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2019 Nov 19 07:36:38
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 19 05:28:18
Johann: Being caught in relating, may they find the trace toward Unbond with ease and follow it eager for soon release.

2019 Nov 19 05:25:03
Johann: A meritful, joyful in Dhamma, Sila day today, those undertaking it today.

2019 Nov 18 05:41:01
Moritz: Chom reap leah, for now _/\_ May Bhante have a pleasent day. _/\_

2019 Nov 18 05:22:11
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Nov 18 05:20:39
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Nov 16 21:59:56
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 16 20:43:25
Johann: Ayasma Moritz

2019 Nov 14 22:46:22
Johann: Atma leaves the paranimmita-vasavatti deva and nimmanarati deva now to find good birth by themself, no more power left.

2019 Nov 14 22:00:48
Cheav Villa: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 14 21:39:00
Johann: Duties and Silas are words of same meaning, denoting "proper conduct and giving in ones relations where ne desires to have a good and safe stand"

2019 Nov 14 21:25:51
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 14 21:21:02
Johann: May all have good rest at the end of day, done ones duties or even a blessed done merits after that as well. My person is now off of energy and good to rest as well.

2019 Nov 14 13:43:11
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 14 10:35:51
Johann: Respecting the Devas one gains their respect and protection.

2019 Nov 14 10:34:40
Johann: Bhante. (Meawmane is a spirit from a Server in Bangkok)

2019 Nov 14 10:28:52
Khemakumara: Nyom Meawmane

2019 Nov 14 10:27:53
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2019 Nov 13 20:44:51
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 13 20:28:20
Johann: Bhante  _/\_ Nyom, Nyom

2019 Nov 13 13:19:14
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 13 11:54:18
Johann: Mahā (written), not moha (following civil transliteration of khmer, very unuseful, better following pali transliteration) "Deluded Wisdom Monastery" could be understood while "Great Wisdom Monastery"  :)

2019 Nov 13 10:22:14
Johann: mudita

2019 Nov 13 09:56:41
Cheav Villa: Kana now at Panha Moha Viheara, waiting for  Bhikkuni

2019 Nov 13 09:47:10
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 12 08:01:41
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 12 05:35:02
Khemakumara:  Sīlena nibbutiṁ yanti. Through virtue they go to Unbinding. May it be a fruit-and pathful Uposatha day.

2019 Nov 11 16:41:52
Varado: Happily indeed we live, we, for whom there is [nowhere] anything at all. We will feed on rapture like the Ābhassarā devas. Dh.v.200.

2019 Nov 11 11:40:45
Johann: Ven. Sirs  _/\_ (Kana trust that leave for some rest will not reduce Bhantes releasing joy here)

2019 Nov 11 11:13:48
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 11 11:06:19
Johann: May it be an auspicious end of the Vassa of the Noble ones, a deep Anapanasati day today, for all conducting the full moon uposatha today.

2019 Nov 11 06:00:43
Johann: " Happy/peaceful the area/custom of the Arahats, craving and wandering on having layed aside"?

2019 Nov 11 03:22:11
Johann: Of which would mean what, Lok Ta, if not wishing to use google or not given means?

2019 Nov 10 23:54:03
Varado: Sukhino vata arahanto taṇhā tesaṃ na vijjati _/\_

2019 Nov 10 19:51:07
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Ariyadhammika

2019 Nov 10 17:54:44
Johann: ភនតេ វ៉ាលិ

2019 Nov 10 14:42:47
Johann: Lok Ta  _/\_

2019 Nov 09 16:31:12
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 09 16:25:14
Johann: May Nyom and all have a safe travel

2019 Nov 09 16:03:41
Cheav Villa: Kana and kids Plan to go to Aural tomorrow, will leave Phnom Penh at 5am  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 09 15:41:39
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 09 15:37:40
Johann: Bhante Ariyadhammica, Nyom Villa

2019 Nov 09 15:35:16
Johann: Sadhu

2019 Nov 09 14:56:15
Varado: Homage to the Noble Sangha _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 09 14:55:15
Varado: Blessed is the arising of Buddhas. Blessed is the explaining of the true teaching. Blessed is concord in the community of bhikkhus. Of those in concord, blessed is their practice of austerity.

