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Gabe von Medizin, Jeṭṭha 2561/Mai 2017
« on: May 29, 2017, 04:12:21 AM »
Gerade kamen zwei Frauen zur Unterkunft meiner Person hochgeeilt, und verneigten sich. Die Höhle verlassen, und am freien Medi-Felsen Platz genommen, folgten die zwei Frauen, und eine packte Arzneidinge aus schwerer Ledertasche aus. Gefragt ob sie Arzt sei, antwortete sie: "Der Dorfchef hat mich gerufen, um nach Ihnen zu sehen, da er Angst habe Ehrw. Großvater habe grun chan (Malaria; grun~ Grippe, chan = Verloren/Besiegt, oder von canda = Mond ?)." (die "Devas" von Gestern hatten wohl den Dorfchef noch getriffen, und Maria s Engelbekanntschaften nachgeholfen ) Sie packte dann Nadel und Messgerätschaft aus, und bat nahm entschuldigend den Zeigefinger, um etwas Blut zu entnehmen, tat es in ihr Messgerät und füllte Flüssigkeit dazu. Nach drei, vier Minuten, die Skala darauf betrachtend, sagte sie: "Grun Chan!" Reichte 6 Tabletten, 2 pro Tag, drei Tage einnehmen. "In drei Tagen ist es wieder gut."
Die Ärztin wollte noch stärkende Infusion geben, da jedoch genug Elektolyte und Tonics, lehnte Atma ab. Sie und die Führerein, eine Frau die öfter auf dem verlassenen Grundstück, zwischen Ashram und Dorfstraße, verbringt, verabschiedeten sich dann höflich, erfreut und sich noch immer über Atmas Aussage: "Das ist Dhammajati ("natürlich")", nach der Diagnose, und gingen.
(Nun ist Atma so informiert, daß er annehmen kann, zumindest seit 5, 6 Jahren Malaria zu haben, dessen Symptome so zwei bis drei Mal, in kürzerer Dauer, im Jahr, aufkommen)

Mögen an Lebewesen Anteil haben können, sich an den Handlungen der Geber, Helfern und Diener mitzuerfreuen und deren Verdienste damit anerkennen. Mögen die Devas all jene informieren, die weder die Handlungen beobachtet noch davon gehört haben.

Sadhu und Anumodana puñña kusala.


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Antw:Gabe von Medizin, Jeṭṭha 2561/Mai 2017
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2017, 07:34:30 AM »
Werter Bhante,
möchten sie nicht vielleicht doch europäische Hilfe annehmen. Würde dann großen Bruder informieren. Gibt nämlich verschiedene Arten von Malaria. Könnte hier besser ausgeheilt werden.
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Antw:Gabe von Medizin, Jeṭṭha 2561/Mai 2017
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2017, 08:04:54 AM »
Sadhu, Nyom Maria .

Sehr umsichtig. Im Großen und ganzen ist es ja hier schon so im Griff wie Grippe und ja fast Tagessache. Gibt kaum bis keine Person hier, die dies nicht hat, hatte. Vor 50 Jahren und ab von Medizin, oft schlimm. Selbst Labors und Spezialisten gibt es hier genug. Gar nicht zu sprechen von Kosten. Waren Arzt, Reise, Test und Medikatent hier vielleicht in Rahmen von 20-50$, wäre dieses in Europa schon mit dem ersten Formular verbraucht und ginge in die 1.000ende € an Realkosten.
Vergesse man nicht, daß Fonds und Mittel der Allgemeinheit und Beihilfen für jederman nicht annehmbar sind und werden. Sprich auch Krankenpflege, Medizin und alles rund herum muß privat gegeben sein.
Das steht in keinem Verhältnis. Mit diesen Mitteln können Sie sehr viele Jahre, sehr viele Mönche mit Medizin versorgen.

Vergesse Nyom Maria jedoch nicht, daß ein bloßer guter Gedanke Ursache für Frücht in der Zukunft ist, und unweigerlich auf einen zurückfällt.

Heute schon etwas Kraft und scheinbar wirkt die Medizin. Morgen sollten alle Symptome vorüber sein, so die Ärztin, die es gerade in der "Grippewelle" täglich abwickelt.

