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2019 Feb 20 15:56:46
Johann: see here

2019 Feb 20 13:33:02
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2019 Feb 20 13:31:37
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 18 14:34:39
Johann: Meister Moritz

2019 Feb 18 13:29:24
Moritz: Leaving. May Bhante and all have a good day. _/\_

2019 Feb 18 13:18:25
Moritz: _/\_

2019 Feb 18 09:31:39
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Feb 18 08:19:34
Johann: Where and what to practice?

2019 Feb 18 08:15:08
Johann: Where and when ever good inspired and worthy to give into.

2019 Feb 18 08:14:03
Johann: That place here is not that different, and Nyom did already a lot here. And don't forget: Punna iomething that arises in ones heart, not outwardly.

2019 Feb 18 07:34:01
Cheav Villa: ជាមួយនឹង​ក្រុម​​លោកម្ចាស់​ស្រេង​   _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 18 07:32:56
Cheav Villa: កូណាមិនបានទៅចូលរួមមាឃបូជានៅឱរ៉ាល់ឆ្នាំនេះ តែសង្ឃឹមនឹងបានទៅចូលរួម​ពិធីឡើងកុដិនៅខែ3 

2019 Feb 18 03:52:46
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 18 01:21:42
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2019 Feb 18 01:21:10
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 18 01:16:11
Johann: Bhante. Nyom Villa.

2019 Feb 18 01:14:29
Johann: Nyom Moritz. Sokh chomreoun

2019 Feb 18 00:34:02
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Feb 15 04:14:01
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 15 03:43:29
Johann: Another day, another possibility. We don't know what tomorrow might be

2019 Feb 15 03:43:01
Johann: ថ្ងៃ ថ្មី មួូយ ជា ឳកាស ថ្មី មួយ ទៀត។ យើង មិន អាច ដឹង មុន នូវ អ្វី ដែល នឹង កើតឡើង ថ្ងៃ ស្អែក

2019 Feb 12 05:47:26
Johann: Nyom Chanroth

2019 Feb 11 07:35:04
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 11 07:01:15
Johann: Bhante

2019 Feb 10 15:18:50
Vithou: Hope Preah Ang doing well too.. Thanks Preah Ang

2019 Feb 10 15:17:51
Vithou: Nhom kuna doing well so far.

2019 Feb 10 12:29:57
Johann: Nyom Vithou. But Nyom is well so far?

2019 Feb 10 12:02:00
Vithou: Actually they put in the kidnee. :)

2019 Feb 10 12:01:26
Vithou:  take it out on 20 Feb

2019 Feb 10 12:01:25
Vithou:  take it out on 20 Feb

2019 Feb 10 12:01:12
Vithou: the doctor put it for one month . I will

2019 Feb 10 12:00:28
Vithou: Kuna Tvay Bongkom Preah Ang  nyom kuna is fne now but still have a pipe inside mybody

2019 Feb 10 11:47:41
Johann: Sokh chomreoun Nyom Buddhi

2019 Feb 10 11:44:41
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាខានបានចូលមកក្នុងវេបសាយអានព្រះធម៌អស់ប៉ុន្មានថ្ងៃ

2019 Feb 10 11:41:53
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ Vandami Bhante

2019 Feb 09 14:43:21
Cheav Villa: សួស្តី​ពូចាន់រ័ត្ម _/\_

2019 Feb 09 14:42:08
Johann: ញោម Chanroth

2019 Feb 09 11:32:48
Johann: ខ្លះ ... how ever, good to here

2019 Feb 09 10:30:33
Cheav Villa: វិធូថាគាត់បានធូរខ្លះហើយ គាត់នឹងរកពេលទូលព្រះអង្គ តាម​Talk box  _/\_

2019 Feb 09 02:49:21
Cheav Villa: កូណាបានសួរគាត់ដែរ តែមិនទាន់មានការឆ្លើយតបទេ ប្រហែលជាគាត់រវល់ខ្លាំង  _/\_

2019 Feb 08 15:24:14
Johann: How is Nyom Vithou doing, Nyom Villa? Nyom Chanroth told that he still has burden after the hospital.

