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Futureal- In regard of what or whom are you loyal?
« on: March 16, 2018, 05:26:29 AM »

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I think you know what i will answer and i can guess what you will say after, seeing this i don't want to engage for this will lead to a lot of talk and restlessness. I rather save my energy for fighting demons and the Householders at DW are not demons, they are confused people and i have no resentment for them in my heart.

That's nice and good. How ever, why, as been asked serval times, is there certain resentment toward people of guṇa (goodness), starting by parents, teacher, the Gems? Even no resentment would be to less. Isn't it that people usually seek for refuge below, Nyom Ruslan . Are "only" loyal toward that what is assumed that it can be controled, that of what gives easy selfestimate?

So what is there that makes one loyal toward those below, maybe till equal?

My person guesses that Upasaka does neither know before what my person will say, is totally unattractive and in a firm grasped movie as his refuge and reality. But just a guess.

Not sure if abstaining from shows and movies. If they are consumed for increasing Samvega, it would be not really a break.



Look at how they sacrifice toward the mass below. Crazy or the normal deal?

Lyric, if wishing to turn of music and not liking to see "shows"



There are assembling where neither the entertainer not the entertained know about of what they nurish on, even if the signs, sounds, smells, tast, touches and ideas would carry the way out of being entertained (upādāna), to release. Even if it carries food for samvega as well.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

"Gotami, the qualities of which you may know, 'These qualities lead to passion, not to dispassion; to being fettered, not to being unfettered; to accumulating, not to shedding; to self-aggrandizement, not to modesty; to discontent, not to contentment; to entanglement, not to seclusion; to laziness, not to aroused persistence; to being burdensome, not to being unburdensome': You may categorically hold, 'This is not the Dhamma, this is not the Vinaya, this is not the Teacher's instruction.'

"As for the qualities of which you may know, 'These qualities lead to dispassion, not to passion; to being unfettered, not to being fettered; to shedding, not to accumulating; to modesty, not to self-aggrandizement; to contentment, not to discontent; to seclusion, not to entanglement; to aroused persistence, not to laziness; to being unburdensome, not to being burdensome': You may categorically hold, 'This is the Dhamma, this is the Vinaya, this is the Teacher's instruction.'"

It's not possible for stingy people to reach Jhana, path and fruit, release.

That is why perfection in virtue leads to perfection in generosity.

Fallen into materialism, spirital materialims, possessing very much, as the Buddha often said, such people are for the most destinated to lose all their goodness (guṇa).

Attracted by vaṇṇa, there are really less willing to lead a real Dhamma-war and seek where there are real challenges. They prever to entertain and being entertained, like the pig-raiser and their pig, one existence this, then that. Nothing real and now futureal or just retrofuturish.

They have no idea when greed, hatred and delusion arises, not even if short released they remember what has going on. It's something different to be able to write and spell many in common convention or to see as it is, possible even share refuge, path and taste of release. That is why Dhamma-maccharia is the most ugly stinginess, one does not give if up to entertain or being entertained.
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Re: Futureal- In regard of what or whom are you loyal?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2018, 06:37:37 AM »
Nyom Ruslan ,

since not even able to doubt and investigate your for real taken preoccupations and movies, still strong bound to believe that sense and it's objects are real, be sure that you are still capable to kill father, mother, arahant...

There are many like you out there, actually already dwelling in low realms caused by their over estimation. The list of those approaching impressed by simply seeking for friends for maintaining their illusion is long here. The list of Robin hoods, taking Dhamma as means for outwardly fights, desiring victory.

If any of the devoted follower would ever act similar as my person outwardly acts, know him or her as not related. There are no fools and outwardly fighters here, non who has not deeply respect in regard of the gods of all levels.

Those having fallen into the traps of young gifted pride, have all been rich on puñña, all "smart", auspicious, children of rich middle class parents and it's easy to imagen of how blessed they would have been if they would have been grown tamed and corrupted by google and it's monks.

That are primaly your, and of yours topics, the loyal and capable one. And it's possible to trace many stories of "equal" here. Starting by founders, supporters... soon having become fearful people, haunted by "enemies" even if their parents approach.

Since one needs to work out his bounds by one self, my person likes to leave two teachings behind to consider wisely to increase proper fear and remorse in regard of basic unskillful and to get right of improper fear and doubt in regard of skillful sacrifices.

Dahara Sutta: Young

Dhp 72

Make your own wise choices, tool have been given. A fool can not be stopped to cut himself "eternally" off, as a wise will use it for his benefit seeing fools act.

