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Tiny little dhammic story of Merits and Upanissaya
« on: October 17, 2017, 09:45:19 AM »
Yesterday "accidently" coming accross a topic in an Cambodian Expats forum "About becoming a Monk". A tiny story of "accidents" and merits, sure worthy to share for those able to rejoice with it.

Quote from: Someone asking
Just out of curiosity, have any of you seen any Western Buddhist monks in Cambodia? There are quite a few of them in Thailand, but what about Cambodia? And where would be the best place to get information about this?

Quote from: A Wester, seemingly a little more familiar answering
About 6-7 years ago there was an older white guy Monking it in Daun Penh for about a year or so. Not sure which Pagoda he was attached to, but I haven't seen him since. I saw a white Monk near Phnom Aural (or used to be) last time I went (locals told me about him and I accidentally saw him on my way out). I actually bought a water bottle and juice for the the locals to give to him when he was doing alms, as he was the real deal in terms of religion/meditation. Barefoot and speechless in a tiny remote Cambodian village. Obviously out there to find himself in a good way and quite serious about it all. Totally absorbed in it.

Quote from: another, more involved, coming accross in addition
Off-topic: Since it is in many regard a 1 under ten-thousand happening, it ssemed for person to be a reason to let probably others take part on the posters merits. ("accidently coming accross")

It's very seldom that someone comes across a monk and it even more seldom that a "western" or "modern" person get's aware. So my person can just remember one of this kind.

It was noisy these days. Dirt-bikers enjoyed the bad roads of the wood transports from the area. Once walking till the upper village for alm a group just crossed the village, and yes, jumping from one mud hole to the other of this village it's not easy to get part on that dirt when such a group crosses. Some villagers, after they had crossed asked, of course terrible exited: "Ven. Sir. Are you also able to do that? Have you done such cool stuff?", and my person just had the picture of children jumping into the dirt in the middle of people in my mind. Given oldage, sickness and death are quite near, especially when playing with it, there was less ground for any approve, but just "how 'lucky' some are". My person had to think on a good old friend, a "fanatic" dirt biker: "what if he would come accross on such a journey?"

How, ever, some days later, my person was again on his daily alms round, a single person, seemingly the/a leader of the group, seemed to take his leave, crossing, standing tall on the noisy maschine, having a mood if leaving something beloved behind.

Having crossed, this large person suddenly change his kind of mind state, seemingly touched of having become aware of a Samana , now not used and familiar of such at all. His stepping down form his bike was not only a physical thing, but short but deep release and stepping on the earth with the whole of his heart. Something that very seldom for people at large, even in the country of wonders.

Obiviously not able to break outwardly habits and signs, the large man, visible wounded in many regards did what he not easy was used to do and ordered the recluse to be given some drinks to a young villager. Before coming near, looking short back, he stepped back on his bike and drove down the road in the departing mood as before.

Es war ein sehr bewegendes Ereignis, Grund für Mitfreude an solch gewinnbringender Handlung des Geben.

Since all of this, incl. this here happening post is really something very seldom and auspicious, it was thought that it might "justify" a not so proper approach on a no so proper place, to give not only a "late" encouragement and approve for such a deed, but also to let all those who are able to rejoice with this and gladen their mind with it, let take part.

Much mudita again, with the blessed dirt biker, in the case my person is right in assuming meeting him again here.

On topic: Cambodia is not really a country where one could easily become monk so that it has aslo benefit, not only for western, but it is maybe one of the last places where the so called holly life" can be lived. It's all a matter of kamma (deeds), a matter of "upanissaya" (strong condition) which ways are possible for the individual. There are places and good monks, but very seldom to meet. So it's really not a matter that could be given in general. If interested, having questions, my person thinks it might be the best to look for possible satisfaction.here.

metta & mudita

May all Beings have a share, rejoice with the merits having been done there, may the Devas inform those not having heared and seen about.
Anumodana!
This post and Content has come to be by Dhamma-Dana and so is given as it       Dhamma-Dana: Johann

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Re: Tiny little dhammic story of Merits and Upanissaya
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2017, 10:42:02 AM »
 _/\_ wunderbar _/\_  anumodana _/\_

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Moritz

October 22, 2018, 06:42:41 PM
May Bhante have a peaceful evening/night.
_/\_
 

Johann

October 22, 2018, 05:49:48 PM
Nyom Moritz
 

Moritz

October 22, 2018, 05:48:48 PM
Vandami Bhante _/\_
 

Johann

October 22, 2018, 09:00:29 AM
Nyom Roman.
 

Johann

October 20, 2018, 02:52:14 AM
Atma leaves for alms round, Nyom Villa.
 

Johann

October 17, 2018, 06:01:23 PM
May all spend meritorious/good and higher last hours of this Sila-day.

Sokh chomreoun (may well being be developed [by everyone])
 

Johann

October 16, 2018, 03:15:10 PM
Nyom Roman.
 