2019 Feb 07 13:07:06
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 07 13:04:40
Johann: Nearly out of power("suns gift") for today again. May all give into good deeds with their power left.

2019 Feb 07 13:04:33
Johann: Nearly out of power("suns gift") for today again. May all give into good deeds with their power left.

2019 Feb 05 13:35:45
Johann: Meister Vinodh

2019 Feb 05 08:45:20
Johann: មុដិតា

2019 Feb 05 07:46:50
Cheav Villa: អរព្រះគុណ​ ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ ពួកខ្ញុំកូណា បានធូរស្បើយ​ច្រើន​ អំពីបញ្ហាសុខភាពរាងកាយ​  _/\_

2019 Feb 05 07:25:29
Johann: Nyom Villa. Family, all healthy and well?

2019 Feb 05 03:34:18
Johann: Mr. Nathan

2019 Feb 04 13:42:11
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Feb 04 04:25:07
Cheav Villa: កូណា​ត្រេកអរ​ ដែលបានឃើញផ្លូវទៅមុខ ឧបនិស្ស័យ​ការបដិបត្តិ​ឧបោសថ​យឺតយូរ​  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 04 04:22:09
Cheav Villa: ការហាត់ធ្វើឧបោសថបានបន្តិចបន្តួួច ដោយវិធីស្រាយចំណងដែលជាប់មាំ

2019 Feb 04 04:18:58
Cheav Villa: ព្រះអង្គ​ _/\_ ចិត្តនឿយណាយចន្លោះពេលបានសុខ និងបានទុក្ខ

2019 Feb 04 04:04:13
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ កូណាព្រះអង្គ

2019 Feb 04 03:55:36
Johann: English iti 49

2019 Feb 04 03:51:37
Johann: Importand teaching in regard of wishing for becoming or not-becoming! ទិដ្ឋិគតសូត្រ (១២.)

2019 Feb 04 03:37:57
Johann: It can be observed free of all Sakaya ditthi as well.

2019 Feb 04 03:25:52
Johann: Uposatha is a good tradition to take on.

2019 Feb 04 03:24:53
Johann: This, the Buddha told, can not be archived by just wishing, Nyom, the end of suffering.

2019 Feb 04 02:23:26
Cheav Villa: May​ all possibilities in a rebirth has decreased  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 04 02:18:49
Cheav Villa: Since my grandmother, my dad, I kana has not taken on the traditional of Chinese new year

2019 Feb 04 01:28:26
Johann: An insightful Chines New Year and new moon day, a rebirth of another round of possibility in chosing ways with every action.

2019 Feb 03 16:08:02
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុព្រះអង្គvandami 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Feb 03 12:20:05
Cheav Villa:  កូណាព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ 

2019 Feb 03 12:10:00
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Feb 03 07:06:33
Johann: Nyom Buddhi

2019 Feb 02 16:53:13
Johann: All a matter of leaving house and not searching for the next, Nyom.

2019 Feb 02 16:51:36
Johann: Editing post here is not so good since there is a software issue, cutting away all to 200 characters.

2019 Feb 02 16:18:35
Ieng Puthy: ព្រះអង្គករុណានឹករលឹកភ្នំឱរា៉ល់ណាស់ សង្ឃឹមថាថ្ងៃណាមួយករុណានឹងបានទៅថ្វាយបង្គំុព្រះអង្គដោយផ្ទាល់ ។ បេីបុណ

2019 Feb 02 15:52:20
Johann: Nyom Buddhi

2019 Feb 02 15:35:54
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុVandami Bhante.

2019 Feb 02 15:33:38
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Feb 02 10:35:46
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Feb 02 08:36:16
Johann: Atma will then make a "sun-break" for today

2019 Feb 01 11:36:30
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំ🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻Vandami Bhante

2019 Jan 31 15:55:14
Johann: Bhante Muni

2019 Jan 30 15:40:30
Johann: Nyom Buddhi

2019 Jan 30 05:24:55
Johann: "sreng" is really "nasty" if becoming. It's also easy to get by sweeping dusty group and dry gras.

