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[ATI.eu] Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« on: April 17, 2018, 04:41:05 PM »
My person is not sure if such would be a possible solution to make the share of merits more accessible: today came across "dokuwiki ", which for my person limited understanding looks simple and very accessible for multiple users and multiple languages and seems to be more independent from such as usual databases. If right, in this case, there would be also a SMF plugin, if such would be useful.

So my person carefully asked the developer, Mr. Andreas Gohr, if the use of his general gift is welcome and possible for ZzE, it's user and purpose. Not sure if such an unusual approach might be answered.

Also not sure if it might match certain "requirements" such as "pages visible only to certain groups" (as for CSCD for example) or how things like "how to get the datas into such a wiki", style, doc-info, khmer-font... instalation, ... file-structur...

Just thought to make it to a topic and leave it up to ideas and inspirations as they might arise.

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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2018, 02:07:11 PM »
Mr. Andreas Gohr, surely very busy, (surely thinking "what a strangers approach ...") generously gave even an answer via email, making his joy clear, that anybody feeling "having joy" in make use of it, may do so and enjoy it's use.

Sadhu!

My person has of course no idea how much program maintenance (updates, re-coding...), it would require, but it might be a possibility to make giving and sharing, dedicated for the Sangha of the eight directions, and it's follower, easier.

What does Nyom Moritz think?

Also, of course Nyom Danilo , and all the many others?

If certain permission things could be made in regard of public and certain user visibility, the Sanghas CSCD copy could be also complete added as root. Build up on accesstoinsight.eu "anew".

Possibility of giving, if standard and structure is good considered, accessible for many without any special IT-knowledge necessary.
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2018, 11:42:34 PM »
Mr. Andreas Gohr, surely very busy, (surely thinking "what a strangers approach ...") generously gave even an answer via email, making his joy clear, that anybody feeling "having joy" in make use of it, may do so and enjoy it's use.

Sadhu!

Sadhu!

My person has of course no idea how much program maintenance (updates, re-coding...), it would require, but it might be a possibility to make giving and sharing, dedicated for the Sangha of the eight directions, and it's follower, easier.

What does Nyom Moritz think?
It looks very useful.
It might even be practical to maintain ZzE as a Wiki with this as well. It is possible, apparently, to use this SMF forum for login authentication , and to set access rights for groups and users , and if I understand correctly there are possibilities to define own styles and tags as well , but not sure how much.

Of course it would probably require a good amount of time. Maybe I could look into it on the weekend.

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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2018, 03:30:17 AM »
I've taken a quick look. Yes, apparently doesn't require technical knowledge to work on it.
I might have a better overview when I take the time to read the manual hereafter.

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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2018, 06:32:27 PM »
I don't know what to do with the DokuWiki right now and don't really have free time now to think about it yet.
I am uploading the DokuWiki package at the moment on the ZzE server to set it up later.
The uploading will take some time and then one has to run some install script and set up some database etc.
I am postponing that to "later".

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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2018, 02:05:59 PM »
Sadhu Nyom Moritz , and nothing to worry, nothing that requires to causes stress and not just joy.

* Johann : Just for possible general support: It's always good, if wishing to sacrifices something, to think "just" on the part able for now. Prepear, place, dedicate and give proper, so that it can be used as it is further and then rejoice at it. Later one might feel the wish to do this or that, continue. In this way one can "tick off" an action each time, recoice with it, and keeps ones ways open, is not troubled to possible have a duty out of giving. It's of course somehow noble to wish to cause this or that come into being, but such often leads to unwholesome states and actions. It's good to trace the freedom within it, and how freedom of choice is different of wish. To sustain a line of choices requires steady paccaya (time, skill, material things...). Paccaya, is also the usually word for money, if speaking "polite" in monastic areas... But actually it can be always compaired with that. If having the wish to give something worthy $1000 and having now $5. If thinking "oh, I will collect all before, and then give" it might be the case that this and that comes in between and after what ever long time, the sometimes collected is again gone into this and that. If on the other side, one put the 5 out of range but still holding on it, or do not proper give, it might lay just there where it has been put, end if not just gone, the housekeeper might pick it up. But if just done that much, with joy given "may it be for this and that come to be". This deed is done. Nothing can make a full acting undone. And tomorrow, who knows, but it's perfection for this part ripes. Hope, better trust that this was a useful help and if not possible misunderstood as another "I need to do..." but simply "I can" and it makes joy. Vipassana-practice, actually. As for skillful mindstates (not to mix with desire toward and object outward), the Buddha said, never ever delay actions on it. So it should be also not misunderstood as pacification "don't worry, merits can be made if old". Maybe, and it's actually a general advice, not on this case or for this here, this advices help a little , when it is a good time to put into something and make merits.
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2018, 11:26:31 AM »
Atma has asked his nephew, Nyom Harald , if he would like to do and give here something, remembering that he started to learn a skill in this sphere. Of course it's not sure if he will feel inspired since not familar with the object and ways around it at all.

