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[pt] [Index] Translating the pages to portuguese
« on: March 10, 2018, 11:35:08 PM »
As mentioned in the other topic, with Bhante Johann and Moritz's agreement, I intend to translate ZzE.org pages to portuguese. Whenever I have the time and disposition to translate a page, I pretend to post the html code here for now, if there is no problem. If the admins have a better suggestion, advice or disclaimer about how to lead the project, let met know, please.  :)

for now, there it is the initial page (index_en.html) in portuguese:

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Re: Translating the pages to portuguese
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2018, 11:48:02 PM »
Sadhu!

Atma will share some suggestions, and usuals till now, a little later today, as well as sending Nyom Danilo the ftp access, so that he can work most freely.

Infrastruction for topics, indexes and progress are all here aready, althought German for now.

Made like such so that others could always join the work and merits, such as prove reading...
« Last Edit: March 11, 2018, 05:40:13 AM by Johann »
This post and Content has come to be by Dhamma-Dana and so is given as it       Dhamma-Dana: Johann

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Re: Translating the pages to portuguese
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2018, 07:15:22 AM »
The way done before:

  • creating Portuguese fileBest to start, if thinking on translating more to Portuguese language is to copy fist all English files (ending _en.{file type} ) to equal files in Portuguese (ending _pt.{file type} )

  • Changing then the language switch menu of new files and old.
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(.html, _en.html, _pt.html, _km.html)
  • changing all cross-links on pt-pages from _en. to _pt.

  • Changing content division class from <div id="H_content"> to <div id="H_content_untranslated">
At this point all pages are accessable.

The same would be good if making for Khmer "_km." pages.

From here on the language specific translation of all part excluded the content-div starts and best done if for all "pt" pages at the same time.

The Sangha and the follower of the Sangha are given consciously Notepad++ Sanghika Dana and Libreoffice for editing works for Dhamma-dana purpose, to have best means which do neither cause additional debts nor to possible break Silas or the need to gain for the purpose to give.

The way done before, as well now, is not done to gain certain aims but using the given for training in good means. Sila and freedom from remorse should always be 1st.

If liking to use other means, ways... just be sure that they are either consciously given for that purpose or the own. If others would need to own certain tools as well, to work further, and it would require them to accumulate debts and dependency to third, it might be not the best way.

The first part is the hardest to search and replace correct, linke menu, infotext and some additional divions like author-translation and other things in the "copy-given"-texts.

So this part is possible good made step by step. My person remembers, that the German pages have been done two times completely and still much improving later by Moritz , having good mathematic skills for regex-use.
But please not, my person didn't know anything about all that matter, not even the meaning of any html-tag at this time where you are for sure much more skilled and know easier way.

(the reason why databases never have been used is because a lot of skills are needed and since an ever and fast area, steedy up-to-date would be required as well. Since monks are not thought to learn, maintain or train for wordily skills, the lesser skills and dependency is required, the better. A static html page is most possible independent.)

Once all Texts are translated, exept the content, when ever there is joy, page by page can be translated, uploaded anew and marked, and published as new publication, like one here .

Then, before, as my person was still able to handle larger excel-files, on time a or two month, the indexpages and the new history pages have been eedited/created.

It's always good to inform others when up to changing files on a more global level so that nothing get lost and nothing would be made twice. Before doing something, good to look into the forum and also best if not making parallel email exchange because possible explaining would be needed to make a secound time to inform others as well.

Aside of such as exchange of pw the is and should be nothing to hide. If others adopt ways or what ever, one is joyful about that.
Nevertheless, what ever sacrify will be done, focuse on those worthy of gifts and if other are able to gain a share, that is good. So the work/gifts are not done for attracting consumer and bring them by consuming into depencency, like one normal does, but to give most possible independency and freedom of remorse as well no increasing to third parts of whichs sacrifice may pull back into world.

My person thinks it is good if Nyom Moritz will email Nyom Danilo the ftp pass word for ZzE. In regard of server issues like installing, ... it's good when Nyom Moritz still stays in "charge", holding it alone, to get not to much mixed up.

If thinking on building up the whole page anew (aside of the Sila and debt issues, good to think about if others are possible to work on with it without string and wordily burdens) it is possible good done if using the domain accesstoinsight.eu for such.

