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Author Topic: Beispielhafte Tips for dasErhalten, für sich, und geben von Verbindung (Teilen)  (Read 1736 times)

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Da viele Dinge in diesem Bezug wahrscheinlich nicht nur Haltungs- und Umsichtsmäßig Alien für Sie sind, (sieh auch Keeping up connection to the Gems, admirab Friends, via new Media , hier ein paar Praktische Dinge, erzeugt um für andere mehr Nachvollziehbarkeit zu geben und für jeden Fall des Verbindungswunsches, gegenüber allem angestrebten, zu Ideen für Weg anregend, nicht für spezielle oder ausschließliche Verbindung gedacht:

Erfragen der Möglichkeiten eine Datenverkehrproviders für den jenen, mit dem man in Verbindung bleiben möchte, oder desen Verbindung man anderen geben möchte, teilhaben lassen will, hier ein Art der praktischen Nachfrage, die Atma zu Zwecke der Anregung für mögliche eigene Wege zu geben vermochte, mag:

Bemerken Sie, auch wenn vielleich noch außerhalb der neuen Medien, guter Tradition verbunden, ist es selten Leute, mit der so eindringlich üblicherenArt von ungeschickter Kommunitation, ohne Güte und Dankbarkeit, in diesem Medium, zu treffen, aber auch solches passiert, entsprechend eines eigenen Ursachen. So hier Gespräch mit einer business as usual and gestresster Person:

Quote from: online talk with an provider
Cellcard km
Customer support

Samana Johann: Sokh chomreoun Nyom deang ah knear. Pardon for possible disturbing and uninvited approach.

Chat started

Samana Johann: Sokh chomreoun Nyom deang ah knear. Pardon for possible disturbing and uninvited approach.

Cellcard joined the chat

Mr. Thanuth (phone company): Welcome to Cellcard Web-Chat. I'm Thanuth. How may I help you today?

Samana Johann: Sokh chomreoun Nyom Thanuth.

Sokh chomreoun Nyom Thanuth.

Sokh chomreoun Nyom Thanuth.

Sokh chomreoun Nyom Thanuth.

Sokh chomreoun Nyom Thanuth.


Mr. Thanuth (phone company): I'm sorry how may I help you?

Samana Johann: Atma likes to ask about toping up phone credit and inet credit, if that is fine for Nyom Thanuth.

Atma likes to ask about toping up phone credit and inet credit, if that is fine for Nyom Thanuth.

sorry for repeated messages, low seva


Mr. Thanuth (phone company): Thank you for your question. Let me first confirm with you, is this number 012345025 you're using correct ?

Samana Johann: Bo


Mr. Thanuth (phone company): Thank for your number.
Would you wish to know about how to top up your balance and how to subscribe to INET plans?

Excuse me, are you still there ?

Samana Johann: Yes Nyom, but in how far such is possible for others to do for one. Meaning what code needs to be used to send credit to another device, without the need that the receiver has anything to do with this action. For normal call-credit and for inet. If Nyom likes to share his merits in regard of this, such would be ggod.

sorry for slow typing

take your time, my person, Atma, can wait.


Mr. Thanuth (phone company): Thank you for your clarification.
For topping to another phone number, we don't have any code for this but you can top up for another phone number via WING account.

For the INET plans, you can peer by dialing this code #6767#Plan#phone No #

Samana Johann: Sadhu. And what is Wing-account? What is needed for such?


Mr. Thanuth (phone company): WING is kind of e-banking service.

Samana Johann: Good. So if one has such, it would be possible if the other persons device has no "bank-account", no?


Mr. Thanuth (phone company): Yes, that is right.

Samana Johann: So the receicer does not need to have such as a bank account, right?


Mr. Thanuth (phone company): Yes, that is right.

Samana Johann: Sadhu. Let my person ask further, if Nyom finds time and saddhea


Mr. Thanuth (phone company): Is there anything else I can assist you more now?

Samana Johann: Yes,if Nyom like to give his time.

Since Monks are neither allowed to receive money or means for exchange, nor to hold it, or tell others to use:


Mr. Thanuth (phone company): I'm sorry but could you please clarify your question again?

Samana Johann: If there is someone outside the range of cellcard, for example in a foreign land, would he be able to give paccay (credit) to another person, possible a monk? What ways would there be to make the a donation to keep nissaya (connection) alive, or give possibility for it?


Mr. Thanuth (phone company): I'm sorry but for the service above, we don't have here.

