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Johann: (no problem at all) A blessed and meritful conducted Uposatha those observing it today.

2019 Sep 13 16:07:47
Cheav Villa: សុំទោស _/\_

2019 Sep 13 16:06:36
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Sep 13 15:53:17
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Varado _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 13 15:51:32
Johann:  _/\_ Bante Varado. Nyom Morotz, Nyom Villa.

2019 Sep 13 15:50:03
Cheav Villa: Master Morit  :) _/\_

2019 Sep 13 15:47:31
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Varado _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Johann _/\_ Bong Villa

2019 Sep 13 00:35:39
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 12 20:36:10
Johann: Beyound birth, stand, age, gender, lay or in robes.

2019 Sep 12 20:33:57
Johann: No way for one not gained relation at time.

2019 Sep 12 20:33:01
Johann: Beings, indeed, find only that what they are looking for, and seldom, very seldom, it's related upwatdly, even release in unbond.

2019 Sep 12 17:35:22
Johann: (Delayed) Bhante.

2019 Sep 12 16:16:22
Khemakumara: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Johann

2019 Sep 12 16:16:03
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Varado

2019 Sep 12 10:25:12
Cheav Villa: សូមសុខ សុវត្ថិភាពតាមផ្លូវ _/\_

2019 Sep 12 10:14:50
Chanroth:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ខ្ញុំទៅ v.n​ ដេីម្បីព្យាបាលជម្ងឺក្រពះ របស់ម្ដាយខ្ញុំ

2019 Sep 12 09:45:43
Johann: Bhante. May Bhante look at his Kuti .

2019 Sep 12 09:02:52
Varado: Thanks for fixing that. May you be well.

2019 Sep 12 08:41:30
Varado: Is the Glossary still available for download?

2019 Sep 12 08:26:31
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhate _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ How is Bhante's health?  _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 09 13:03:42
Johann:  _/\_ Bhante Varado

2019 Sep 07 11:49:16
Vithou:  _/\_

2019 Sep 07 09:12:43
Chanroth:  :( :( :(

2019 Sep 07 09:11:31
Chanroth:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 07 09:11:27
Chanroth:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 07 01:50:59
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 07 00:53:49
Johann: A meritful Uposatha observance those who undertake it today.

2019 Sep 06 11:58:54
Johann:  _/\_ Bhante. Might have been an auto mail (and not so importand). He could share it in his kuti, if wishing.

2019 Sep 06 11:53:04
Yocakkhuma: There was an email in German I didn't get the meaning..?!

2019 Sep 06 11:49:40
Yocakkhuma: Hi everyone, may all beings be happy

2019 Sep 06 08:29:17
Ieng Puthy: ករុណា ព្រះអង្គ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 08:08:29
Johann: Atma's health is dhammata, nothing special, Nyom.

2019 Sep 06 08:06:42
Johann: Nyom Buddhi. Mudita that she could access again.

2019 Sep 06 07:41:15
Ieng Puthy:  _/\_How is Bhante health?

2019 Sep 06 07:35:57
Ieng Puthy:  _/\_ អរព្រះគុណ ព្រះអង្គ Vandami Bhante

2019 Sep 06 07:32:24
Ieng Puthy: Chum Reap Sour   _/\_Mr Moritz

2019 Sep 06 07:30:55
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាសូមថ្វាយបង្គំុ Khemakumara Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 07:21:17
Ieng Puthy: Vandami Bhante  _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 06:20:55
Johann: mudita

2019 Sep 06 06:01:57
Cheav Villa: Kana Prah Ang, She forgot username' password. And kana had sent her already about the info. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 05:51:33
Johann: Did Nyom get the email? If any question, she may not hesitate to raise.

2019 Sep 06 04:55:56
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 04:49:44
Johann: It's like practicing Jhana. Importand to remember how to enter, how to leave.

2019 Sep 06 04:47:12
Johann: Ieng Puthy  :) Atma had send Nyom an email for her access datas.

2019 Sep 06 04:39:34
Cheav Villa: She forgot username's password _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 04:35:33
Cheav Villa: Kana had sent her email and password already, she could not accessible _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 04:18:55
Johann: Good. Atma thinks it's easier to make it new and then send an email to Nyom Villa.

