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2019 Mar 20 18:46:53
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2019 Mar 20 18:20:42
Vithou: Nyom Kuna planning to see Moritz and Bong Sophorn as well

2019 Mar 20 18:17:26
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2019 Mar 20 18:16:07
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2019 Mar 20 18:13:50
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2019 Mar 20 18:12:02
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2019 Mar 20 18:05:01
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2019 Mar 20 12:25:25
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2019 Mar 20 09:04:34
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2019 Mar 20 08:49:03
Johann: Oh.. wrong, here: Rohitassa Sutta

2019 Mar 20 08:45:24
Johann: There is nothing to far that the mind, oneself, could not reach it in the Universe. Yet end of suffering can not found. But it requires to reach the end of the cosmos to go beyound. Lokayatika Sutta

2019 Mar 20 08:14:55
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2019 Mar 20 06:34:16
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2019 Mar 20 06:32:27
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2019 Mar 20 06:13:30
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2019 Mar 20 05:52:37
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2019 Mar 19 13:56:41
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2019 Mar 19 08:47:34
Johann: Knowing this, one is able to share family (of supporter), honor, dwelling, gains, dhamma, having a clear sense of gratitude.

2019 Mar 19 08:44:19
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2019 Mar 19 08:41:50
Johann: "May macchariya (stinginess) become its needed reduce, so that the goodness of Dhamma may reaches more intensive", is that right translated? Sadhu. Not an easy task althought one might think.

2019 Mar 19 08:07:30
Cheav Villa: សូមអោយមច្ឆរិយ.​ ត្រូវបានកាត់បន្ថយ ដើម្បីគុណធម៌ដែលខ្ពស់ជាង _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 19 01:39:39
Johann: May all have always a good travel, meet each other in best furtune along there ways. May no one get hurt in the traffic after happiness.

2019 Mar 18 10:21:51
Moritz: hello empty yogi _/\_

2019 Mar 18 10:21:23
Moritz: Vandami bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 18 10:21:22
Moritz: Vandami bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 16 08:19:42
Johann:  _/\_ Bhante Indannano

2019 Mar 15 04:20:37
Johann: Nyom Buddhi

2019 Mar 14 16:00:28
Cheav Villa: កូណា​ថ្វាយបង្គំ​លា​ សូមព្រះអង្គឆាប់បានសំរាក​  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 14 09:13:11
Kong Sokdina: Hello!

2019 Mar 14 08:35:17
Johann: Nyom Kong Sokdina

2019 Mar 14 08:10:07
Johann: A meritful Sila-day those who observe it today

2019 Mar 13 11:18:19
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 13 09:23:36
Johann: A meritful Sila-day those who observe it today, btw.

2019 Mar 10 02:03:42
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Mar 09 07:45:59
Moritz: Good morning, Cheav Villa _/\_

2019 Mar 07 12:10:15
Cheav Villa: កូណាព្រះអង្គ  _/\_

2019 Mar 07 12:05:44
Johann: My person is not sure but Nyom Chanroths wife might try to go back from PP tomorrow as well, Nyom.

2019 Mar 07 01:21:24
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 07 01:18:59
Johann: May you have a safe and slow travel.

2019 Mar 07 01:10:20
Cheav Villa: ចេញពី​ភ្នំពេញ​នៅម៉ោង5ព្រឹក :)  _/\_

2019 Mar 07 01:09:25
Cheav Villa: ពួកខ្ញុំកូណា និង បង​ភឿន​ នឹងទៅសួរសុខទុក្ខព្រះអង្គនៅថ្ងៃស្អែក

2019 Mar 07 01:08:34
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Mar 07 01:07:32
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:31:04
Cheav Villa: Have a good day to Master Moritz  _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:29:38
Moritz: And good night for me. :) Chom reap leah. May all have a good Uposatha _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:27:51
Moritz: Good morning, Cheav Villa _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:17:49
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:05:26
Johann: A self-blessed (by ones deeds) Uposathaday today.

2019 Mar 05 11:33:43
Johann: Nyom Chanroth had to stop the work. To difficult to concentrate today. Good training anyway.

2019 Mar 05 10:20:56
Cheav Villa:  :-\ :D _/\_

2019 Mar 05 05:26:54
Johann: A meritful Uposatha those who observe it today.

2019 Mar 05 03:13:37
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu. Rupam anicca

2019 Mar 05 01:47:58
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាបារម្ភអំពីសុខភាពរបស់ព្រះអង្គពីចំងាយ 🙏🏻ករុណាសូមប្រគេនពរ ព្រះអង្គឆាប់ជាសះស្បេីយ

2019 Mar 05 01:38:52
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាឮថា ព្រះអង្គអាពាធ ជង្គង់ តេីព្រះអង្គបានធូរស្បេីយហេីយឬនៅ?

