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2019 Apr 25 07:32:44
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻អរព្រះគុណ ព្រះអង្គ

2019 Apr 25 04:42:51
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, Nyom. (May well-being come to fullfillment.)

2019 Apr 25 02:30:46
Ieng Puthy: តេីលោកRoman មានបំណងទៅវត្តអកយំនៅថ្ងៃណាដែរ?ព្រះអង្គ🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Apr 25 02:29:26
Ieng Puthy: ករុណានិង បងសុភឿន នឹងជូនលោកRoman ទៅវត្តអកយំបាន

2019 Apr 25 02:28:00
Ieng Puthy: ករុណានិង បង សុភឿន នឹងជួយស

2019 Apr 25 02:27:00
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុព្រះអង្គ Vandami Bhante

2019 Apr 24 17:56:05
Cheav Villa: កូណា សរសេរពួកយើង​ គឺជំនួសមុខ​ បងពុទ្ធីនិងសុភឿន  _/\_

2019 Apr 24 17:54:42
Cheav Villa: បង​ពុទ្ធី បានអោយកូណាសួរអំពីពេលវេលា​ ដែលលោកRoman នឹងទៅអកយំ _/\_

2019 Apr 24 17:52:47
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_  កូណាបាន ប្រាប់បងពុទ្ធី និង​សុ​ភឿន ប្រសិនបើគាត់អាចជួយបាន ព្រោះកូណាមិនមានសេរីភាពច្រើនដូចពួកគាត់

2019 Apr 24 17:01:34
Johann: Modern (ab)art of conversation and old patient culture...  :) great training only serious take on and rushing hide on messanger, fb, or in the ocean of Maras internet. Mudita.  :)

2019 Apr 23 13:36:18
Cheav Villa: Kana :D _/\_

2019 Apr 23 13:24:57
Johann: ? But light is always good. Oh, maybe the honey bee candles...: Atma told Upasika Sophorn to take them with her to share, since the mices would eat them away here. Mudita

2019 Apr 23 12:52:51
Cheav Villa: Kana Preah Ang  _/\_ Vithou told kana that Bhante sending us a pair of candles all through Bang Sophorn  :D _/\_

2019 Apr 23 12:06:15
Johann: Nyom Villa. Atma does not understand all circumstances but much mudita and appreciantion with sharing merits with each other, taking each other along good.

2019 Apr 23 11:04:23
Cheav Villa: កូណា ទើបបានដំណឹងពី Vithou ថាព្រះអង្គផ្ញើទានមួយគូមក តាមរយៈ​បងសុភ័ណ​ ខ្ញុំកូណា​សូម​អរព្រះគុណ​  :) _/\_

2019 Apr 23 11:02:19
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 23 02:03:31
Johann: Nyom. (smilies of the common places are not visible here for many)

2019 Apr 22 17:36:16
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាសូមថ្វាយបង្គំុ Vandami Bhante

2019 Apr 22 15:54:07
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz  _/\_

2019 Apr 22 15:03:17
Moritz: _/\_ Bong Villa

2019 Apr 20 07:30:33
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Apr 20 05:25:34
Moritz: _/\_ bong Vithou

2019 Apr 19 06:30:18
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Apr 19 06:25:58
Moritz: _/\_ bong Villa

2019 Apr 19 06:25:48
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2019 Apr 19 02:23:14
Cheav Villa:  សាធុ​ៗ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 19 01:42:18
Johann: Another fullmoon, another chance. It's not sure that breaking apart will make it the last. May all spend a auspicious Uposatha.

2019 Apr 17 15:33:54
Chanroth:  _/\_ bong Moritz

2019 Apr 17 15:32:22
Chanroth:  _/\_bong villa

2019 Apr 17 15:31:07
Chanroth:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 17 07:11:18
Johann: Bhante

2019 Apr 17 05:05:51
Johann: Bhante  _/\_

2019 Apr 17 02:16:55
Johann: May all bring some merits left into this new year for them!

2019 Apr 12 17:30:17
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 12 14:39:05
Johann: Nyom Moritz, Nyom Villa

2019 Apr 12 14:27:27
Cheav Villa:  _/\_  Master Moritz

2019 Apr 12 14:26:24
Moritz: _/\_ Bong Villa

2019 Apr 12 14:26:12
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2019 Apr 12 14:09:15
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 12 01:54:32
Johann: A meritful Sila-day and much rightly joy by doing merits.

