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Monks and Nuns on D&D - Sutta Central
« on: September 24, 2017, 02:39:35 PM »
It was of course foreseeable that this place will grow to a huge respectless in regard of the Juwels place, as leaded so.

So just that the/a certain Sangha has the possibility to bring those idiots back in line, just see the new flames behind the leaders Sujato, Brahma, Brahmali...

Paccittiya 8 & teaching laity

It's just disappointing and shameful to see how those fools act in puplic, disrespecting really everything and doing their Sg13-party.

Sutta-decentral...

The new co-corrupter Dhammarakkhita was rebuked serial times via email, but so Vinaya is not really a matter, ignored he even runned wilder. And now not only corrupting the lay people there, but flirting with doubtful nuns, here with vimalanyani , the one without Nissaya , taking respectlessness against Dhamma-Vinaya as their Vehicle...

Pointless... and as told, each support of this Devadatta leaded undertaking is really wasted effort and sacrify.

Me really wonders how some smart seeming lay people there can still be silent, actually seeing clearly already.

It's a drug-cave, so as the poll on drugs and views on it shows . "Ex"-Hippi-assembling.

No idea if the Nonnen von Anenja have any ways or even desire to act. The monk is also hopeless lost in pc 4.

Me does not need to talk about Bhikkhunis following outsider Bhikkhus and its effect.

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Re: Monks and Nuns on D&D - Sutta Central
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2017, 05:07:36 PM »
Holly! And what is this: http://buddhistsocietysa.org.au/

A "Bhikkhuni" and another "Anagarikini" Pasanna, leading such as a The Buddhist Sociaty (eg. Sangha)... of South Australia.

Anagarika at Dakkhina Dhammatthala nuns vihara and secretary of the Buddhist Society of South Australia.

That's really "sodom and gomorrah" over there in S- Australia, to use western familary words.

Welcome Samvega!

Not to speak about those Sri Lankan Monks here, going for Alms together with woman...

Upcoming Pindapatas:

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Friday 17th November,
Friday 15th December

Welcome to this bottomless hole... it will be really "funny" on this earth soon...

Ayya Santacārī?
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Re: Monks and Nuns on D&D - Sutta Central
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2017, 05:05:54 AM »
And so they go one , even warned and rebuked, respectless without shame, in company and leaded by their foolish monks... dancing shameless in the puplic, promoting there incapacity to be something of value, common, good to go after.


Activists from the women's rights organisation Femen shout slogans outside Notre-Dame de Paris Cathedral in Paris February 12, 2013. (Reuters/Charles Platiau), https://www.rt.com/news/femen-topless-action-pope-034/

And having done their improper livelihood, having taught to do not respect of what might be sublime, they, themselves get what they gave, having invested in the like-alike...

Reaction to article in Boeddhistisch Dagblad

That is why the Buddha told, that what ever knowledge a fool gains it is for his/her own destruction and association with fools leads to suffering and pain.

Beginning with disrespect against small rules, quick as quick can be, one will fall down.

It is not so that fools, as long it serves the hunger of other fools, get no support, merely the opposite. That's the nature of the world. And therer is no way to help themand those by tendecy bound to them. Making each other for the time last just favors.

Being and becoming Buddhadasas, yet the Buddha rejected slaves and gospels as well:

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The Buddha, here representing the true teaching, is being attacked by three monks and one laymen. The fact that there is only one layman attacking the teachings indicates that many monks, once having been ordained in the order, continue to follow false path and are attached to ceremony. They are indifferent to the true teachings and prefer the Wheel of Wandering-on to Nibbāna.

(Monks, as they are more conspicuous than layman and because they are supposed to be devoting their lives to the Three Gems, and because it is known that they have many precepts to keep pure, can attack the Dhamma by misconduct in a more violent way than is possible for laypeople)

Of cource they give each other ordination, no matter how shameless, no matter how wrong, a "crow does not pick out the eye of another crow" a proverb says, in regard of their ways and livelihood.

It's for the destruction of those having littles or less faith, of what this "heros" and worthless monks and nuns do for they bellys sake, livelihood and for becoming.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

"Tell those bhikkhus not to destroy the faith and generosity of the lay disciples by misconduct and if anyone should disobey, drive him out of the monastery. Do not hesitate to do as I told you, for only fools dislike being given good advice and being forbidden to do evil."
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Re: Monks and Nuns on D&D - Sutta Central
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2017, 08:39:52 AM »
Even thought that it is good that not all lay people accept the discrespectful behaviour and certain "political" undertaking made by SC's monks and nuns, my person doubt that they would show respectful reaction if rebuked by lay peoole directly:

Please provide the procedure for me to file a formal complaint against the entire Suttacentral staff regarding the unfair treatment and discrimination against me. You folks have been consistently shutting down my protest against Bhikkhuni Vimalanyani for her serious disrespect of the Buddhist Monastic code by using language inappropriate of a monastic while describing the Vinaya. I have the right to raise this to the board of directors and all financial contributors who have been providing support to this web site. They have the right to know how Suttacentral staff treat their forum members before they can make informed decisions on whether to continue to provide financial support to this site or not. The fact that you have erased all of my posts using the “moderation by the mob” approach is utterly unfair and inappropriate. Thank you.

