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[pt] [Index] Translating the pages to portuguese
« on: March 10, 2018, 11:35:08 PM »
As mentioned in the other topic, with Bhante Johann and Moritz's agreement, I intend to translate ZzE.org pages to portuguese. Whenever I have the time and disposition to translate a page, I pretend to post the html code here for now, if there is no problem. If the admins have a better suggestion, advice or disclaimer about how to lead the project, let met know, please.  :)

for now, there it is the initial page (index_en.html) in portuguese:

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Re: Translating the pages to portuguese
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2018, 11:48:02 PM »
Sadhu!

Atma will share some suggestions, and usuals till now, a little later today, as well as sending Nyom Danilo the ftp access, so that he can work most freely.

Infrastruction for topics, indexes and progress are all here aready, althought German for now.

Made like such so that others could always join the work and merits, such as prove reading...
« Last Edit: March 11, 2018, 05:40:13 AM by Johann »
This post and Content has come to be by Dhamma-Dana and so is given as it       Dhamma-Dana: Johann

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Re: Translating the pages to portuguese
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2018, 07:15:22 AM »
The way done before:

  • creating Portuguese fileBest to start, if thinking on translating more to Portuguese language is to copy fist all English files (ending _en.{file type} ) to equal files in Portuguese (ending _pt.{file type} )

  • Changing then the language switch menu of new files and old.
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(.html, _en.html, _pt.html, _km.html)
  • changing all cross-links on pt-pages from _en. to _pt.

  • Changing content division class from <div id="H_content"> to <div id="H_content_untranslated">
At this point all pages are accessable.

The same would be good if making for Khmer "_km." pages.

From here on the language specific translation of all part excluded the content-div starts and best done if for all "pt" pages at the same time.

The Sangha and the follower of the Sangha are given consciously Notepad++ Sanghika Dana and Libreoffice for editing works for Dhamma-dana purpose, to have best means which do neither cause additional debts nor to possible break Silas or the need to gain for the purpose to give.

The way done before, as well now, is not done to gain certain aims but using the given for training in good means. Sila and freedom from remorse should always be 1st.

If liking to use other means, ways... just be sure that they are either consciously given for that purpose or the own. If others would need to own certain tools as well, to work further, and it would require them to accumulate debts and dependency to third, it might be not the best way.

The first part is the hardest to search and replace correct, linke menu, infotext and some additional divions like author-translation and other things in the "copy-given"-texts.

So this part is possible good made step by step. My person remembers, that the German pages have been done two times completely and still much improving later by Moritz , having good mathematic skills for regex-use.
But please not, my person didn't know anything about all that matter, not even the meaning of any html-tag at this time where you are for sure much more skilled and know easier way.

(the reason why databases never have been used is because a lot of skills are needed and since an ever and fast area, steedy up-to-date would be required as well. Since monks are not thought to learn, maintain or train for wordily skills, the lesser skills and dependency is required, the better. A static html page is most possible independent.)

Once all Texts are translated, exept the content, when ever there is joy, page by page can be translated, uploaded anew and marked, and published as new publication, like one here .

Then, before, as my person was still able to handle larger excel-files, on time a or two month, the indexpages and the new history pages have been eedited/created.

It's always good to inform others when up to changing files on a more global level so that nothing get lost and nothing would be made twice. Before doing something, good to look into the forum and also best if not making parallel email exchange because possible explaining would be needed to make a secound time to inform others as well.

Aside of such as exchange of pw the is and should be nothing to hide. If others adopt ways or what ever, one is joyful about that.
Nevertheless, what ever sacrify will be done, focuse on those worthy of gifts and if other are able to gain a share, that is good. So the work/gifts are not done for attracting consumer and bring them by consuming into depencency, like one normal does, but to give most possible independency and freedom of remorse as well no increasing to third parts of whichs sacrifice may pull back into world.

My person thinks it is good if Nyom Moritz will email Nyom Danilo the ftp pass word for ZzE. In regard of server issues like installing, ... it's good when Nyom Moritz still stays in "charge", holding it alone, to get not to much mixed up.

If thinking on building up the whole page anew (aside of the Sila and debt issues, good to think about if others are possible to work on with it without string and wordily burdens) it is possible good done if using the domain accesstoinsight.eu for such.

