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Author Topic: Keeping up connection to the Gems, admirab Friends, via new Media  (Read 287 times)

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Since possible far away of usuals and the truth that good fruits need sacrifies in advanced, do not come by it self.

If someone, nearly cut of the Gems, and having no real admirable friend in reach, or if wishing to dedicate sacrifies for the wellbeing of ones ancestor, the gone, ones previous relatives, where ever they are, and keep their possible ways to meet the Sangha alive and near in there sphere, one may listen to some necessary requirements to make such possible toward real and serious leaders to peace and to match the great field of merits for ones best harvest of ones sacrifies by ones labor and possession.

First of all, in regard if such is possible via new media: Yes and No. Yes, if the given sacrified and developed conditions are based on proper means and do not require compromise in regard of virte and Vinaya. No, if the proper means are not given and developed, maintained. What ever comes into being by such, althought possible, is just an unclean connection, possible with unclean and corrupted objects.

What technical, material means are necessary?

Your traced and target object of faith and devotion, or your object of sharing merits for your relative, requires to be given a technical device, phone, mobile device or local stationary device which also requires power and maintaining.
All things and requirements your object might not have and is in most cases not able to ask for or to maintain (note, the fact that many Venerables act in improper ways and take what is not given to get and maintain, such is not an act of compassion but the fundation of unclean connection, nissaya.)
What ever one might feel inspired to offer in regard of device, power and maintaining, all this should be, for great fruits and that it last long, be baesed on virtues in regard of getting it, if not having to give yet, and in regard of power and maintaining. What ever is harmful for many and others will not last. The more circumstances in all regard, the more protection and acceptance by all others.

Note that if deviced are possible bound to a contract to it's user, it's necessary to be in charge of such, for a real good friend can not get into such apart of his virtue.

The target object needs also connection and acces to the net without being bound to privat contract to third and to make use of third parts resources (without that someone give compensation if not given by the third part. Such is possible a modem, SIM, ... and paccaya, requisites for traffic, to receive and to give.

A domain, a place of meetin each other, the inbetween, where tradition can be followed and practiced, Vatta (Wat, Monastery) or equal place is necessary and needs to be developed, maintained and easy accesable without the requirement to fall from virtue or take what is not given.

Ordinary domains, given for gain, trade and to bind to the world, connected with contracts not possible to fullfill with integrity, althought, again, many monks make use of not given, cheat the provider, is necessary to develop and maintain. Usual.marked and social networks given in exchange to binding to the world and to take on unskillful to get into depts to be bond, are not proper, althought often used by and for unclean and fruitless trade in the name of the Gems.

Since a world not so used or not up to date, and because it is in a finer material sphere, it needs to be maintained and quick like it is build up, it may not last even if just relatively short time not maintained. So there is a need to stand by, be very attentive of needs and lacks on the other side, especially.

If not finding those who possible joyful join your high merits, if you lack of Nissaya in this regrad, you need to trade, with proper means and rightous, you way throug the net of your obligations and bonds to maintain your connection. It will not be in the other direction, that those having left home and bounds will trade them through to you and giving up virtue or let the Noble ones shine be muddled by such ways, also many may do so and even transgress rules, virtue, in many case in a way that is actually already a downfall transgression, making them no more part of the Sangha.

If such can be done, if such is given and maintained, if this auspicious strong condition cause, upanissayapaccayena is given, smal or large, it's by the nature of your sacrifies, giving into upanissaya, that it is maintained and will not, possible no more interrupted or cut of.

If already that far from the Gems and not giving upanissayapaccayena, althought possible, but lean toward to falling apart, also such will have its natural effect by causes.

Like is not carring and watering a plant because tend to others the skillful and being object of the five hindrences, sensual pleasure, ill-will, doubt, restlessness and being lazy, this plant and heritage you might have obtained out of goodness of others or got by means of much sacrifies of your own, having come into being of a lot of pain and sacrifies of yours and many others, will die, or like you old mother and father will die for/from you, if not taking care, or your connection to friends dies off if not giving sacrifices and interest, or a seldom wild animal walks on if not having the condition to live, deprived of it's needed condition, even leaves this world for ever very fast, never to be met again in a certain word life time, in the same way your connection to the gems is cut off, dies, it not developed, maintained and used till having found real independence by having canges ancestor-ship by your own, your self having become one has gone forth, done the home sacrifice task and now being yourself one might who lead out in no more putting obtained back into the world but who leaves by it traces to follow behind.