2019 Jan 30 04:35:46
Cheav Villa: កូណាព្រះអង្គ  _/\_

2019 Jan 30 04:11:18
Johann: It's possible not "sreng", Nyom, it's autumn diseas, and infection not to be healed. The origin why the Buddha allowed tonics ("food" at "wrong" time), weakness of the body.

2019 Jan 30 03:27:08
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 30 01:12:39
Sophorn: Bhante Khemakura, kana hofft, Bhante geht es besser!  _/\_

2019 Jan 30 01:12:10
Sophorn: Vandami Bhante Khemakura  _/\_

2019 Jan 30 01:11:53
Sophorn: Vandami Bhante Indannano  _/\_

2019 Jan 30 01:11:38
Sophorn: Vandami Bhante Johann _/\_

2019 Jan 29 10:12:10
Johann: Bhante. Wie geht es der Unterlippe?

2019 Jan 27 04:59:09
Johann: Nyom Vithou

2019 Jan 26 14:38:07
Cheav Villa: Vandāmi Bhante Indaññāno  _/\_

2019 Jan 25 16:12:30
Cheav Villa:  :o _/\_

2019 Jan 25 16:04:02
Johann: There are two, actually. Something to be careful about.

2019 Jan 25 15:39:25
Cheav Villa: Vilāsa  :D karuṇā found this meaning in Pāḷi Dictionary  _/\_

2019 Jan 25 15:24:52
Johann: No vaṇṇa-macchariya: rejoicing that other appear as vilasa as oneself... Sadhu!

2019 Jan 25 15:17:51
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 25 14:29:43
Johann: If Ñoma Buddhi likes to wear the color of an ārāmikinī, to be able to edit, add translations, corrections, it should be no problem. Ñoma Vīḷa might help to get known the "power and responsibility" of goodness.

2019 Jan 25 14:22:02
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏼អរព្រះគុណព្រះអង្គ

2019 Jan 25 11:55:49
Johann: No problem Nyom, that was clear (word prediction...). Only moderator and admin can edit text in the shoutbox.

2019 Jan 25 11:04:42
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Where are matured Sangha?
« on: September 27, 2018, 04:18:21 AM »
Dear Venerables and Upasakas,
I would like to raise a question which seems like silly but not really silly.

What is the sub-tradition/country-region where considerable number of elderly teacher sangha live in, in present days?

The Blessed One has said that the company of admirable-friends (kalyana mitta) is not a part but the whole of the holy life.

I wish even to reside in such a place/sub-tradition, if following qualities of the monks are met.

1.Considerable number of practicing elderly bhikkhus
2.Good Vinaya
3.Sangha Samaggi (meetings and compliance with each other)

May you all find a society of Kalyana Mittas !

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Re: Where are matured Sangha?
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2018, 06:28:54 AM »
Sadhu!

That is a very kusala desire if the desire is toward performing causes. If the desire is toward fruits it will cause nothing but pain. It's actually in accordiance the first lesson a disciple would receive. The foundation to grow in Dhamma.

If my person remembers right (one can reflect on the Maha Mangala Sutta as well):

1. Coming in touch with the good teachings (living in a period a Buddha and his heritage is present in ones (!) world.
2. to live in an Area where Dhamma is flourishing, e.g people at large follow right view (kamma, gratitute, generosity, parents, elders...)
3. being in accociation with admirable friends, not with Balas.
4. having done merits in the past.

At large, to answer, my person fears that the Savaka Sangha has possible left this world, possible still able to rescue and the less departing are not easy to see or to meet even if standing in front.

It's how ever wrong view to believe that the world is void of Arahats and similar.

Once, and only then, one has gained the change of ancestorship one self, one, and only then, one is able to consciously meet the ideal Sangha. Being part of the world it's always merely guessing, hope, desire, luck to meet the Noble Ones or "Mara".