2019 Apr 09 08:24:39
Johann: Meister Moritz

2019 Apr 09 08:14:00
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2019 Apr 06 19:12:07
Moritz: Vandami, Bhante _/\_

2019 Apr 06 08:32:11
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 06 07:44:05
Johann: _/\_ Bhante Indannano, Bhante Khemakumara

2019 Apr 06 06:51:05
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 05 14:37:22
Khemakumara: Nyom Roman

2019 Apr 05 14:35:22
Johann: Bhante, Meister Roman

2019 Apr 05 14:18:13
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2019 Apr 05 09:58:10
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 Apr 05 09:55:43
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 05 09:53:07
Khemakumara: Nyom Moritz

2019 Apr 05 07:23:13
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Apr 05 05:41:00
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Apr 04 02:43:01
Johann: May all spend a meritful old month over New month birth day this day.

2019 Apr 03 21:09:04
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 03 13:50:42
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 03 13:23:48
Johann: Sadhu

2019 Apr 03 13:07:53
Khemakumara: Tomorrow is new moon uposatha,  take this noble opportunity to come together in khema (peaceful).  It is not common,  that living beings are in contact with Buddha,  Dhamma, Sangha.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 02 15:20:21
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 02 05:09:56
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Apr 02 04:40:57
Moritz: Good morning Bhante and Chanroth _/\_ And good night to me. :)

2019 Apr 01 17:12:00
Moritz: Good evening Bhante. _/\_

2019 Apr 01 15:16:08
Johann: Nyom Chanroth, Nyom Villa (mudita that those wishing to stay in touch are able here)

2019 Apr 01 04:29:01
Johann: One not having overcome sakayaditthi is not capable to judge right and will always be corrupt.

2019 Mar 31 01:02:21
Johann: One would not let go of ones stand/home.

2019 Mar 31 01:00:01
Johann: As long as Saddha does not arise, it's not right view but stuck in "panna".

2019 Mar 30 10:03:35
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Mar 30 08:48:04
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 30 08:28:03
Johann: Samvega, yes, Nyom. If there is no pasada. Cheating is of no help but selfish motivated. Maybe Affirming the Truths of the Heart: The Buddhist Teachings on Samvega  

2019 Mar 30 08:13:03
Kong Sokdina: Vandami Bhante    :D បើចង់ អោយចេះប្រមាណ បើបាន អោយចេះគ្រប់ ជៀរាងការកើតទុក្ខនាំមកនូវសេចក្ដីខកចិត្ត(depressed mood) ។

2019 Mar 29 06:06:43
Johann: Like a path would disappear fastly in the forest, the path for many unseen if nobody steps on it.

2019 Mar 29 06:04:31
Johann: Because Uppekha isn't the highest and nobody would benefit from it.

2019 Mar 29 06:03:18
Johann: And why the even Noble ones and Arahats continue asking, answering, coss-question, giving Anumodana, critic?

2019 Mar 29 00:41:54
Johann: Once knowing good and bad, no more independency of approve of others, thanks, praise for ones sacrifices.

2019 Mar 29 00:40:05
Johann: What ever one does, one does for him/herself. Knowing this it's importand to give praise and approve to ones own skillful deeds, shame and disprove to bad.

2019 Mar 28 08:51:12
Moritz: I am leaving my computer to work without me. May all have a good Uposatha day. _/\_

2019 Mar 28 08:00:48
Moritz: Ja, gut angekommen. Noch nicht ganz umgestellt. :) Bald wieder los zum Taxifahren. _/\_

2019 Mar 28 07:45:55
Johann: Meister Moritz. Gut angekommen und wieder umgestellt?

2019 Mar 28 07:28:51
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 28 00:47:42
Johann: May all spend a meritful Sila-day and be able to recoice with their beauty of having given all being the gift of the Uposatha-Silas.

2019 Mar 26 01:18:56
Cheav Villa:  :D _/\_

2019 Mar 26 01:18:46
Cheav Villa: មិនខុសពីរឿងទៅសុំសៀវភៅសន្ទនានុក្រម នៅវ ត្ត បញ្ញា​ និង..

2019 Mar 26 01:16:15
Cheav Villa: កូណា ជារឿងដែលម្នាក់បានទទួលស្តាប់ និងធ្វើតាមតែមិនបានសំរេច តាមគោលដៅ :D _/\_

2019 Mar 25 15:28:24
Johann: Others, even if pure, is open for critic and bad assumings. Envy, jealously... on each side. So to become not susbected, needs good advices, double hard for woman to act perfect.

