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2019 Nov 14 22:46:22
Johann: Atma leaves the paranimmita-vasavatti deva and nimmanarati deva now to find good birth by themself, no more power left.

2019 Nov 14 22:00:48
Cheav Villa: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 14 21:39:00
Johann: Duties and Silas are words of same meaning, denoting "proper conduct and giving in ones relations where ne desires to have a good and safe stand"

2019 Nov 14 21:25:51
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 14 21:21:02
Johann: May all have good rest at the end of day, done ones duties or even a blessed done merits after that as well. My person is now off of energy and good to rest as well.

2019 Nov 14 13:43:11
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 14 10:35:51
Johann: Respecting the Devas one gains their respect and protection.

2019 Nov 14 10:34:40
Johann: Bhante. (Meawmane is a spirit from a Server in Bangkok)

2019 Nov 14 10:28:52
Khemakumara: Nyom Meawmane

2019 Nov 14 10:27:53
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2019 Nov 13 20:44:51
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 13 20:28:20
Johann: Bhante  _/\_ Nyom, Nyom

2019 Nov 13 13:19:14
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 13 11:54:18
Johann: Mahā (written), not moha (following civil transliteration of khmer, very unuseful, better following pali transliteration) "Deluded Wisdom Monastery" could be understood while "Great Wisdom Monastery"  :)

2019 Nov 13 10:22:14
Johann: mudita

2019 Nov 13 09:56:41
Cheav Villa: Kana now at Panha Moha Viheara, waiting for  Bhikkuni

2019 Nov 13 09:47:10
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 12 08:01:41
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 12 05:35:02
Khemakumara:  Sīlena nibbutiṁ yanti. Through virtue they go to Unbinding. May it be a fruit-and pathful Uposatha day.

2019 Nov 11 16:41:52
Varado: Happily indeed we live, we, for whom there is [nowhere] anything at all. We will feed on rapture like the Ābhassarā devas. Dh.v.200.

2019 Nov 11 11:40:45
Johann: Ven. Sirs  _/\_ (Kana trust that leave for some rest will not reduce Bhantes releasing joy here)

2019 Nov 11 11:13:48
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 11 11:06:19
Johann: May it be an auspicious end of the Vassa of the Noble ones, a deep Anapanasati day today, for all conducting the full moon uposatha today.

2019 Nov 11 06:00:43
Johann: " Happy/peaceful the area/custom of the Arahats, craving and wandering on having layed aside"?

2019 Nov 11 03:22:11
Johann: Of which would mean what, Lok Ta, if not wishing to use google or not given means?

2019 Nov 10 23:54:03
Varado: Sukhino vata arahanto taṇhā tesaṃ na vijjati _/\_

2019 Nov 10 19:51:07
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Ariyadhammika

2019 Nov 10 17:54:44
Johann: ភនតេ វ៉ាលិ

2019 Nov 10 14:42:47
Johann: Lok Ta  _/\_

2019 Nov 09 16:31:12
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 09 16:25:14
Johann: May Nyom and all have a safe travel

2019 Nov 09 16:03:41
Cheav Villa: Kana and kids Plan to go to Aural tomorrow, will leave Phnom Penh at 5am  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 09 15:41:39
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 09 15:37:40
Johann: Bhante Ariyadhammica, Nyom Villa

2019 Nov 09 15:35:16
Johann: Sadhu

2019 Nov 09 14:56:15
Varado: Homage to the Noble Sangha _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 09 14:55:15
Varado: Blessed is the arising of Buddhas. Blessed is the explaining of the true teaching. Blessed is concord in the community of bhikkhus. Of those in concord, blessed is their practice of austerity.

2019 Nov 09 14:53:06
Johann: Ven Grandfather, Nyom Annaleana,

2019 Nov 09 01:57:47
Moritz: Vandami, Bhante Varado _/\_

2019 Nov 09 01:43:05
Varado: Pūjā ca pūjanīyānaṃ

2019 Nov 09 00:44:14
Johann: Worthy those on path or reached the aim

2019 Nov 08 22:36:29
Varado: Homage to those elder bhikkhus of long-standing who have long gone forth, the fathers and leaders of the Sangha. _/\_

2019 Nov 08 20:16:23
Johann: May the Venerables allow my persons leave, running out of battery.  _/\_

2019 Nov 08 20:09:51
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu!

2019 Nov 08 20:09:14
Varado: Homage to Good Friends. For this is the entire holy life. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 08 20:07:04
Varado: Homage to the Good Friends. For this is the entire holy life. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 08 19:29:09
Varado: Thanks for summary. I send article on milk. Anything else?