Since a very larg part of the sacrifies given into Upasaka John Bullitts generous gift is a matter of gratitude and care, the heart, the index-, general pages... are good estimated if seeing them as priority.

Good, like done before as well, before giving into ATI.eu or ZzE, giving the gift of Dhamma toward the origin author, in what ever good way possible and ask and/or inform of what one is willing to do. "When" do not claim or use rights but share further, like-alike "we" are given, and also offer others to learn and gain simply by the means of giving and using what is given, so that the first intention till the last is not gain.fruits come by it's one naturally in this way without a need to desire for it.

So my persons only "real" part here is to point out certain dangers and good ways that you may gain best results and inbetween just some samples that even if going by feet, all calculated honest and correct, even an aeroplane can never be faster.

Meaning, if having an aeroplane and fuel, one may use it, but don't try to get an aeroplane and fuel even by increasing debts. It's not sure if the destination is the final.

Atma will now upload the new Portuguese index-page (note, some missing translations are found in the title-tags, like "title="Report a mistake, participate, support... You are heartily invited to join! See for more Infomations."

When ever seeing an error, even if not solving for now, just a remark in the "error-topic" so that it will not be forgotten and others could fix possible it as well.
A posted error does not mean that the giver is demanded to correct, not at all. Great as it is. It's just another possibility who ever like to take it and that the care-holder does not forget.

If translating larger pages, good to inform as well, that work is not done double at the same time, within the existing topic possible.

Some work will seem to be simply burden-full but by taking on one and the same item more then one time, many mistakes are seen and concentraction gets trained. They have certain reasons one might see later on.

At least, about 2/3
of the engl. pages have to be replaced by new editions of Bhante Thanissaro and the old put under _old_en.html. So already a lot of mindfulness and concentration, outwardly, is required.

If liking to make one page by one, such is also great. Just if getting more, certain same words will become translated differently and global changes become more difficult.
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Re: Translating the pages to portuguese
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2018, 12:03:56 PM »
Regarding the name "zugangzureinsicht.org" bzw. "Zugang zur Einsicht", may person does not know how much or easy German names are inviting in Portuguese language.
Alternatives are "accesstoinsight.eu" or to call it "Acesso ao Insight" in text passages.

There is a website,  http://www.acessoaoinsight.net , which used to start on ATI contend, if remembering right, but chanced the to other orgin source. Not sure about it. Remembering that having asked years ago, if an enlargement of zze is welcome on it's content but never got an answer.

Since origin and author are difficult to verify and the generel view of the page editor is that Dhamma belongs to everyone, its hard to touch it, neither knowing if the "owner" (ironical ⓒ here) would be happy.

Certain content from there can be found on Ssuttacentral as well with equal less information of whom to ask.

If liking to get in contact, please do as Nyom Danilo thinks that is fine for him. At least "we" are not after content but trying to give always further possibilities and joyful carring about what is given consciously.

Atma (my person is also not sure if there is a great difference between "original" Portuguese and Brazilian, and if it is needed to discriminate between them, and if a different, which kind Nyom Danilo follows.

How ever you think that it is fine, feel free to design it as you think it is fine.

Atma changed the topic title so that it might be easier to find later. [pt] [groupename].

The existing quicker index on the left, see screen shot, can be also used (it should be no problem to transl. into english), since the last time worked merely alone, the single indexes in the topics might be not on current status.

How ever it feels fine for Nyom Danilo.
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Re: Translating the pages to portuguese
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2018, 01:07:54 PM »
My person thinks it is good if Nyom Moritz will email Nyom Danilo the ftp pass word for ZzE. In regard of server issues like installing, ... it's good when Nyom Moritz still stays in "charge", holding it alone, to get not to much mixed up.

I have sent an email with FTP password to Danilo and to Bhante as well.

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Sadhu, received and also forwarded to Upasika Sophorn .
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Re: [pt] [Index] Translating the pages to portuguese
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2018, 09:39:03 AM »
My person has Melhor Doar do que Consumir added link to the pt-index.