2019 Mar 05 01:07:09
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2019 Mar 04 14:41:21
Johann: Sukha Chomreoun, Nyom

2019 Mar 04 14:18:03
Moritz: Leaving now. May Bhante have a good day. _/\_

2019 Mar 04 13:45:50
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Mar 04 13:19:43
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 01 16:35:39
Johann: Bhante Indannano  _/\_ How was India in "war times"

2019 Feb 28 11:46:56
Moritz: And good bye again. :) _/\_

2019 Feb 28 11:46:38
Moritz: Vandami, Bhante _/\_

2019 Feb 28 05:25:27
Cheav Villa:   :D_/\_

2019 Feb 28 04:22:46
Johann: 5 o'clock morning  ^-^ (like a taxi driver) may Nyom has well earned and peaceful rest. Mudita.

2019 Feb 28 04:08:09
Moritz: Chom reap leah. I'm going to sleep. _/\_

2019 Feb 28 03:40:13
Johann: Sukha chomreoun Nyom.

2019 Feb 28 03:39:06
Moritz: Vandami, Bhante _/\_

2019 Feb 28 03:35:39
Moritz: Good morning, Cheav Villa _/\_

2019 Feb 27 16:15:42
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 27 14:17:51
Khemakumara: Nyom Villa

2019 Feb 27 14:16:29
Khemakumara: Bhante Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 27 14:11:14
Johann: Bhante Khemakumara. Nyom Villa.

2019 Feb 27 12:54:45
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Feb 27 12:20:30
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Feb 27 03:54:23
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 27 03:40:17
Johann: The non-doing of any evil, the performance of what's skillful, the cleansing of one's own mind:     this is the teaching     of the Awakened.

2019 Feb 27 02:18:41
Johann: It's current better but of cause will not heal. Nothing to worry.

2019 Feb 27 01:40:55
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2019 Feb 27 01:40:09
Cheav Villa: សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 27 01:20:29
Johann: May all do a meritfull Sila-day today

2019 Feb 26 07:35:46
Johann: Nyom Mico

2019 Feb 25 18:22:21
Vithou: :)

2019 Feb 24 15:10:27
Cheav Villa: Hello Master Moritz  _/\_

2019 Feb 24 13:33:34
Moritz: Hello Dmytro and Cheav Villa _/\_

2019 Feb 24 13:13:45
Johann: Meister Moritz

2019 Feb 24 13:08:42
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Feb 21 03:15:02
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Feb 20 15:56:46
Johann: see here

2019 Feb 20 13:33:02
Cheav Villa: ពូចាន់រ័ត្ន សុំអោយសួរព្រះអង្គ តើម្សិលមិញ រឺ​ម្សិលម្ង៉ៃ​ មានមនុស្ស​ប្រុសម្នាក់ស្រីម្នាក់ ឡើងទៅលើភ្នំ ឬទេ?

2019 Feb 20 13:31:37
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2019 Feb 18 14:34:39
Johann: Meister Moritz

2019 Feb 18 13:29:24
Moritz: Leaving. May Bhante and all have a good day. _/\_

2019 Feb 18 13:18:25
Moritz: _/\_

2019 Feb 18 09:31:39
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Feb 18 08:19:34
Johann: Where and what to practice?

2019 Feb 18 08:15:08
Johann: Where and when ever good inspired and worthy to give into.

2019 Feb 18 08:14:03
Johann: That place here is not that different, and Nyom did already a lot here. And don't forget: Punna iomething that arises in ones heart, not outwardly.

2019 Feb 18 07:34:01
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"The Silent Sages of Old" another fake-sage?
« on: March 01, 2018, 07:46:46 AM »
Doesn't only the title sound pleasant for those wanting all?

Recently the Dhamma-trade group, since a longer doing a livelihood in selling "sages", puplished a new translation of the sages sayings:

NEW: The Silent Sages of Old [PDF]

Altought my person has less doubt that they would not answer, not even allow the comment displayed, (either because feeling caught, can actually not answer, or do not understand and simply fearing their trades endangered) following was asked:

My person wonders why it might be so difficult to trace hypocrisy, and what else then (graving after) accumulations such projects might be? Wouldn’t it be better to lead a project to clear up (the) living and acting in paradoxes, Anonymous? A writing sage, how could he be a sage in the mirror of his words? And on the other side, didn’t Mara often tried to quite the teachings in this way on the other hand (saying, the sages of old did not teach)? So why not be simply honest and try (not) to play something that (simply) does not work? Because how much sake would be an anonymos fake, and don’t think that my person just does a talk?