2019 Mar 25 15:23:21
Johann: Pappies can give good lessons when they don't fall, but the deeper, the hard training, must come from liberal mommies for daughters and liberal pappies for sons, in the world and for beyond.

2019 Mar 25 15:11:15
Cheav Villa:   _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 15:04:40
Johann: Does mommy generally don't actually love her child when not react?

2019 Mar 25 15:03:13
Johann: Mommy, mommy... but I like... ohh, they bite me... I am hungry... when do we go back?... why must we sit here... mommy!

2019 Mar 25 15:00:37
Johann: Which can be changed all the time, with feeding rightly.

2019 Mar 25 14:55:50
Cheav Villa: កូណាសង្ឃឹមថា.​ ជារឿងឧបនិស្ស័យ.​  :D _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:50:25
Johann: ...teaching and mirror.

2019 Mar 25 14:49:40
Johann: When one is stressed or busy, remember how many times one him/herself was so as well. Intention will always has it's effects, sometimes quick, sometimes even sisters, mother and child... Nyom wouldn't have become here, if there would be not long, long bounds. Watch your child. Thats always a great t

2019 Mar 25 14:40:41
Cheav Villa: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:39:48
Cheav Villa: ព្រោះកូណាមិនអាចទៅឱរ៉ាល់បានកំឡុងពេលនេះ តែអាចជួបនៅភ្នំពេញបាន តែចេតនាម្ខាងមិនចង់ជួប ទើបមិនអាចជួប

2019 Mar 25 14:38:39
Cheav Villa: កូណាគ្រាន់តែចង់បញ្ជាក់អំពីចេតនា ដែលម្នាក់មាន និងម្នាក់គ្មាន ក្នុងការ​ជួបគ្នា.ជាហេតុមិនបានជួប :D _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:37:02
Cheav Villa:    _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 13:44:16
Johann: Nyom Vithou. Foot well again?

2019 Mar 25 11:56:36
Johann: Good stories: The Healing of the Bull and Prisoners of Karma .

2019 Mar 25 11:51:20
Johann: Although monks are allowed to explain how to work oneself out, they are not given to liberate "slaves", prisoner, as this would count as thief.

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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2018, 03:10:55 AM »
Connection is not sure and the island you take as yours, drifts apart from the lands where the Buddhas teachings florish, have yiu not seen birth, oldage, death and the sickness of dependency!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2018, 03:14:38 AM »
"The is no evil one would not do, for one who speaks a deliberated lie", be quick, many are those follow and have firm faith in what the Buddha taught to avoid! You illusional island trifts away!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2018, 03:17:29 AM »
The family of the Noble Ones is beyond doing anyone a favor, beyond of trade, beyond of corruption for short lasting enjoyment and spinning around in the wheel of brith. aging sickness and death!

Come here and sit down in a human state!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2018, 03:19:38 AM »
Being avoided by those in borderland, it's hard to ever join again in helping to errect a Buddhafield!

Be quick, your island trifts away!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2018, 03:39:06 AM »
It's out of compassion, not a duty, that those who do not come back, give you a chance and stop for a short time to let others join a taste of joy that is beyond any tade, corruption, becoming, aging, sick ness and death.

When the last are gone, when you old illusional island, build on pride falls apart, where could you find firm refuge, where could you even find a places where Buddhafields are errected remembering the use of it right?

Be quick, your merits fade. It's not sure and hard to gain, a relation with the Noble Ones. Don't you see it, drunken in health, youth on life, foolish man. What you thought for real, where has it gone? Where is your fabricated Island now gone in this states of confusion, inbetween.

Don't be neglect, don't play with the Noble Ones!
You may be avoided by those living in borderland, who possible still have certain access.
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2018, 03:42:02 AM »
May you have made merits toward the Noble Ones in the past, that this food can be of nurishment now direct in front of yours.

When ever you remember a place you stored some rest of merits, take it, and sit diwn in a human state!
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Re: When one is born in outer regions
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2018, 03:51:22 AM »

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa


Maha-mangala Sutta: Schutz


Ich habe gehört, dass zu einer Zeit der Erhabene sich in Savatthi aufhielt, im Jeta-Hain, Anathapindikas Kloster. Dann näherte sich eine gewisse Devi in der spätesten Stunde der Nacht dem Erhabenen, deren außerordentliches Strahlen die Gesamtheit des Jeta-Hains überstrahlte. Bei der Ankunft, nachdem sie sich vor dem Erhabenen verbeugt hatte, stand sie an einer Seite. Als sie an einer Seite stand, wandte sie sich an ihn mit dem Vers:


Viele Devas und Menschen
machen sich Gedanken über Schutz,
Wohlergehen wünschend.
Sagt also, was ist der höchste Schutz?