Also changed lang-menu into more comfortable way (all existing language) so that it is the same for all languages, for all page which now have a pt counterpart:

Code: [Select]
<div class="dropdown">								
  <button class="dropbtn">[lang]</button>
<div class="dropdown-content"> <a href="{file-name}_en.html">English</a>
<a href="{file-name}_de.html">Deutsch</a>
<a href="{file-name}_pt.html">Português</a>
</div>
</div>
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Cheav Villa

December 14, 2018, 02:06:47 PM
_/\_  _/\_  _/\_
 

Johann

December 14, 2018, 01:54:10 PM
Better, yes. Lesser fibre, only soft malary attacks seemingly ending. Abscesses going to an end, flu nearly gone and some time walk outside, some
more strength, as well already. Best supported by those near and far, direct, indirect. Sadhu Nyom Villa, Nyom Sophorn.
 

Cheav Villa

December 14, 2018, 01:50:17 PM
Vandami Bhante _/\_
Tomorrow early morning
Vithou, His brotherinlaw and Kana's brother Virak they will leave at 5am to Aural wished to visit Bhante and offering some medecines_/\_
 

Cheav Villa

December 13, 2018, 01:39:00 PM
ព្រះអង្គបានធូរខ្លះហេីយ _/\_
 

Sophorn

December 11, 2018, 04:43:02 PM
 :-* :-* :-*
May Bhante recover fast again
 :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

December 10, 2018, 12:22:01 PM
...many.May Nyom Sokdina let it be known if he desires for an explaining of why modern ideas and demanding go not at all in conformity with the Buddhas Dhamma but are at large leading downwardly.
 

Johann

December 10, 2018, 12:06:17 PM
Thinking in therms of rights is grave wrong view, miccha ditthi. And there are times when voting is not usefull. Of cause people who go after such ideas simply search for relexation, fun and joy and will be not satisfied by the Dhamma, Nyom Sokdina. Don't follow fools and see the many goodness of ma
 

Kong Sokdina

December 10, 2018, 10:33:43 AM
ថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គ!
Human rigths!
Women rigths,
Children rights,
Democrecy;
We know the right to do. I use self-reflaction to our mind what are something in. The right way is a good way all wr wish. I have to g
ask you about the breath relaxation, meditatii
 

Cheav Villa

December 10, 2018, 09:43:12 AM
សូមព្រះអង្គបានសម្រាក និងឆាន់ថ្នាំ សូមព្រះអង្គឆាប់ធូរស្បេីយពីរោគា
_/\_
 

Johann

December 10, 2018, 09:12:24 AM
Krun Chan did the arriving appear faster and binds to rest. Everything fine, dhammata.
 

Sophorn

December 10, 2018, 07:03:39 AM
 :-* :-* :-* kana is good. Kana assumes Bhante arrived well at Thmor Touk again.
 :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

December 09, 2018, 02:16:13 PM
Upanissaya, Nyom Villa... "accidents"...
 

Cheav Villa

December 09, 2018, 02:08:10 PM
ថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គ _/\_
 :D កូណាស្មនត្រូវថាព្រះអង្គនឹងត្រឡប់ទៅដល់អាស្រមវិញនាល្ងាចថ្ងៃអាទិត្យនេះ _/\_
 

Khemakumara

December 09, 2018, 01:33:19 AM
Nyom Sophorn, everything is fine!  How is nyom?
 

Sophorn

December 08, 2018, 05:40:28 PM
 :-* :-* :-* vandami Bhante Khemakura, how is Bhante?
 :-* :-* :-*
 

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December 08, 2018, 05:40:24 PM
 :-* :-* :-* vandami Bhante Khemakura, how is Bhante?
 :-* :-* :-*
 

Cheav Villa

December 07, 2018, 01:18:12 PM
Kana Preah Ang _/\_
 

Khemakumara

December 07, 2018, 01:10:24 PM
Nyom Cheav Villa
 

Cheav Villa

December 05, 2018, 02:54:44 PM
Kana thought Bhante Johann could have left Watt Ayum on Tuesday morning _/\_
 

Cheav Villa

December 05, 2018, 12:04:44 PM
ព្រះអង្គ​Inddanano _/\_
 

Kong Sokdina

December 04, 2018, 11:52:14 AM
Sadhu! Kana Prah Ang;
There are many ways to wash & clean the all minds, Preah konmchas; i had been taught by prf. from Spain with theory & practice as well since 2006-2009 and i also let my clients to do like whatever you have told me right now. For me at this time; it should use cognitive behavio
 

Khemakumara

December 03, 2018, 05:06:22 PM
Sadhu!  Möge es Nyom Roman und Nyom Moritz gut er-gehen!
 