Samana Johann: Any good idea? What would Nyom do if he likes to keep connection alive?

The monk can not act or ask for.

If he is a serious one.


Mr. Thanuth (phone company): I'm sorry for this but I don't have any idea about that.

Samana Johann: No problem. Anyway, maybe Nyom likes to think about such situations and discuss it wit fellows and his chiefs for possible good deeds and ways to make merits, stay connected.

Send

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Atma does not like to disturb you further. Sadhu for your effort and patient, and may all you good undertakings bring quick pleasant fruits, my Nyom wishes always be fullfilled.

Für diesen Fall, wenn da in Kambodscha ein Gerät und Sim, vielleicht notiges billiges USB-modem für lokale Geräte gegeben hat, mag man (dieses wird von Anbieter zu Anbieter anders sein, in dem Fall paccaya (Grundlage, Erfordernis) auf diese Weise geben:

Internet ($5 pro monat 8Gb, Traficumfang nicht leicht jemals auzubrauchen, ohne Telefonie):

* Wenn man in einem Geschäft (an jeder Ecke, abhängig von Kundendichte in Umgebung am Land, Cellcard am Land und unter der Masse der Konsumenten, wenig verbreitet) eine Coderubbelkarte erstanden hat, erstehen hat lassen, kann man diesen Code dem Empfenger via was immer für Wege zukommen lassen. Dieser könnte, wenn (zuerst Datenverbindung abdrehen) dann fortsetzen (besser für Ihn veranlassen, da nahe am Nutzen von Geld und Taschmittel und oft mit Unannehmlichkeiten, oder Mangel des Wissens, verbunden: um Gerät bitten, wenn er hat und tun/tun lassen:

1. *123*{Rubbelkartencode}# wählen (anrufen): damit ist Guthaben am Gerät (5$ for ein Mont internet only.

2. #6767# wählen, und dann nach erhalten der Rückfrage 5 wählen. Oder gleich #6767#500# wählen. Nach erhalten von bestätigungssms kann Verbindung genutz werden. Sollte automatische Erneuerung gewählt werden, und ist Guthaben dafür am Gerät, wird übriger Trafficumfang ins neue Monat übernommen, geht nocht verloren.

Die bessere Art für Empfänger, und einfacher, wenn auf eigenem Gerät über Guthaben verfügend, oder Händler dazu bitten dies zu tun (die diese gewöhnlich gerne tun), zu senden:

Einfach auf eigenem oder anderen Geräte, über Guthaben verfügend, mit wählen von #6767#500#{Tel.nr. des Empfängers} wählen. In diesem Fall kann weder vom Empfänger etwas falsch gemacht werden, noch etwas verloren gehen.

In jedem Fall ist das Bescheidgeben und Ersuchen um Annahme, damit in Verbindung, entweder Gesicht zu Gesicht, oder durch Nachricht, Boten, gut.

Ach ist es gut eine Widmung, den Empfänger und Wunsch, wie man die Gabe genutz sehen mögte, für was und durch wenn, zu äußer. ... als würde man einen Wagen und einen Fahrer zu einem Empfänger schicken, ihn überlassen. "Möge der Ehrw. damit, aus Mitgefühl, ... jener Einladung folgen... dieses teilen... es nutzen um für andere verfügbar zu sein... er damit machen was er möchte und passend ist..." was immer, für wenn immer, wozu immer inspiriert.



So einfach und mit wenig Kosten und Mühen, könnte man, wenn man sich die Grundlagen dafür erarbeitet hat, dieses tun, eine Verbindung ermöglichen oder geben.

Mit wählen von #823 kann der Empfänger über Restguthaben anfragen und erhält dazu sms. Auch hier ist es gut zu Bitten dieses einzusehen, und nach Gebrauch des Gerätes zu fragen, oder dem Empfänger zu bitten bescheid zu geben.

Gehe man nicht davon aus, daß ein gutes Ziel der Verbindung, eige Möglichkeiten, selbst für kleine Schritte hat.

Wenn sie die Möglichkeit geben wollen, daß ein Empfänger bei Mangel bescheid gibt, (Achtung, er mag für sich selbst keine Mangel haben und selbst wenn könnend, nicht stören), ist es gut dieses klar anzubieten, darüber Sorge zu targen, und diese immer wieder erneuern, um Sorge um Stören oder Ansehen aus fehlen von Grund und Einladung für dieses oder jenes, hinten anzustellen.

