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2019 Jan 16 16:33:43
Cheav Villa: Things to read :D

2019 Jan 16 16:27:50
Cheav Villa: Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 16 15:28:02
Johann: The Story of Culekasataka (Maha Kassapa and his wife in former life)

2019 Jan 16 15:20:13
Johann: ថ្ងៃ ថ្មី មួូយ ជា ឳកាស ថ្មី មួយ ទៀត។ យើង មិន អាច ដឹង មុន នូវ អ្វី ដែល នឹង កើតឡើង ថ្ងៃ ស្អែក

2019 Jan 16 04:07:43
Khemakumara: Nyom Chanroth

2019 Jan 16 02:09:37
Chanroth: សាធុសាធុសាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 16 02:07:10
Johann: ថ្ងៃ ថ្មី មួូយ ជា ឳកាស ថ្មី មួយ ទៀត។ យើង មិន អាច ដឹង មុន នូវ អ្វី ដែល នឹង កើតឡើង ថ្ងៃ ស្អែក

2019 Jan 16 02:06:36
Chanroth: ជំរាបសួរ Moritz

2019 Jan 16 02:06:31
Johann: "Another day, another possibility. We don't know what tomorrow might be."

2019 Jan 15 19:41:08
Khemakumara: Nyom Moritz

2019 Jan 15 19:38:38
Moritz: Vandami Bhante (Khemakumara) _/\_

2019 Jan 15 17:13:16
Johann: Nyom Puthy, maybe this helps: ការរបៀបឆ្លេីយនៅក្នុង website .

2019 Jan 15 16:10:29
Ieng Puthy: ព្រះអង្គករុណាសូមថ្វាយបង្គំុលាសិនហេីយ 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

2019 Jan 15 16:07:58
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាគ្រាន់តែចូលអាន ករុណាមិនទាន់យល់ពីរបៀបឆ្លេីយនៅក្នុងwebsite នៅឡេីយទេ ព្រះអង្គ 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

2019 Jan 15 16:00:58
Johann: How ever one feels inspired, has joy, likes to give into.  How can I use the forum purposefully, for myself, as well as for others?

2019 Jan 15 15:57:55
Johann: No need to use all possibilities for merits for one alone but good to invite others to join and become more independend till free.

2019 Jan 15 15:04:39
Johann: no requirement to do all, merits step by step. "The path to nibbana is hard", they say, and don't do even little steps, Nyom. As inspired, its at least a working and concentration camp, Devas delight in creation, Devas having contr. over the creation of others.

2019 Jan 15 14:53:43
Cheav Villa: ព្រះអង្គការបកប្រែមកជាខ្មែរ  មានខុសច្រើនណាស់  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 15 14:49:16
Khemakumara: leng Puthy

2019 Jan 15 14:48:29
Khemakumara: Nyom leng Pitts

2019 Jan 15 14:45:35
Johann: There is a lot of new for many. If the Nyom Ladies like to help in translating here and there a little, it might be easier for khmer-speaking monks to get informed well.

2019 Jan 15 14:25:23
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ ព្រះអង្គ Bhante Khemakumara

2019 Jan 15 13:33:34
Khemakumara: Bhante Muni

2019 Jan 15 13:32:47
Khemakumara: Bhante Johann _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 15 13:27:53
Johann: Bhante Muni

2019 Jan 15 10:46:40
Johann: But a topic can be opened everywhere and can then be moved.

2019 Jan 15 10:45:27
Johann: There is also a Link to direct Requests for Teachings - link, so things get not lost.

2019 Jan 15 10:44:12
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាព្រះអង្គ🙏🏻អរព្រះគុុណ ព្រះអង្គ

2019 Jan 15 10:42:55
Johann: Good place is surely at  Dhammatalks - (dhamma desanā)

2019 Jan 15 10:35:06
Johann: Talkbox is not proper, just for greating and small-talk

2019 Jan 15 10:24:47
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ព្រះអង្គ តេីមានធម៌អ្វីដែលអាចកំចាត់ធម៌លោភៈល្អិតនៅក្នុងចិត្តបានដែរឬទេ ?ព្រះអង្គ Vandami Banthe 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Jan 15 10:21:37
Johann: Just open a new topic best, Nyom Puthy (requires some bhava-chanda)