Johann

October 12, 2018, 04:13:16 PM
Good to see Nyom Norum.
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 10:38:10 AM
Maybe of support for lasting satifaction: Seeds of Becoming .
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 06:57:38 AM
When ever love arises, dislike will be it's end. Who ever seeks out for friends, will get his enemy. Why? Because not willing to leave home. May wanderer gus find the way to never return. Mudita

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:58 AM
Vandami.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:22 AM
Nevertheless my courage of active participation  has been fallen down. Anyway I hope to come time to time.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam khamata me bhante.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:37:11 AM
Okasa bhante,

I didn't accepted Dymitros invitation to start a Theravada forum, because I thought this forum is pure Theravada. Now I regret about it, yet think this forum is comparatively good.  I learnt many valuable things from you and grateful to you. Nevertheless my courage of active partici
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 02:20:29 AM
What ever one searches for, that he/she will find. Less are those seeing the nature of combined thing, leaving home and go beyond Maras domain.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:45:18 PM
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:39:12 PM
When one is born in outer regions ... your island has drifted away.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:30:00 PM
macchariya, a boarder hard to cross to the middle way, abounding home, sakayaditthi, doubt and rituals.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:33:02 PM
However much one say, West is West, East is East.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 02:28:29 PM
Where ever there is east, there is west. And vici versa. Where ever there is nama, there is rupa. Where ever one seeks for a home, there he will suffer.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:03:31 PM
West is West

gus

October 06, 2018, 09:56:42 AM
belief of kamma, gratitude, independence, honesty, devotion : These are hard to find in people
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:49:14 AM
Again, a latin proverb mit be useful: Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi , patisota is always harmful if not just one own defilements or having a proper stand to help. Sota is the virtue required to resist in borderlands.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:41:52 AM
If in a borderland it's better to simply serve and support the Sangha. It's not smart to seek for other householders to nurish on traced imperfections of something required to uphold, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 04:54:48 AM
Okasa, happy to hear such things reagarding kamma. Many monks I have met don't directly speak about kamma because they have been tired after practicing some years and now bit relaxed.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:17:26 AM
Such can be total kusala and total akusala or simply defuse. Set your mind right and be mindful, that nothing will be of harm for yourself and others.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:15:27 AM
There is nothing not permitted. Merits or demerits are the actors responsibility. One is full in charge of ones action in this Domain here, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 03:50:00 AM
Bhante, is it permitted to ask questions or post things on behalf of other/future people ?

gus

October 05, 2018, 09:19:32 AM
We have been advised like this:
"No matter however much monks reject you,
Never leave the place."
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 09:09:37 AM
It's good when wanderer gus takes a rest, turns to a lonly place, enjoys the merits done and find a good place for his mind and fixes possible open wholes when clear where he likes to go some hours later.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 08:59:03 AM
Wanderer Gus knows how foolish this statement is. That is not the way to get out of a hole.

gus

October 05, 2018, 08:42:59 AM
okasa,
falling down from a status is suffering.
So, if I could stay in the hell-being status from the beginning, then no suffering.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:33:20 AM
From a state of a young Bhikkhu equal tradition...to householder... ...asura (now) on the border to animal, peta, hell-state. It can go quick if not having firm nissaya.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:29:27 AM
Aniccam vatta samsara...

gus

October 05, 2018, 06:56:28 AM
Evolution:
Bhante subhuti =>
Upasaka gus =>
Deva gus =>
Asura gus.

In the future:
Asura gus =>
Peta gus =>
Animal gus =>
Hell-being gus ???

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:51:42 AM
Okasa, I think bhante thinks me as a patriot because of some content of my posts. But it is not.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 05:41:33 AM
What ever one likes to, not touched like the moon, does not mean to praise what is blameworthy and vici-versa and to have metta not to let people run into hell if ways can be pointed out. Yet other choices at least are their. Be quick, your island drifts away!

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:34:15 AM
Okasa,
As long as I don't do exactly what you say, I think I'll not be able to make you happy or satisfied.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 02:12:55 PM
If thinking that this is for sure, if delighting in believing that connected things are a refuge and give space to rest: one may do so. Ones own choice. When ever one stops to nurish inwardly, ouwardly path and fruits die. Good as well as bad.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:28:51 AM
If bhante didn't let the weak person to live in avatar/deva mode, then he will lose both openness and connection. Up to now I have secured at least the connection.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:22:24 AM
Yet I appreciate and pay vandana for your care and advice on openness.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:19:56 AM
Please forgive me  bhante if I have made you tired. I don't like to accumulate akusala by making a monk tired in expecting a naughty chicken to be a good duck.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam Khamtu me bhante!
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:07:06 AM
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
Differnt asked "why is Bhante not happy, dwell not in outwardly seeming being not touched?" Because it would not only confirm and show sign of aggreement of unwise acts, but also very incompassionate and cruel. Also place for suspecting corrupt ways and invite others to follow the comfortable dwelli
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:54:12 AM
No one is able to make my person angry, which does not mean that he would not appear angry so to possible prevent from doing what is not conductive for liberation, even lead in lower states. Nothing to worry, but also no invitation to test it foolish since it could hurt one self and others.

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:46:39 AM
Okasa bhante, Isn't there at least single way to stay anonymous without making you angry?
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:33:12 AM
corr: "it's, the domain of the Noble Ones, is nobody's personal domain" there are no wards around fields for merits and no tickets to pay
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:29:31 AM
What ever Deva gus feels inspired. It's oneones personal domain and all giving is good in the distance of the brigh cool moon. One should not fear, should not be shy to do what is good and praised by the wise but be quick!

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:21:39 AM
Bhante, is that mean you don't like me to talk about higher subjects and like to talk about basics only?
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:02:12 AM
It would be more than good if teaching others a lot on the topic vandami (paying respect) and khamatu (asking for forgiviness) since unknown and not practiced here around this field of merits in compassion to former relatives, Deva gus.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
...total no problem to dwell and lay down in the cool shadow to heal at all and no need to ask for pardon when intended for progressing and to get fit for the battles so hard to win.

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