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Author Topic: Of One who went forth on simply faith into t. Gems, Gratidute to ones preceptor  (Read 257 times)

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Bhante Khemakumara , a name he got by my person. One can translate it into "Child of the Khmer" or "Son of refuge", or "Sukhasamanera" or "result of peace"... layed down all his trust to gain, one could say "a blessed birth" in the unknown.

Totally supported by Khema ("Khmer") he was fullfilled his first great dream of being able to follow the Buddhas step.

His preceptor gave him totally free where ever he likes to spend his first rain.

Found a new monastery on a small hill, perfect isolated, he felt that's perfect. Possible perfect practicing, he became fast an attraction for especially lay people.

It did not needed long and the silent place was growing to a noisy place, buildings, camera-teams around, ancestordays, delighted lay people... usual Monks around and...

how ever, he decided that it is impossible to stay, left all behind aside his two! robes and walked into the direction of Thmo Duk. After two days he arived, given by people who had a lot of compassion and saw a possibility worthy of great sacrifies.

As he arived here, not some days later, sort after he could join to go for alms, "accidently" (my person told him before, it's not possible to run away of ones kamma in this way) a lot of visitors came. Given to sleep on a bed given to the Sangha, by a 73 old person, who, high rearded Doctor, never visited the Monks, never really made Dana, never really bowed down or even listened the Dhamma. Now they did not really thought to met him the day they desided to make this journey....

Today, assistent of those people brought brick, started to bring material to the feed of the mountain, he reported, after my person send him to look or let know...

"So now they follow you, your merits..." Toughts of, "I should go, Bhante starts to get disturbed...", came up. Lot of stress, looking for Bhante, all new, thing, duties... so many things.

After a lot of reflections, provocations, mirrors, totally exhausted. Having even run away after having made somework that the Tipitaka would not get wet, just finish to put cement, rain starts to fall, asking for umbrella, leaving all behind to go back to solitude, so stressed.

Then this older Bhante went through the rain, having put all back, brought him all he forgot, and then spending alone the afternoon, asked to pay homage, since he found out that it is Siladay. Samaneras are used to make confession and renewing of Silas every week...

So what know. It's not possible to tell all but he could not find anything which requires confession, yet he desired to talk.

Because he found out very sublime fault, not in Sila, but as he could see the great goodness and luck he has. Deep gratitude and joy to be possible able to pay all back.

Atma did not asked him to tell and share his merits, but is certain sure that he delights to give something back which gives many strengh and joy, to let know about his refuge and possible leave a trace for others behind... a path open for those like to leave home even if just that read long and come to see...

Your childs/kamma, what you meet an see, give and gave food, cloth, shelter, medicine... sorrow or give leave for following as soon as possible.

One should rejoice by what ever good sacrifice one has done, little or large and build on it a suddenly much better becoming.

There are so many who have no Nissaya at all. Don't burden your with things not perfect yet. Remember the many children having no access to get taught at all.

A person of gratitude is a person who can rejoice with the merits of other, with workers for own liberation and fundamental work for it.

And there are "many" who try, so motivate each other, having seen burden of birth, aging, sickness and death and the many goodness received to meet a path.

Take part with your heart, don't stand behind the walls, if not already part or on the way to it.

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Having asked if Bhante likes to share his merits, not so easy to tell, of not only today, and dedicate it to his so many preceptors the long way: parents, family, teacher, supporters, remembering (or not), like people do here since one week and another more, not knowing where their ancestor took place, birth dwell... to find anywhere in this world, and any stages, inviting the devas of all realms.

He joyfully likes all beings take part of his merits, the way he is given by only giving a picture to delight, and asked to leave.

It's like old poor people, having lost all, some living alone since child, approaching, saying "Ven. Sir, pardon, i have only rice.", when Atma tells them, that they could not imagen of how many people "wealth", near or far, will possible never have such possibility she has/seesguses, ones estimate of ones real wealth and "luck", only by that, suddenly falls from poor to rich and sometimes not only in Deva realms.

May all walk out and see for themselves, find association with wise or increase them.

Let my person add a word of his Heart: "May my preceptor, Bhante Indananno, be my last, to be able to give all back soon!"

Anumodana!
« Last Edit: October 02, 2018, 05:08:38 PM by Johann »
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May venerable Khemakumara meet "asokam virajam Khemam" !