2019 Jan 15 10:17:22
Johann: Nyom Puthy

2019 Jan 15 10:07:10
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ ព្រះអង្គ Vandami Banthe

2019 Jan 15 10:01:15
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ ព្រះអង្គមុនី! ករុណាមានសំណួរ១អំពី អនុស្ស័យកិលេសមាន៧ គឺ 1-កាមរាគានុស្ស័យ 2-ភវនុស្ស័យ3

2019 Jan 15 09:31:36
Cheav Villa:  :)  _/\_

2019 Jan 15 09:27:54
Chanroth: ខ្ញុំព្រះករុណាសូមថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គមុន្នី ពីរអាស្រមថ្មទូក_/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 15 09:21:46
Chanroth: បាតជំរាបសួរបងស្រី ខ្ញុំមិនទាន់បានធ្វេីនៅឡេីយទេ ពីព្រោះខ្ញុំឈឺ បានធូហេីយ តែមិនទាន់បាត់ថ្លោះករនៅឡេីយ _/\_

2019 Jan 15 08:57:49
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គមុនី  _/\_

2019 Jan 15 07:34:19
Johann: Bhante Khemakumara

2019 Jan 15 05:57:47
Cheav Villa: តើពូកំពុងជួយការងារលោកតាមែនទេ?តើនៅអាស្រមមានកង្វះខាតអ្វីទេនៅពេលនេះ

2019 Jan 15 05:54:51
Cheav Villa: ជំរាបសួរពូចាន់រ័ត្ន _/\_

2019 Jan 15 01:12:12
Johann: And "we" wouldn't always know or find out but need to relay on one who know

2019 Jan 15 01:06:48
Johann: There are two kinds of sadness and happiness, of which one of each is conductive for liberation, one not.

2019 Jan 15 01:02:24
Mohan Gnanathilake: May we always be able to find out for ourselves how much attachment we accumulate, and whether this brings us happiness or sorrow! Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!

2019 Jan 15 01:00:52
Mohan Gnanathilake: Mögen wir immer  selbst herausfinden kӧnnen, wie viel Anhaftung wir anhäufen und ob  diese Anhaftung uns die Frӧhlichkeit oder  die Traurigkeit bringt! Dhamma Grüβe aus Sri Lanka!

2019 Jan 14 13:52:41
Johann: Nyom Puthy. May you all have good Dhamma conversations with each other, don't be shy on that. Atma will go to rest.

2019 Jan 14 13:48:00
Johann: ញោម ចាន់រ័ត្ន

2019 Jan 14 12:49:01
Cheav Villa: អរព្រះគុណព្រះអង្គ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 14 12:36:20
Mohan Gnanathilake: May we possess the causes of blissfulness always! Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!

2019 Jan 14 12:35:18
Mohan Gnanathilake: Mӧgen wir immer die Ursachen der Glückseligkeit besitzen! Dhamma Grüβe  aus Sri Lanka!

2019 Jan 14 10:20:32
Johann: "នាងវិសាខា ក្រាបបង្គំទូលថា ថ្ងៃនេះខ្ញុំម្ចាស់រក្សាឧបោសថៈព្រះអង្គ។"...

2019 Jan 14 09:49:40
Chanroth:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 14 06:59:34
Cheav Villa: Jain-Upossathaកូណាមុិនទាន់យល់ន័យនៃពាក្យនេះទេ _/\_

2019 Jan 14 05:12:41
Johann: "មិនមែនជារបស់ខ្លួន"... មែន(sense)ទុក្ខឬមិន? Where?

2019 Jan 14 04:57:55
Johann: Buddha and Savaka do not teach Jain-Uposatha: អ្នកណា​មាទុក្ខ? , Sadhu

2019 Jan 14 04:50:21
Johann: ជាធម៌អសេង្ខបុគ្គល! មានទេមិនមាន ... ការនិយាយអំពីសត្វ។ ធម៌ទាំងអស់មានមូលហេតុ ដូច្នេះ: រឿងដំបូងនៅលើកដំបូង!

2019 Jan 14 04:21:59
Cheav Villa: មិនមែនជារបស់ខ្លួន ជាអនត្តាធម៌ ជាធម៌អសេង្ខបុគ្គល  _/\_

2019 Jan 14 04:16:00
Johann: មិនមែនជារបស់ខ្លួនទេ = មិនមែនទុក្ខទេ

2019 Jan 14 04:06:00
Johann: Nyom Puthy

2019 Jan 14 04:05:16
Johann: ទុក្ខំ អនិច្ចំ អន្តតា !

2019 Jan 14 02:18:42
Chanroth: ទុក្ខំ អនិច្ចំ អន្តតា

2019 Jan 13 15:16:49
Johann: First things first , very recommended, hearing the Uposatha of the Jains from the Villages all the time here.