2019 Nov 08 18:53:24
Varado: Also greed, hatred, and delusion. Tīni akusalamūlāni: lobho akusalamūlaṃ doso akusalamūlaṃ moho akusalamūlaṃ (D.3.214).

2019 Nov 08 18:36:34
Johann: So does it, so does it, for Bhikkhus, layman, laywoman as well. And what is the root of stinginess? Ingratitude (wrong view).

2019 Nov 08 18:30:56
Varado: Possessing five qualities, a bhikkhuni is deposited in hell as if brought there. What five? She is miserly with dwellings, families, gains, praise, and the Dhamma (A.3.139). Pañcahi bhikkhave dhammehi samannāgatā bhikkhunī yathābhataṃ nikkhittā evaṃ niraye: katamehi pañcahi: Āvāsamaccha

2019 Nov 08 18:23:39
Varado: Macchariya for lodgings, maybe?

2019 Nov 08 18:01:17
Johann: Kana saw that Bhikkhunis has even a rule in regard of macchariya, for Vineyya in their Vinaya.

2019 Nov 08 17:58:14
Johann: So does it dear Ven. Grandfather, so does it. Amacchariya is the domain of the Noble Ones, beginning by the stream to the complete of stinginess's root.

2019 Nov 08 17:51:33
Varado: Having eliminated the stain of stinginess together with its origin, they are beyond criticism.

2019 Nov 08 17:35:15
Johann: ...and "Vineyya maccheramalaṁ samūlaṁ aninditā"

2019 Nov 08 17:29:21
Johann: These Devas and Brahmas...  :) mudita

2019 Nov 08 16:53:41
Varado: May the Buddha bless you. May the Dhamma shine on you. May Wat Ayum be a refuge to many. For any possible help with questions, please email. My pleasure.

2019 Nov 08 13:55:57
Johann: ..."This shows that the Buddha would not be troubled by those who become angry and resentful, but by those who are strongly opinionated and who relinquish their views reluctantly...."

2019 Nov 08 09:27:01
Johann: Ven. Bhantes

2019 Nov 08 09:23:11
Khemakumara:   _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Ariyadhammika

2019 Nov 08 06:26:12
Johann: It was four days after closing that decreased in last instance

2019 Nov 08 06:15:13
Moritz: The bot traffic is not decreasing.

2019 Nov 08 06:15:10
Johann: Ayasma Moritz

2019 Nov 08 06:14:53
Moritz: (was logged in long time before, but not at PC)

2019 Nov 08 06:14:52
Johann: Ayasama Moritz

2019 Nov 08 06:14:06
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 08 02:08:55
Moritz: Sadhu _/\_ May Bhante bear and overcome all sickness well _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 08 02:05:42
Khemakumara: Khantı paramaṁ tapo tītikkhā. Patient forbearance is the highest austerity

2019 Nov 08 02:01:46
Khemakumara: lack of energy because of sickness of the body (boils) Nyom Moritz

2019 Nov 08 01:53:48
Khemakumara: Meister Moritz

2019 Nov 08 01:52:12
Moritz: Hoping Bhante is well _/\_

2019 Nov 08 01:51:55
Moritz: Vandami Bhante (Khemakumara) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 20:02:22
Johann: enery, battery saysfinish for now... may there be food for liberation be found and got touched by many independently.

2019 Nov 07 20:00:16
Johann: Every being, even without capacity to gain higher, is worthy of metta, worthy to be not harmed in existance, worthy to help in times of needing the four paccayas, Ven. Grandfather.