Hope:

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

tena kho pana samayena annataro bhikkhu aranne viharati, tassa ca tasmim senasane phasu hoti. atha kho tassa bhikkhuno etad ahosi: bhagavata pannattam na anissitena vatthabban ti, ahan c’ amhi nissayakaraniyo, aranne viharami, mayhan ca imasmim senasane phasu hoti. katham nu kho maya patipajjitabban ti. bhagavato etam attham arocesum. anujanami bhikkhave arannakena bhikkhuna phasuviharam sallakkhentena nissayam alabhamanena anissitena vatthum yada patirupo nissayadayako agacchissati, tassa nissaya vasissamiti.
Quote from: MAHAVAGGAPALI


Vandami.

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Generosly given by Ven. Bhante Khematto in English. Maybe Deva gus likes to give his share to Bhante, by pointing on the English part by himself.

Mahāvagga

It's so importand to do not forget our anccestors, especially if ones is rich, in what ever at this time.
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Maybe Deva gus likes to give his share to Bhante, by pointing on the English part by himself.
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It's so importand to do not forget our anccestors, especially if ones is rich, in what ever at this time.
Okasa bhante I couldn't get what you meant.

I was just quoting an important part (permitted anissita vihara) in the Mahavagga. In Atthakatha this part is described as a permission given by the Blessed One to meditative monks who practice kammatthana but yet unable to find a proper nissaya-dayaka.

Vandami.

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Does Nyom like to hear of what short after my Person told him about the Bessing and really much thinking, seing the last day, he desired to told.

Bante, my person thinks that after Vassa, my person will try to get near my preceptor back, and try to become a good educated Bhikkhu under him, not wasting time, when ever possible.

Some years ago when he desided to work his way out to be able to follow the Buddha, the Dhamma, the Sangha, wishing to make a gift, he sended all his books of Dhamma to my person.

Under it, the Mahavagga (he bought, and other things from bookstores and similar) My person gave it further and it has gone back where it has originated at least.

What ever is given, is not lost. Especially if Dana is based on strong faith in Sila, not to do wrong for it.

Mudita
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Sadhu! Sadhu! Sadhu!

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Johann

Today at 09:00:29 AM
Nyom Roman.
 

Johann

October 20, 2018, 02:52:14 AM
Atma leaves for alms round, Nyom Villa.
 

Johann

October 17, 2018, 06:01:23 PM
May all spend meritorious/good and higher last hours of this Sila-day.

Sokh chomreoun (may well being be developed [by everyone])
 

Johann

October 16, 2018, 03:15:10 PM
Nyom Roman.
 

Johann

October 12, 2018, 04:13:16 PM
Good to see Nyom Norum.
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 10:38:10 AM
Maybe of support for lasting satifaction: Seeds of Becoming .
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 06:57:38 AM
When ever love arises, dislike will be it's end. Who ever seeks out for friends, will get his enemy. Why? Because not willing to leave home. May wanderer gus find the way to never return. Mudita

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:58 AM
Vandami.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:22 AM
Nevertheless my courage of active participation  has been fallen down. Anyway I hope to come time to time.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam khamata me bhante.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:37:11 AM
Okasa bhante,

I didn't accepted Dymitros invitation to start a Theravada forum, because I thought this forum is pure Theravada. Now I regret about it, yet think this forum is comparatively good.  I learnt many valuable things from you and grateful to you. Nevertheless my courage of active partici
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 02:20:29 AM
What ever one searches for, that he/she will find. Less are those seeing the nature of combined thing, leaving home and go beyond Maras domain.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:45:18 PM
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:39:12 PM
When one is born in outer regions ... your island has drifted away.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:30:00 PM
macchariya, a boarder hard to cross to the middle way, abounding home, sakayaditthi, doubt and rituals.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:33:02 PM
However much one say, West is West, East is East.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 02:28:29 PM
Where ever there is east, there is west. And vici versa. Where ever there is nama, there is rupa. Where ever one seeks for a home, there he will suffer.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:03:31 PM
West is West

gus

October 06, 2018, 09:56:42 AM
belief of kamma, gratitude, independence, honesty, devotion : These are hard to find in people
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:49:14 AM
Again, a latin proverb mit be useful: Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi , patisota is always harmful if not just one own defilements or having a proper stand to help. Sota is the virtue required to resist in borderlands.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:41:52 AM
If in a borderland it's better to simply serve and support the Sangha. It's not smart to seek for other householders to nurish on traced imperfections of something required to uphold, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 04:54:48 AM
Okasa, happy to hear such things reagarding kamma. Many monks I have met don't directly speak about kamma because they have been tired after practicing some years and now bit relaxed.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:17:26 AM
Such can be total kusala and total akusala or simply defuse. Set your mind right and be mindful, that nothing will be of harm for yourself and others.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:15:27 AM
There is nothing not permitted. Merits or demerits are the actors responsibility. One is full in charge of ones action in this Domain here, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 03:50:00 AM
Bhante, is it permitted to ask questions or post things on behalf of other/future people ?

