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Offline Johann

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Release
« on: August 22, 2018, 04:35:20 AM »
My person likes to share his attaining of a long time wish: to get one day in contact with Ven. Thanissaro, which was generously made possible by. Upasaka Moritz .

Having tried to leave a message for a possible call back, my person finally sacrificed his alms round and meal of today.

Just now finished the call, my person was lucky to meet Ven. Tan Peter, who generously organised to speak with Most Ven. Thanissaro, and finally got the leave "take care".

This release. of lasting Nissaya between (my person) and moder/western words tradition was surely hard and of cause foreseen, had given some "sadness" (of releasing kind) but also deep mudita for this tradition to be on the way to get at least united.

May what ever fault has been done by whom every be no cause of backward for the relation between those wich similar tendency, nourish and maintain each other till the time they gain freedom from any Nissaya for themselves.

May who ever in modern or western world take and have the chance to get right in touch with the most outstanding teacher and leader of this Nissaya.

May all beings take part on the merits done here by .many and may the Devas inform those who have not been touched yet.

May the Sangha of Savakas of the Buddha last long in this world and may those who had gained Nissaya in previous times be always reminded on the path even if it may has disappeared to present in spheres of the khandhas.

Anumodana!
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Re: Release
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2018, 04:50:29 AM »
Sadhu! Sadhu! Sadhu!

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Re: Release
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2018, 05:02:46 AM »
Actually the fist contact gave rise to a lot of doubt, since it gave much reason that my person maybe did something which is not really wished, assuming that the gift on dhammatalks.org are first over dedicated. for the Sublime Sangha and it follower.

So my person thought, better then to build on assumings whould be to make things clear. In the moring, touched by malaria attack a little, my person checked if the bodily conditions would allow to let go of food another day to make a call in the wished hour. Then my person thought, "it's better to walk for alms, and if things go in certain way's, I will be back quickly and match the time."
So my person prepared his robes and took his bowl, then went down. Just this moment 3 fire-wood collector came up the hill. (something never hapens usually, that peoplehave the luck to meet my person on alms in the forest, and not fail to get gift accepted if thinking it would be taken at the dwelling). Having offered some rice, a little side dish an a bottle of water, having received a talk on Dhamma, delighted they returned to their work and my person had only a few meters back for today and another chance to call.

Ven. Tan Peter received the call. Obiviously not used to kind greatings and "zuvorkommenheiten", stressed like the people in call-centers, and my person as well ("how can I speak that he is not burdened and get's the point easy") my person started another time.

First making confession that my person took the teachings in trust and further dedicated them, as well as translations to the Sangha, after he could not make clear to whom their are dedicated but seeked refuge in a housholders way of "copyrights" and that this teachings are in the domain by Ven. Thanissaro and nothing further.

Then my person, after Ven. Than Peter started to understand that there have been dedicatiins and sacrifices made, my person started to offer, Sanghadana of the eight directions (asking the Sangha of wat Metta to acceot it for the Sangha at large) the translation incl. sangham.net, zugangzureinsicht.org, accesstoinsight.eu incl. all the many gifts received and maintained here for the Sangha of the eight direction. Not so used in using telefon, my person tried to make it formal (althought noting that he would not have the patient). Having made the declaration the fist time, just wanted to repeat it, Ven. Peter breaked into by asking "So you have made translations... you like to give..." Turning back to try to explain what, why, how... Ven. Sir then made the suggestion to prepair all in and order and then give it. Asking again of how my person would be able to give, to hand it over, the loop started again. Generously he gave a short thought of how he could step out of usuals, letter is not possible, email is only used for personal things, telefon is reserved to receive laypeople and overbooked... So he listened shortly and came to understand that my persons only dwelling reachable in modern worlds is sangham.net and that he is given and invited to register and make use of all and would find a possibility to understand the huge dedication it's amout and use.

Ven. Sir was a little introduced about al things and how they arouse, mostly short before Dhamma goodness and it's embodies died and about the huge amout of gifts dedicated for the Sangha of the eight directions.

He also said that their German translations-team dissolved (my person offered, saying that his skills are actually not great in regard of formal language) but that Ven. Thanissaro has a female disciple.

Getting more stressed since a lot of incoming calls have been rejected, Ven. Peter said that he will take a look at sangham.net and that he now needs to finish because many try to call.

Thinking that it's not proper to try it another time in a very modern conventional way and that it s a fact that those ways need to be walked toeach those caught in modern worlds, it is possible needed and required, like my person had told many many times, that the monastery helpers here, the devoted giver and server, take on another time the effort to hand it over if they wish.

For it's not at all my person's intention to take something or use something on which people in the world maintain their livelihood, not really dedicated for the three Juwels and to be pulked beyound.

Please feel not limited to act and do as you wish, for it's not really possible, very rare that two kinds of ancestor-ships would ever get in touch even if people have been very near related in the past.