(Telefonnummern für diese Art der Abwicklung 011, 012, 017, 061, 076, 78, 79, 85, 89, 92, 95, 099. Sollte der Empfänger die eigen Telefonnummer nicht kenne, die der erhaltenen SIM, was sehr oft der Fall ist, Sim oft aufgebend weil niemad erhalt, oder neue mit Guthaben erhalten: *1#  oder *2# oder *3# wählen.)

Diese Wissen, diese Infos, sind alle gut wenn an Empfänger weiter gegeben, wenn nicht selbst alles erledigend.

Ein Empfänger kann Guthaben an andere Mönche in selber Weise teilen, was inet betrifft.

Dieses ist alles nur eine Möglichkeit, aber in Art, für alle Umstände ähnlich und im Grunde gleich.

Mögen vor allem die Mitglieder der Ehrwürdigen Sangha, in ihrem Bereich, die Gefährten am Pfad, und alle die diesen folgen, folgen wollen, dienlich sein.

Durch Fragen, jene die Wissen, wenn man Möglichkeit hat, oder danach gesucht hat, Erlangt man Wissen. Keine Verbindung, Nissaya habend, oder nicht fragend, Güte nicht suchend und treffend, woher solle da Wissen kommen, wie sollte es Eindingen, wenn nicht dafür frei gemacht?

Anumodana!
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Aus einem Anlaßfall, zum Nutzen aller überall:

Vandami Bhante _/\_

Das nächste, was ich ausprobiert habe, war https://www.recharge.com. Macht allgemein einen professionelleren und vertrauenswürdigeren Eindruck. ..

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Johann

October 17, 2018, 06:01:23 PM
May all spend meritorious/good and higher last hours of this Sila-day.

Sokh chomreoun (may well being be developed [by everyone])
 

Johann

October 16, 2018, 03:15:10 PM
Nyom Roman.
 

Johann

October 12, 2018, 04:13:16 PM
Good to see Nyom Norum.
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 10:38:10 AM
Maybe of support for lasting satifaction: Seeds of Becoming .
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 06:57:38 AM
When ever love arises, dislike will be it's end. Who ever seeks out for friends, will get his enemy. Why? Because not willing to leave home. May wanderer gus find the way to never return. Mudita

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:58 AM
Vandami.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:22 AM
Nevertheless my courage of active participation  has been fallen down. Anyway I hope to come time to time.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam khamata me bhante.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:37:11 AM
Okasa bhante,

I didn't accepted Dymitros invitation to start a Theravada forum, because I thought this forum is pure Theravada. Now I regret about it, yet think this forum is comparatively good.  I learnt many valuable things from you and grateful to you. Nevertheless my courage of active partici
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 02:20:29 AM
What ever one searches for, that he/she will find. Less are those seeing the nature of combined thing, leaving home and go beyond Maras domain.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:45:18 PM
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:39:12 PM
When one is born in outer regions ... your island has drifted away.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:30:00 PM
macchariya, a boarder hard to cross to the middle way, abounding home, sakayaditthi, doubt and rituals.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:33:02 PM
However much one say, West is West, East is East.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 02:28:29 PM
Where ever there is east, there is west. And vici versa. Where ever there is nama, there is rupa. Where ever one seeks for a home, there he will suffer.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:03:31 PM
West is West

gus

October 06, 2018, 09:56:42 AM
belief of kamma, gratitude, independence, honesty, devotion : These are hard to find in people
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:49:14 AM
Again, a latin proverb mit be useful: Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi , patisota is always harmful if not just one own defilements or having a proper stand to help. Sota is the virtue required to resist in borderlands.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:41:52 AM
If in a borderland it's better to simply serve and support the Sangha. It's not smart to seek for other householders to nurish on traced imperfections of something required to uphold, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 04:54:48 AM
Okasa, happy to hear such things reagarding kamma. Many monks I have met don't directly speak about kamma because they have been tired after practicing some years and now bit relaxed.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:17:26 AM
Such can be total kusala and total akusala or simply defuse. Set your mind right and be mindful, that nothing will be of harm for yourself and others.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:15:27 AM
There is nothing not permitted. Merits or demerits are the actors responsibility. One is full in charge of ones action in this Domain here, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 03:50:00 AM
Bhante, is it permitted to ask questions or post things on behalf of other/future people ?

