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Release
« on: August 22, 2018, 04:35:20 AM »
My person likes to share his attaining of a long time wish: to get one day in contact with Ven. Thanissaro, which was generously made possible by. Upasaka Moritz .

Having tried to leave a message for a possible call back, my person finally sacrificed his alms round and meal of today.

Just now finished the call, my person was lucky to meet Ven. Tan Peter, who generously organised to speak with Most Ven. Thanissaro, and finally got the leave "take care".

This release. of lasting Nissaya between (my person) and moder/western words tradition was surely hard and of cause foreseen, had given some "sadness" (of releasing kind) but also deep mudita for this tradition to be on the way to get at least united.

May what ever fault has been done by whom every be no cause of backward for the relation between those wich similar tendency, nourish and maintain each other till the time they gain freedom from any Nissaya for themselves.

May who ever in modern or western world take and have the chance to get right in touch with the most outstanding teacher and leader of this Nissaya.

May all beings take part on the merits done here by .many and may the Devas inform those who have not been touched yet.

May the Sangha of Savakas of the Buddha last long in this world and may those who had gained Nissaya in previous times be always reminded on the path even if it may has disappeared to present in spheres of the khandhas.

Anumodana!
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Re: Release
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2018, 04:50:29 AM »
Sadhu! Sadhu! Sadhu!

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Re: Release
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2018, 05:02:46 AM »
Actually the fist contact gave rise to a lot of doubt, since it gave much reason that my person maybe did something which is not really wished, assuming that the gift on dhammatalks.org are first over dedicated. for the Sublime Sangha and it follower.

So my person thought, better then to build on assumings whould be to make things clear. In the moring, touched by malaria attack a little, my person checked if the bodily conditions would allow to let go of food another day to make a call in the wished hour. Then my person thought, "it's better to walk for alms, and if things go in certain way's, I will be back quickly and match the time."
So my person prepared his robes and took his bowl, then went down. Just this moment 3 fire-wood collector came up the hill. (something never hapens usually, that peoplehave the luck to meet my person on alms in the forest, and not fail to get gift accepted if thinking it would be taken at the dwelling). Having offered some rice, a little side dish an a bottle of water, having received a talk on Dhamma, delighted they returned to their work and my person had only a few meters back for today and another chance to call.

Ven. Tan Peter received the call. Obiviously not used to kind greatings and "zuvorkommenheiten", stressed like the people in call-centers, and my person as well ("how can I speak that he is not burdened and get's the point easy") my person started another time.

First making confession that my person took the teachings in trust and further dedicated them, as well as translations to the Sangha, after he could not make clear to whom their are dedicated but seeked refuge in a housholders way of "copyrights" and that this teachings are in the domain by Ven. Thanissaro and nothing further.

Then my person, after Ven. Than Peter started to understand that there have been dedicatiins and sacrifices made, my person started to offer, Sanghadana of the eight directions (asking the Sangha of wat Metta to acceot it for the Sangha at large) the translation incl. sangham.net, zugangzureinsicht.org, accesstoinsight.eu incl. all the many gifts received and maintained here for the Sangha of the eight direction. Not so used in using telefon, my person tried to make it formal (althought noting that he would not have the patient). Having made the declaration the fist time, just wanted to repeat it, Ven. Peter breaked into by asking "So you have made translations... you like to give..." Turning back to try to explain what, why, how... Ven. Sir then made the suggestion to prepair all in and order and then give it. Asking again of how my person would be able to give, to hand it over, the loop started again. Generously he gave a short thought of how he could step out of usuals, letter is not possible, email is only used for personal things, telefon is reserved to receive laypeople and overbooked... So he listened shortly and came to understand that my persons only dwelling reachable in modern worlds is sangham.net and that he is given and invited to register and make use of all and would find a possibility to understand the huge dedication it's amout and use.

Ven. Sir was a little introduced about al things and how they arouse, mostly short before Dhamma goodness and it's embodies died and about the huge amout of gifts dedicated for the Sangha of the eight directions.

He also said that their German translations-team dissolved (my person offered, saying that his skills are actually not great in regard of formal language) but that Ven. Thanissaro has a female disciple.

Getting more stressed since a lot of incoming calls have been rejected, Ven. Peter said that he will take a look at sangham.net and that he now needs to finish because many try to call.