The pressure of corruption on the other side, since living and existing in improper dependency with householders "paying" their work actually...

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I have the right to demand the board of directors to review this whole matter

As a member of the board of directors, I can assure you that you have no such right. You do, however, have the responsibility to maintain community standards and abide by our rules. The guidelines that you have agreed to include the following:

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Responding well to admonition is regarded as a basic sign of integrity in Dhamma communication. If you respond with anger, insults or by attacking the admonisher, other users, the site, or those running it, expect to find yourself permanently banned.
If you would like to have any donations refunded, we will gladly do so. However we will not tolerate attacks on our staff and volunteers.

Corrupt ways, even if looking easy and like honey first for the fools, will give much pain when it's fruits rippe.

From other treads:

SC admins already removed 2 of my posts on the “Thought experiment - a genderless vinaya” thread. And all I did was pointing out the fact that Ayya Vimalanyani, despite being a full-time Buddhist nun has repeatedly shown disrespect toward the Buddhist Code of discipline, the Vinaya. “Subjugating women” is her go-to word for describing the Vinaya. Remember Suttacentral is a world wide web forum where not only SC members visit this site, but readers from the whole wide world are visiting this site 24/7. By shutting me down, SC has sent a very clear message to the whole wide world about the sad state of 21st century Buddhism: you are not allowed to criticize a Buddhist monk or nun for his or her wrongdoing. You will get shut down while s/he can go on insulting the very robe s/he’s wearing. The truth might be piercing and bitter, but it is still the truth nonetheless. A bitter pill is difficult to swallow, but if one does not take it, his illness will get worse, much much worse.

A run-of-the-mill showing no respect to the Vinaya is not a surprise at all. But a professional monastic showing no respect is quite a shock. For crying out loud, s/he had to take the Triple Gem refuge vow in a formal ceremony which included the acceptance of all necessary terms and conditions before being allowed to put on that sacred orange robe! So if s/he now shows any disrespect toward the Triple Gem, s/he had in fact betrayed that original sacred vow and the very robe s/he is wearing. If s/he’s not able to uphold the very Vinaya s/he had promised to uphold during the ceremony, then the only honorable way left to do is to disrobe, go back to civilian life, and stop wasting precious tax-payers’ money.
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Re: Monks and Nuns on D&D - Sutta Central
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2017, 07:06:44 AM »
Generally maybe useful t understand issues like "discrimination" of "not so gifted" like woman ordinatin, sick, people "very different" and why a disciple and a master is different, why it is unwise to take on others rightly gained liberality. Setting one self on the level on the Buddha (like people love to play Gods), is noting but fundamental disrespect.

Some words having just came accross:

Commentary: Monks, one shouldn’t ...”: The Blessed One is himself the master of the Dhamma[5]. So, laying down a training rule, he said this for the monks not to do (such an action) in the future.

5. Here is a case where the Buddha knew when to ordain a famous criminal, but didn’t trust the Saṅgha to do so. As in the case of displaying psychic powers, the Buddha was able to do certain things, to good effect, that he didn’t allow his disciples to do. That means that in interpreting the Vinaya, one cannot take the Buddha’s example as evidence that a given action is or should be allowable.

The matter of tendencies of monks and nuns involved is Sutta (de) central has not only be shown and is visible for everyone, but can not ignored for the sake of gain or to supports ones personal desires.

The respectless undertaking, as a matter of nature, is not only the biggest thief ever in this world, but also the greates undertaking to demontage the juwels and replace them with Devadattas objectives.

Of course it is a matter of nature that unwise follow fools, not easy to convice, but who ever might have the change to get not a little involved, in this undertaking void of wisdom and conduct, does a good, as well as it is a matter of kamma, that one who blames what has to be blamed, is destinated to the above realms while agreement, even support of what lacks of worthyness at all, leads to bad destinations. This is the law of kamma, the law of nature.

So be wise if having the "luck", while not having seen for your self before, and follow a seldom uncensured advice, having come across. Beings are heirs of there deeds, there tendencies in association.

An if thinking "poor we are, we need it, what 'google' makes for use..." remember the pig munika .

Who, when not really confused, would ever have only little envy torward wrong doers, even if looking wealth at the moment, knowing cause and effect...?
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