Don't ever let macchariya overcome your mind and again, this counts fo every family, listening to their departing leaders: What dhammic leaders suggest .

Please be also aware that if someoe has become a "King", it natural to be sourrounded not only by wise and devoted minister and servants but also often the opposite.

And again, things do not come by it's own or wet well naturally by it's own, but havegneed causes, need sacrifices and require proper effort to appear.

Don't forget, it's not just a "normal" gift you prepeared here, just think on how less monasteries or real Dhamma-Dana gifts actually exist in this world in accordiance of the Dhamma and Vinaya and how less has not been alread fallen into sg13, how less are willing to change their ways, how less have found firm faith and real refuge in the Gems.

And no, it's not right if someone says that the Buddha just suggests when asked "Where should a gift been given", to just leave it up to once defiled mood, but if there is a chance, the only real benifical field of merits, for release, should be pointed out and such by nature is and can never be of personal interessed having left the lower fetters already beyond.

Anumodana!

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Johann

Today at 01:49:25 PM
Mag da Freude mit guten Unternehmungen sein.
 

Roman

Today at 01:46:28 PM
ich gehe jetzt wieder an die Arbeit. ich wünsche allen einen friedevollen Tag!
 

Roman

Today at 01:35:30 PM
ich würde mich sehr freuen dass mal mit eigenen augen zu sehen..habe auch geplant nächstes Jahr nach Kambodscha zu kommen.
 

Johann

Today at 01:14:27 PM
Thmo Duk , zur Zeit und schon gute Weile, Nyom Roman.
 

Roman

Today at 01:07:51 PM
Hello Cheav Villa

 

Roman

Today at 12:57:27 PM
Johann wo leben sie eigentlich? Khemakumara erzählte mir dass sie eine Höle bewohnen im aural gebirge, wie ich mich erinneren kann
 

Roman

Today at 12:53:28 PM
Hallo Johann
 

Johann

Today at 12:52:15 PM
Nyom Roman
 

Cheav Villa

Today at 09:03:03 AM
Kuna Prah Ang  :D _/\_
 

Johann

Today at 08:56:25 AM
Everything fine now with Nyoms settings? (Nyom Sokdina is Nyom Villas husband, right? My person is very ignorant in remembering names and relations.)

Kong Sokdina

Today at 08:18:06 AM
Because I Kuna cant go sangham.net
after move Gmail to mail Green.

Kong Sokdina

Today at 08:13:31 AM
Prah Ang
I kuna Villa using his Acct _/\_
 

Johann

Today at 08:04:33 AM
Nyom Kong Sokdina.
 

Johann

Today at 03:16:45 AM
A fruitful Sila-observance day for those obsering it today.
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 03:52:00 PM
Nyom Roman and Bhantes family will be surely happy and good that Bhante does not need to get much involved directly.
 

Cheav Villa

November 14, 2018, 03:40:07 PM
Kuna Prah Ang
 _/\_
The Kathina will be holding on Sat 17 and Sun 18. I kuna will meet both of Bhante Sreng and Bhante Khemearakuma to imform all about this, incl sharing much pictures.
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 03:14:40 PM
Good if Nyom could explain Bhante Sreng how to use the online monastery. Sadhu! A topic on Bhante Khemakumaras going forth can be found here . Good also if informing and share date of Kathina at Wat Ayom, and much pictures to share
 

Cheav Villa

November 14, 2018, 02:55:43 PM
Kuna Prah Ang,
As I kuna knowing that Prah Ang Khemareakuma
was staying in Ork Yum Pagoda.
This Saturday or Sunday I kuna would join the Kathin there, but now I kuna will send some about Bhante Khemareakuma via FB Prah Ang Sreng.
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 02:37:46 PM
Nyom Roman, Nyom Villa asked if she can help in something in regard of Bhante. Best when you talk in a new topic.
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 02:36:12 PM
Nyom Roman , Bhantes twin brother and his family asked how Bhante is. They miss him much and Bhante praisworthy focus on practice.
 

Cheav Villa

November 14, 2018, 02:27:20 PM
ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_
តើខ្ញុំកូណានឹងអាចជួយអ្វីខ្លះអ្វីអំពីព្រះអង្គ​ Khemareakuma?
 

Cheav Villa

November 14, 2018, 02:15:11 PM
ជំរាបសួរលោក​ Moritz
_/\_
 

Cheav Villa

November 14, 2018, 02:12:59 PM
កូណាមិនបានដឹងទេ ព្រះអង្គ​
 

Moritz

November 14, 2018, 02:12:36 PM
ជំរាបសួរ Cheav Villa _/\_
 

Moritz

November 14, 2018, 02:12:29 PM
Auf Wiedersehen, Roman. Ich schreibe dir noch zurück per E-Mail und mache hier am besten noch ein Thema auf für später.