2019 Jan 13 15:05:49
Johann: again and again coming back to Dhamma, Punja? Habits become destinies.

2019 Jan 13 14:53:42
Johann: coming back seems to be niccaŋ

2019 Jan 13 14:40:52
Cheav Villa: អនិច្ចំ *sgift*

2019 Jan 13 14:29:43
Ieng Puthy:  Chom reap leah , good bye🙏🏼

2019 Jan 13 14:18:50
Moritz: Chom reap leah, good bye _/\_

2019 Jan 13 14:11:50
Ieng Puthy: Hello Master Morithz🙏🏼

2019 Jan 13 14:07:24
Moritz: Hello Ieng Puthy _/\_

2019 Jan 13 14:07:16
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Jan 13 13:54:34
Ieng Puthy: ជំរាបសួរ បងចាន់រ័ត្ន Bong Chanroth 🙏🏼សូមបងឆាប់បានជាសះស្បេីយ

2019 Jan 13 13:49:26
Johann: Meister Moritz

2019 Jan 13 09:17:06
Chanroth: ខ្ញំបានជាហើយ តែវេទនាបានកើតឡើងចំពោះខ្ញុំ បញ្ហាថ្លោះកករ :-\

2019 Jan 13 07:49:41
Cheav Villa: ជំរាបសួរពូចាន់រ័ត្ន ពូបានធូរស្បើយហើយមើលទៅ :D _/\_

2019 Jan 13 07:48:35
Cheav Villa: Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 13 07:47:10
Johann: May all spent a meritful Siladay today or tomorrow.

2019 Jan 13 05:07:45
Chanroth: ជំរាបសួរបងស្រី វីឡាខ្ញុំបាទchanroth _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 13 00:05:39
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាព្រះអង្គ Bhante 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Jan 12 09:04:48
Johann: Nyom Puthy

2019 Jan 11 13:49:09
Cheav Villa: Thank you Bang Thy. Good come in and out  :D _/\_

2019 Jan 11 13:41:49
Johann: Sadhu

2019 Jan 11 13:13:35
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻ជំរាបសួរបងប្អូនធម្មមិត្តទាំងអស់គ្នា chumreap sour Dhamma friends !  May all have a good evening

2019 Jan 11 13:04:15
Ieng Puthy: ករុណា ព្រះអង្គ Bhante 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Jan 09 17:17:52
Cheav Villa: Bhante  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 09 16:12:53
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Jan 09 05:06:55
Johann: Nyom Puthy

2019 Jan 09 00:43:24
Johann: Sadhu

2019 Jan 08 16:15:17
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ​ Khemakumara Bhante

2019 Jan 08 16:13:20
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ​ Inddanano Bhante

2019 Jan 08 16:11:09
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 កូរុណាថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ​ vandami Bhente

2019 Jan 08 12:48:21
Moritz: May all have a good evening _/\_ Chom reap leah _/\_

2019 Jan 08 12:38:37
Moritz: :) Sayun suesday _/\_

2019 Jan 08 12:34:56
Cheav Villa: Thank you Master Moritz _/\_ Well and unwell are welcoming  :D

2019 Jan 08 12:22:05
Johann: Good to read and Sadhu

2019 Jan 08 12:17:08
Moritz: I am fine. Thanks. I hope Bhante and everyone around is well as well   _/\_

2019 Jan 08 12:11:29
Johann: Master Moritz. How is Nyom?

2019 Jan 08 12:07:29
Moritz: I think this design with shoutbox on top is a good expedient solution.

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[ATI.eu] Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« on: April 17, 2018, 04:41:05 PM »
My person is not sure if such would be a possible solution to make the share of merits more accessible: today came across "dokuwiki ", which for my person limited understanding looks simple and very accessible for multiple users and multiple languages and seems to be more independent from such as usual databases. If right, in this case, there would be also a SMF plugin, if such would be useful.

So my person carefully asked the developer, Mr. Andreas Gohr, if the use of his general gift is welcome and possible for ZzE, it's user and purpose. Not sure if such an unusual approach might be answered.