How ever, Atma told him that Nyom Moritz might be the person in for what ever technical issues and accesses and that Nyom Sophorn is the giver and owner of the possibilities here. Just that you are also informed in the case Nyom Harald might approach and that you knoew that certain things might seem alien to him.

But over all, nothing to feel urged or asked to by this.
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2018, 01:51:36 PM »
Nyom Harald replied kindly, but in regard of this here and unknown spheres, it seems that being busy might not allow him to get much into the topic. Just to inform.
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2018, 11:21:51 PM »
Looks similar for me at the moment.
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2018, 05:08:34 AM »
Does Nyom Moritz think my person would be able to install and configure it with his given means? Time, willing to sacrifice, shoudn't be a problem.
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2018, 07:48:32 AM »
Ich weiß es nicht. Das Grundpaket ist installiert.
Aber was man nun damit machen und wie man alles einrichtet, überblicke ich bisher noch nicht.

Das Wiki ist momentan zu erreichen unter zugangzureinsicht.org/dokuwiki . (Weiterleitung von accesstoinsight.eu im Moment keine, weil 'accesstoinsight.eu' ins Unterverzeichnis 'zugangzureinsicht.org/html' weiterleitet; kann man aber alles leicht woanders hin schieben).

Ich habe noch nicht verstanden, wie man die Benutzerdatenbank von SMF zur Anmeldung benutzt.
Es gibt zunächst erst mal ein Admin-Konto, das nicht mit der SMF-Datenbank verknüpft ist. Namen und Passwort habe ich Ihnen per E-Mail geschickt.

Habe gerade ein Backup vom aktuellen Zustand gemacht und bei mir gespeichert. Also kann man alles mal ausprobieren und braucht keine Angst zu haben, etwas kaputt zu machen.

_/\_

I don't know. Basic package is installed.
But I don't have a good overview yet about what can be done with it and how to configure everything.

The wiki is reachable under zugangzureinsicht.org/dokuwiki . (At the moment no redirection from 'accesstoinsight.eu', because 'accesstoinsight.eu' redirects to the subdirectory 'zugangzureinsicht.org/html'; but that can all be easily moved around.)

I have not yet understood how to set up DokuWiki to use the SMF user database for login authentication.
For now, there is one admin account, not linked to the SMF database. I have sent user name and password to you by email.

I have made a backup of the current state and saved it here locally on my computer. So one can try out everything without worrying about breaking things.

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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2018, 10:17:17 AM »
Sadhu!

Atma wird sich das Umleitungsfile ansehen und versuchen accesstoinsight.eu frei zu bekommen, ohne irgendwo tote Links durch fehlendes redirect zu machen, daß wenn möglich Verzeichnisse wie "wiki" wegfallen und ati.eu direkt als Wurzel dienen kann, wenn es dokuwiki erlaubt. Und Atma wird etwas erforschen, wie am besten einen Verzeichnisbaum aufzubauen, und, und und.

Mag Nyom Moritz ja keine Zeit, notwendig für Lebensunterhalt und Verpflichtungsminimierung da opfern.
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2018, 01:19:39 PM »
Nyom Danilo , Atma has set an Admin account for Nyom.

My person set also an own so that user Admin stays free for Nyom Moritz.

