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2019 Jul 28 19:00:12
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2019 Jul 28 16:19:49
Johann: Over 1100 fine material visitor at the same time. Mudita and a blessed mindful night.

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Johann: over 700 "Devas" following Nyom Villa currently here  :) maybe they will reach 1000 today.

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2019 Jul 27 17:44:50
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2019 Jul 27 16:20:40
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Author Topic: Spiritual tourism and consume  (Read 3796 times)

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Spiritual tourism and consume
« on: September 26, 2018, 11:48:02 AM »

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Dieses neue Thema (bzw. diese/r Beitrag/e) wurde  aus abgetrennten Beiträgen, ursprünglich in [Wat] Forest Monasteries in Sri Lanka , hinzugefügt. Für ev. ergänzende Informationen zur sehen Sie bitte das Ursprugsthema ein. Anumodana!
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Here is a comprehensive document on the subject.
Buddhist Forest Monasteries and Meditation Centres in Sri Lanka

Rakkhantu sabba devata!

Sadhu for the effort, Nyom gus .

Actually Bhante Nyanatusita Bhikkhu has been often "harshly" criticized by my person for his destructive social engagements and encouraging to spiritual consuming and tourism. Last here . Neither is it proper for a Bhikkhu to engage in social and enviromental activism, nor to serve for householders visa and travel issues. That's a paper for increasing the heat on earth. No need to speak about maintaining ones livelihood by using the stories of the sages and increase paper industries and forest-cutting as well. Dhammic protection looks different: Dhammischer Klimaaktivismus .

Upasaka Mohan Gnanathilake , btw., has surely much gain to get Nyom gus known, and maybe, since he is a German teacher, he has also the generosity to translate you and others certain things, either into Sinhalese or English.

* Johann : One, btw. , is of course also open to write in Sinhalese and to develope the place to be more accessible in this language.

It's possible necessary to tell that the long western influence had a lot of not so beneficial impacts on Sri Lanka, having brought it a lot of Miccha Ditthi, marxistic ideologies...

There is without much doubt a certain German/European/Jewish, merely scholar elite strongly marketing and controlling huge areas, not for the ease of those walking rightouse, not to speak of their marxistic and jewish/liberalistic idealogies they infuence huge parts mainly with what the Buddha called the Uposatha of the Jains which fits great to modern Nihilism and materialism.

At least this group has introduced selling of Dhamma into this world and make the Juwels their deal. Nothing to praise at all., especially of what the youngsters and yuppies are doing, still clinging on mothers skirt.

Anandajoti Bhikkhu has build up his own Dhamma trade.

Who ever does not play their games would have no chance to reach modern/western world, not to speak of practicing there with ease and without marketing, serving for householders enjoyments. Either they become the same (those are those who dwell in the west) or they return to places where the holly life still can be lived without corruption.

It was just some days ago that my person came accross similar ideas arising here in Cambodia and seeing the danger and effects clear, it was public adressed so that it reaches those in charge: Ministries pray to attract religious tourism .

Nyom my wonder about certain extrem seeming statements and might never had met someone speaking very openly. Doing such is at all of no personal benefit at all, but there are less having certain freedom and independency to do such. And it is not for the bad for those who are hardly rebuked but simply a matter of compession so that possible many may come to mind of what they are actually doing in whos name and with a punsh of apparent authority (Anscheinsvollmacht) to impose their ways as even standards of the Noble Ones.

Yet there are some sages and wise behind them, one would not easy met, since they are well imprisoned of them serving as income for those dealing with the Juwels.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2018, 12:26:46 PM by Johann »
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Re: Spiritual tourism and consume
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2018, 06:54:30 AM »
Okasa,
 
In my opinion, if one engaged with both Dhamma practice and dhamma trade, then he accumulate big merits and big demerits at the same time, like the ancient Buddhist kings who engaged in dhamma practice and war both.

Yet, Dhamma trade seems a serious offence.

I remember venerable bhikkhu Nanananda had to resign even from some of his free publishers, several times, in order to abstain from an indirect relationship with Dhamma trade.

He stresses the below in his Dhamma talks.

"Dhammena na vanijam care"

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Re: Spiritual tourism and consume
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2018, 07:37:36 AM »
Short before late Bhantes Death (did not know him more near and his state) my person tried to get in contact with him and told his servant to ask him, if his Dhamna-gifts may be taken and shared for the Sangha and the good following. Althought my person was told that he is very sick but they will try, it's not sure if it was brought to him, but sure is that the heritage of great "Gurus" is usually use by the near "family" to make there own further livelihood out of it.

One may let my person know if having overseen something. That's the problem of many good teacher who thing that accepting certain dependency othside the Sangha and tend more on laypeople who possible take more care and a longer time. That's abig failure and the reason why great teachers lineages last mostly just one generation: why? they give the heritage to householder (to look for householders of them) and with it it's gone.

That is why even in a high state possition one should not make sacrifices downwardly in an improper amout. Compassion is good as long as proper. If compassion is put higher as ones duties (sila) than, what ever not timely gift either increases attachments or is of harm for many.

And it's not so that someone when doing a little goid and a little bad, even in balance, goes upwardly for long terms, not to speak of being worthy to be praised.

Making a livelihood by sharing Dhamma is most corrupt and destructive, yet not dependig on ones clothes (think on the many priests) but actually even more destructive for the Sasana is monks have no shame to do themselves, telk to do, or show signs of agreement, praise... They kill the juwels for their belly and are the most shameful subjects this fellowship may carry with it. (platant or subtile: see trade Trade with Dhamma, exchange "Dhamma-Dana" . If incapable to tread them not to harm themselves and many, then one should reject gifts of corruptions, live on real alms, possible not so pleasing and wish them well? Issa would be most worng here, or aversion toward those people. They are weak and do not understand of what they actually do, leading many downwardly, thinking that's compassion and good to preserve.

What ever Dhamma does not come along with dana, sila... this Dhamma is good for the oven to heat Samsara and an enemy for release of those who would have possibilities.

May this often repeated sharp words bring many to mind.
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Comming into being and decay of Guru-relations
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2018, 05:45:30 PM »

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Ein oder mehrer Beiträge wurden hier im Thema abgeschnitten und damit in neues Thema "Comming into being and decay of Guru-relations " eröffnet, dem angehäng.
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