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When one is born in outer regions
« on: October 04, 2018, 12:45:27 AM »

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

When one is born in outer regions
where the Buddha's teachings are unknown,
and where people are always doing evil deeds
with no idea of merits,
one can never do any worth while skilful deed
even if one is born in to wealthy circumstances.
Quote from: Lo-wada Sangarava
A Sinhalese poem of
the 15th century
by
Venerable Vidagama Maitreya Mahathera

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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2018, 01:59:44 AM »
Now, as Deva gus has come out of regions where the Buddhas teachings, the protective techings are known and carried out.

Althought people are wealth in merits by doing a lot of outwardly sacrifies, they are used to do a lot of evil deeds.

Quote from: Deva gus
ehemayi/eheyi !
(yes sir it is.)
This is how laymen and younger monks reply to monks in Sri Lanka.
Regardless of the acceptability of the statement of the monk, we can protect our selves by saying "ehemai" to anything a monk say, without involving in an argument.
May I say ehemai to you in futur

So listen carefully, now possible by doing a lot of outer sacrifies toward the people who live in the middle of wher the teaching of the Buddha floris, are adopted and carried out by those who follow:
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2018, 02:04:19 AM »
May the merits, the accumulated wealth be protected by unshakeable faith, devotion an love toward those who have layed down the weapons, do not even harm a plant or seeds.
May the shame and fear to be disregarded from old friends and beloved family protect and the power gained by wealth not overhelm the skilfull root.

Listen carefully Deva, listen carefully!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2018, 02:10:28 AM »
It's usual, for the sake of relation, for the sake of nurishing and grow together, for the sake of identification the short pleasure to delight of what is not lasting, to do a lot of evil, do a lot, no wealth, bondage and relation, no army of friends, dependencies and soldies, no host of Yakkhas, Gardudas, Maras are able to prevent when its fruits, the result of actions ripe.
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2018, 02:15:44 AM »
When a wealthy person harms the poor, mistreates a beggar, mistreats those who have no means to bear or to defend, it might be that those would beg for metta, agree on evil deeds done by wealth, like the wealth by saying ehemayi/eheyi, for the sake to be not cut off to gain relation, to become rich one time.
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2018, 02:19:14 AM »
Willing to nurish, desire for delight on the pleasure, this short lasting bliss of fools, living outwardly of the dispension of the Noble ones, for the sake of becoming, identification and to enjoyment on poision, the illusions Mara binds being(s) in the world.
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2018, 02:21:56 AM »
Less are those, either poor or rich of merits, who are capable to have great devotion, great love, fear to fall apart, shame, to be disregarded, by the family they so strong desire to be part of it.
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2018, 02:26:54 AM »
More are those, when gained great wealth, huge wealth, tread others, for the sake of short enjoyments, abuse, doing harm and not seeing, not having heard the teachings of the Noble Ones, fall from their heavens back into hell.

Difficult is it to gain a good human state, and not to endless turn around the outwardly areas where the teaching of the Buddha are difficult to ever met.
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2018, 02:34:35 AM »
Now Deva, as you have come here, in great love and desire to gain unshareable relations to a family firm and unshare able, asokam varijam khemam mangala mangala muttama,
dont waste your merits don't try to hide, before you fall again behind the wall and even if so near, become incapable to nursh for delight of the protective food this family of Noble One spread to try to nursh those on border lands, old relatives and friends, relations and dependencies they have left behind. Listen Deva, as long as your merits last!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2018, 02:35:50 AM »
Take all your lasting merits and try to get a human state!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2018, 02:42:00 AM »
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2018, 02:49:18 AM »
Quick it is, by living in lands where the teachings of the Buddha do not florish, that if having gained great wealth, one does not only enjoy be treadingothers who are now just on the lower side of Maras wheel of short lasting delight,

being drunken don't harm just an ordinary beggar, or and ordinary relative.
Quick one can kill ones relatives, even an arahat, or case a split in families near the Noble ones!

So take all woul wealth gained, all the lasting merits, gained by sacrifies toward the family you so long desire to join: Use it to gain a human state! Sit down now where you are in the middle of an inwardly territorium of those having left home not for coming again!

Bow down to those you so long desire to join! And let them know if your love is of honest desire, of wishing the leave the circle of birth and death, now where there are possible some merits left.