That is why children of holly parents, it they come home with a blue eye, get probably fast the secound.
How ever foolish, if not learning the lesson given in such, then there is no hope at all.

Again, by confessing and then restrain for min the time having suppressed and by reasoning justified, is means for soon reconciliation and a possibility to really go on and forth.

By harming and destroying those you depend on, your parents, teacher, leader, brahmans and Samanas, you only cut off your own future for long long time and those you had trusted, those having corrupted you, they will be also out off reach then...

It's not easy for you having grown up in your previous, being your grandfather, destroyed generation. You just fight yourself, one time on this stand, another on that. If there would be no debts, there wouldn't be that defilements of compassion, if there is no more addiction to sugar, sensual pleasure, you would not be touched if your forest is cut of for sugar-can plantations.

Understand? And restlessness comes from having fallen into transgression.

Start to practice basic and seriously abstain from taking of what is not given, do not even nurish on stolen knowlege and prefer to starve, for there is not a little real wealth possible to gain, just a big hurting head.

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Re: Futureal- In regard of what or whom are you loyal?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2018, 07:14:33 AM »
Look at your following, this fools, and how they act on DW. Does that make you pride of "your" childs? They don't even know that you will soon need to abound them when the backwards arise of that poision "now is my chance to win"...

When coming to mind:

If looking for good work to calm down, there are serial suttas of which it would be good to translate them dedicated for the Sangha of the eight directions, if having the skills and no more need to use what really given (e.g. third part easy means of maras).

http://sangham.net/index.php/topic,7860.0.html

http://sangham.net/index.php/topic,8186.0.html

http://sangham.net/index.php/topic,7896.0.html

http://sangham.net/index.php/topic,8133.0.html

http://sangham.net/index.php/topic,7906.0.html

And the Sutta of self, devas or powerful monks reminding previous sages (low and real sotapannas by birth) on the path of going forth.
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Re: Futureal- In regard of what or whom are you loyal?
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2018, 08:17:03 AM »
i dont care what you think and i dont even read your post. have a good day and please stop being obsessed with my person.

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Re: Futureal- In regard of what or whom are you loyal?
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2018, 09:40:04 AM »
i dont care what you think and i dont even read your post.
That's what Nyom Ruslan has been told since his arriving and still is, because all he seeks of is support of his ego-trip. Not listening to anyone, holding him, his objects, for real and if fading for enemies.

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have a good day and please stop being obsessed with my person.

"I rather save my energy for fighting demons and the Householders at DW are not demons, they are confused people and i have no resentment for them in my heart."...  ^-^ "wake up little Susi, or better Susi beware of devil" or is it really required that your grandmother sees you making striptease on the table in public?

Do as you wish *schmunzel*
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Re: Futureal- In regard of what or whom are you loyal?
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2018, 11:00:49 AM »
The only thing i will tell you is that if you hold view that Ruslan has no attainments and no superhuman knowledge, you are slandering me with worst accusations and it will be a blocking obstacle for you on your Path if you are wrong in your view. According to commentary you should not try to attain higher Path and Heavenly Birth is blocked for you if you are wrong in your view and you Revile a Noble One.



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Re: Futureal- In regard of what or whom are you loyal?
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2018, 02:55:44 PM »
"Mirror, mirror on the wall..." *schmunzel*



Try to close the door from outside, and leave all keys inside, including all to be "identified", before, householder Ruslan 2 , so that you learn to know of what is vimutti and what not without the need of commentary. That you get a small idea how far this path still is.

"One time in future I like to become a monk...", you are really "funny" young householder. Holding sign, sound, smell, taste, touch and ideas for real.

Try to learn to ask your self always "sure?" before you act.

Maybe you will be more attentive when you sleep, later.

Meanwhile something to think about: "Humorously" Dharma refections

My person put your old topic outside, so that you may have the chance to get interested about your deeds and what you did, since not interested in words of others and since avoiding them (your deeds) by thinking you didn't, it was not you, thinking you are beyound actions of misconduct.

Welcome Ruslan (pewpewrongview) - Willkommen pewpewrongview

Let it be known if you could go through it by asking "sure" in all regards, that it can be put into no-public again, because it's really cringey... you know.

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Der Benutzer hat folgenden Kommentar dazu geschrieben:
can you delete this, i spoke too quickly as i felt attacked by you and you made assumptions about me and my friends

Quick are parents, Arahant killed, quick are Buddhas cause shed blood, quick is a Sangha split, quick one acts on fatal wrong view....

What are you capable to? Sure?
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