2019 Nov 09 14:53:06
Johann: Ven Grandfather, Nyom Annaleana,

2019 Nov 09 01:57:47
Moritz: Vandami, Bhante Varado _/\_

2019 Nov 09 01:43:05
Varado: Pūjā ca pūjanīyānaṃ

2019 Nov 09 00:44:14
Johann: Worthy those on path or reached the aim

2019 Nov 08 22:36:29
Varado: Homage to those elder bhikkhus of long-standing who have long gone forth, the fathers and leaders of the Sangha. _/\_

2019 Nov 08 20:16:23
Johann: May the Venerables allow my persons leave, running out of battery.  _/\_

2019 Nov 08 20:09:51
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu!

2019 Nov 08 20:09:14
Varado: Homage to Good Friends. For this is the entire holy life. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 08 20:07:04
Varado: Homage to the Good Friends. For this is the entire holy life. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 08 19:29:09
Varado: Thanks for summary. I send article on milk. Anything else?

2019 Nov 08 18:53:24
Varado: Also greed, hatred, and delusion. Tīni akusalamūlāni: lobho akusalamūlaṃ doso akusalamūlaṃ moho akusalamūlaṃ (D.3.214).

2019 Nov 08 18:36:34
Johann: So does it, so does it, for Bhikkhus, layman, laywoman as well. And what is the root of stinginess? Ingratitude (wrong view).

2019 Nov 08 18:30:56
Varado: Possessing five qualities, a bhikkhuni is deposited in hell as if brought there. What five? She is miserly with dwellings, families, gains, praise, and the Dhamma (A.3.139). Pañcahi bhikkhave dhammehi samannāgatā bhikkhunī yathābhataṃ nikkhittā evaṃ niraye: katamehi pañcahi: Āvāsamaccha

2019 Nov 08 18:23:39
Varado: Macchariya for lodgings, maybe?

2019 Nov 08 18:01:17
Johann: Kana saw that Bhikkhunis has even a rule in regard of macchariya, for Vineyya in their Vinaya.

2019 Nov 08 17:58:14
Johann: So does it dear Ven. Grandfather, so does it. Amacchariya is the domain of the Noble Ones, beginning by the stream to the complete of stinginess's root.

2019 Nov 08 17:51:33
Varado: Having eliminated the stain of stinginess together with its origin, they are beyond criticism.

2019 Nov 08 17:35:15
Johann: ...and "Vineyya maccheramalaṁ samūlaṁ aninditā"

2019 Nov 08 17:29:21
Johann: These Devas and Brahmas...  :) mudita

2019 Nov 08 16:53:41
Varado: May the Buddha bless you. May the Dhamma shine on you. May Wat Ayum be a refuge to many. For any possible help with questions, please email. My pleasure.

2019 Nov 08 13:55:57
Johann: ..."This shows that the Buddha would not be troubled by those who become angry and resentful, but by those who are strongly opinionated and who relinquish their views reluctantly...."

2019 Nov 08 09:27:01
Johann: Ven. Bhantes

2019 Nov 08 09:23:11
Khemakumara:   _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Ariyadhammika

2019 Nov 08 06:26:12
Johann: It was four days after closing that decreased in last instance

2019 Nov 08 06:15:13
Moritz: The bot traffic is not decreasing.

2019 Nov 08 06:15:10
Johann: Ayasma Moritz

2019 Nov 08 06:14:53
Moritz: (was logged in long time before, but not at PC)

2019 Nov 08 06:14:52
Johann: Ayasama Moritz

2019 Nov 08 06:14:06
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 08 02:08:55
Moritz: Sadhu _/\_ May Bhante bear and overcome all sickness well _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 08 02:05:42
Khemakumara: Khantı paramaṁ tapo tītikkhā. Patient forbearance is the highest austerity

2019 Nov 08 02:01:46
Khemakumara: lack of energy because of sickness of the body (boils) Nyom Moritz

2019 Nov 08 01:53:48
Khemakumara: Meister Moritz

2019 Nov 08 01:52:12
Moritz: Hoping Bhante is well _/\_

2019 Nov 08 01:51:55
Moritz: Vandami Bhante (Khemakumara) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 20:02:22
Johann: enery, battery saysfinish for now... may there be food for liberation be found and got touched by many independently.

2019 Nov 07 20:00:16
Johann: Every being, even without capacity to gain higher, is worthy of metta, worthy to be not harmed in existance, worthy to help in times of needing the four paccayas, Ven. Grandfather.