Be quick! Deva! Be quick! Don' waste you time! Easy to fall appart for very long, long time possible never met again!

Take a human stand!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2018, 02:54:01 AM »
Corrupted by Brahmans, one hardly may see ones chance, delighting in merits, not seeing old age, sickness and death, feeling secure in this tiny rest of merits!

Be quick, as you now here, in the middle of the family you so long desired to join. Your island drifts apparat, you thought being on a secure place!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2018, 02:59:45 AM »
Many are those, hidding there reality in robes of came, and trade with fools, come and take this "Make your self an island"!

Be quick, and see the wheel of birth and death, by yoniso manasikara! Now as you may have some merits left!

Take a human state, and bow down to the family, you so long desired to join, your illusionary island drifts a way!

The home you hold for real!

Now as you have made the merits toward the family you so long desired to join!

Don't be headless, remeber the pain, rhe many sacrifice the many suffering in times you had been fallen into the realms of poor!
Far away from lands where the Buddhas teachings can be heard.
Sit down, in a human state, don't spinn around like a fool!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2018, 03:08:25 AM »
Now in the middke of a Buddhafield you made so many sacrifies and assisted to errect for your own and all others benefit.

Sit down, take face, bow down to the Noble Ones!

Former relative, Deva gus ! Don't be a fool and neglect! Be quick!
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Maybe of support for lasting satifaction: Seeds of Becoming .
 

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October 07, 2018, 06:57:38 AM
When ever love arises, dislike will be it's end. Who ever seeks out for friends, will get his enemy. Why? Because not willing to leave home. May wanderer gus find the way to never return. Mudita

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:58 AM
Vandami.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:38:22 AM
Nevertheless my courage of active participation  has been fallen down. Anyway I hope to come time to time.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam khamata me bhante.

gus

October 07, 2018, 03:37:11 AM
Okasa bhante,

I didn't accepted Dymitros invitation to start a Theravada forum, because I thought this forum is pure Theravada. Now I regret about it, yet think this forum is comparatively good.  I learnt many valuable things from you and grateful to you. Nevertheless my courage of active partici
 

Johann

October 07, 2018, 02:20:29 AM
What ever one searches for, that he/she will find. Less are those seeing the nature of combined thing, leaving home and go beyond Maras domain.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:45:18 PM
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:39:12 PM
When one is born in outer regions ... your island has drifted away.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 11:30:00 PM
macchariya, a boarder hard to cross to the middle way, abounding home, sakayaditthi, doubt and rituals.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:33:02 PM
However much one say, West is West, East is East.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 02:28:29 PM
Where ever there is east, there is west. And vici versa. Where ever there is nama, there is rupa. Where ever one seeks for a home, there he will suffer.

gus

October 06, 2018, 02:03:31 PM
West is West

gus

October 06, 2018, 09:56:42 AM
belief of kamma, gratitude, independence, honesty, devotion : These are hard to find in people
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:49:14 AM
Again, a latin proverb mit be useful: Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi , patisota is always harmful if not just one own defilements or having a proper stand to help. Sota is the virtue required to resist in borderlands.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 05:41:52 AM
If in a borderland it's better to simply serve and support the Sangha. It's not smart to seek for other householders to nurish on traced imperfections of something required to uphold, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 04:54:48 AM
Okasa, happy to hear such things reagarding kamma. Many monks I have met don't directly speak about kamma because they have been tired after practicing some years and now bit relaxed.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:17:26 AM
Such can be total kusala and total akusala or simply defuse. Set your mind right and be mindful, that nothing will be of harm for yourself and others.
 