Thinking that it's not proper to try it another time in a very modern conventional way and that it s a fact that those ways need to be walked toeach those caught in modern worlds, it is possible needed and required, like my person had told many many times, that the monastery helpers here, the devoted giver and server, take on another time the effort to hand it over if they wish.

For it's not at all my person's intention to take something or use something on which people in the world maintain their livelihood, not really dedicated for the three Juwels and to be pulked beyound.

Please feel not limited to act and do as you wish, for it's not really possible, very rare that two kinds of ancestor-ships would ever get in touch even if people have been very near related in the past.

Don't ever let macchariya overcome your mind and again, this counts fo every family, listening to their departing leaders: What dhammic leaders suggest .

Please be also aware that if someoe has become a "King", it natural to be sourrounded not only by wise and devoted minister and servants but also often the opposite.

And again, things do not come by it's own or wet well naturally by it's own, but havegneed causes, need sacrifices and require proper effort to appear.

Don't forget, it's not just a "normal" gift you prepeared here, just think on how less monasteries or real Dhamma-Dana gifts actually exist in this world in accordiance of the Dhamma and Vinaya and how less has not been alread fallen into sg13, how less are willing to change their ways, how less have found firm faith and real refuge in the Gems.

And no, it's not right if someone says that the Buddha just suggests when asked "Where should a gift been given", to just leave it up to once defiled mood, but if there is a chance, the only real benifical field of merits, for release, should be pointed out and such by nature is and can never be of personal interessed having left the lower fetters already beyond.

Anumodana!

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Nyom Roman.
 

Johann

October 20, 2018, 02:52:14 AM
Atma leaves for alms round, Nyom Villa.
 

Johann

October 17, 2018, 06:01:23 PM
May all spend meritorious/good and higher last hours of this Sila-day.

Sokh chomreoun (may well being be developed [by everyone])
 

Johann

October 16, 2018, 03:15:10 PM
Nyom Roman.
 

Johann

October 12, 2018, 04:13:16 PM
Good to see Nyom Norum.
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 10:38:10 AM
Maybe of support for lasting satifaction: Seeds of Becoming .
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 06:57:38 AM
When ever love arises, dislike will be it's end. Who ever seeks out for friends, will get his enemy. Why? Because not willing to leave home. May wanderer gus find the way to never return. Mudita

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:58 AM
Vandami.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:22 AM
Nevertheless my courage of active participation  has been fallen down. Anyway I hope to come time to time.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam khamata me bhante.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:37:11 AM
Okasa bhante,

I didn't accepted Dymitros invitation to start a Theravada forum, because I thought this forum is pure Theravada. Now I regret about it, yet think this forum is comparatively good.  I learnt many valuable things from you and grateful to you. Nevertheless my courage of active partici
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 02:20:29 AM
What ever one searches for, that he/she will find. Less are those seeing the nature of combined thing, leaving home and go beyond Maras domain.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:45:18 PM
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:39:12 PM
When one is born in outer regions ... your island has drifted away.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:30:00 PM
macchariya, a boarder hard to cross to the middle way, abounding home, sakayaditthi, doubt and rituals.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:33:02 PM
However much one say, West is West, East is East.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 02:28:29 PM
Where ever there is east, there is west. And vici versa. Where ever there is nama, there is rupa. Where ever one seeks for a home, there he will suffer.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:03:31 PM
West is West

gus

October 06, 2018, 09:56:42 AM
belief of kamma, gratitude, independence, honesty, devotion : These are hard to find in people
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:49:14 AM
Again, a latin proverb mit be useful: Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi , patisota is always harmful if not just one own defilements or having a proper stand to help. Sota is the virtue required to resist in borderlands.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:41:52 AM
If in a borderland it's better to simply serve and support the Sangha. It's not smart to seek for other householders to nurish on traced imperfections of something required to uphold, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 04:54:48 AM
Okasa, happy to hear such things reagarding kamma. Many monks I have met don't directly speak about kamma because they have been tired after practicing some years and now bit relaxed.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:17:26 AM
Such can be total kusala and total akusala or simply defuse. Set your mind right and be mindful, that nothing will be of harm for yourself and others.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:15:27 AM
There is nothing not permitted. Merits or demerits are the actors responsibility. One is full in charge of ones action in this Domain here, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 03:50:00 AM
Bhante, is it permitted to ask questions or post things on behalf of other/future people ?