It's not to put into actiong on affection or pride or to make anyine a favor, if saying: Lucky, real lucky you are to get in touch with all of this. And it's not to bend one into a direction one has not already gained faith and possible vision if saying: Don't be a fool and was the mass of merits you have, you put so many sacrifies into, for thing short lasting, short joy, already and befor pain, but build on it, maintained and carry a strong wish to be one time able to leave home and obligations toward the worldbehind, for your own wellfare and the happiness of many.

Don't think if not able and not eager to do such in this fine material realm with less bodily pain and bodily effects on others, that you might be able in the virtual worlds outside of this Realm to provide the conditions that a real Brahmrealm for liberation, a "Buddhafield", a Maha Vihara, a Brah(m) Vihara, that you are able to do so in a world of actions where countless beings are eager and greedy of raw form, and killing, taking what is not given, abuse, speaking not true and indoxitations are even more next and not so easy to cut down much contact to it, Mara waiting behind every door, standing cheating at every sense door.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

center]Upanissaya-Paccaya

Strong Dependency Condition

Starke Grundlageursache
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(Upanissaya-paccayokti:) Purimā purimā kusalā dhammā, pacchimānaṃ pacchimānaṃkusalā dhammānaṃ, upanissaya paccayena paccayo.

Preceding faultness states are related to subsequent faultness states by strong-dependence condition.

Zuvor vorangehende geschickte Erscheinungen, verursachen geschickte Erscheinungen, durch starke Grundlageursache, nachfolgend.

Purimā purimā kusalā dhammā, pacchimānaṃ pacchimānaṃ dhammānaṃ kesañci, upanissaya paccayena paccayo.

Preciding faultless stated are related to some subsequent faulty states by strong-dependence condition.[/lpi]

Zuvor vorangehende geschickte Erscheinungen, verursachen gelegentlich ungeschickte Erscheinungen, durch starke Grundlageursache, nachfolgend.

Purimā purimā kusalā dhammā, pacchimānaṃ pacchimānaṃ abyākatānaṃ dhammānaṃ, upanissaya paccayena paccayo.

Preceding faultless states are related to subsequent indeterminate states by strong-dependence condition.

Zuvor vorangehende geschickte Erscheinungen, verursachen unbestimmte Erscheinungen, durch starke Grundlageursache, nachfolgend.

Purimā purimā akusalā dhammā, pacchimānaṃ pacchimānaṃ akusalānaṃ dhammānaṃ, upanissaya paccayena paccayo.

Preceding faulty states are related to subsequent faulty states by strong-dependence condition.

Zuvor vorangehende geschickte Erscheinungen, verursachen geschickte Erscheinungen, durch starke Grundlageursache, nachfolgend.

Purimā purimā akusalā dhammā, pacchimānaṃ pacchimānaṃ kusalānaṃ dhammānaṃ kesañci, upanissaya paccayena paccayo.

Preceding faulty states are related to some subsequent faultless states by strong-dependence condition.

Zuvor vorangehende ungeschickte Erscheinungen, verursachen gelegentlich geschickte Erscheinungen, durch starke Grundlageursache, nachfolgend.

Purimā purimā akusalā dhammā, pacchimānaṃ pacchimānaṃ abyākatānaṃ dhammānaṃ, upanissaya paccayena paccayo.

Presceding faulty states are related to subsequent indeterminate states by strong-dependence condition.

Zuvor vorangehende geschickte Erscheinungen, verursachen unbestimmte Erscheinungen, durch starke Grundlageursache, nachfolgend.

Purimā purimā abyākatā dhammā, pacchimānaṃ pacchimānaṃ abyākatānaṃ dhammānaṃ, upanissaya paccayena paccayo.

Preciding indeterminate states are related to subsequent indeterminate states by strong-dependence condition.

Zuvor vorangehende unbestimmte Erscheinungen, verursachen unbestimmte Erscheinungen, durch starke Grundlageursache,nachfolgend.

Purimā purimā abyākatā dhammā, pacchimānaṃ pacchimānaṃ kusalānaṃ dhammānaṃ, upanissaya paccayena paccayo.

Preceding indeterminate states are related subsequent faultless states by strong-dependence condition.

Zuvor vorangehende unbestimmte Erscheinungen, verursachen geschickte Erscheinungen, durch starke Grundlageursache, nachfolgend.

