019 May 12 15:44:32
Johann: But better ask Nyom Chanroth, since Atma does not walk that far these days.

2019 May 12 15:04:01
Johann: not teally, Nyom Vithou. Still less water in the streams here. Some still dry. Needs a while down from the mountains and not that much rain yet.

2019 May 12 14:54:37
Vithou: how is the road Bhante? Is it float at the mountain leg?

2019 May 12 14:51:59
Vithou:   _/\_

2019 May 12 14:40:43
Johann: Nyom Vithou. Nothing special. Yes, rain is present every afternoon since some days.

2019 May 12 14:38:33
Vithou: Bhante, how is everything at Asrum? Is it raining everyday?

2019 May 12 07:05:30
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 12 03:58:19
Johann: a joyful day in merits on this Sila-day

2019 May 11 17:04:10
Cheav Villa:  :) _/\_

2019 May 11 16:16:56
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2019 May 11 05:35:39
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 11 00:52:44
Johann: an meritful Uposatha, those keeping it today

2019 May 10 17:14:43
Moritz: Chom reap leah, I am going to work. _/\_

2019 May 10 17:09:07
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 May 10 17:07:14
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 10 16:19:14
Moritz: Chom reap sour, bong Villa _/\_

2019 May 07 19:12:10
Johann: Nyom Vithou. Just some hours ago, thought of him.

2019 May 05 04:26:53
Chanroth:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 04 11:41:08
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 04 10:27:38
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 May 03 10:08:09
Khemakumara: Sadhu, sadhu, sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 03 01:17:53
Johann: A meritful new moon Uposatha those celebrating it today.

2019 May 03 01:16:05
Johann: Talk box is buggy and lines love to jump. Better not editing.

2019 May 03 01:14:19
Johann: U Chanroth: "ថ្ងៃនេះខ្ញុំបាទ បានទទួលនៅសម្ភារៈមួយចំនួន សម្រាប់កសាងអាស្រមថ្មទូកសូមជូនបុណ្យដល់ពុទ្ធបរិសទ័ទាំងអស់គ

2019 May 02 15:15:58
Cheav Villa:   <.I.> _/\_

2019 May 02 15:15:17
Cheav Villa: Sorry because of kh font doesn't run well on my phone. Kana go to edit  to see the right  shout but  was wrong by deleting Pou  Chanroth 's  shout

2019 May 02 15:01:04
Cheav Villa: Mudita  :) _/\_

2019 May 02 13:47:17
Moritz: Anumodana puñña kusala! _/\_

2019 May 01 14:49:38
Johann: Now some monks are so close to many, that they can be visited even by feet.

2019 May 01 06:27:25
Johann: Thats accoss the whole city and hot (but cloudy  :) ) Best wishes and greatings.

2019 May 01 06:22:36
Cheav Villa: Get lost in the jungle of Phnom Penh from 2pm till 6pm

2019 May 01 05:40:26
Cheav Villa: Bhante Khemakumara arrived at Wat Sophea Khun in late evening  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 29 09:19:56
Johann: Meister Moritz

2019 Apr 29 08:51:27
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Apr 29 03:07:40
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_ I am going to sleep.

2019 Apr 29 02:59:19
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

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Dieses neue Thema wurde  aus abgetrennten Beiträgen, ursprünglich in Off-Topic ideas and discoordination (Antw:[Guide] Step 1. Upload of doc-files - Status and tipps) ,  hier zu einem neuen eröffnen. Für ev. ergänzende Informationen zur Herkunft, sehen Sie bitte das Ursprugsthema ein. Anumodana!

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Thank you, Bhante, I prefer to stay off-topic for some more.  _/\_

* Moritz Please excuse all the very longwinded post here, in which I do a lot of explaining and excusing. It is just to inform. I will try to come back with clearer focus for coordination on all the separate steps here as soon my time and clarity of mind allows. _/\_

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Was Atma nun noch aufgefallen ist, das die neu nun heruntergeladenen files kleinere Größen haben, was durch einen Download passieren könnte (und warum Atma generell gänzliche Arbeit im Forum uud Teilen als html vorzieht) Bitte bescheid geben wenn diese Größensache nur Atma betrifft.

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Als Ursache könnte ich nur vermuten, dass LibreOffice (was ich benutzt habe, um die Infotexte zu ergänzen) einfach eine stärkere Komprimierung beim Abspeichern verwendet als Microsoft Office.
* Moritz zur Info (Daten in docx sind im Gegensatz zu doc komprimiert (so wie zip-Dateien); das ist auch der Grund, warum doc-Dateien so viel größer sind; Komprimierungsalgorithmen (wie zip) können (ohne Datenverlust) unterschiedlich stark, und je nach Programm unterschiedlich stark eingestellt sein).