Also not sure if it might match certain "requirements" such as "pages visible only to certain groups" (as for CSCD for example) or how things like "how to get the datas into such a wiki", style, doc-info, khmer-font... instalation, ... file-structur...

Just thought to make it to a topic and leave it up to ideas and inspirations as they might arise.

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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2018, 02:07:11 PM »
Mr. Andreas Gohr, surely very busy, (surely thinking "what a strangers approach ...") generously gave even an answer via email, making his joy clear, that anybody feeling "having joy" in make use of it, may do so and enjoy it's use.

Sadhu!

My person has of course no idea how much program maintenance (updates, re-coding...), it would require, but it might be a possibility to make giving and sharing, dedicated for the Sangha of the eight directions, and it's follower, easier.

What does Nyom Moritz think?

Also, of course Nyom Danilo , and all the many others?

If certain permission things could be made in regard of public and certain user visibility, the Sanghas CSCD copy could be also complete added as root. Build up on accesstoinsight.eu "anew".

Possibility of giving, if standard and structure is good considered, accessible for many without any special IT-knowledge necessary.
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2018, 11:42:34 PM »
Mr. Andreas Gohr, surely very busy, (surely thinking "what a strangers approach ...") generously gave even an answer via email, making his joy clear, that anybody feeling "having joy" in make use of it, may do so and enjoy it's use.

Sadhu!

Sadhu!

My person has of course no idea how much program maintenance (updates, re-coding...), it would require, but it might be a possibility to make giving and sharing, dedicated for the Sangha of the eight directions, and it's follower, easier.

What does Nyom Moritz think?
It looks very useful.
It might even be practical to maintain ZzE as a Wiki with this as well. It is possible, apparently, to use this SMF forum for login authentication , and to set access rights for groups and users , and if I understand correctly there are possibilities to define own styles and tags as well , but not sure how much.

Of course it would probably require a good amount of time. Maybe I could look into it on the weekend.

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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2018, 03:30:17 AM »
I've taken a quick look. Yes, apparently doesn't require technical knowledge to work on it.
I might have a better overview when I take the time to read the manual hereafter.

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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2018, 06:32:27 PM »
I don't know what to do with the DokuWiki right now and don't really have free time now to think about it yet.
I am uploading the DokuWiki package at the moment on the ZzE server to set it up later.
The uploading will take some time and then one has to run some install script and set up some database etc.
I am postponing that to "later".

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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2018, 02:05:59 PM »
Sadhu Nyom Moritz , and nothing to worry, nothing that requires to causes stress and not just joy.

* Johann : Just for possible general support: It's always good, if wishing to sacrifices something, to think "just" on the part able for now. Prepear, place, dedicate and give proper, so that it can be used as it is further and then rejoice at it. Later one might feel the wish to do this or that, continue. In this way one can "tick off" an action each time, recoice with it, and keeps ones ways open, is not troubled to possible have a duty out of giving. It's of course somehow noble to wish to cause this or that come into being, but such often leads to unwholesome states and actions. It's good to trace the freedom within it, and how freedom of choice is different of wish. To sustain a line of choices requires steady paccaya (time, skill, material things...). Paccaya, is also the usually word for money, if speaking "polite" in monastic areas... But actually it can be always compaired with that. If having the wish to give something worthy $1000 and having now $5. If thinking "oh, I will collect all before, and then give" it might be the case that this and that comes in between and after what ever long time, the sometimes collected is again gone into this and that. If on the other side, one put the 5 out of range but still holding on it, or do not proper give, it might lay just there where it has been put, end if not just gone, the housekeeper might pick it up. But if just done that much, with joy given "may it be for this and that come to be". This deed is done. Nothing can make a full acting undone. And tomorrow, who knows, but it's perfection for this part ripes. Hope, better trust that this was a useful help and if not possible misunderstood as another "I need to do..." but simply "I can" and it makes joy. Vipassana-practice, actually. As for skillful mindstates (not to mix with desire toward and object outward), the Buddha said, never ever delay actions on it. So it should be also not misunderstood as pacification "don't worry, merits can be made if old". Maybe, and it's actually a general advice, not on this case or for this here, this advices help a little , when it is a good time to put into something and make merits.
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2018, 11:26:31 AM »
Atma has asked his nephew, Nyom Harald , if he would like to do and give here something, remembering that he started to learn a skill in this sphere. Of course it's not sure if he will feel inspired since not familar with the object and ways around it at all.