Purimā purimā abyākatā dhammā, pacchimānaṃ pacchimānaṃ akusalānaṃ dhammānaṃ, upanissaya paccayena paccayo.


Preceding indeterminate states are related subsequent faulty states by strong-dependence condition.

Zuvor vorangehende unbestimmte Erscheinungen, verursachen ungeschickte Erscheinungen, durch starke Grundlageursache, nachfolgend.

Utu bhojanam'pi upanissaya paccayena paccayo.

Also, weather and food are related by strong-dependence condition.

Ebenfalls sind Wetter und Nahrung verursacht/in Verbindung durch starke Grundlageursache.

Puggalok'pi, upanissaya paccayena paccayo.

A person is related by strong-dependence condition.

Eine Person ist verursacht/in Verbindung durch starke Grundlageursache.

Senāsanam'pi, upanissaya paccayena paccayo.

A lodging-place is relared by strong-dependence condition

Eine Platz des Verweilens ist verursacht durch starke Grundlageursache.


The law of cause and effect can by used to work ones way upwards, like it is most the case, to maintain a stand, with is very seldom, and to tend upwards, even beyound cause and effect, of which's meeting such, doing such, is being blessed more than a very seldom ataining of becoming a world monarch of a king of high Devas realms.

Mudita & Metta

Anumodana punna kusala!
This post and Content has come to be by Dhamma-Dana and so is given as it       Dhamma-Dana: Johann

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Johann

October 17, 2018, 06:01:23 PM
May all spend meritorious/good and higher last hours of this Sila-day.

Sokh chomreoun (may well being be developed [by everyone])
 

Johann

October 16, 2018, 03:15:10 PM
Nyom Roman.
 

Johann

October 12, 2018, 04:13:16 PM
Good to see Nyom Norum.
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 10:38:10 AM
Maybe of support for lasting satifaction: Seeds of Becoming .
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 06:57:38 AM
When ever love arises, dislike will be it's end. Who ever seeks out for friends, will get his enemy. Why? Because not willing to leave home. May wanderer gus find the way to never return. Mudita

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:58 AM
Vandami.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:22 AM
Nevertheless my courage of active participation  has been fallen down. Anyway I hope to come time to time.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam khamata me bhante.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:37:11 AM
Okasa bhante,

I didn't accepted Dymitros invitation to start a Theravada forum, because I thought this forum is pure Theravada. Now I regret about it, yet think this forum is comparatively good.  I learnt many valuable things from you and grateful to you. Nevertheless my courage of active partici
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 02:20:29 AM
What ever one searches for, that he/she will find. Less are those seeing the nature of combined thing, leaving home and go beyond Maras domain.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:45:18 PM
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:39:12 PM
When one is born in outer regions ... your island has drifted away.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:30:00 PM
macchariya, a boarder hard to cross to the middle way, abounding home, sakayaditthi, doubt and rituals.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:33:02 PM
However much one say, West is West, East is East.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 02:28:29 PM
Where ever there is east, there is west. And vici versa. Where ever there is nama, there is rupa. Where ever one seeks for a home, there he will suffer.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:03:31 PM
West is West

gus

October 06, 2018, 09:56:42 AM
belief of kamma, gratitude, independence, honesty, devotion : These are hard to find in people
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:49:14 AM
Again, a latin proverb mit be useful: Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi , patisota is always harmful if not just one own defilements or having a proper stand to help. Sota is the virtue required to resist in borderlands.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:41:52 AM
If in a borderland it's better to simply serve and support the Sangha. It's not smart to seek for other householders to nurish on traced imperfections of something required to uphold, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 04:54:48 AM
Okasa, happy to hear such things reagarding kamma. Many monks I have met don't directly speak about kamma because they have been tired after practicing some years and now bit relaxed.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:17:26 AM
Such can be total kusala and total akusala or simply defuse. Set your mind right and be mindful, that nothing will be of harm for yourself and others.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:15:27 AM
There is nothing not permitted. Merits or demerits are the actors responsibility. One is full in charge of ones action in this Domain here, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 03:50:00 AM
Bhante, is it permitted to ask questions or post things on behalf of other/future people ?

gus

October 05, 2018, 09:19:32 AM
We have been advised like this:
"No matter however much monks reject you,
Never leave the place."
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 09:09:37 AM
It's good when wanderer gus takes a rest, turns to a lonly place, enjoys the merits done and find a good place for his mind and fixes possible open wholes when clear where he likes to go some hours later.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 08:59:03 AM
Wanderer Gus knows how foolish this statement is. That is not the way to get out of a hole.