Currently trying to figure out how to set up a structure, but not even came as far as how to create a page. Lets see. Maybe missing the side bar or certain commands. (since not sure if a all time side bar is that nice)

ok... just using new id in url and then one can create  ^-^

- root/

containing general info pages, similar to zze

- root/tipitaka
- root/library
...

not sure about language, script and author hierarchy for now. As for the root for tipitaka the various CSCD pali text would be good to use (visible just for certain groups, like given by vipassana institute)

Much joy be exploring
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2018, 02:07:56 PM »
My person has chanced htaccess of ati.eu


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Redirect /html/ http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/
Redirect /lib/ http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/lib/
Redirect /ptf/ http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/pft/
Redirect /tipitaka/ http://zugangzureinsicht.org/html/tipitaka/

this should match 99% of existing links and the ati.eu and its root should be free (aside of this four directories)
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Re: Wiki, "dokuwiki" for ZzE-pages
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2018, 03:52:38 AM »
Times ago, in regard of login, Atma had seen about a bridge .

If at least necessary or leaving login, creating account or edits even without open... my person does not know which is easier and better.

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Der ehrwürdige bhante besitzt noch den pc ! Bhante idananno ist für 2 Tage nach phnom phen. Wenn bhante wieder. Da ist, werde ich ihn  fragen und mich darum kümmern dass bhante  einen Zugang zum onlinekloster bekommt!  :-* :-* :-* :-*
 

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Hat Bhante noch den alten PC und das USB modem? Wenn Nyom, nach fragen, seine Sim da reintut, kann er damit sangham.net erreichen. Atma Tel. Nr. 012 345 025 wenn Nyom etwas benötigt.
 

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Entwürdiger bhante Johann, alles fein hier! Ich kann nun, über mein altes Handy, auf das online-Kloster zugreifen!
 

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Entwürdiger bhante Johann, alles fein hier! Ich kann nun, über mein altes Handy, auf das online-Kloster zugreifen!
 

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Nyom? Marcel? Alles fein?
 

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Ich bin erst mal weg hier.
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Schüsse von Wilderern am Tag sind ja nicht ungewöhnlich, doch aus mehreren Richtungen und automatischen Waffen doch bisher hier nicht üblich gewesen. Möge niemand anderen Schaden zufügen und sich mit Abstehen davon jeder beschützen.
 

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Nyom Marcel.

Schlangentag und -nacht heute. Wem mag man was vergönnen? Der Schlange? Den Mäusen? Metta & Samvega oder umgekehrt? Mal angstlos Hunger, mal Angst, mal Maus, mal Schlange, essen, gegessen, verfolgen, gejagt...
 

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May 06, 2018, 05:12:29 AM
Vandami Bhante _/\_
Einen angenehmen Tag. _/\_
 

Johann

May 04, 2018, 12:18:14 PM
...And what is lack of food for the arising of unarisen sloth & drowsiness, or for the growth & increase of sloth & drowsiness once it has arisen? There is the potential for effort, the potential for exertion, the potential for striving. To foster appropriate attention to them: This is lack
 

Johann

May 04, 2018, 12:14:44 PM
...“Und was ist das Fehlen von Nahrung für unaufgekommene Faulheit und Trägheit, oder für das Wachsen und Mehren von Faulheit unf Trägheit, wenn einmal aufgekommen? Da ist das Vermögen für Anstrengung, das Vermögen für Ausübung, das Vermögen für Streben. Dafür passende Aufmerk
 

Sophorn

April 30, 2018, 02:59:48 AM
Sadhu.  :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

April 30, 2018, 01:04:45 AM
Ein hingabevolles Visakha-Fest, allen die es heute begehen, oder nochmal.


A devoted Visakha-fest for all who conduct it today, or again.[/en]
 

Johann

April 29, 2018, 08:42:23 AM
Sadhu!
 

Sophorn

April 29, 2018, 05:54:57 AM
Viel Segen und Einsicht heute an Vesakh Bochea!  :-* :-* :-*
 

Johann

April 29, 2018, 02:08:23 AM
Heute oder morgen gedenkt und erfreut man sich an Buddhas Geburt, Erwachen und letztes Dahinscheinden.

_/\_

- Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa -
 

Marcel

April 28, 2018, 02:58:36 PM
 :-* Ehrwürdiger Bhante  :-*

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