2019 Sep 06 04:15:27
Johann: but Atma had send Nyom a PM once, right? Maybe, if Nyom gave her access, she can look into her PM's. again.

2019 Sep 06 04:13:41
Cheav Villa: Kana  _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2019 Sep 06 04:11:05
Johann: She can either use the link "forgot passwort" and will get an email. Or, if no access to email, Atma could make a new pass word. (My person thought so, that it got lost))

2019 Sep 06 03:07:38
Cheav Villa: Sister Puthy, in this morning asked Kana she forgot her login password into  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 03:06:19
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 01:50:10
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 01:45:46
Johann: A pleasing and meritful Uposatha, those observing it today.

2019 Sep 05 12:00:09
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Sep 05 10:10:57
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Aug 30 03:50:22
Johann: Seams as if the rain leaves way to make a round

2019 Aug 30 02:34:32
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 30 01:33:20
Johann: and may those observing it today enjoy the rest in doing merits as well

2019 Aug 29 02:10:10
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 29 01:58:34
Johann: An admirable New-moon Uposatha observing all those conducting it today.

2019 Aug 25 15:07:04
Vithou:  _/\_

2019 Aug 23 06:28:14
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 23 06:06:18
Johann: At least here in the vally, people celebrate the Uposatha today. May it be blessed and meritful spend by those taking part.

2019 Aug 22 12:53:30
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Aug 22 10:04:46
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2019 Aug 22 10:01:05
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Bong Villa _/\_

2019 Aug 21 10:59:03
Johann: May Sukha come to fulfillment, Nyom.

2019 Aug 21 10:44:55
Moritz: Chom reap leah, Bhante _/\_ I have some other stuff to do now and will come back later. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 21 09:15:49
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Aug 21 08:22:24
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 20 11:46:26
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante  _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 20 11:25:55
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Aug 16 12:51:30
Johann: Does she have any technical difficulty? Just because such could be.

2019 Aug 16 12:50:14
Johann: Nyom Anneliese

2019 Aug 15 04:29:20
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Sadhu

2019 Aug 15 03:49:34
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 15 00:36:44
Johann: A blessed full moon Upusatha and much joy in merits

2019 Aug 11 14:35:01
Mohan Gnanathilake: Dear The Most Reverend Samanera Johann, Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka! Sehr ehrwürdiger Samanera Johann, Dhamma Grüße an Sie aus Sri Lanka!

2019 Aug 11 14:32:29
Mohan Gnanathilake: Dear The Most Reverend Samanera Johann, Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!

2019 Aug 11 14:14:46
Johann: Nyom Mohan

2019 Aug 11 07:32:16
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 11 01:15:57
Johann: Nothing much burdensome this time, Nyom Villa.

2019 Aug 10 16:42:46
Cheav Villa: How is Bhante health?  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 10 16:28:44
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 10 15:04:44
Johann: Nyom Vithou, Nyom Villa

2019 Aug 08 02:03:56
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 08 01:32:20
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ sadhu

2019 Aug 08 00:29:15
Johann: A blessed Uposatha-Sila-observation day and much recoicing with ones beauty investments and gains.

2019 Aug 03 01:35:23
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Aug 03 01:09:55
Moritz: (or morning...)

2019 Aug 03 01:09:31
Moritz: Good evening, Bhante _/\_

2019 Aug 02 08:54:49
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 02 07:30:06
Johann: Once really going for refuge, such is ensured.

2019 Aug 02 07:28:16
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu

2019 Aug 02 07:04:04
Cheav Villa: May all suffering being healed under the refuge of the three gems _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 02 05:36:31
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Aug 02 05:28:41
Moritz: (going to sleep now) _/\_

2019 Aug 02 05:28:24
Moritz: _/\_

2019 Aug 02 05:28:21
Moritz: Good morning, Bhante, bong Villa!

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Offline Vorapol

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Thai Language.
« on: April 13, 2013, 12:54:35 PM »
Hello, dear all

I'm a thai and a newbie of this forum.

