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Author Topic: Peasal's off-cuttings when ever meeting people with more faith as him  (Read 349 times)

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Another time my person feels the need to express a rebuke torward Pesala. Since my person was not able to take on an account yesterday and post it on DW directly, one might feel that he/she acts conductive in bringing the message to certain attentions:

In regard of a devoted persons humble request: I believe I have achieved stream-entry.

Quote from: Pesala there
No one can or should confirm it for you. Without the ability to read minds, another person could only make an intelligent guess that maybe it is so, based on your reports of your meditation experiences, and observing your conduct after living with you for a long time.

The last time that I was staying at Mahāsi Yeikthā, there was an Indian bhikkhu practising there with me and other foreign meditators. We used to eat at the same table, and the two of us were usually the last to finish the meal. On one hot day, I finished my meal, walked slowly back to my accommodation block (a good distance), washed out my robes, washed the floor of the corridor outside my room, and looked out of the window to see the Indian monk returning from the dining hall. He practised in this way for seven months, doing all daily activities extremely mindfully. He was usually the first in the meditation room in the morning (before 4:00 am), and the last to leave (after 10:00 pm). From his reports to the meditation instructor, I guessed from my theoretical knowledge that he might have attained to Stream-winning, and I asked our meditation instructor about this. He neither confirmed nor denied it.

In Mahāsi Yeikthā, the meditation instructors who think that students have made good progress, let them listen to a discourse on the Progress of Insight before leaving the meditation centre, so that they can assess their own progress.

Note that insight into not-self occurs quite early in the progress of insight. By the relatively early stage of Purification by Overcoming Doubt the insight will be very clear, and one's faith in the Buddha will be unshakeable. One will become a committed Buddhist.

Torward Pesala and the 'fellows' in his way on DW:

Pesala, how can you say "No one can or should confirm it for you.", althought you added some afterwards?

It's not right and it's pretty stingy behaviour to constantly cut of any joy and aspiration of mudita and sharing merits and you that very often.

If no idea or not sure, why not simply follow your mentioned teachers way and simply stay silent. Some people around here follow your "western" dhamma-without-any-joy-and-sharing-merits-and-encourage-such-way. Death enough all this "Buddhist"-meeting places.

It's is good to help with all possible ways so that one could prove it for him/herself and in regard of sharing and it's also good to bring people down sometimes.

There are less till no such as "allowences" the Buddha gave to lay people, but one is, if a householder wishes to declare his attaining of having entered the stream, he/she should do so (note that he did not really taught lay people in detail and generally, of what he was for sure aware at the same time).

This "rebuke" should be also seen as encouragement for all others here. Are you here to pull each other down or to lift and help to lift each other up? Are you here to practice the Uposatha of the Ariyas or to practice like most that of the Jains?

What do you like to take as reverence to lift your self up? You inabilities or your Deva equal attributes?

Do you really think that you gain anything by silly sitting and meditate with all your frustrations and full of graspholding defilements without losen and put them aside first? What will you remember when you are up to die? "They told me that I am not a stream enterer and that I have no reason to seek for joy."

What do you think are the effects of running faceless around with "Aloka" or "Nibbuti" or what ever avatars, teaching people while banner teacher at the same time, speak of free and no-boundries" while maintaining frontier castles everywhere? But what ever possible advertising in your store window letting people believe "I know, I have" while telling them at the same time, if they would only look like as having joy with themself, that a good does not speak about his goodness.

That is foolish.

So my person really urge you to start to practice simply the basics such as generosity, paying respect, doing service, sharing merits, assisting in good work, giving Sadhus... e.g. all that is conductive to straighten ones view, and step more away of all that stuff that is really to far away for the most, yet not even able in practicing the basics.

Quote from: todays resumee of the questioner
Thank you, friend. I am actually reading as we speak. I no longer believe I am a sotapanna. I hope the thread can provide understandings for future Buddhists.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2017, 07:39:46 AM by Johann »
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Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

"Sariputta, when you know of a householder clothed in white, that he is restrained in terms of the five training rules and that he obtains at will, without difficulty, without hardship, four pleasant mental abidings in the here & now, then if he wants he may state about himself: 'Hell is ended; animal wombs are ended; the state of the hungry shades is ended; states of deprivation, destitution, the bad bourns are ended! I am a stream-winner, steadfast, never again destined for states of woe, headed for self-awakening!'

And, what do you think about Upasakas in regard of "without difficulty, without hardship, four pleasant mental abidings in the here & now" reading him and like Mkoll certainly had observed? Ohh this wester "meditator" and their teacher...
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my person will leave for today and rests. There have been left some hard challenges (sure for many). May they be releasing taken and increase conviction.
 

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March 19, 2018, 05:20:12 AM
This "wiki"-like backup tool is meant as a outwardy insurance that one does not be afraid that anything possible good can be desroyed or made bad while looking for cleaning it. So worry at all, kamma does not dissapear. No need to fear to make good deeds, knowing that.
 

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And there is no intention to just make a museum out of a working and concentration camp, since the Dhamma can not be understood by just looking on forms but by learning and experiance skillful deeds.
 

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Post-history: http://sangham.net/index.php/topic,1164.0.html (but there is no notification system). My person uses to make a @mention , off topic "/me" in the OP.
 

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March 19, 2018, 03:49:28 AM
Or to simply make a new post. No need to be shy in doing good things. It's not a museum, it's a working and concentration place. Mudita.
 

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There is such as a "wiki" backup function in all posts, Nyom Danilo. Good is to use the mention option, at the places where making changes @Johann , that it gets not "lost".
 

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March 19, 2018, 03:02:46 AM
I have a backup of the original post in any case. I might review the second post next time. Very insightful teaching. _/\_
 

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I've recently fixed many words and sentences of the first post of the thread "Debts, but to whom?". It take me some time trying to figure out the meaning of some sentences. So it would be good if Bhante could check if the original intended meaning of the post still intact. I have a backup of the ori
 

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One leading to peaks pointing downward so that aging, sickness and death can be seen, know him/her as a sage, a giver of release.
 

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One leading people to papanca, promoting rejoicing in objectification as the heart wood, increases to fields of corpse in the world.

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