I agree it would be very good or best to work on html, or in a way that a clean and standardized HTML result could be obtained without too much trouble. How to best do that seems a bit tricky.
For integration here as articles (and also a good standard for conversion to other formats from that in the end, think), the goal should be to bring the HTML into the same standard as you already prepared with the CSCD Tipitaka in Roman.

Copy-pasting first here then into the forum as "work versions" (Step 3 - which is maybe actually step 2 or in parallel) for checking and approving, one needs to write or convert a bit (or maybe a lot) to BBC. (like the red markings for comments/footnotes, one had to look through the whole document and type for everything [color = red] ... etc. in all the necessary places - not sure about this yet, if that is necessary) which is quite much preparation work at first alone. Of course possible, but one could need very much time.)

Copy-pasting from that forum "work version" into the HTML standard like the articles is another non-trivial process of conversion again. (A thing to do later, at the very end, but of course good or better to also think about it a little beforehand while fixing the formatting for the "work versions", so one has a clear way later on).

So it is not surprising that no one really knows yet how to really start yet, and I am thinking about it.
Especially how I could help to automate one step or another, so to save others time. And I am not talking much about it because I am not yet sure.
Looking at how to do the indexes as given by your examples here and here , I think it could be actually not too difficult to automatically create all the topics if one has first prepared a good and clean index of all the necessary data (names and reference numbers to all the vaggas and their contents etc. I would need to find out more complete about the structure of the pitakas and the infos given there (like, also the parts in your given examples that have question marks in it as  (ភ.?? ទ.??) etc.) and then perhaps best need some help from Norum to get all the khmer names together in a structured list. So then, with some preparation, I think automation of this (creating all the topics) should be possible if all the infos about this structure are together and I find some time and clearness in head to program it.

Meanwhile I have also started (or continued, after the start for Vinayapiṭaka វិនយបិដក ) with creating the article categories for the Khmer Pitakas (part of step 2 [which is actually parallel to step 3]). So far all categories for Saṃyuttanikāya are created (but no Index / Info articles yet; also no shortnames yet, and not sure yet if perhaps there need to be some Khmer names added to some vaggas / khandas etc.).

So I am just collecting all this further in off-topic because it is a lot of different things in many directions, preparing this or that and thinking about. And since much is not yet clear in my head, I have not further informed or asked about it.

It seems clear that lok srey Norum can not really know at this point what to do here. So this just as information, and I would come back with hopefully some more clearer steps and further questions later. _/\_

About the doc(x) files once again: I think that the .doc conversions are really unnecessary, and could make things even more difficult if people work with these different versions. The .doc format has been replaced by Microsoft like ten years ago with .docx which is also smaller (because compressed), and people with such old versions of Microsoft Office would encounter perhaps even other difficulties as well (thinking of character set in Khmer, probably in the doc format that would be unicode, and also the large file size: Opening/saving these documents in doc has taken a loong long time in my computer (which is not so fast, but also really not yet old). Nowadays' programs know .docx). It has taken four hours alone for me to add the info/warning text in every file and save it additionally in .doc and upload it all. And then more hours to make it red , which is also a reason why I got angry and speaking about wasting time. (But especially after the last paragraph in this comment
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A month to get 40 files uploaded in a simple standard. Call my person unpatient. Please go to suttacentral and put it there, so you will a have really nice archives and Atma will possible live some years longer not forgetting his body by carry sand up a hill. Some might be inspired by meeting a person who actually stopped to struggle with the worlds issues.
which I found really disgusting. May Bhante forgive me that I still think so. I have spent much more than all my available time to think here about these things and how to make them work. Meanwhile a lot of other work I have to do is falling behind, and I really need to get back to it:
Quote from: from some conversations with a friend (and coworker/Arbeitgeber), who has a lot of patience with me already for many months and is also a true sappurisa and kalyanamitta to me
Pascal, [11.01.17 15:36]
Moin @trollkotze! Gibts was neues?

Marc, [11.01.17 15:37]
:)

Moritz, [11.01.17 15:47]
warum das mit der anmeldung bei der app nicht funktioniert, verstehe ich noch nicht. aber auch überhaupt den ganzen prozess noch nicht, der dabei ablaufen soll.
was mir aufgefallen ist, ist dass in den theme-settings ja noch einstellungen für ide product-videos-app drin sind. versucht er sich da irgednwie anzumelden? und hat deswegen "wrong audience" oder worüber er sich beschwert.
noch etwas geduld, nachher bin ich da dran. (und habe nebenher gelesen, was irh so geschieben habt, um so quereinstiegsmäßig zu sehen, was läut)
* Moritz edited out here afterwards additional excuses about having trouble with demands from other work place and "Ärger mit buddhistischem Mönch"

Pascal, [11.01.17 16:13]
super!