gus

October 05, 2018, 09:19:32 AM
We have been advised like this:
"No matter however much monks reject you,
Never leave the place."
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 09:09:37 AM
It's good when wanderer gus takes a rest, turns to a lonly place, enjoys the merits done and find a good place for his mind and fixes possible open wholes when clear where he likes to go some hours later.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 08:59:03 AM
Wanderer Gus knows how foolish this statement is. That is not the way to get out of a hole.

gus

October 05, 2018, 08:42:59 AM
okasa,
falling down from a status is suffering.
So, if I could stay in the hell-being status from the beginning, then no suffering.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:33:20 AM
From a state of a young Bhikkhu equal tradition...to householder... ...asura (now) on the border to animal, peta, hell-state. It can go quick if not having firm nissaya.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:29:27 AM
Aniccam vatta samsara...

gus

October 05, 2018, 06:56:28 AM
Evolution:
Bhante subhuti =>
Upasaka gus =>
Deva gus =>
Asura gus.

In the future:
Asura gus =>
Peta gus =>
Animal gus =>
Hell-being gus ???

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:51:42 AM
Okasa, I think bhante thinks me as a patriot because of some content of my posts. But it is not.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 05:41:33 AM
What ever one likes to, not touched like the moon, does not mean to praise what is blameworthy and vici-versa and to have metta not to let people run into hell if ways can be pointed out. Yet other choices at least are their. Be quick, your island drifts away!

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:34:15 AM
Okasa,
As long as I don't do exactly what you say, I think I'll not be able to make you happy or satisfied.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 02:12:55 PM
If thinking that this is for sure, if delighting in believing that connected things are a refuge and give space to rest: one may do so. Ones own choice. When ever one stops to nurish inwardly, ouwardly path and fruits die. Good as well as bad.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:28:51 AM
If bhante didn't let the weak person to live in avatar/deva mode, then he will lose both openness and connection. Up to now I have secured at least the connection.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:22:24 AM
Yet I appreciate and pay vandana for your care and advice on openness.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:19:56 AM
Please forgive me  bhante if I have made you tired. I don't like to accumulate akusala by making a monk tired in expecting a naughty chicken to be a good duck.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam Khamtu me bhante!
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:07:06 AM
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
Differnt asked "why is Bhante not happy, dwell not in outwardly seeming being not touched?" Because it would not only confirm and show sign of aggreement of unwise acts, but also very incompassionate and cruel. Also place for suspecting corrupt ways and invite others to follow the comfortable dwelli
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:54:12 AM
No one is able to make my person angry, which does not mean that he would not appear angry so to possible prevent from doing what is not conductive for liberation, even lead in lower states. Nothing to worry, but also no invitation to test it foolish since it could hurt one self and others.

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:46:39 AM
Okasa bhante, Isn't there at least single way to stay anonymous without making you angry?
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:33:12 AM
corr: "it's, the domain of the Noble Ones, is nobody's personal domain" there are no wards around fields for merits and no tickets to pay
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:29:31 AM
What ever Deva gus feels inspired. It's oneones personal domain and all giving is good in the distance of the brigh cool moon. One should not fear, should not be shy to do what is good and praised by the wise but be quick!

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:21:39 AM
Bhante, is that mean you don't like me to talk about higher subjects and like to talk about basics only?
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:02:12 AM
It would be more than good if teaching others a lot on the topic vandami (paying respect) and khamatu (asking for forgiviness) since unknown and not practiced here around this field of merits in compassion to former relatives, Deva gus.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
...total no problem to dwell and lay down in the cool shadow to heal at all and no need to ask for pardon when intended for progressing and to get fit for the battles so hard to win.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:52:39 AM
But they would not feed them in ways which might look as nurishing relations for wordly sake directly, for people not understanding would think "look, he is herding, carry for his cattle, he wasts the gift of the land, the heritage of the Gems for his becoming and own gain. Understood? Total no prob
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:45:29 AM
Never would people of integrity send away pets, petas or sick, for they are not able to change for now but possible can gain of what they need to change.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:42:28 AM
If, just to think about, one lives deliberatly with sign showing a rejection of firm trust in kamma, one lives in nurishing the danger of falling into grave wrong views and give ways that others follow what is improper to do. Just to reflect. How ever wishing to do.

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