Since a very larg part of the sacrifies given into Upasaka John Bullitts generous gift is a matter of gratitude and care, the heart, the index-, general pages... are good estimated if seeing them as priority.

Good, like done before as well, before giving into ATI.eu or ZzE, giving the gift of Dhamma toward the origin author, in what ever good way possible and ask and/or inform of what one is willing to do. "When" do not claim or use rights but share further, like-alike "we" are given, and also offer others to learn and gain simply by the means of giving and using what is given, so that the first intention till the last is not gain.fruits come by it's one naturally in this way without a need to desire for it.

So my persons only "real" part here is to point out certain dangers and good ways that you may gain best results and inbetween just some samples that even if going by feet, all calculated honest and correct, even an aeroplane can never be faster.

Meaning, if having an aeroplane and fuel, one may use it, but don't try to get an aeroplane and fuel even by increasing debts. It's not sure if the destination is the final.

Atma will now upload the new Portuguese index-page (note, some missing translations are found in the title-tags, like "title="Report a mistake, participate, support... You are heartily invited to join! See for more Infomations."

When ever seeing an error, even if not solving for now, just a remark in the "error-topic" so that it will not be forgotten and others could fix possible it as well.
A posted error does not mean that the giver is demanded to correct, not at all. Great as it is. It's just another possibility who ever like to take it and that the care-holder does not forget.

If translating larger pages, good to inform as well, that work is not done double at the same time, within the existing topic possible.

Some work will seem to be simply burden-full but by taking on one and the same item more then one time, many mistakes are seen and concentraction gets trained. They have certain reasons one might see later on.

At least, about 2/3
of the engl. pages have to be replaced by new editions of Bhante Thanissaro and the old put under _old_en.html. So already a lot of mindfulness and concentration, outwardly, is required.

If liking to make one page by one, such is also great. Just if getting more, certain same words will become translated differently and global changes become more difficult.
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Re: Translating the pages to portuguese
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2018, 12:03:56 PM »
Regarding the name "zugangzureinsicht.org" bzw. "Zugang zur Einsicht", may person does not know how much or easy German names are inviting in Portuguese language.
Alternatives are "accesstoinsight.eu" or to call it "Acesso ao Insight" in text passages.

There is a website,  http://www.acessoaoinsight.net , which used to start on ATI contend, if remembering right, but chanced the to other orgin source. Not sure about it. Remembering that having asked years ago, if an enlargement of zze is welcome on it's content but never got an answer.

Since origin and author are difficult to verify and the generel view of the page editor is that Dhamma belongs to everyone, its hard to touch it, neither knowing if the "owner" (ironical ⓒ here) would be happy.

Certain content from there can be found on Ssuttacentral as well with equal less information of whom to ask.

If liking to get in contact, please do as Nyom Danilo thinks that is fine for him. At least "we" are not after content but trying to give always further possibilities and joyful carring about what is given consciously.

Atma (my person is also not sure if there is a great difference between "original" Portuguese and Brazilian, and if it is needed to discriminate between them, and if a different, which kind Nyom Danilo follows.

How ever you think that it is fine, feel free to design it as you think it is fine.

Atma changed the topic title so that it might be easier to find later. [pt] [groupename].

The existing quicker index on the left, see screen shot, can be also used (it should be no problem to transl. into english), since the last time worked merely alone, the single indexes in the topics might be not on current status.

How ever it feels fine for Nyom Danilo.
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Re: Translating the pages to portuguese
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2018, 01:07:54 PM »
My person thinks it is good if Nyom Moritz will email Nyom Danilo the ftp pass word for ZzE. In regard of server issues like installing, ... it's good when Nyom Moritz still stays in "charge", holding it alone, to get not to much mixed up.

I have sent an email with FTP password to Danilo and to Bhante as well.

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Re: [pt] [Index] Translating the pages to portuguese
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2018, 01:59:00 PM »
Sadhu, received and also forwarded to Upasika Sophorn .
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Re: [pt] [Index] Translating the pages to portuguese
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2018, 09:39:03 AM »
My person has Melhor Doar do que Consumir added link to the pt-index.

