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2019 Jun 17 06:34:44
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2019 Jun 17 03:56:38
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2019 Jun 17 00:46:14
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2019 Jun 15 17:53:43
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2019 Jun 15 13:02:56
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2019 Jun 15 13:01:36
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2019 Jun 15 12:48:22
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2019 Jun 15 12:44:14
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2019 Jun 15 12:42:16
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2019 Jun 15 04:21:08
Johann: Nyom Villa. All fine? Nyoms fellows, like Nyom Buddhi... havn't been seen since longer. All fine with friends and family?

2019 Jun 10 04:05:23
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 10 01:47:04
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu

2019 Jun 10 01:28:53
Khemakumara: May all have a fruitful waxing moon Uposatha!

2019 Jun 10 01:26:44
Khemakumara: Silena sugatiṁ yanti. Through virtue they go to a good destination.  Silena bhoga-sampadā.  Through virtue is wealth attained.  Silena nibbutiṁ yanti. Through virtue they go to Unbinding.  Tasmā silaṁ visodhaye. Therefore we should purify our virtue.

2019 Jun 06 14:52:24
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ kana,  Bhante. The wound heals fast and good.

2019 Jun 06 13:46:02
Johann: Bhante is fine, at least better?

2019 Jun 05 11:53:33
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 05 05:19:35
Johann: "N'atthi santi param sukham", there is no peace equal the hail of release

2019 Jun 04 10:25:51
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Jun 04 05:13:11
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 02 12:03:42
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 02 00:29:09
Johann: May all enjoy the bliss of the fruitful observing of the Uposatha

2019 May 31 14:40:02
Cheav Villa: សាធុ​ សាធុ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 31 13:47:09
Johann: Sadhu and Anumodana Nyom.

2019 May 31 12:40:14
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2019 May 31 12:39:05
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2019 May 31 12:36:20
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2019 May 29 09:03:01
Johann: Had overseen Bhante here. Bhante Ariyadhammika  _/\_

2019 May 29 02:19:33
Khemakumara: Bhante Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 28 04:18:48
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 27 10:03:55
Johann: Much in German, Nyom, currently. Atma will try to translate as much as possible, step by step.

2019 May 26 03:04:21
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 26 03:04:06
Cheav Villa: សាធុ​

2019 May 26 01:02:17
Johann: Sadhu

2019 May 26 00:44:22
Khemakumara: May all have a meritful Uposatha day. Meeting some good friends (kalyanamitta) and som(e) sil(a) សំម សីល!

2019 May 24 14:13:29
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 May 24 13:28:52
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 24 05:23:33
Johann: Venerable

2019 May 24 05:22:57
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Johann

2019 May 24 02:08:29
Johann: Nyom Moritz, Nyom Villa.

2019 May 24 01:55:56
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 24 01:54:14
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2019 May 24 01:49:43
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 24 01:06:04
Johann: Venerable Ariyadhammika  _/\_

2019 May 20 04:14:26
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 20 01:31:27
Johann:  _/\_ Bhante Indannano

2019 May 19 11:28:39
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 May 19 11:27:48
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 18 23:55:08
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 18 10:34:49
amanaki: Thank you Johann  _/\_

2019 May 18 09:59:33
Johann: Nyom Amanaki. Mudita that you may have possible found what searched for on a special day.

2019 May 18 09:24:56
Maria:  _/\_

2019 May 18 09:24:35
Maria: werter Bhante!

2019 May 18 09:22:43
Johann: Nyom Mizi

2019 May 18 09:21:31
Johann: Nyom Sophorn, Nyom Villa... may all here but also there rejoice in own and others goodness.

2019 May 18 05:03:47
Cheav Villa: សាធុ​សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 18 02:16:49
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 14 07:51:30
Vithou:  _/\_

2019 May 14 05:40:54
Johann: As long as not using telefon while riding. Sokh chomreoun, Nyom.

2019 May 13 18:38:46
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ (sitting in Taxi)

2019 May 12 15:44:32
Johann: But better ask Nyom Chanroth, since Atma does not walk that far these days.

2019 May 12 15:04:01
Johann: not teally, Nyom Vithou. Still less water in the streams here. Some still dry. Needs a while down from the mountains and not that much rain yet.