2019 Nov 07 19:37:39
Visitor: Let us treat those with Buddhanature with the respect appropriate to future Buddhas.

2019 Nov 07 19:01:03
Johann: Maybe an inspirig topic on the matter How should I express Mudita or Joy for all beings? for all having access (upanissaya).

2019 Nov 07 18:56:59
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu. That's how mudita is good understood in relation with "Buddhanature"

2019 Nov 07 18:54:52
Visitor: Homage to all those with Buddhanature. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 18:53:59
Visitor:  Homage to all the Buddhas.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 18:28:47
Johann: Dear lok ta Visitor

2019 Nov 07 17:29:02
Cheav Villa:  _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 17:24:12
Johann: Don't worry either, yet perfect if visiting the Nuns. Mudita

2019 Nov 07 17:21:15
Cheav Villa: About the medicin called loṇasociraka, Kana will take time to go to Visit Wat Panha to ask her for detail  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 17:21:05
Johann: Cetana counts, the own one, Nyom.

2019 Nov 07 17:18:42
Johann: May Nyom not worry to much about it. My person guesses Nyom Chanroth might have lot of joy in the idea of planting. While Cacaco is fine, yet not a need or request, it's something that can be gained in shops.

2019 Nov 07 17:09:57
Cheav Villa: Kana now seen without Sila… someone could not tell the truth 

2019 Nov 07 17:01:13
Cheav Villa: Kana ordered 5kg via web, phoned them 2days ago but still no delivery cause of no confirmation since he still abroad now

2019 Nov 07 16:49:17
Cheav Villa: But the Cacao company in Mondolkiri doesnt allowed, they sale Cacao beans.

2019 Nov 07 16:47:38
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ as he informed to bring only Cacao fruits for Bhante could make and use of medecine againts Malaria

2019 Nov 07 16:20:48
Johann: Indeed releasing investigation cause hunger and no food can be expected at the end as well.

2019 Nov 07 16:18:35
Johann: When homeless effort is requested, no joy in sacrificing into it. Oh this monks... of modern world.  :)

2019 Nov 07 16:16:59
Johann: Oh this monks  :) When household effort can be made for favor and house, all engaged...

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Author Topic: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing  (Read 11251 times)

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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2018, 05:41:59 PM »
Vandami, Bhante _/\_

Is it "automatical" possibel to rename the xml files according a list Atma could provide xxx.xml -> =yy3.txt, xx2.xml -> = yy4.txt...

Yes.

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And another question: Would it be possible to fetch a text under a certain tag, say "chapter" and rename files according their item under this tag?

On principle, that would be possible, yes. It seems even possible to use Khmer alphabet or other different than Roman in the name and URL: ២០._ផុស្សពុទ្ធវំសោ .
(I hope there are no hidden "dangers" of certain errors occurring when using non-western UTF-8 alphabets somewhere inside the Wiki titles.)

But maybe it would be easier to find the corresponding versions for each alphabet/script and switch between them when they are all named the same for each language?
Like it is possible at the moment with the language switch:

I think that is only possible if the files are all named in the same way for each language/script.

Maybe good if the base name for each file would be left as it is, corresponding to some code, like the XML files "e1208n.nrf0.xml" etc., but one could still add additional names, corresponding to book or chapter in the .htaccess rewrite rules .
Not sure if it is possible to set so many rules and if it could drastically reduce performance when having ten thousands of rules. ^-^


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(problem the used titel is sometimes "chaper", and if not having seemingly "book" as well as multiuse, think just on mahavagga and other aspekts, but would be perfekt for wikiuse and search)

For each language, in the '/cscd' directory there are
2915 XML files
217 of them TOC/index files (ending in .toc.xml)

2651 occurrences of "chapter"
218 occurrences of "book"

So probably for each TOC there is one book.
(There is another "tipitaka.toc.xml" in the directory above "/cscd", probably corresponding to another "book" tag for the whole Tipitaka.)

Maybe this info is useful somehow. I could try to find out other numbers and structures later.

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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2018, 06:40:32 PM »
Sadhu

My person thinks that the/a sutta/vagga code as pagename is fine. Also raised a question in regard of multilingual here ()[ATI.eu] Multilingual - one "id" (namespace), diff. Names/Title languages/script . Name the "files in different languages/different does not make sense since there are directories/root-namespaces for each. The only

Chaper, book and actually title have no real consistence over all files. Might be that certain sections have and as knowing the files a little, subchaper, chaper ... are not so sure over all. Not to speak about the "chaotic", since many compilers, commentaries.