Does Nyom gus understands the message?
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Re: Where are matured Sangha?
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2018, 07:16:09 AM »
Okasa Bhante,

Actually I'm not seeking for Arahants at once. I know it is impossible to distinguish ariyas by a puthujjana.

I just need to be in a good sangha society in which there is space for Ariya sangha if there are any (or at least good sangha).

Briefly: To live on a Ariya ground.

Metta.

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Re: Where are matured Sangha?
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2018, 07:32:38 AM »
In short Nyom gus : Without leaving home, such is not possible. Does Nyom understand the whole of this repeated message? A matter of upanissayapaccayena (strong condition causes), which is of course not determined but always open to change. Leaving house is required to see the Tathagata (his Dhamma and his Sangha). Seeing the Dhamma/Tathagata one has left house. Ready or still not?

One being in the middle of a "Buddhafield", if still maintaining house, one is not able to recognize. Giving it a try, to abond all 5 (6) kinds of maccharia is the prerequisite to be able to see the Ariya Ground and dwell in it.

If Nyom might give up his fine-material being and try to return here in a human existence, it's easier to understand Dhamma, easier to penetrate Dukkha and easier not being under the leader of the Devas, Mara.
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Re: Where are matured Sangha?
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2018, 07:51:43 AM »
Okasa Bhante,

If one is ready to leave home, then ?

If he ordains in a wrong place or observes nissaya under a wrong upajjhaya, then he will have to spend 5 years to be independent and go to a good place.

Shouldn't one think before leap?

Vandami !

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Re: Where are matured Sangha?
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2018, 09:29:48 AM »
Nyom gus ,

leaving a house to another is what most do when the ordain. Only if Seeing another, they leave.
Also leaving house might be not proper understood. (Aside of this one might be right, but remember the story of Maha Kassapa)

Let my person explain it later verbal and maybe Nyom is able to appear as human and in proper ways here as well till then.

A housholder will/would take refuge/ordain under householders, a pabbajita is of course not able to ordain under householders, and yes it's difficult to find a complete Sangha of Savakas who are not fallen into the live of householders. Very difficult. Nevertheless, leaving home under the Tripple Gems is still possible and this fist step requires just a single proper person and yes, the risk that no new house will ever be reacged anymore. Ready to leave home (taking the sense and their objects and all arising with it for real)?
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Re: Where are matured Sangha?
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2018, 05:24:07 PM »
Okasa,
Only if Seeing another, they leave.
Also leaving house might be not proper understood.

the risk that no new house will ever be reacged anymore.
I think I should keep strengthening the full-faith in kamma in order to maintain the readiness of mind for facing anything.

Vandami.

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Re: Where are matured Sangha?
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2018, 06:30:56 PM »
Yes. It's only about gaining right view. Effort (samma) turns around speech, deeds, livelihood and right view. Not samadhi. Makes no sense. That comes by it self one virtue is complete. As a householder generosity, all what works against the 5 (6) kinds of macchariya, is in addition importand.

May Nyom tries to give such simple things as given face (vanna macchariya) and Name (family macchariya), th
ake on a human birth here (leave the states of low Devas and Asuras of common internet-places), and it might be a first step of being able to get the heart open to hear pabbajito-Dhamma, having sacrificed this thought but useless protection.

It's now late and Atma leaves it to Nyom gus and nearly no internet-connection (hard to open a page and post). It's surfingtime in the cities...

Only short on "What should we do when dying": That's propably to late, but good to reflect that it could be next moment, to get not hold back by things that will be lost anyway and to start to learn "dying".

There is by the way a good place to formal request Dhamma-talks. This "silas" help a lot. Don't forget, as my person things he knows well, this world here is not different as to come to a monastery in more material ārāmaṃ/world/vihāre.

* Johann : (May Nyom guide other lay people who really do not know things at all with that what he had learned by his traditional ancestors, of what is proper, not usuall, cool, or modern. If Nyom is prepared, Atma will talk 48h till it may be understood. No problem.)
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