2019 May 12 14:54:37
Vithou: how is the road Bhante? Is it float at the mountain leg?

2019 May 12 14:51:59
Vithou:   _/\_

2019 May 12 14:40:43
Johann: Nyom Vithou. Nothing special. Yes, rain is present every afternoon since some days.

2019 May 12 14:38:33
Vithou: Bhante, how is everything at Asrum? Is it raining everyday?

2019 May 12 07:05:30
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 12 03:58:19
Johann: a joyful day in merits on this Sila-day

2019 May 11 17:04:10
Cheav Villa:  :) _/\_

2019 May 11 16:16:56
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2019 May 11 05:35:39
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 11 00:52:44
Johann: an meritful Uposatha, those keeping it today

2019 May 10 17:14:43
Moritz: Chom reap leah, I am going to work. _/\_

2019 May 10 17:09:07
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 May 10 17:07:14
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 10 16:19:14
Moritz: Chom reap sour, bong Villa _/\_

2019 May 07 19:12:10
Johann: Nyom Vithou. Just some hours ago, thought of him.

2019 May 05 04:26:53
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2019 May 04 11:41:08
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 04 10:27:38
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 May 03 10:08:09
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2019 May 03 01:17:53
Johann: A meritful new moon Uposatha those celebrating it today.

2019 May 03 01:16:05
Johann: Talk box is buggy and lines love to jump. Better not editing.

2019 May 03 01:14:19
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2019 May 02 15:15:58
Cheav Villa:   <.I.> _/\_

2019 May 02 15:15:17
Cheav Villa: Sorry because of kh font doesn't run well on my phone. Kana go to edit  to see the right  shout but  was wrong by deleting Pou  Chanroth 's  shout

2019 May 02 15:01:04
Cheav Villa: Mudita  :) _/\_

2019 May 02 13:47:17
Moritz: Anumodana puñña kusala! _/\_

2019 May 01 14:49:38
Johann: Now some monks are so close to many, that they can be visited even by feet.

2019 May 01 06:27:25
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2019 May 01 06:22:36
Cheav Villa: Get lost in the jungle of Phnom Penh from 2pm till 6pm

2019 May 01 05:40:26
Cheav Villa: Bhante Khemakumara arrived at Wat Sophea Khun in late evening  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

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2019 Apr 29 08:51:27
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2019 Apr 29 03:07:40
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2019 Apr 29 02:59:19
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Apr 29 02:41:01
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Spiritual tourism and consume
« on: September 26, 2018, 11:48:02 AM »

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Dieses neue Thema (bzw. diese/r Beitrag/e) wurde  aus abgetrennten Beiträgen, ursprünglich in [Wat] Forest Monasteries in Sri Lanka , hinzugefügt. Für ev. ergänzende Informationen zur sehen Sie bitte das Ursprugsthema ein. Anumodana!
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Here is a comprehensive document on the subject.
Buddhist Forest Monasteries and Meditation Centres in Sri Lanka

Rakkhantu sabba devata!

Sadhu for the effort, Nyom gus .

Actually Bhante Nyanatusita Bhikkhu has been often "harshly" criticized by my person for his destructive social engagements and encouraging to spiritual consuming and tourism. Last here . Neither is it proper for a Bhikkhu to engage in social and enviromental activism, nor to serve for householders visa and travel issues. That's a paper for increasing the heat on earth. No need to speak about maintaining ones livelihood by using the stories of the sages and increase paper industries and forest-cutting as well. Dhammic protection looks different: Dhammischer Klimaaktivismus .

Upasaka Mohan Gnanathilake , btw., has surely much gain to get Nyom gus known, and maybe, since he is a German teacher, he has also the generosity to translate you and others certain things, either into Sinhalese or English.

* Johann : One, btw. , is of course also open to write in Sinhalese and to develope the place to be more accessible in this language.

It's possible necessary to tell that the long western influence had a lot of not so beneficial impacts on Sri Lanka, having brought it a lot of Miccha Ditthi, marxistic ideologies...