gus

October 05, 2018, 09:19:32 AM
We have been advised like this:
"No matter however much monks reject you,
Never leave the place."
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 09:09:37 AM
It's good when wanderer gus takes a rest, turns to a lonly place, enjoys the merits done and find a good place for his mind and fixes possible open wholes when clear where he likes to go some hours later.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 08:59:03 AM
Wanderer Gus knows how foolish this statement is. That is not the way to get out of a hole.

gus

October 05, 2018, 08:42:59 AM
okasa,
falling down from a status is suffering.
So, if I could stay in the hell-being status from the beginning, then no suffering.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:33:20 AM
From a state of a young Bhikkhu equal tradition...to householder... ...asura (now) on the border to animal, peta, hell-state. It can go quick if not having firm nissaya.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:29:27 AM
Aniccam vatta samsara...

gus

October 05, 2018, 06:56:28 AM
Evolution:
Bhante subhuti =>
Upasaka gus =>
Deva gus =>
Asura gus.

In the future:
Asura gus =>
Peta gus =>
Animal gus =>
Hell-being gus ???

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:51:42 AM
Okasa, I think bhante thinks me as a patriot because of some content of my posts. But it is not.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 05:41:33 AM
What ever one likes to, not touched like the moon, does not mean to praise what is blameworthy and vici-versa and to have metta not to let people run into hell if ways can be pointed out. Yet other choices at least are their. Be quick, your island drifts away!

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:34:15 AM
Okasa,
As long as I don't do exactly what you say, I think I'll not be able to make you happy or satisfied.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 02:12:55 PM
If thinking that this is for sure, if delighting in believing that connected things are a refuge and give space to rest: one may do so. Ones own choice. When ever one stops to nurish inwardly, ouwardly path and fruits die. Good as well as bad.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:28:51 AM
If bhante didn't let the weak person to live in avatar/deva mode, then he will lose both openness and connection. Up to now I have secured at least the connection.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:22:24 AM
Yet I appreciate and pay vandana for your care and advice on openness.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:19:56 AM
Please forgive me  bhante if I have made you tired. I don't like to accumulate akusala by making a monk tired in expecting a naughty chicken to be a good duck.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam Khamtu me bhante!
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:07:06 AM
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
Differnt asked "why is Bhante not happy, dwell not in outwardly seeming being not touched?" Because it would not only confirm and show sign of aggreement of unwise acts, but also very incompassionate and cruel. Also place for suspecting corrupt ways and invite others to follow the comfortable dwelli
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:54:12 AM
No one is able to make my person angry, which does not mean that he would not appear angry so to possible prevent from doing what is not conductive for liberation, even lead in lower states. Nothing to worry, but also no invitation to test it foolish since it could hurt one self and others.

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:46:39 AM
Okasa bhante, Isn't there at least single way to stay anonymous without making you angry?
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:33:12 AM
corr: "it's, the domain of the Noble Ones, is nobody's personal domain" there are no wards around fields for merits and no tickets to pay
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:29:31 AM
What ever Deva gus feels inspired. It's oneones personal domain and all giving is good in the distance of the brigh cool moon. One should not fear, should not be shy to do what is good and praised by the wise but be quick!

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:21:39 AM
Bhante, is that mean you don't like me to talk about higher subjects and like to talk about basics only?
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:02:12 AM
It would be more than good if teaching others a lot on the topic vandami (paying respect) and khamatu (asking for forgiviness) since unknown and not practiced here around this field of merits in compassion to former relatives, Deva gus.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
...total no problem to dwell and lay down in the cool shadow to heal at all and no need to ask for pardon when intended for progressing and to get fit for the battles so hard to win.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:52:39 AM
But they would not feed them in ways which might look as nurishing relations for wordly sake directly, for people not understanding would think "look, he is herding, carry for his cattle, he wasts the gift of the land, the heritage of the Gems for his becoming and own gain. Understood? Total no prob
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:45:29 AM
Never would people of integrity send away pets, petas or sick, for they are not able to change for now but possible can gain of what they need to change.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:42:28 AM
If, just to think about, one lives deliberatly with sign showing a rejection of firm trust in kamma, one lives in nurishing the danger of falling into grave wrong views and give ways that others follow what is improper to do. Just to reflect. How ever wishing to do.

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