Johann offered me to teach thai language on this forum.

I'm very happy to introduce you all about thai language, even though I'm not a teacher and my english skill is terrible.

I don't know where I should begin to introduce, so I will let you see how I learn pali language, to let you see the method of introducing that I can do to you.

1. I memorize roman-pali-alphabet, practice my pali writing skill  by quoting and discuss dhamma about pali tipitaka in dhammawheel.
So, if you wonder about english tipitaka translated word, you should search into,, and to find origin pali in roman, then find the sam thai alphabet out to copy to quote into this forum in thai.

You can use to quote a thai translated tipitaka, too. Thai translated tipitaka/commentary are the easy way to learn thai sentence structure. Because they rather have a clear preposition/conjunction, word step. Another they are dhamma.

2. I practice my pronunciation by  memorizing Pali IPA Table (thai language IPA table ).

Another, in thai you must know all in this section

I speech my thai word in pali accent so much as thais often ask me "Are you a thai", when they have listened my speech. (This is an example of an effort to learn a new language. Because pali and almost all language around the world began from  right listening and right speech. Reading and writing is just optional.)

fastest way to learn pronunciation that kaccayana-pakarana and philosophers recommend at first is "How to act for making each consonant", so I gave you an IPA Table. Memorize it fast = faster to learn thai language. 

3. I learn pali sentence structure by dhamma translating about my tipitaka's wondering word(s) in commentary and sub-commentary  that hadn't been translated in thai (to add a new vision).

So if you are wonder about english translated tipitaka word, you should find into for translated commentary, then post to ask about the translate or try to translate yourselves if you have times.

4. See

I'm worry about my english so much.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2013, 01:32:00 AM by theY »

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Re: Thai Language.
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2013, 01:37:40 PM »
Sadhu! Sadhu! Sadhu!


Thanks for your kind offer!

Please don't worry about your english. That is even perfect so all who like to participate would need to stick to Thai language and have less changes to run away in their own language.

Thanks for the links your provided. Nevertheless it would be great if you could give personal teaching for dhammika, people who like to make retreats in Thailand and future novices as well.

Maybe you like to think about how many time your would like to give and which time (maybe two times a week one or two hours) to give and provide some teaching.

In regard of how to teach, don't worry and also in regard of accent, don't worry. Pali accent (old Thai) is perfect for a noble propose and in regard of how to teach, I would request Armaikini Sophorn to help out a little, as she is a professional language teacher and uses to teach languages to foreign people.

We have many possibilities, and if you feel well and proper to start such we would try to create a special forum and provide all needed.

Maybe you like to think about the time and resources you will be able to give and a beginning time. We would like to share the possibility and maybe we are able to make a class of minimum 5 max. 10 people.

But we could start with easy conversation in a way I like to make a sample her:

English easy conversation lesson I.1:

"Welcome Mr TheY!" (listen to attached file rec0413-182438.mp3 , speak your self and provide a file)

"How are you Mister TheY?" (listen to attached file rec0413-182445.mp3 , speak your self and provide a file)

After that people could provide their record, you could listen and correct them, as one sample.
A simply software to record can be found here: Audio Intergation, ein paar Test - Audio integration some test , free sound record 7.3.1

Maybe you can teach us "Welcome Mr TheY!" and "How are you Mister TheY?" in Thai language in this way to make a joyfull starting sample.

Just ideas. Thanks for your participation and offer!

Note: I am not sure if "Bhadanta" would be proper (my person is not official ordained!) just Johann is ok (not 100% pure yet). But a Sadhu! for the sign of respect.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2013, 01:58:38 PM by Johann »
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Re: Thai Language.
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2013, 05:12:25 AM »
Thank you, Johann.

I have edited the top post at some place that I made a mistake.