TOC-files just build the certain directory/folder, tree with its files on the last instance/level.

At the moment the new names look like this for a vagga for example:

mula: cs-rm:(path tipitaka:sut:an:)an01.v1{anchor #s001}
attha: cs-rm:(path tipitaka:sut:an:)an01.v1_att{anchor #s001}
tika: cs-rm:(path tipitaka:sut:an:)an01.v1_tik{anchor #s001}

Indexes have been modified, put together, such es Jataka 1,2,3 or reduced by one level, like for dn or mn.

if now adding title of file (most vagga), the search is quick and easie. As long english, since search engine and other features use primary pagenames.

My person came across a plugin for indexes for the sidebar which uses the first headline (h1) of each file. If all features adress in such or similar way, act on an alias from the file it self, all is fine, yet of course work.

Having the pagenames and structur as well as titel/alias well, all chategories/folders can fall aside of the lang-level and the root-levels, like tipitaka, atthakatha, library, author,ptf... (at the time it's also corresponding to each lang build, how ever, crosslinking is hard since requires to know sometimes a path of 3-4 levels). Having a flat structur makes all very easy.

Great to know that such fetching and renaming is possible. It might need another while till all is firm. Atma might ask some questions in progress of breeding handable, simple visions and might then try to transport it well for possible actions at large.
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2018, 12:10:17 AM »
Anya has been finished as well now.

The four great index should now have all files matched and each got a pagename.

It might be, that, since Tika and Anya is really not an ease, that there are double pagenames, so in this regard maybe a check if wishing to use it for a large addjusting.

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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2018, 04:44:54 PM »
Nyom Moritz,

Attached a list of the whole index cs-rm-namespace as my person thought it till here.

Tree structur is equal other lang-namespaces build.

It includes the names of the indexes, title, pagename, path, cscd-file name

Thought till here was to rename the xlm file into the listed pagenames, coverting them before according implementation_cscd in regard of wiki/html code (wrap) and anchors.

h1-Title might be good being the same like title

Than there have been strong considerations to make the structur total flat which would require to rename the "index" file in proper code pagenames, after of cause the same for all othe lang-namespaces, e.g. ati "index-files" would be good to get the same codes with "_ati" attached, single files as well "_{....}" (translator) attached.

No, on a dynamic page: does not makes sense and horror in maintaining indexes and name code systems. The ATI tree modified like now is fine. Maybe just looking for keeping the name index free for automatical folder indexes via a plugin. At least the sidemap is wonderful for quick finding and teaches/trains sati, flat is just by search engine good accessable.

So far the thought and state of progress. Atma thought to go on with the restyling of the tags and files from ati.

If thinking on different ways, it's just an idea of mine and there might be better, so don't feel limited by it.

(it might be that there are some double name conflicts in the indexlist for flat structur and renaming, and not checked if all files are matched. 1 or to are not listended, as the contained only the name of a group)
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2018, 01:19:36 AM »
Vandami, Bhante _/\_

Sadhu! So just to make sure about plans to proceed:

As I understand, "readable" Latin script names/codes were used for the pages and namespaces, including also names from commentaries like: "cs-rm:anya:visuddhimagga:11._samadhiniddeso" whenever there are areas in the commentaries which do not correspond 1-to-1 to certain Tipitaka books/vaggas/pages.

If this structure is now clearly defined, it seems it would be good to use the same structure and pagenames/namespaces for all other scripts (Khmer, Thai, ...) as well.

So: Roman codes/pagenames for all scripts, in order to be able to use the language switch between different scripts.

I assume this like Bhante had in mind as well?

It could take some time (a week or more) till I can get to it, but if the names and structure of tables of content are all clearly defined in this way, I think I could import the tables of content with the same structure for all remaining scripts without much trouble.

(And for later at some point maybe: As mentioned before , might be possible to convert namespaces to use other scripts with .htaccess rules or some other tricks. Maybe even possible to switch between very different looking names with the langauge switch, with help of some JavaScript.)

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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2018, 08:23:22 AM »
Nyom Moritz

All namespaces in latin scripts, yes, otherwise only troubles and the whole translation tools and lang-namespaces would be of no use at all.