gus

October 05, 2018, 08:42:59 AM
okasa,
falling down from a status is suffering.
So, if I could stay in the hell-being status from the beginning, then no suffering.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:33:20 AM
From a state of a young Bhikkhu equal tradition...to householder... ...asura (now) on the border to animal, peta, hell-state. It can go quick if not having firm nissaya.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:29:27 AM
Aniccam vatta samsara...

gus

October 05, 2018, 06:56:28 AM
Evolution:
Bhante subhuti =>
Upasaka gus =>
Deva gus =>
Asura gus.

In the future:
Asura gus =>
Peta gus =>
Animal gus =>
Hell-being gus ???

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:51:42 AM
Okasa, I think bhante thinks me as a patriot because of some content of my posts. But it is not.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 05:41:33 AM
What ever one likes to, not touched like the moon, does not mean to praise what is blameworthy and vici-versa and to have metta not to let people run into hell if ways can be pointed out. Yet other choices at least are their. Be quick, your island drifts away!

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:34:15 AM
Okasa,
As long as I don't do exactly what you say, I think I'll not be able to make you happy or satisfied.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 02:12:55 PM
If thinking that this is for sure, if delighting in believing that connected things are a refuge and give space to rest: one may do so. Ones own choice. When ever one stops to nurish inwardly, ouwardly path and fruits die. Good as well as bad.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:28:51 AM
If bhante didn't let the weak person to live in avatar/deva mode, then he will lose both openness and connection. Up to now I have secured at least the connection.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:22:24 AM
Yet I appreciate and pay vandana for your care and advice on openness.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:19:56 AM
Please forgive me  bhante if I have made you tired. I don't like to accumulate akusala by making a monk tired in expecting a naughty chicken to be a good duck.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam Khamtu me bhante!
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:07:06 AM
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
Differnt asked "why is Bhante not happy, dwell not in outwardly seeming being not touched?" Because it would not only confirm and show sign of aggreement of unwise acts, but also very incompassionate and cruel. Also place for suspecting corrupt ways and invite others to follow the comfortable dwelli
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:54:12 AM
No one is able to make my person angry, which does not mean that he would not appear angry so to possible prevent from doing what is not conductive for liberation, even lead in lower states. Nothing to worry, but also no invitation to test it foolish since it could hurt one self and others.

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:46:39 AM
Okasa bhante, Isn't there at least single way to stay anonymous without making you angry?
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:33:12 AM
corr: "it's, the domain of the Noble Ones, is nobody's personal domain" there are no wards around fields for merits and no tickets to pay
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:29:31 AM
What ever Deva gus feels inspired. It's oneones personal domain and all giving is good in the distance of the brigh cool moon. One should not fear, should not be shy to do what is good and praised by the wise but be quick!

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:21:39 AM
Bhante, is that mean you don't like me to talk about higher subjects and like to talk about basics only?
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:02:12 AM
It would be more than good if teaching others a lot on the topic vandami (paying respect) and khamatu (asking for forgiviness) since unknown and not practiced here around this field of merits in compassion to former relatives, Deva gus.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
...total no problem to dwell and lay down in the cool shadow to heal at all and no need to ask for pardon when intended for progressing and to get fit for the battles so hard to win.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:52:39 AM
But they would not feed them in ways which might look as nurishing relations for wordly sake directly, for people not understanding would think "look, he is herding, carry for his cattle, he wasts the gift of the land, the heritage of the Gems for his becoming and own gain. Understood? Total no prob
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:45:29 AM
Never would people of integrity send away pets, petas or sick, for they are not able to change for now but possible can gain of what they need to change.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:42:28 AM
If, just to think about, one lives deliberatly with sign showing a rejection of firm trust in kamma, one lives in nurishing the danger of falling into grave wrong views and give ways that others follow what is improper to do. Just to reflect. How ever wishing to do.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:36:03 AM
What ever one does, holds as refuge or abounds, either good or bad refuge, one does for one self. Ones own choices, ones own fruits, ones own limitations, hindrences.

gus

October 04, 2018, 09:28:15 AM
Khamatu me bhante!
My previous  post was this.
"Please forgive me and give birth to kindness ao as to let me live here anonymous "

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