Memorize Thai Speech Sounds And Alphabets:

Memorize thai speech sounds and alphabets by note/print above table on a little paper and take it with you in everywhere.
At the place that you regularly go everyday--such as bathroom, toilet, on your bike, at your home.
When you bore, when you are free, or every time that you can remember "I wanna speak thai as fast as I can do".
*Important* -- Just pray everyday, although it will be 10 minute per day.
1.This step--phonology, is the most important tool to make you fast more to learn a thai language.
2.Memorizing is the method that buddha, commentary, sub commentary, pali teachers, myanmar teachers, and thai old teachers chose. So it must be the fastest and powerful way to learn something such as thai language.
1. Memorize breath intensity, and the places that your tongue/mouth should touch to make an each sound.
2. Touch you tongue/mouth to a place that fixed in the table.

Don't care the sound, but just care that you touch and breath right. Because you sound will not completely like a thai accent until you had not been practice all of phonology   section.

Where is the exercise?
-Thai alphabet song:
-Above IPA table.
-Below bolder prose:
9 Consonants-- Middle Class:
Note: ไก่ ( ก ) จิก ( จ ) เด็ก( ฎ ) ตาย ( ฏ ) เด็ก ( ด ) ตาย ( ต ) บน ( บ ) ปาก ( ป ) โอ่ง ( อ )

11 Consonants-- High Class:
Note: ผี ( ผ ) ฝาก ( ฝ ) ถุง ( ฐ ถ ) ข้าว ( ฃ ข ) สาร ( ศ ษ ส ) ให้ ( ห ) ฉัน ( ฉ )

24 Consonants-- Low Class:
A. 14 Consonants-- Pair Of High Class:
Note: พ่อ ( พ ภ ) ค้า ( ค ฅ ) ฟัน ( ฟ ) ทอง ( ฒ ฑ ท ธ ) ซื้อ ( ซ ) ช้าง ( ช ) ฮ่อ (ฮ )

B. 10 Consonants-- Single:
งูใหญ่นอนอยู่ ณ ริมวัดโมฬีโลก
Note: งู ( ง ) ใหญ่ ( ญ ) นอน ( น ) อยู่ ( ย ) ณ( ณ ) ริม ( ร ) วัด ( ว ) โม ( ม ) ฬี ( ฬ ) โลก ( ล )

Use google translate to listen the sound or to see converted alphabet to IPA.

Any question?

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Re: Thai Language.
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2013, 06:35:21 AM »
That look great for the first step TheY! Thanks!

If it is ok for you, I will try to organice a sub-forum and give it some structure. Your first lesson is great, as its the fundamental need, everybody can train by one self and in the meantime it would be possible to thing about general things, like:

When to start with the class?
Endurance 3Month courses, 6 month courses?
How often and how long (especially for you)?
Which teaching system to follow (maybe you choose a special book, its not good to give to much info at one time, as students feel stressed and overhelmed)
How to organize it?
Who to make tests?
Maybe you like to invite a friend or college as co-teacher, if one is to busy.
How to organize it that it will have also some joy and fun for the students?
The program should be especial for people who tend to monastic life, so it should be a goof Thai language and useful for practicing Buddhists and not so much the daily language on the street and the connection to Pali of course (but just side infos, not to much)

Maybe a 6 Month study class, or something like that.

Maybe you like to think about it a little and I will start to organize you a good classroom here.

And most important: Step by step. Take all the time you need for a good work. Priority is the student and his needs and disabilities. So much punna this teaching work and therefore not so easy but with great fruits.

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Re: Thai Language.
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2013, 06:46:30 AM »
I just had an idea, maybe our new Laityadministrator Alexander can help here much. He lives in Thailand, speaks a little Thai, as well as English.
Maybe you can organize it together, as he knows both, the Thai methods and the way western people think.
Maybe you can even meet each other, for a good talk.