Also changed lang-menu into more comfortable way (all existing language) so that it is the same for all languages, for all page which now have a pt counterpart:

Code: [Select]
<div class="dropdown">								
  <button class="dropbtn">[lang]</button>
<div class="dropdown-content"> <a href="{file-name}_en.html">English</a>
<a href="{file-name}_de.html">Deutsch</a>
<a href="{file-name}_pt.html">Português</a>
</div>
</div>
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Johann

June 21, 2018, 01:52:05 AM
Sadhu!
 

Sophorn

June 20, 2018, 08:42:25 PM
Möge es ein verdienstvoller Uposatha für alle sein!  :-* :-* :-*
 

Marcel

June 19, 2018, 07:41:34 AM
 :-* :-* :-*
Bhante Johann, ich habe die Daten für mein sangham email nicht!! Ich bitte Sie mir diese, aus Mitgefühl, zukommen zu lassen. :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

June 19, 2018, 07:09:43 AM
Hat Nyom Marcel, Khemakumara, noch PW für seine sangham email? Wenn nicht vergibt Atma neues und sendet es an die Adressen wie zuvor.
 

Johann

June 19, 2018, 07:00:27 AM
_/\_ Okasa Bhante, if Bhante likes to give a teaching in regard of Vandami, out of compassion, his merits would be joyful received.
 

Indaññāno

June 19, 2018, 06:55:59 AM
សង្ឃ
 

Johann

June 19, 2018, 06:40:35 AM
_/\_ Bhante Indannano _/\_
 

Marcel

June 19, 2018, 02:48:19 AM
 :-* :-* :-*
Bhante Johann, i will let you all khnow when the final going forth has been requested :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

June 19, 2018, 02:39:20 AM
If Bhante has lost account and email settings, let it be known, that my person sends it to marcel@sangham.net
 

Johann

June 19, 2018, 02:37:20 AM
Let all know when the final going forth has been simply requested, simply received, to be able to rejoice with it.
 

Johann

June 19, 2018, 02:33:42 AM
Let all know when the final going forth has been simply requested, simply received, to be able to rejoice with it.
 

Johann

June 19, 2018, 02:31:03 AM
Nyom Marcel
 

Johann

June 17, 2018, 07:18:53 PM
Bestes Gelingen und Freude dabei.
 

Moritz

June 17, 2018, 05:19:19 PM
Ich verabschiede mich für heut, muss andere Arbeit tun. Einen schönen Sonntag.
_/\_
 

Johann

June 17, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Mudita
 

Marcel

June 17, 2018, 02:19:16 PM
 :-* :-* :-* die Übung ist besser als im "alten haus"  Zuversicht, geduld und Respekt über den drei juwelen ist da!!  :-* :-* :-*
 

Marcel

June 17, 2018, 02:19:05 PM
 :-* :-* :-* die Übung ist besser als im "alten haus"  Zuversicht, geduld und Respekt über den drei juwelen ist da!!  :-* :-* :-*
 

Marcel

June 17, 2018, 02:19:02 PM
 :-* :-* :-* die Übung ist besser als im "alten haus"  Zuversicht, geduld und Respekt über den drei juwelen ist da!!  :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

June 17, 2018, 01:53:53 PM
Wie immer recht, Nyom. Wie stets mit der Übung und allem neu und unperfekt?
 

Marcel

June 17, 2018, 01:42:40 PM
 :-*  :-* :-* anumodana :-* :-* :-*
 

Marcel

June 17, 2018, 01:40:03 PM
 :-* :-* :-*

Der ehrwürdige bhante besitzt noch den pc ! Bhante idananno ist für 2 Tage nach phnom phen. Wenn bhante wieder. Da ist, werde ich ihn  fragen und mich darum kümmern dass bhante  einen Zugang zum onlinekloster bekommt!  :-* :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

June 17, 2018, 01:26:26 PM
Hat Bhante noch den alten PC und das USB modem? Wenn Nyom, nach fragen, seine Sim da reintut, kann er damit sangham.net erreichen. Atma Tel. Nr. 012 345 025 wenn Nyom etwas benötigt.
 