_/\_
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 02:03:05 PM
Does Nyom Villa know Bhante Khemakumaras twin brother?
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 02:01:43 PM
Eine Reihe der neuen Mitglieder hier, Nyom Villa, Puthy... sind öfter in Kontakt und in den Klöstern Ayum und in Phnom Penh. Mag sein, daß jemand von den Upasikas kürzlich Kontakt hatte. Gut auch wenn Nyom guten Kontakt zu anderen Laien vor Ort Pflegt, hallo sagt...
 

Roman

November 14, 2018, 02:01:26 PM
ich danke ihnen Johann und Motiz für die informationen und unterstützung.
 ich muss  jetzt weiter. ich  wünsche allen einen friedevolle tag
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 01:46:29 PM
Ein paar generelle und erklärende Worte zum Thema Unterstützen hier: If willing to help the child, the "poor" the new, give to it's master, father!
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 01:41:23 PM
Atma denkt, kann aber auch sein, daß er anderwo lernt. Einweiser ist die Person, die einen neuen Mönch einweist, und kommt einem Vater gleich. Bhante Indannano ist Bhantes Einweiser (Upajjhāya). (Hier übrigens das Thema zu "Unte
 

Roman

November 14, 2018, 01:36:35 PM
Und wie geht es Ihnen Johann? wo sind sie untergebracht?
 

Roman

November 14, 2018, 01:34:00 PM
Bhante Khemakumara ist jetzt in Takeo bei Bhante Indannanno soweit ich mitbekommen habe ja? welche bedeutung hat ein Einweiser?
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 01:31:47 PM
Siehe Mountain kuti-sāmaggī weekend, Thmo Duk, end of last Rain-month 2018. . Bhante ist, wenn im Wat (Kloster) Ayum , sicher gut umsorgt von allen Seiten.
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 01:27:18 PM
Seit seinem Mitziehen mit seinem Einweiser soweit nichts gehört und wird, denkt Atma, vertieft in der Praxis sein. Nächste Woche kommt Bhante Indannano mit seinen Schülern. Vielleicht kommt Bhante Khemakumara auch mit.
 

Roman

November 14, 2018, 01:22:13 PM
wie geht es Khemakumara..dass ist sehr oft in meinen gedanken..ihn nicht direkt fragen zu können dass ist schwierig..nicht auf dem aktuellen zu sein..denke das liegt auch daran dass mich meine famile oft fragt..roman wie gehts marcel
 

Roman

November 14, 2018, 01:16:20 PM
Ja Johann das werde ich meiner familie vorschlagen!
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 01:10:27 PM
Nyom Roman kann jederzeit seine Familie hier her einladen. Da mögen alle mehr Bezug zu dem Streben bekommen und können stets auch Fragen stellen.
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 01:06:07 PM
Da wart ein Forum nur für Nichtklösterliche eingerichtet, zu dem man mit gewisser Mitgliedschaft zugang hat. Mag sicher ein passender Rahmen sein für solches, um da entspannend beizutragen, oder Aramikabereich (Oberforum).
 

Roman

November 14, 2018, 01:05:53 PM
Khemakumara und nicht marcel die person die sich an vergangenen haftet
 

Roman

November 14, 2018, 01:04:12 PM
ehrwürdiger Johann

ja ich vermisse meinen bruder! ich berichte meiner familie von den Ereignissen..Dass is einwenig schwer für mich da familie immer über Marcel spricht und die erinnerungen hochholen wie es mal war! ich versuche ihnen auch zu erklären wie sie es mir versucht haben zu verdeutl
 

Moritz

November 14, 2018, 01:00:07 PM
Ich habe deine Mail gelesen, Roman, und gerade nach einem Thema/Unterforum hier gesucht, was genau für solche Fragen gedacht war: zu erfragen/besprechen/organisieren, was man materiell beisteuern/unterstützen kann.
 

Roman

November 14, 2018, 12:57:01 PM
hallo moritz und johann
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 12:52:02 PM
Nyom Roman vermißt seinen Bruder sehr und kommt aus den Abschiedthemen ganz und gar nicht raus.
 

Moritz

November 14, 2018, 12:47:10 PM
Vandami Bhante _/\_
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 12:46:33 PM
Werte Herren
 

Moritz

November 14, 2018, 12:43:40 PM
Hallo Roman! _/\_
 

Johann

November 11, 2018, 01:00:38 AM
Sadhu Nyom. "May the Dhamma of the Buddha, and those following, be all beings refuge for a blessed life and beyond."
 

Mohan Gnanathilake

November 11, 2018, 12:31:09 AM
May the Dhamma be the greatest blessing in our lives today!
 

Mohan Gnanathilake

November 11, 2018, 12:30:17 AM
Möge heute das Dhamma der größte Segen in unserem Leben sein!
 

Johann

November 10, 2018, 03:31:36 AM
Sadhu! "May all given the right causes so that they experiance peace, prospery, friendships in their worlds today."

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