2019 Nov 07 19:37:39
Visitor: Let us treat those with Buddhanature with the respect appropriate to future Buddhas.

2019 Nov 07 19:01:03
Johann: Maybe an inspirig topic on the matter How should I express Mudita or Joy for all beings? for all having access (upanissaya).

2019 Nov 07 18:56:59
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu. That's how mudita is good understood in relation with "Buddhanature"

2019 Nov 07 18:54:52
Visitor: Homage to all those with Buddhanature. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 18:53:59
Visitor:  Homage to all the Buddhas.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 18:28:47
Johann: Dear lok ta Visitor

2019 Nov 07 17:29:02
Cheav Villa:  _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 17:24:12
Johann: Don't worry either, yet perfect if visiting the Nuns. Mudita

2019 Nov 07 17:21:15
Cheav Villa: About the medicin called loṇasociraka, Kana will take time to go to Visit Wat Panha to ask her for detail  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 17:21:05
Johann: Cetana counts, the own one, Nyom.

2019 Nov 07 17:18:42
Johann: May Nyom not worry to much about it. My person guesses Nyom Chanroth might have lot of joy in the idea of planting. While Cacaco is fine, yet not a need or request, it's something that can be gained in shops.

2019 Nov 07 17:09:57
Cheav Villa: Kana now seen without Sila… someone could not tell the truth 

2019 Nov 07 17:01:13
Cheav Villa: Kana ordered 5kg via web, phoned them 2days ago but still no delivery cause of no confirmation since he still abroad now

2019 Nov 07 16:49:17
Cheav Villa: But the Cacao company in Mondolkiri doesnt allowed, they sale Cacao beans.

2019 Nov 07 16:47:38
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ as he informed to bring only Cacao fruits for Bhante could make and use of medecine againts Malaria

2019 Nov 07 16:20:48
Johann: Indeed releasing investigation cause hunger and no food can be expected at the end as well.

2019 Nov 07 16:18:35
Johann: When homeless effort is requested, no joy in sacrificing into it. Oh this monks... of modern world.  :)

2019 Nov 07 16:16:59
Johann: Oh this monks  :) When household effort can be made for favor and house, all engaged...

2019 Nov 07 14:17:18
Johann: Āyasmā Moritz (Master, a usual address for skilled lay people in the Tipitaka)

2019 Nov 06 17:27:06
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2019 Nov 06 17:23:52
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2019 Nov 06 17:23:46
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Nov 06 00:13:12
Vithou:  _/\_

2019 Nov 05 22:47:19
Moritz: Hello Visitor! _/\_

2019 Nov 05 16:44:34
Johann: ...and that is good! Cacao

2019 Nov 05 16:31:04
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ :)

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Contented - Zufriedengestellt
« on: July 23, 2013, 07:27:29 PM »
 *sgift*

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Truly, friends, these two persons are rare in the world. Which two? The one who is contented and the one who satisfies the needs of others.

Truly, friends, these two persons are difficult to be satisfied. Which two? He that collects whatever he gains and he that spends whatever he gains.

Truly, friends, these two persons are easy to satisfy. Which two? He that does not collect whatever he gains and he that does not spend whatever he gains.

Not easy to find and I guess much more difficult in the modern consume world, project world, catalog world with all its endless possibilities and chances.
Actually there is a place where you never should be content and a place where you should be content but as long as we have not turned upward what was turned over, its seen totally contra-verse.

It might be even, that one is unsatisfied, if he/she is not satisfied in his/here modesty.

We put high demands on the standard, that means, we like to have it exactly the way we like and we put less judgement on our mods and perceptions which are causing that demand.
I see it as actually impossible to learn to be contented in a association and surrounding that does not even know such.

Words and explaining would not help out. Where implicitness and "rights" living in the mind of people, there is no place for a sense of gratitude, generosity, gift, and sacrify... possible to grow. Such does not exist any more in such a world and it will just be reborn when it come to plain "surviving" again.

What about you? Have you ever met contented People? Have you ever lived on just what is needed and given?

Have you ever tried to satisfy content people and also people with high demands?

I really can understand such "troubles" as to order and buy a washing machine in advanced, on credit and call for support and donations afterward. In this way, the "giver" and the "receiver" in this upward turned world are sure to be content and even both believe that they have done a great deed. Not easy.
Is it even possible to satisfy somebody with a wish?