There is without much doubt a certain German/European/Jewish, merely scholar elite strongly marketing and controlling huge areas, not for the ease of those walking rightouse, not to speak of their marxistic and jewish/liberalistic idealogies they infuence huge parts mainly with what the Buddha called the Uposatha of the Jains which fits great to modern Nihilism and materialism.

At least this group has introduced selling of Dhamma into this world and make the Juwels their deal. Nothing to praise at all., especially of what the youngsters and yuppies are doing, still clinging on mothers skirt.

Anandajoti Bhikkhu has build up his own Dhamma trade.

Who ever does not play their games would have no chance to reach modern/western world, not to speak of practicing there with ease and without marketing, serving for householders enjoyments. Either they become the same (those are those who dwell in the west) or they return to places where the holly life still can be lived without corruption.

It was just some days ago that my person came accross similar ideas arising here in Cambodia and seeing the danger and effects clear, it was public adressed so that it reaches those in charge: Ministries pray to attract religious tourism .

Nyom my wonder about certain extrem seeming statements and might never had met someone speaking very openly. Doing such is at all of no personal benefit at all, but there are less having certain freedom and independency to do such. And it is not for the bad for those who are hardly rebuked but simply a matter of compession so that possible many may come to mind of what they are actually doing in whos name and with a punsh of apparent authority (Anscheinsvollmacht) to impose their ways as even standards of the Noble Ones.

Yet there are some sages and wise behind them, one would not easy met, since they are well imprisoned of them serving as income for those dealing with the Juwels.
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Re: Spiritual tourism and consume
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2018, 06:54:30 AM »
Okasa,
 
In my opinion, if one engaged with both Dhamma practice and dhamma trade, then he accumulate big merits and big demerits at the same time, like the ancient Buddhist kings who engaged in dhamma practice and war both.

Yet, Dhamma trade seems a serious offence.

I remember venerable bhikkhu Nanananda had to resign even from some of his free publishers, several times, in order to abstain from an indirect relationship with Dhamma trade.

He stresses the below in his Dhamma talks.

"Dhammena na vanijam care"

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Re: Spiritual tourism and consume
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2018, 07:37:36 AM »
Short before late Bhantes Death (did not know him more near and his state) my person tried to get in contact with him and told his servant to ask him, if his Dhamna-gifts may be taken and shared for the Sangha and the good following. Althought my person was told that he is very sick but they will try, it's not sure if it was brought to him, but sure is that the heritage of great "Gurus" is usually use by the near "family" to make there own further livelihood out of it.

One may let my person know if having overseen something. That's the problem of many good teacher who thing that accepting certain dependency othside the Sangha and tend more on laypeople who possible take more care and a longer time. That's abig failure and the reason why great teachers lineages last mostly just one generation: why? they give the heritage to householder (to look for householders of them) and with it it's gone.

That is why even in a high state possition one should not make sacrifices downwardly in an improper amout. Compassion is good as long as proper. If compassion is put higher as ones duties (sila) than, what ever not timely gift either increases attachments or is of harm for many.

And it's not so that someone when doing a little goid and a little bad, even in balance, goes upwardly for long terms, not to speak of being worthy to be praised.

Making a livelihood by sharing Dhamma is most corrupt and destructive, yet not dependig on ones clothes (think on the many priests) but actually even more destructive for the Sasana is monks have no shame to do themselves, telk to do, or show signs of agreement, praise... They kill the juwels for their belly and are the most shameful subjects this fellowship may carry with it. (platant or subtile: see trade Trade with Dhamma, exchange "Dhamma-Dana" . If incapable to tread them not to harm themselves and many, then one should reject gifts of corruptions, live on real alms, possible not so pleasing and wish them well? Issa would be most worng here, or aversion toward those people. They are weak and do not understand of what they actually do, leading many downwardly, thinking that's compassion and good to preserve.

What ever Dhamma does not come along with dana, sila... this Dhamma is good for the oven to heat Samsara and an enemy for release of those who would have possibilities.

May this often repeated sharp words bring many to mind.
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Comming into being and decay of Guru-relations
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2018, 05:45:30 PM »

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Ein oder mehrer Beiträge wurden hier im Thema abgeschnitten und damit in neues Thema "Comming into being and decay of Guru-relations " eröffnet, dem angehäng.
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