The naming of folders and files now might be not perfect, such as double names, but such would be clear if starting to rename.

Other, ideologic renderings of single names can/could be made later by hand, step by step, online.

For your easy rendering, its possible good to put the files in the tree folder before, since it need to be made by hand and if not done with the root files it might be of more work, but probably the same for each lang. (on this place: anya filenames have no _any at the end and other files than the tipitaka-codes do not include the path in there name when it comes to tika and anya and simply new names. Maybe something that my person should change since it is difficuld to put them into the right folders without such a sort/search possibility in an explorer)
But if that things would not trouble to much, let it be like that for now. As Morits feels inspired to organice.
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2018, 09:52:09 AM »
Sadhu. Thanks for the hints and explanations.

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(on this place: anya filenames have no _any at the end and other files than the tipitaka-codes do not include the path in there name when it comes to tika and anya and simply new names. Maybe something that my person should change since it is difficuld to put them into the right folders without such a sort/search possibility in an explorer)

It seems some deeper nesting of indexes would be good. Some things are confusing.

For example, the index/TOC:
cs-rm:anya:niti-gantha-sangaho:index
contains this, which is also an index/TOC:
cs-rm:anya:niti-gantha-sangaho:caturarakkhadipani
within the same directory/namespace (cs-rm:anya:niti-gantha-sangaho ).
And from there there are links to actual texts, like cs-rm:anya:niti-gantha-sangaho:kayapaccavekkhana , also in the same diretory.
I think it would be good if for each TOC there would be another level/directory.

If including the path in the final page name as well then of course the final name could be very long with deep directories, like

cs-rm:anya:niti-gantha-sangaho:caturarakkhadipani:anya:niti-gantha-sangaho.caturarakkhadipani.kayapaccavekkhana_any , or even only the filename without namespace niti-gantha-sangaho:caturarakkhadipani:anya:niti-gantha-sangaho.caturarakkhadipani.kayapaccavekkhana_any could look very strange on the sitemap as well.

Or maybe just leave out such indermediary TOCs/indexes like cs-rm:anya:niti-gantha-sangaho:caturarakkhadipani which is already completely included in another bigger index file in the same directory.

So that there would be no "caturarakkhadipani" appearing in the final path, "caturarakkhadipani" being simply part of the one big "index".

Not sure if I understand this correctly:
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Maybe something that my person should change since it is difficuld to put them into the right folders without such a sort/search possibility in an explorer
Why is it helpful to have the complete pathname also in the filename (separated with '.')? From my perspective it just produces very unnecessarily long filenames. But this is a problem with the tablet explorer software? (Don't really know what Bhante is using now.)

I could rename all files to not path-including filenames and simply put them in their "right" deeper directories if this seems helpful, (making a deep hieararchy everywhere, but with short filename in the end), but no time before next week.


(Not necessary to answer all in detail now. May Bhante find enough rest in between. I have no time to come back to this before next week.)

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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2018, 01:43:38 PM »
Useally my person does things 2, 3, 4 times from the begining again. Vision in mind, then still lacking this or that, yet not perfect.

The second question is particulary reflected in the first. And if having later 2100 file and wishing to put them on their places, morits would see why.

And thats also for the brain. Some might know mn001 , that it is in the Suttapitaka, in the first vagga. But if having a file called bhu001 one would have problems.

Now one could give them a real name only. karanayametta sutta So, knowing the name, would you know which pitaka, nikaya, vagga and subvagga it belongs?

Therefor both useful systems, that of "modern" codes from ATI (western focus is on suttas and ends there) and the tree from the edlers by names.

that is why there came {pitaka}.{nikaya}.{vagga}.({subvagga}).{sutta no.} as for the filename into being.

If searching for an01.001, by the surfix _{att/tik/any} on matches them well in the preview putting the letters into the search box. On the other side, if searching via sidemap it's fine as well.

This works all fine till atthakatha Abhidhamma and parts of tika. When coming to anya it's no more that clear executeable and Anya it self contains already double and tripple naming. A certain collection has the first book and the first chaper with same name containing things not clear a counterpart of the tipitaka.

Till today, and actually having spend 100's of hour on trying to sort in fine, may person came till abouf jataka to be sure that the system would not run ugly of build on a not suitable structur.