Moritz

December 03, 2018, 05:03:40 PM
Ebenso _/\_
 

Roman

December 03, 2018, 04:58:02 PM
ich wünsche Allen einen friedevollen Abend!
 

Roman

December 03, 2018, 04:55:34 PM
Guten Abend Moritz und Bhante Khemakumara
 

Khemakumara

December 03, 2018, 04:54:47 PM
Nyom Moritz Nyom Roman
 

Moritz

December 03, 2018, 04:45:52 PM
Vandami, Bhante Indaññano and Bhante Khemakumara _/\_
 

Cheav Villa

December 03, 2018, 12:05:41 PM
Kana Prah Ang  :D _/\_
 

Khemakumara

December 03, 2018, 12:01:58 PM
Nyom Cheav Villa
 

Johann

December 03, 2018, 09:37:36 AM
Nyom Sokdina. It would be good if Nyom could participate on the up-coming Meditation week-end at Wat Akyum to clean the mind.
 

Kong Sokdina

December 03, 2018, 02:15:52 AM
Nyoms! Last night, a gouhter is affect by irritable cougbhing so it disurbance to sleep.
 

Kong Sokdina

December 03, 2018, 02:11:21 AM
Sadhu! Thanks!
It is just  tried to give up & burn out of bad spiritul inside. Your Wishes isi good for all.
 

Sophorn

December 02, 2018, 08:48:58 AM
 :-* :-* :-*
may you recover well and fast  :-* :-* :-*
 

Kong Sokdina

December 02, 2018, 02:18:46 AM
Respectfully
Today, my is ill with lower blood pressure & blurred sion. But she tries to see because she really praises excellent merit, moral & virtue. How do you think  , as humanbeing?
 

Cheav Villa

December 01, 2018, 12:29:08 PM
 :o ព្រះអង្គស្រេងអាចនឹងដំឡេីងកម្មវិធីទាំងអស់នោះវិញបាននៅពេលក្រោយ ព្រះអង្គ _/\_
 

Johann

December 01, 2018, 12:16:35 PM
Not easy, but Atma has now erased all facebook, messenger.. apps on Bhantes device. Maybe possible to prepar the old Sangha-laptop in proper ways for him.
 

Johann

December 01, 2018, 07:58:21 AM
If wishing, you could use the Pali-language forum, http://sangham.net/index.php/board,26.0.html for your lessons.
 

Cheav Villa

December 01, 2018, 06:57:19 AM
 :D _/\_
 

Johann

December 01, 2018, 06:48:05 AM
.. was written by Johann
 

Indaññāno

December 01, 2018, 06:45:34 AM
It's good to make everything that Huang's may not use messenger and things like Facebook! Of course there is support (given support) needed to do so. Don't pull monks into the worlds markets and ways.
 

Cheav Villa

December 01, 2018, 06:00:30 AM
Kuna Prah Ang  :D _/\_
 

Johann

December 01, 2018, 05:22:57 AM
Bhante is just taking his meal, Nyom.
 

Cheav Villa

December 01, 2018, 04:40:17 AM
ព្រះអង្គ ឥន្ទញាណោ _/\_
 

Sophorn

November 30, 2018, 11:20:52 AM
 :-* :-* :-* sadhu and mudita to hear so.
 :-* :-* :-*
 

Cheav Villa

November 30, 2018, 05:52:17 AM
Sadhu _/\_
 

Johann

November 30, 2018, 05:43:37 AM
Everything "fine", better Dhammata, Nyom. Atma met Nyom. His mind is attentive, he could listen and its up to his own further investigation, blessed, being bound to care only about his breath for the time left.
 

Cheav Villa

November 29, 2018, 02:05:44 PM
តេីសុខភាពពិបាកទ្រាំ ដែរទេព្រះអង្គ? និងលោកតាឧបាសក?
 

Cheav Villa

November 29, 2018, 02:01:01 PM
ថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គ  :D
_/\_
 

Cheav Villa

November 29, 2018, 02:01:01 PM
ថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គ  :D
_/\_
 

Khemakumara

November 29, 2018, 11:10:38 AM
Sadhu

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