gus

October 05, 2018, 09:19:32 AM
We have been advised like this:
"No matter however much monks reject you,
Never leave the place."
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 09:09:37 AM
It's good when wanderer gus takes a rest, turns to a lonly place, enjoys the merits done and find a good place for his mind and fixes possible open wholes when clear where he likes to go some hours later.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 08:59:03 AM
Wanderer Gus knows how foolish this statement is. That is not the way to get out of a hole.

gus

October 05, 2018, 08:42:59 AM
okasa,
falling down from a status is suffering.
So, if I could stay in the hell-being status from the beginning, then no suffering.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:33:20 AM
From a state of a young Bhikkhu equal tradition...to householder... ...asura (now) on the border to animal, peta, hell-state. It can go quick if not having firm nissaya.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:29:27 AM
Aniccam vatta samsara...

gus

October 05, 2018, 06:56:28 AM
Evolution:
Bhante subhuti =>
Upasaka gus =>
Deva gus =>
Asura gus.

In the future:
Asura gus =>
Peta gus =>
Animal gus =>
Hell-being gus ???

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:51:42 AM
Okasa, I think bhante thinks me as a patriot because of some content of my posts. But it is not.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 05:41:33 AM
What ever one likes to, not touched like the moon, does not mean to praise what is blameworthy and vici-versa and to have metta not to let people run into hell if ways can be pointed out. Yet other choices at least are their. Be quick, your island drifts away!

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:34:15 AM
Okasa,
As long as I don't do exactly what you say, I think I'll not be able to make you happy or satisfied.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 02:12:55 PM
If thinking that this is for sure, if delighting in believing that connected things are a refuge and give space to rest: one may do so. Ones own choice. When ever one stops to nurish inwardly, ouwardly path and fruits die. Good as well as bad.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:28:51 AM
If bhante didn't let the weak person to live in avatar/deva mode, then he will lose both openness and connection. Up to now I have secured at least the connection.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:22:24 AM
Yet I appreciate and pay vandana for your care and advice on openness.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:19:56 AM
Please forgive me  bhante if I have made you tired. I don't like to accumulate akusala by making a monk tired in expecting a naughty chicken to be a good duck.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam Khamtu me bhante!
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:07:06 AM
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
Differnt asked "why is Bhante not happy, dwell not in outwardly seeming being not touched?" Because it would not only confirm and show sign of aggreement of unwise acts, but also very incompassionate and cruel. Also place for suspecting corrupt ways and invite others to follow the comfortable dwelli
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:54:12 AM
No one is able to make my person angry, which does not mean that he would not appear angry so to possible prevent from doing what is not conductive for liberation, even lead in lower states. Nothing to worry, but also no invitation to test it foolish since it could hurt one self and others.

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:46:39 AM
Okasa bhante, Isn't there at least single way to stay anonymous without making you angry?
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:33:12 AM
corr: "it's, the domain of the Noble Ones, is nobody's personal domain" there are no wards around fields for merits and no tickets to pay
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:29:31 AM
What ever Deva gus feels inspired. It's oneones personal domain and all giving is good in the distance of the brigh cool moon. One should not fear, should not be shy to do what is good and praised by the wise but be quick!

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:21:39 AM
Bhante, is that mean you don't like me to talk about higher subjects and like to talk about basics only?
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:02:12 AM
It would be more than good if teaching others a lot on the topic vandami (paying respect) and khamatu (asking for forgiviness) since unknown and not practiced here around this field of merits in compassion to former relatives, Deva gus.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
...total no problem to dwell and lay down in the cool shadow to heal at all and no need to ask for pardon when intended for progressing and to get fit for the battles so hard to win.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:52:39 AM
But they would not feed them in ways which might look as nurishing relations for wordly sake directly, for people not understanding would think "look, he is herding, carry for his cattle, he wasts the gift of the land, the heritage of the Gems for his becoming and own gain. Understood? Total no prob
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:45:29 AM
Never would people of integrity send away pets, petas or sick, for they are not able to change for now but possible can gain of what they need to change.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:42:28 AM
If, just to think about, one lives deliberatly with sign showing a rejection of firm trust in kamma, one lives in nurishing the danger of falling into grave wrong views and give ways that others follow what is improper to do. Just to reflect. How ever wishing to do.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:36:03 AM
What ever one does, holds as refuge or abounds, either good or bad refuge, one does for one self. Ones own choices, ones own fruits, ones own limitations, hindrences.

gus

October 04, 2018, 09:28:15 AM
Khamatu me bhante!
My previous  post was this.
"Please forgive me and give birth to kindness ao as to let me live here anonymous "

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