How ever, Atma told him that Nyom Moritz might be the person in for what ever technical issues and accesses and that Nyom Sophorn is the giver and owner of the possibilities here. Just that you are also informed in the case Nyom Harald might approach and that you knoew that certain things might seem alien to him.

But over all, nothing to feel urged or asked to by this.
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2018, 01:51:36 PM »
Nyom Harald replied kindly, but in regard of this here and unknown spheres, it seems that being busy might not allow him to get much into the topic. Just to inform.
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2018, 11:21:51 PM »
Looks similar for me at the moment.
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2018, 05:08:34 AM »
Does Nyom Moritz think my person would be able to install and configure it with his given means? Time, willing to sacrifice, shoudn't be a problem.
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2018, 07:48:32 AM »
Ich weiß es nicht. Das Grundpaket ist installiert.
Aber was man nun damit machen und wie man alles einrichtet, überblicke ich bisher noch nicht.

Das Wiki ist momentan zu erreichen unter zugangzureinsicht.org/dokuwiki . (Weiterleitung von accesstoinsight.eu im Moment keine, weil 'accesstoinsight.eu' ins Unterverzeichnis 'zugangzureinsicht.org/html' weiterleitet; kann man aber alles leicht woanders hin schieben).

Ich habe noch nicht verstanden, wie man die Benutzerdatenbank von SMF zur Anmeldung benutzt.
Es gibt zunächst erst mal ein Admin-Konto, das nicht mit der SMF-Datenbank verknüpft ist. Namen und Passwort habe ich Ihnen per E-Mail geschickt.

Habe gerade ein Backup vom aktuellen Zustand gemacht und bei mir gespeichert. Also kann man alles mal ausprobieren und braucht keine Angst zu haben, etwas kaputt zu machen.

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I don't know. Basic package is installed.
But I don't have a good overview yet about what can be done with it and how to configure everything.

The wiki is reachable under zugangzureinsicht.org/dokuwiki . (At the moment no redirection from 'accesstoinsight.eu', because 'accesstoinsight.eu' redirects to the subdirectory 'zugangzureinsicht.org/html'; but that can all be easily moved around.)

I have not yet understood how to set up DokuWiki to use the SMF user database for login authentication.
For now, there is one admin account, not linked to the SMF database. I have sent user name and password to you by email.

I have made a backup of the current state and saved it here locally on my computer. So one can try out everything without worrying about breaking things.

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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2018, 10:17:17 AM »
Sadhu!

Atma wird sich das Umleitungsfile ansehen und versuchen accesstoinsight.eu frei zu bekommen, ohne irgendwo tote Links durch fehlendes redirect zu machen, daß wenn möglich Verzeichnisse wie "wiki" wegfallen und ati.eu direkt als Wurzel dienen kann, wenn es dokuwiki erlaubt. Und Atma wird etwas erforschen, wie am besten einen Verzeichnisbaum aufzubauen, und, und und.

Mag Nyom Moritz ja keine Zeit, notwendig für Lebensunterhalt und Verpflichtungsminimierung da opfern.
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2018, 01:19:39 PM »
Nyom Danilo , Atma has set an Admin account for Nyom.

My person set also an own so that user Admin stays free for Nyom Moritz.

Currently trying to figure out how to set up a structure, but not even came as far as how to create a page. Lets see. Maybe missing the side bar or certain commands. (since not sure if a all time side bar is that nice)

ok... just using new id in url and then one can create  ^-^

- root/

containing general info pages, similar to zze

- root/tipitaka
- root/library
...

not sure about language, script and author hierarchy for now. As for the root for tipitaka the various CSCD pali text would be good to use (visible just for certain groups, like given by vipassana institute)

Much joy be exploring
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2018, 02:07:56 PM »
My person has chanced htaccess of ati.eu


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Redirect /html/ http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/
Redirect /lib/ http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/lib/
Redirect /ptf/ http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/pft/
Redirect /tipitaka/ http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/tipitaka/

this should match 99% of existing links and the ati.eu and its root should be free (aside of this four directories)
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2018, 03:52:38 AM »
Times ago, in regard of login, Atma had seen about a bridge .

If at least necessary or leaving login, creating account or edits even without open... my person does not know which is easier and better.

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