Marcel

June 17, 2018, 01:23:38 PM
Entwürdiger bhante Johann, alles fein hier! Ich kann nun, über mein altes Handy, auf das online-Kloster zugreifen!
 

Marcel

June 17, 2018, 01:22:11 PM
Entwürdiger bhante Johann, alles fein hier! Ich kann nun, über mein altes Handy, auf das online-Kloster zugreifen!
 

Johann

June 17, 2018, 01:15:07 PM
Nyom? Marcel? Alles fein?
 

Johann

June 17, 2018, 01:14:25 PM
Atma kann nicht slowenisch, nur etwas Windisch/Kärntnerisch.

Soviele Raunzwörter... nie über Segensausdrücke gestolpert.

Sokh chomreoun, Nyom.
 

Moritz

June 17, 2018, 10:15:01 AM
Pozdravljeni, Guest!
 

Johann

June 16, 2018, 04:39:12 PM
Sadhu, may Nyom nourish on and rejoice with the merits done and gain pleasant and insightful dwellings of access.
 

Moritz

June 16, 2018, 04:32:09 PM
Chom reap lea.
May Bhante have a good day.
_/\_
 

Johann

June 16, 2018, 09:51:31 AM
Sokh chomreoun Nyom.

(May sukha (happiness) grow to its perfection, "previous father/relative")
 

Moritz

June 16, 2018, 09:38:06 AM
Vandami, Bhante.
Ich bin erst mal weg hier.
_/\_
 

Johann

June 12, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
Mag man sich, mag sich jeder, der Erinnerung an den Neumonduposatha, für geschicktes nutzen.

May everyone takes the New-moon Uposatha as a reminder for acting skilfully
 

Johann

June 06, 2018, 07:21:10 PM
Sadhu!
 

Sophorn

June 06, 2018, 03:02:27 AM
Einen verdienstvollen Uposatha heute  :-*
 

Johann

May 29, 2018, 06:44:12 PM
So der Tag mit Sonnenaufgang beginnt, ist selbt in Asien noch viel Gelegenheit dazu.
 

Sophorn

May 29, 2018, 05:53:50 PM
Möge heute ein verdienstvoller Tag gewesen sein!  :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

May 29, 2018, 11:57:01 AM
Sadhu!
 

Marcel

May 29, 2018, 11:37:19 AM
 :-* :-* :-*

mögen sie alle ein verdienstvollen uposatha haben!  :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

May 22, 2018, 10:11:37 AM
Sadhu!
 

Marcel

May 22, 2018, 09:37:30 AM
 :-* :-* :-*
einen verdienstvollen uposatha wünsche ich allen  :-* :-* :-*
 

Marcel

May 19, 2018, 03:07:57 PM
 :-* :-* :-*

ehrwürdiger bhante

 :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

May 19, 2018, 03:05:38 PM
Nyom Marcel.
 

Johann

May 14, 2018, 01:24:42 PM
Sadhu!
 

Marcel

May 14, 2018, 01:23:37 PM
 :-* :-* :-*
allen ein verdienstvollen uposatha

 :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

May 14, 2018, 08:34:09 AM
Schüsse von Wilderern am Tag sind ja nicht ungewöhnlich, doch aus mehreren Richtungen und automatischen Waffen doch bisher hier nicht üblich gewesen. Möge niemand anderen Schaden zufügen und sich mit Abstehen davon jeder beschützen.
 

Johann

May 14, 2018, 01:06:38 AM
It's not an accident that you came here and it will be not an accident whether one stays, comes back or leaves for another becoming or goes beyond.
 

Johann

May 13, 2018, 06:51:53 AM
Mag da keiner seine Mutter an dem Tag vergessen zu ehren.
 

Johann

May 11, 2018, 02:11:37 PM
Nyom Marcel.

Schlangentag und -nacht heute. Wem mag man was vergönnen? Der Schlange? Den Mäusen? Metta & Samvega oder umgekehrt? Mal angstlos Hunger, mal Angst, mal Maus, mal Schlange, essen, gegessen, verfolgen, gejagt...
 

Marcel

May 11, 2018, 11:57:36 AM
 :-* :-* :-*
ehrwürdiger bhante
 :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

May 10, 2018, 04:00:02 PM
Nyom Marcel.

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