Kurzes Leben, langes Leben, stets gesund, viel krank... das sind keine Dinge, die von Medizin abhängig sind, selbst wenn alles da und Bestens, oder nichts da, diese Dinge sind Auswirkungen von früheren Taten und Tendenzen. (Oh... Nyom Sophon fragt gerade nach Befinden via SMS)

Umsichtig, Zuvorkommend und Freigibig ist gut, Nyom Maria, doch für den Fall wenn's zu oder aus Sorgen und Angst ist, entspringt, wäre es allemal ungeschickt und hat keinen weisen und einfühlenden Ursprung, fesselt und bindet.

Beste Grüße und Wünsche, auch an alle anderen.

Anumodana
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2017, 03:10:30 PM »
 _/\_
Freut uns zu hören, das es besser geht.
Peter meinte auch, dass sich Sachen dort wo es sie immer gab, mit Sicherheit besser heilen und behandeln lassen.
Beste Wünsche und Grüße von allen
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2017, 01:13:27 PM »
Anlaß seiend, stellt Atma sich die Frage, ob dieses Medicament nur einen Aubruch dämmt, oder ob es sein kann von einer anderen Sorte, ähnlich wie Grippe, abermals betroffen zu sein.

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Gabe von Medizin, Ende Āsāḷha 2561/Anfang Juli 2017
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2017, 09:01:11 PM »

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Ein oder mehrer Beiträge wurden hier im Thema abgeschnitten und damit in neues Thema "Gabe von Medizin, Ende Āsāḷha 2561/Anfang Juli 2017 " eröffnet. Bitte scheuen Sie nicht davor zurück, etwaigen Rat oder Kritik dazu mitzuteilen.  Viel Freude und Inspiration auch im neuen Thema. Anumodana!

One or more posts have been cut out of this topic here. A new topic, based on it, has been created as "Gabe von Medizin, Ende Āsāḷha 2561/Anfang Juli 2017 " . Please do not hesitate to claim or give supporting hints.  Much joy and inspiration also in the new Topic. Anumodana!
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Moritz

October 22, 2018, 06:42:41 PM
May Bhante have a peaceful evening/night.
_/\_
 

Johann

October 22, 2018, 05:49:48 PM
Nyom Moritz
 

Moritz

October 22, 2018, 05:48:48 PM
Vandami Bhante _/\_
 

Johann

October 22, 2018, 09:00:29 AM
Nyom Roman.
 

Johann

October 20, 2018, 02:52:14 AM
Atma leaves for alms round, Nyom Villa.
 

Johann

October 17, 2018, 06:01:23 PM
May all spend meritorious/good and higher last hours of this Sila-day.

Sokh chomreoun (may well being be developed [by everyone])
 

Johann

October 16, 2018, 03:15:10 PM
Nyom Roman.
 

Johann

October 12, 2018, 04:13:16 PM
Good to see Nyom Norum.
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 10:38:10 AM
Maybe of support for lasting satifaction: Seeds of Becoming .
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 06:57:38 AM
When ever love arises, dislike will be it's end. Who ever seeks out for friends, will get his enemy. Why? Because not willing to leave home. May wanderer gus find the way to never return. Mudita

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:58 AM
Vandami.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:22 AM
Nevertheless my courage of active participation  has been fallen down. Anyway I hope to come time to time.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam khamata me bhante.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:37:11 AM
Okasa bhante,

I didn't accepted Dymitros invitation to start a Theravada forum, because I thought this forum is pure Theravada. Now I regret about it, yet think this forum is comparatively good.  I learnt many valuable things from you and grateful to you. Nevertheless my courage of active partici
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 02:20:29 AM
What ever one searches for, that he/she will find. Less are those seeing the nature of combined thing, leaving home and go beyond Maras domain.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:45:18 PM
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:39:12 PM
When one is born in outer regions ... your island has drifted away.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:30:00 PM
macchariya, a boarder hard to cross to the middle way, abounding home, sakayaditthi, doubt and rituals.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:33:02 PM
However much one say, West is West, East is East.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 02:28:29 PM
Where ever there is east, there is west. And vici versa. Where ever there is nama, there is rupa. Where ever one seeks for a home, there he will suffer.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:03:31 PM
West is West