Now this here, my person guesses, since not even abhidhamma (horrible structur) has been sorted well in the west, is the first time after tipitaka.org (which used a simple but not asumesable code and indexssystem for a stabil not dynamic storing, yet hard to find anything if not a little familar) that the whole heritage of the Sanghayana get's sorted.

It's all looked simple for my person as well. Then after you developed structure for the fist and second level, after the 10 file you match a new vagga/subvagga structur... Since from jakata on there is since longer no much broad interest, Anya is like the book shelf in a studend room and not like a chemist register.

Practical Anya:

Caturārakkhadīpanī is a book under the collection Nīti-gantha-saṅgaho in Anya-Commentaty and contains serial book. Within the is the Caper Kāyapaccavekkhaṇā which is the actual file (pagename)

To come to it one follows the indexes (pagenames under the namespace tree calked index) one after another or more direct, since the fist index contains already the whole structur. Thats right, sub indexes are not really necessary if the fist already contains the whole.

So it has more practical reasons. For example think on an, mn, iti. If knowing the system of the Sanghayana one knows that iti is a subvagga of kn. Same counts danger counts for mn. there is no mn123 in the sanghayana edition. It came from many people focusing on a certain levels "gemeinsames vielfaches).

Now, for example, if on works out Visudhimagga the first book, he might expand the capters index and if finished, might copy it into the index of visudhimagga, even to the anya index. Another might work from another level...

It means it has been the result of practical work in the worst situation of knowing the whole of particalar parts. Since it will stay dynamic, the further levels indexes have been not deleted (like cscd) but serve 2 purposes easy to acces in both directions, on which level ever one might enter, and to focus on a scale suitable to ones concentration and reminding and then put it together upwardly, downwardy.

Thats why this system from of pitaka, nikaya, vagga has been keep here as well and the structure is either by name flat (aside anya for all files) but also physical in levels, not only presented by a digital tree like the xml in cscd. If looking on the flat system of cscd one will fine att file codes in the tipitaka and so on. Meaning that even this simple system runned out ugly after finding out detail from the elders.

Further, the middle placed indexes are thought to get enriched by single chapers within one file (anchor content #v1...v5) and the deepes would contain later also the single suttas links (anchor #s001...s057) of the files. Meaning getting a zoom level by level. For one index that becomes to large.

But as told, open to others as well. Just knowing that it can serve for "headage" for weeks and month, yet next day finding out... "ok, again from the beginning". It's like doing/training Jhana, mastering the worlds.  :) That is why doing = sacrify has it's benefit = having learned a skill.

So know that Nyom has to structer something that probably nobody knows as a whole in it's various details and structur. It needs to be open in that far and "nachvollziehbar" for others, as well as accessable for people coming from differen learnsystems. West does not know the way of the elders and elders do not know the code-thinking of western.

For example look at ATI where it ends and beginns to go astray of suttacentral, having trouble with vinaya and abhidhamma and possible no logical way to ever add the commentaries, yet references to brahmic text from nepal.

But as told, while knowing that even some parts of the suttapitaka in the tipitaka have to be chanced, it can not be expected to be perfect or to work out to be perfect before putting it into the shelf.

If particular names have to chanced late on, if the is no double naming on the pagename level, such can be made by steps online if the whole structur has certain consistence as a whole.5z

Things open to do at this point if wishing to do it in a larfe scale:

- proof and eventually correcting indexes and names of files
- renaming of files
- converting into wiki/wrap standard
- implementing anchors to the single suttas, chapters
- incl. Data table to each file (titel, url, date, origin...)
- upload into the folders (or incl folders) in the single lang-namespaces

So it's really open how one like to do it, but its not really a quick job to develop such, at least for my persons limits.
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2018, 09:28:32 PM »
a Haa... that solves much (one each page has its heading for friendly displa Configuration Setting: useheading and IndexMenu Plugin for not needing to edit the indexes (possible, just would not give corresponding accesslink to the public tipitaka.org pages). Atma installs it for testing, assuming its welcome and given.

A sample of this index is now put on http://accesstoinsight.eu/doku.php?id=cs-rm:index#index

The use heading opinion nicely displays the title names now, will filenames (in code) are matched as fine selection as when typed into the search box.