Pascal, [11.01.17 16:13]
Wollt nur wissen ob du da dran bist, danke

/ ... /

Pascal, [12.01.17 20:37]
@trollkotze hast schon neue Erkenntnisse?

Moritz, [12.01.17 21:07]
nein, noch nicht wirklich

Pascal, [12.01.17 21:11]
egtl kannst einfach loslegen, die app funktioniert ja bereits, zumindest können die produkte geladen und aufgelistet werden

Pascal, [12.01.17 21:11]
das passiert über den microservice

Pascal, [12.01.17 21:12]
der muss dann ggf nur erweitert werden

Pascal, [12.01.17 21:13]
so werden z.B. alle produkte im client geholt: https://git.mediamor.de/jumplink.eu/shopify-client/src/master/shopify-client.ts#L366

Pascal, [12.01.17 21:14]
und das ruft einfach das hier vom microservice auf: https://git.mediamor.de/jumplink.eu/microservice-shopify/src/master/microservice-shopify.js#L316

Pascal, [12.01.17 21:16]
und so sieht das in angular dann aus: https://git.mediamor.de/jumplink.eu/exclusive-collections-angular/src/master/src/app/products/products.component.ts#L20

Pascal, [12.01.17 21:17]
da wird dann durch his.client.listAllProduct die entsprechende methode vom shopify-client aufgerufen

Moritz, [12.01.17 21:17]
ja, danke.  alles ist gut vorbereitet. danke noch mal für die links 👍🏻

[edit] ... hmm das war off-topic ..[/edit]
* Moritz originally some angry text here with excusing about troubles with a buddhist monk, "musste damit noch abschließen" (but yet still not done it...), "keine lust mehr mich noch weiter abzugeben mit diesem erhabenen arschloch" etc., and a link to this message here

jetzt habe ich hier alles vor mir offen, shopiy-theme-repo, test-theme für recurring-customers, shopify-doku, etc. und bin bereit zu lernen.

And still after that (and really long long time already before that), my friends/coworkers had always a lot of such patience with me while I was almost all the time in some way occupied with things here as well, while I should have been focussed on doing my other work, with which I am very much behind.
So just to explain my circumstances and why I cannot sacrifice all my time. And I HAVE TO now really start focussing on my wordly work for a worldly livelhood. Bhante would not have needed to stress, and yes, waste my time, as told, answering to this disgusting cynic who talks about "motivatng" but actually destroys or undermines any wholesome motivation, condescending from his noble otherworldly high mountain, spewing spite and ridicule into what otherwise actually could have been good. I am actually still angry.

I do have much appreciation for Bhante's really hard efforts here and all its preparation, and the spirit of this project. And I think it is possible to work something out. But it does need much more time and patience.
I would try to get in more helpful contact and coordination with Norum and also Chanroth as far as he has possibility, but also mostly try and prepare to give them space for them that they can be focussed on their own.

(So now I have again spent some more hours just to write this here, and I do need to get back to my other work. But I also needed to explain why I had reason to be angry. And to explain that I am however still not gone or have given up.)

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So Atma really likes to stop to stress all over here with motivating and "pushing". Understand that such work is not possible to make even by a forest monk.

I had much agreed with this and thought after it that we could now really continue on our own (at least in principle, but without guarantee how far things would get done), with all the guides so far, and some more thought on everything, and no need as well for Bhante to get lost in it, especially after his understandable technical limitations despite which he offered so much time and tried still further to prepare the ground.

So may Bhante excuse. And may Bhante find ease, leaving things now to us to continue, if possible, which still needs some patience and time. _/\_

I will come back here hopefully with better focus (trying to address all the separate relevant topics more clearly to get coordinated) when I have time... (maybe only in some days, maybe weeks, maybe today - cannot really say...)

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_
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Thanks for sharing all this useful thought (at least such is always good for one self to get things sorted) and no problem at all. Atma would like to wink again to a possible solution, but it need time and care to implemate it.

How ever Atma has seen that Norum simple has started and thats the way. Atma will go over it, and sirt it to a standard manually andothers will go over it an maybe correct spellings... and maybe Moritz will see a way to share something else... and so on. We know where we like to go, and we simply do that step we can do for now, each in his possibility just taking care not to make the path more burdensome for others. (Bad connection again, sorry if not that quick and Zuvorkommend)

(Atma didn't read all in detail, but the Gischt he got)
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Thank you Bhante. Wishing Bhante good and patient work with the bad connection and technical limits. _/\_

(And much though written here was just for myself.)

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