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Re: Thai Language.
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2013, 07:49:41 PM »
Pardon, here I can't help really. Neither I know the Pali language, nor the Latin, except a few words. If there is a look to the latin language, there should be a look to the greece language too, of cause it had a lot of influence.
For me it helps, if I have some possibilities to look for the origins of some important words, so thank's a lot.
My Thai is a poor Thai, my English is a bit better. I have learned Thai by myself. I have Chosen some important words, these are the words, which are mostly used in sentenceses, I have used them in a mix with English and Hand and Food Explanation, like a monkey, and so I'd learned to speak with the Thais in their language. If there are a few words known, to speak is a Patchwork, sometimes with a Bypass, that they can understand me. The People here, who listen open, can understand me, the others not. Thais are quickly confused, if someone uses their language another way than habitual.
The pronounciation is easyer than the farang languages, of cause there has to be made usage of the nose and mostly of a tongue which is wishi-washi. The farangs are using more muscles in speaking and they use often guttural Sound, which is strange for Thais. If Thais want to learn a good pronounciation, they should find someone, who takes their Hands to the gorge, that they can feel it, and who let them look into their mouth, to Show them the Position of the tongue. So unconventional so effectfull.
The difference between the Thai thinking and the Farang thinking, hmmm...
The difference is to be attached on differnet wrong views. The Thais are more heart oriented, the Farangs more mind orienteThe Thais except that life is a mystery, but have a lot of fear about evil spirits, the Farangs are laughing about that, but have forgotten, that they had it too in their childhood and of cause fear of their nightmares, they have supressed it completely into their submind, so the world now is fearless, they mean. Correct would be a middle way here. The Farang is mostly prisoned in a self conviction, which lets him be much more aggressiv, than Thais, who have learned more to be self disciplined in enduring suffering, so they are more respectful,  reserved and much more tolerant. But the influance now in Thailand is that a lot of Thais are forgetting now the family, their safety and wants to copy the Farang System. The end will be the same blended Isolation in which the Farang is living and this will be a Desaster for the new poor generations. The only beware of saftey will be the old traditional Thai System, which the Farang don't understand and normally don't wants to know.

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Re: Thai Language.
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2013, 08:01:54 PM »
Dear Alexander,

It would be just about language. Interested in learning more Thai? Its very rare to get an offer to be taught as a gift in Southeastasia today, like it is in the modern world also gone.

The Asian system of learning is simply repeating and remember, but the more the head is full of thousand thought the lesser this system works.

So can somebody record how to say "Nice to meet you Mr. Alexander" "How are you?" in Thai language? I would love to here it with a German accent and with a Pali accent and I am sure I will remember it a live time after that.

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Re: Thai Language.
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2013, 08:35:31 PM »
Dear Johann.

Of cause you speak german, I have a link for you...
Here you can as lot as you want.
If you search for a word, it's explained, how to fill it in (Thai, German, Soundlanguage), you will get results and you see, how to write it in Thai. The pronounciation is described and if you click onto the Thaiwritten word, than there opens a window and you will here the correctly pronounciation in Thai...

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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2013, 08:49:54 PM »
I really don't know what to do... difficult, really difficult.

Thanks for the link.

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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2013, 09:10:51 PM »
Easy, give in a german word and you get the result. To understand the soundlanguage, there is a description and a link to there.
"Nice to meet you Mr. Alexander" no one says. If I translate it it would be
suai mii popgan gap khun Alek.
They make it different. They say Sowadi kap (woman kha, not kap) that means Hallo thanks. Khun sabbai dii rü kap? Sabbai, sabbai. You feel well thanks? Feel well, feel well thanks. Lagoon na kap, I go now thanks.
But for examples I was looking quickly at the Inet and found this
So you can see the phrases and if you Need the pronounciation, fill in one word in the former link, I'd sent and click to the result word in real Thai language.
So with a study of about 30 minutes you are able to use it in differênt directions, eaysier I'd found no way, sorry, it's the easiest I have and I'd needed one year, to find the link to click Thai but I am happy with it.
Rosetta Stone is one of the best professional Software to learn Thai interactiv, but I'd not wanted to pay for that...

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Re: Thai Language.
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2013, 09:40:45 PM »
With all those links and buy able thinks we really live in a perfect world. It seems that we could live without the burden of being a student and we would not need to wait for the generosity of a teacher or even request.

I used to go join first grade in a village to motivate the kids of our forest village to take up the burden and dont miss the change.

After every letter it was usual to stand up fold the hands and say: "Thanks you Mr. Teacher that I have learned A". The teacher was a not well educated farmer wife, but the important lesson was learned. Not to speak about how the write on a small slate. Nothing to safe and store and direct into the heart.

Difficult today, very difficult. But one should never give up.

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