So, aside of suggesting to give in for a trade, and not really give it for sharing merits, the obiviously connection to well known "trades in Dhamma", such as Bodhi and the other seller, Anandajoti... what do you think, can a writer or teacher ever be a sake and if, how and in which ways would he contribute them?

My person is sure that also the anonymous Admin, of the Dhamma pressing page, might have to think more honest about the internet-confused role-playing games, Hermit Hiriko .

At least, what do you like, if even able, give people to encourage them to let go of the foolishness of role-playing and wonderland dreams? Is it worthy to feed just another belly and disrespect the sages for such low sakes?

Not even are those sakes able to give up money and others for projects in the world.

May the anonymous sage, if not caught in such trade company become not caught or sees while anonymously surfing the paradox and inhonest way.

When one teaches, one is a teacher, when one put nothing into the world, one is a sage, and if a sages feels it is good to teach, has certain remainders, then he might be a sage abounding his last remainders.

If one accumulates to do so, or accumulates from rewards, whether hidding in foolish "i am an anonymous sage" or not, it's good if knowing, "I teach", "I abound for no further becoming, at least I tried another time, may I honor the sages in proper ways and may the difference between a sage and one possible after it, be always visible to trace..."

At least, one can get in serious problems, filling ones belly, seek for accumulations, in suggessing others of being sakes...
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Re: "The Silent Sages of Old" another fake-sage?
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2018, 10:49:54 AM »
Quote from: Anonymous Admin of PP via email
Your arrogance appears very foolish and therefore you are causing a lot of demerit by calling the translator as "fake". If you knew who the translator is you might realize you are only youngster from kindergarten standing next to the professor.

The translator wants to keep his privacy and doesn't want to be known, so people don't seek for him. Simple as that.

Quote from: Johann via email to Anonymous od PP
Is it sure that my person called the translator fake, or what if?

Sure, must be a sage, if wishing to hold on his privacy. It's seems you don't see how "funny" you are.

From experiance as well in accordiance to the teachings, it's a matter of upanissaya if one seeks and possible finds... what if not an extreme advertising of "seek after me" should that be?

And what, if a sage actually, would make him wish others not to meet a sage and gain deep faith? (Aside that the Buddha did not want his sages to be just sold by those making livelihood out of them.

So how childish kindergarten is a possible "exactly knowing the talk", if imaging that it could be possible sitting actually in the crowd of kids? Just foods for thoughts and, yes, my person, even if you get the message, does not think that you may be able to actually answer the question and release it's paradox.

But like always, my person would be more then happy, if his "assumings" are wrong.

Feel always welcome and even if hard to take, no need to think that things are aside of own made of unskillful and not knowing origin.

If the translator gets that to read, he possible would explain you who or what talked with him and be sure that he would, others as you think really rejoice.

You wouldn't risk to give him release, wouldn't you. So he is possible not in the best association, what do you think?

(A possible sage or fake, having not accumulate enought knowledge and communication skill)

Samana Johann
doing Forest monk in Cambodia
(You are welcome to visit sangham.net)

For someone having no upanissaya at all, even if knowing name, adress, even frequently tracked by gps, even if standing in front, on would not find, either the sage nor the Dhamma.

Yes, my person really "wonders" or gives to wonder, what the kindergarten is about...

And tells you: this very graving for sensuality and becoming = craving after trade.

May the smell of another fart gives many rise for awakening.

Aren't the enough "anonymous-sages/fakes" around especially here in this realm and the others? Aren't there enought helpless Jains around?

My person can not remember even a lower sage not having approached with joyfull 'Sadhu!' after having been addressed in such way outside of the guilds of Jains having occupied this realm for worshipping their anonymity...

It would not wonder if certain sakes hold not only on rights developed in this world of anonymity but also a monk identification card an passport to possible defend and claim such rights...

Try to trace the sender/poster here.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2018, 11:18:23 AM by Johann »
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Re: "The Silent Sages of Old" another fake-sage?
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2018, 11:36:01 AM »
Quote from: to Anonymous at PP
Btw., anonymous, in cases you would be able to risk the forwarding:

If the generous translator wishes to dedicate his work, in this case not out of compassion, but honor, respect and with wise intent to higher, toward the Noble Sangha and those following, aside of putting it into the world and trade, he may feel always invited to do so and may make use of the given enviroment on sangham.net for such, so that sages and those trust their ways seriously would be able to benefit from the sacrifice and possible carry it on outside the impure means of housholders but for many peoples later benefit, sacrificing toward Nibbana.

My person is sure that the translater will not feel insulted by possible respectless seeming approach. It's neither proper to show respect if improper nor if the object is anonymous, hides his appearence, merits and faults.

Again, it all, the whole spectrum of the very hindrance of stingyness lies again in your hand. After Jhana, path or fruits? If: consider wise.

Samana Johann
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