gus

October 06, 2018, 09:56:42 AM
belief of kamma, gratitude, independence, honesty, devotion : These are hard to find in people
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:49:14 AM
Again, a latin proverb mit be useful: Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi , patisota is always harmful if not just one own defilements or having a proper stand to help. Sota is the virtue required to resist in borderlands.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:41:52 AM
If in a borderland it's better to simply serve and support the Sangha. It's not smart to seek for other householders to nurish on traced imperfections of something required to uphold, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 04:54:48 AM
Okasa, happy to hear such things reagarding kamma. Many monks I have met don't directly speak about kamma because they have been tired after practicing some years and now bit relaxed.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:17:26 AM
Such can be total kusala and total akusala or simply defuse. Set your mind right and be mindful, that nothing will be of harm for yourself and others.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:15:27 AM
There is nothing not permitted. Merits or demerits are the actors responsibility. One is full in charge of ones action in this Domain here, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 03:50:00 AM
Bhante, is it permitted to ask questions or post things on behalf of other/future people ?

gus

October 05, 2018, 09:19:32 AM
We have been advised like this:
"No matter however much monks reject you,
Never leave the place."
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 09:09:37 AM
It's good when wanderer gus takes a rest, turns to a lonly place, enjoys the merits done and find a good place for his mind and fixes possible open wholes when clear where he likes to go some hours later.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 08:59:03 AM
Wanderer Gus knows how foolish this statement is. That is not the way to get out of a hole.

gus

October 05, 2018, 08:42:59 AM
okasa,
falling down from a status is suffering.
So, if I could stay in the hell-being status from the beginning, then no suffering.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:33:20 AM
From a state of a young Bhikkhu equal tradition...to householder... ...asura (now) on the border to animal, peta, hell-state. It can go quick if not having firm nissaya.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:29:27 AM
Aniccam vatta samsara...

gus

October 05, 2018, 06:56:28 AM
Evolution:
Bhante subhuti =>
Upasaka gus =>
Deva gus =>
Asura gus.

In the future:
Asura gus =>
Peta gus =>
Animal gus =>
Hell-being gus ???

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:51:42 AM
Okasa, I think bhante thinks me as a patriot because of some content of my posts. But it is not.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 05:41:33 AM
What ever one likes to, not touched like the moon, does not mean to praise what is blameworthy and vici-versa and to have metta not to let people run into hell if ways can be pointed out. Yet other choices at least are their. Be quick, your island drifts away!

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:34:15 AM
Okasa,
As long as I don't do exactly what you say, I think I'll not be able to make you happy or satisfied.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 02:12:55 PM
If thinking that this is for sure, if delighting in believing that connected things are a refuge and give space to rest: one may do so. Ones own choice. When ever one stops to nurish inwardly, ouwardly path and fruits die. Good as well as bad.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:28:51 AM
If bhante didn't let the weak person to live in avatar/deva mode, then he will lose both openness and connection. Up to now I have secured at least the connection.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:22:24 AM
Yet I appreciate and pay vandana for your care and advice on openness.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:19:56 AM
Please forgive me  bhante if I have made you tired. I don't like to accumulate akusala by making a monk tired in expecting a naughty chicken to be a good duck.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam Khamtu me bhante!
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:07:06 AM
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
Differnt asked "why is Bhante not happy, dwell not in outwardly seeming being not touched?" Because it would not only confirm and show sign of aggreement of unwise acts, but also very incompassionate and cruel. Also place for suspecting corrupt ways and invite others to follow the comfortable dwelli
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:54:12 AM
No one is able to make my person angry, which does not mean that he would not appear angry so to possible prevent from doing what is not conductive for liberation, even lead in lower states. Nothing to worry, but also no invitation to test it foolish since it could hurt one self and others.

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:46:39 AM
Okasa bhante, Isn't there at least single way to stay anonymous without making you angry?
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:33:12 AM
corr: "it's, the domain of the Noble Ones, is nobody's personal domain" there are no wards around fields for merits and no tickets to pay
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:29:31 AM
What ever Deva gus feels inspired. It's oneones personal domain and all giving is good in the distance of the brigh cool moon. One should not fear, should not be shy to do what is good and praised by the wise but be quick!

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:21:39 AM
Bhante, is that mean you don't like me to talk about higher subjects and like to talk about basics only?
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:02:12 AM
It would be more than good if teaching others a lot on the topic vandami (paying respect) and khamatu (asking for forgiviness) since unknown and not practiced here around this field of merits in compassion to former relatives, Deva gus.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
...total no problem to dwell and lay down in the cool shadow to heal at all and no need to ask for pardon when intended for progressing and to get fit for the battles so hard to win.

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