What do you thing. Is it possible to teach generosity and contentment for somebody who does not have such virtue him/herself? Is it even teach-able or is it something which can only be adopted if it is realized by one self?

Many questions on the entrance of the Dhamma.

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“Wahrlich, Freunde, diese zwei Personen findet man schwer in der Welt. Welche zwei? Jene, die selbst zufrieden ist und jene, die andere zufrieden stellt. Diese zwei Personen findet man nur schwer in der Welt."

"Wahrlich, Freunde, diese zwei Personen sind schwer zufrieden zu stellen. Welche zwei? Jener, die behält was auch immer sie bekommt und jene, die alles verbraucht was auch immer sie bekommt."

"Wahrlich, Freunde,, diese zwei Personen sind leicht zufrieden zu stellen. Welche zwei? Jene, die nichts behält was auch immer sie bekommt und jene, die nichts verschwendet was auch immer sie bekommt.

Also nicht leicht zu finden und ich denke noch schwerer in der modernen Welt, Projektwlet, Katalogwelt, mit all seinen unendlichen Möglichkeiten und Chancen.
In Wahrheit ist da ein Platz, an dem man nie zufrieden sein sollte und ein Platz and dem man zufrieden sein sollte, aber sollange man nicht umgedreht hat, was verdreht war, ist es völlig Ungekehrt.

Da mag man sogar unzufrieden sein, wenn man nicht in seiner Bescheidenheit befriedigt wird

Wir stellen hohe Ansprüche an die Standards, das heißt, wir wollen es genau so haben wie wir es uns vorstellen und wir geben unseren Vorstellungen und Launen, die unsere Ansprüche erzeugen, wenig kritische Betrachtung.
Ich sehe es als nahezu unmöglich Bescheidenheit und Zufriedenheit  im Zusammenleben und einer Umgebung wo soetwas nicht gekannt wird zu erlernen.
Da helfen keine Worte und Erklärungen, dort wo Selbstverständlichkeit und "Rechte" in den Köpfen der Menschen leben, kann kein Gefühl von Dankbarkeit, Großzügigkeit, Gabe, Opfer... aufkommen. Das existiert in so einer Welt nicht mehr und kommt erst wieder zur Geburt, wenn es wirklich wieder ums "Überleben" geht.

Wie steht es bei Ihnen? Haben Sie je zufriedene Menschen getroffen? Haben Sie je von dem gelebt, was ihnen gegeben wird und was sie wirklich benötigen?

Also ich kann solche "Probleme" wie etwas das Bestellen und kaufen einer Waschmaschine im voraus oder auf Pump und dann nach Hilfe und Spenden aufzurufen gut verstehen. In dieser Weise sind sich der "Geber" und der "Erhälter" in dieser verdrehten Welt sicher befriedingt und zufrieden zu sein und glauben gar das sie eine gute Tat vollbracht haben. Nicht leicht.
Ist es überhaupt möglich, jemanden mit Wünschen zu befriedigen?

Was glaubt ihr, kann jemand Großzügigkeit und Zufriedenheit lehren, der diese Tugenden selbst nicht besitzt. Kann man das überhaupt lehren oder ist das etwas, das man nur dann annehmen kann, wenn man es selbst erkannt hat?

Viele Fragen am Eingangstor des Dhammas.


 :-*

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Re: Contented - Zufriedengestellt
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2013, 07:46:25 PM »
Thank you.

Danke.


Difficult indeed today.
A lot for me to learn.

 :-*

actually, in my family, this "living on wishes" and demand has grown to proportions where it is hard to get out.
And I have actually been quite on the forefront with this in some crooked way.  <.I.>:sad:
So seeing how others follow one's own bad example, it can be really horrifying. And when no one is setting a good example anymore there will be no good way left anymore to learn from.
But of course, one who has destroyed so much for himself, he may not even see how much good there is left still for others and appreciate this. Or he is easily full of hope in such things without proper understanding.
The good ways are mostly invisible, it seems...
I am glad that here some such things can become visible.
It is surely hard work and not easy enjoyment.

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