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Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Sannipātānujānanā
The Allowance for Gathering

(Mv.II.1.1) [147] Now at that time the Buddha, the Blessed One, was staying near Rājagaha on Vulture Peak Mountain. And at that time the wanderers of other sects, gathering on the fourteenth, fifteenth, and eighth (day) of the fortnight, spoke (their) Dhamma. The people went to them to hear the Dhamma. They developed affection for the wanderers of other sects, developed confidence in them, and the wanderers of other sects gained a following.

(Mv.II.1.2) Then, as King Seniya Bimbisāra of Magadha was alone in seclusion, this train of thought arose in his awareness: “At this time the wanderers of other sects, gathering on the fourteenth, fifteenth, and eighth (day) of the fortnight, speak Dhamma. The people go to them to hear the Dhamma, and they gain affection for the wanderers of other sects, gain confidence in them, and the wanderers of other sects gain a following.

“What if the masters were to also to gather on the fourteenth, fifteenth, and eighth (day) of the fortnight?”

(Mv.II.1.3) So he went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, having bowed down to him, sat to one side. As he was sitting there, he said to the Blessed One, “Just now, lord, as I was alone in seclusion, this train of thought arose in my awareness:

“‘At this time the wanderers of other sects, gathering on the fourteenth, fifteenth, and eighth (day) of the fortnight, speak Dhamma. The people go to them to hear the Dhamma, and they gain affection for the wanderers of other sects, gain confidence in them, and the wanderers of other sects gain a following. What if the masters were to also to gather on the fourteenth, fifteenth, and eighth (day) of the fortnight?’”

(Mv.II.1.4) Then the Blessed One instructed, urged, roused, & encouraged King Seniya Bimbisāra of Magadha with a Dhamma talk. Having been instructed, urged, roused, & encouraged by the Blessed One with a Dhamma talk, he got up from his seat, bowed down to him, circumambulated him, keeping him to his right, and left.

Then the Blessed One, having given a Dhamma talk with regard to this cause, to this incident, addressed the monks:

“Monks, I allow you to gather on the fourteenth, fifteenth, and eighth (day) of the fortnight.”

(Mv.II.2.1) [148] Now at that time the monks (thought,) “It has been allowed by the Blessed One to gather on the fourteenth, fifteenth, and eighth (day) of the fortnight.”

Gathering on the fourteenth, fifteenth, and eighth (day) of the fortnight, they sat in silence. The people went to them to hear the Dhamma. They criticized and complained and spread it about: “How can these Sakyan-son monks, gathering on the fourteenth, fifteenth, and eighth (day) of the fortnight, sit in silence like dumb pigs? Shouldn’t Dhamma be spoken by those who gather?”

The monks heard the people criticizing and complaining and spreading it about. Then the monks reported the matter to the Blessed One.

Then the Blessed One, having given a Dhamma talk with regard to this cause, to this incident, addressed the monks:

“Monks, I allow you, having gathered on the fourteenth, fifteenth, and eighth (day) of the fortnight, to speak Dhamma."

If there is/would be such as an invitation by King or the authority, it seems it would be legitime to hold such gatherings (also) on Sunday (or other traditional gathering days in other countries, thinking on the four great references, if a/the Sangha would wish such.
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