Johann

October 06, 2018, 04:15:27 AM
There is nothing not permitted. Merits or demerits are the actors responsibility. One is full in charge of ones action in this Domain here, wanderer gus.

gus

October 06, 2018, 03:50:00 AM
Bhante, is it permitted to ask questions or post things on behalf of other/future people ?

gus

October 05, 2018, 09:19:32 AM
We have been advised like this:
"No matter however much monks reject you,
Never leave the place."
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 09:09:37 AM
It's good when wanderer gus takes a rest, turns to a lonly place, enjoys the merits done and find a good place for his mind and fixes possible open wholes when clear where he likes to go some hours later.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 08:59:03 AM
Wanderer Gus knows how foolish this statement is. That is not the way to get out of a hole.

gus

October 05, 2018, 08:42:59 AM
okasa,
falling down from a status is suffering.
So, if I could stay in the hell-being status from the beginning, then no suffering.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:33:20 AM
From a state of a young Bhikkhu equal tradition...to householder... ...asura (now) on the border to animal, peta, hell-state. It can go quick if not having firm nissaya.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 07:29:27 AM
Aniccam vatta samsara...

gus

October 05, 2018, 06:56:28 AM
Evolution:
Bhante subhuti =>
Upasaka gus =>
Deva gus =>
Asura gus.

In the future:
Asura gus =>
Peta gus =>
Animal gus =>
Hell-being gus ???

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:51:42 AM
Okasa, I think bhante thinks me as a patriot because of some content of my posts. But it is not.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 05, 2018, 05:41:33 AM
What ever one likes to, not touched like the moon, does not mean to praise what is blameworthy and vici-versa and to have metta not to let people run into hell if ways can be pointed out. Yet other choices at least are their. Be quick, your island drifts away!

gus

October 05, 2018, 05:34:15 AM
Okasa,
As long as I don't do exactly what you say, I think I'll not be able to make you happy or satisfied.
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 02:12:55 PM
If thinking that this is for sure, if delighting in believing that connected things are a refuge and give space to rest: one may do so. Ones own choice. When ever one stops to nurish inwardly, ouwardly path and fruits die. Good as well as bad.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:28:51 AM
If bhante didn't let the weak person to live in avatar/deva mode, then he will lose both openness and connection. Up to now I have secured at least the connection.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:22:24 AM
Yet I appreciate and pay vandana for your care and advice on openness.
Vandami.

gus

October 04, 2018, 11:19:56 AM
Please forgive me  bhante if I have made you tired. I don't like to accumulate akusala by making a monk tired in expecting a naughty chicken to be a good duck.
Okasa dwarattayena katam sabbam accayam Khamtu me bhante!
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:07:06 AM
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
Differnt asked "why is Bhante not happy, dwell not in outwardly seeming being not touched?" Because it would not only confirm and show sign of aggreement of unwise acts, but also very incompassionate and cruel. Also place for suspecting corrupt ways and invite others to follow the comfortable dwelli
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:54:12 AM
No one is able to make my person angry, which does not mean that he would not appear angry so to possible prevent from doing what is not conductive for liberation, even lead in lower states. Nothing to worry, but also no invitation to test it foolish since it could hurt one self and others.

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:46:39 AM
Okasa bhante, Isn't there at least single way to stay anonymous without making you angry?
Vandami.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:33:12 AM
corr: "it's, the domain of the Noble Ones, is nobody's personal domain" there are no wards around fields for merits and no tickets to pay
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:29:31 AM
What ever Deva gus feels inspired. It's oneones personal domain and all giving is good in the distance of the brigh cool moon. One should not fear, should not be shy to do what is good and praised by the wise but be quick!

gus

October 04, 2018, 10:21:39 AM
Bhante, is that mean you don't like me to talk about higher subjects and like to talk about basics only?
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 10:02:12 AM
It would be more than good if teaching others a lot on the topic vandami (paying respect) and khamatu (asking for forgiviness) since unknown and not practiced here around this field of merits in compassion to former relatives, Deva gus.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:55:38 AM
...total no problem to dwell and lay down in the cool shadow to heal at all and no need to ask for pardon when intended for progressing and to get fit for the battles so hard to win.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:52:39 AM
But they would not feed them in ways which might look as nurishing relations for wordly sake directly, for people not understanding would think "look, he is herding, carry for his cattle, he wasts the gift of the land, the heritage of the Gems for his becoming and own gain. Understood? Total no prob
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:45:29 AM
Never would people of integrity send away pets, petas or sick, for they are not able to change for now but possible can gain of what they need to change.
 

Johann

October 04, 2018, 09:42:28 AM
If, just to think about, one lives deliberatly with sign showing a rejection of firm trust in kamma, one lives in nurishing the danger of falling into grave wrong views and give ways that others follow what is improper to do. Just to reflect. How ever wishing to do.

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