Still a combination of both to display would be fine.
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2018, 10:10:02 PM »
  • Atma hat in cs-rm index "ṃ" auf "ṁ" geändert.
  • Dateinamen sollten gleiches erfahren, und auch die Texte in den Files.
  • Ebenfalls: alle "pali"-Nachspannen in den Ordnern.
  • Auch wird er die Option der Settings des Umwandelns von Buchstaben "teilweise romanisiert" auf "nicht romanisieren« einstellen, was da natürlich heißt, 1500 Wörterbuch-filenamen vielleicht ebenfalls nochmals zu tun...  .  ohh Achtung

    Komplex, wenn man's komplex machen möchte... das ist noch Arbeit und Gelegenheit (gut PTS-dic. dazwischen, auch so eine Sañña-Abgleichsherausforderung, mit massig anderen Sprachen und Zeichen...). Wenn man denkt wie die Herrschaften noch vor 100 Jahren das gemeistert haben. Was für eine (De-)Generation nun schon erreicht. "Alles ist ein", mit 10.000+ google-programierern, die all die Arbeit für die anderen tun: free!  :)

    Die Doku von all den Dingen wird auch noch gute Arbeit.
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2018, 10:58:21 PM »
Configuration Setting: fnencode + Configuration Setting: deaccent + 5 Pali-aufwartungen + ati-alt + Wörterbuchautoren + 100 IT-Überraschungen + Wetter/Körper + 2 Jahre alt: Battery u. kl. Tablet... + keinerlei Bildung in sprachen incl. IT + Riesen "Vogel" ... + :-\ = total Verrückt

so und nun weiter, da wo gerade, und nach 30x nochmal machen wird's passen, so neben sañña, nicht auch noch saṅkhāra nicht sicher ist, neben den anderen Aggregaten involviert.

... oder mal wieder eine Nacht darüberschlafen... und auf Hilfsmaschinen und Wissenschaft(ler) hoffen. Aber etwas schlafen ist gut. Nur nicht zu lange (sati verfällt dann vollkommen und man hat alles vergessen und wundert sich nur warum)  :)

theoretisch hat ati.eu schon etwa 500.000 - 1Mio Seiten in den nächsten Monaten... und spider-, suchmaschinen off, damit etwas Wald und Wildnis überbleibt.



kamma-vipaka? das paßt gut im Anschluß:

"einfach nur Gänsehaut"



kataññū + saṁvega + pāsāda = Ver-rückt
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2019, 06:31:42 PM »
Atma could now find a way, having now the possibility to use a laptop, to rename the files. By Commander with the "ren {file} {file new} & ren ...

Here the list of the renaming: renaming_files.

Only the main directory index, is up to date. The sub-directories have to be rebuild.

Atma thought it is good to make a flat structure for the source-files, only divided in Mula, Atthak., Tika and Anya and the other structure similar like for Khmer Tipitaka started, with the "include" tags.

If a trick of how to bring the file-name into the text of each page is known, that would make the modification into the ati-standard easier and faster, with 2698 files per script (4 at this time).
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2019, 03:25:08 PM »
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Atma thought it is good to make a flat structure for the source-files, only divided in Mula, Atthak., Tika and Anya and the other structure similar like for Khmer Tipitaka started, with the "include" tags.

If a trick of how to bring the file-name into the text of each page is known, that would make the modification into the ati-standard easier and faster, with 2698 files per script (4 at this time).

Not sure exactly what is required. Bring which file name into which text?

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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2019, 04:11:16 PM »
The name of each file in it's content as part of the text, Nyom. File XY may get it filename as text content at the fist line.

With notepat++"s replacements this can then be used to render certain links and anchors now not existing in the files.
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Re: [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2019, 05:20:09 PM »
Bisher getane Replacements, Schritt fuer Schritt (1 Kommando dauert etwa eine Stunde), spaeter dann in eine ati-Seite fuer folgende Schriften und gleichen Standard:

Code: [Select]
<p rend=[^\w]centre[^\w]>(.*?)<\/p>	<div centeralign>$1</div>

<p rend=[^\w]bodytext[^\w] n=[^\w]([^<>]*?)[^\w]><hi rend=[^\w]paranum[^\w]>([^<>]*?)<\/hi><hi rend=[^\w]dot[^\w]>\.<\/hi>([^\n]*?)<\/p>[\s]* <span para #para_$1>[$2]</span>$3\n\n

<pb ed=[^\w]([^<>]*?)[^\w] n=[^\w]([^<>]*?)[^\w] \/> <span anchor #$1_$2></span>
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