[Der Buddha:]
Nicht mit Toren umgehen,
sondern mit den Weisen,
Ehre erweisen jenen, die würdig der Verehrung sind:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Das Leben in einem zivilisierten Land,
Verdienste in der Vergangenheit erwirkt zu haben,
sich in der richtigen Richtung zu bemühen:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Breites Wissen, Geschick,
wohlgemeisterte Disziplin,
wohlgesprochene Worte:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Unterstützung seiner Eltern,
Hilfestellung für die Frau und Kinder,
Gewissenhaftigkeit in der Arbeit:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Geben, Leben in Rechtschaffenheit,
Hilfestellung für die Verwandten,
Taten, die schuldlos sind:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Vermeiden, abstehen vom Bösen;
sich Fernhalten von Rauschmitteln,
wachsam über die Qualitäten des Geistes zu sein:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Respekt, Demut,
Bescheidenheit, Dankbarkeit,
das Dhamma zu passenden Gelegenheiten hören:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Geduld, Offenheit,
Besuch von Weisen,
Diskussion des Dhamma zu passenden Gelegenheiten:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Entsagung, Keuschheit,
die Edlen Wahrheiten sehen,
die Loslösung verwirklichen:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Ein Geist, der, wenn berührt
von den Wegen der Welt,
bleibt unerschüttert, sorgenlos, staublos, sicher:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.

Überall unbesiegt,
wenn in dieser Weise handelnd,
wandeln die Leute überall in Wohlergehen:
   Dies ist der höchste Schutz.



Maha-mangala Sutta: Protection

I have heard that at one time the Blessed One was staying in Savatthi at Jeta's Grove, Anathapindika's monastery. Then a certain deva, in the far extreme of the night, her extreme radiance lighting up the entirety of Jeta's Grove, approached the Blessed One. On approaching, having bowed down to the Blessed One, she stood to one side. As she stood to one side, she addressed him with a verse.

Many devas and human beings
give thought to protection,
desiring well-being.
Tell, then, the highest protection.

The Buddha:
Not consorting with fools,
consorting with the wise,
paying homage to those worthy of homage:
   This is the highest protection.

Living in a civilized land,
having made merit in the past,
directing oneself rightly:
   This is the highest protection.

Broad knowledge, skill,
well-mastered discipline,
well-spoken words:
   This is the highest protection.

Support for one's parents,
assistance to one's wife and children,
consistency in one's work:
   This is the highest protection.

Giving, living in rectitude,
assistance to one's relatives,
deeds that are blameless:
   This is the highest protection.

Avoiding, abstaining from evil;
refraining from intoxicants,
being heedful of the qualities of the mind:
   This is the highest protection.

Respect, humility,
contentment, gratitude,
hearing the Dhamma on timely occasions:
   This is the highest protection.

Patience, compliance,
seeing contemplatives,
discussing the Dhamma on timely occasions:
   This is the highest protection.

Austerity, celibacy,
seeing the Noble Truths,
realizing Unbinding:
   This is the highest protection.

A mind that, when touched
by the ways of the world,
is unshaken, sorrowless, dustless, at rest:
   This is the highest protection.

Everywhere undefeated
when acting in this way,
people go everywhere in well-being:
   This is their highest protection.




Maṃgalasuttaṃ

Evaṃ me sutaṃ: ekaṃ samayaṃ bhagavā sāvatthiyaṃ viharati jetavane anāthapiṇḍikassa ārāme. Atha kho aññatarā devatā abhikkantāya rattiyā abhikkantavaṇṇā kevalakappaṃ jetavanaṃ obhāsetvā yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami, upasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṃ abhivādetvā ekamantaṃ aṭṭhāsi, ekamantaṃ ṭhitā kho sā devatā bhagavantaṃ gāthāya ajjhabhāsi.
 
260. Bahu devā manussā ca maṅgalāni acintayuṃ,
Ākaṅkhamānā sotthānaṃ brūhi maṅgala muttamaṃ.
 
261. Asevanā ca bālānaṃ paṇḍitānañca sevanā,
Pūjā ca pūjanīyānaṃ etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
262. Patirūpadesavāso ca pubbe ca katapuññatā,
Attasammāpaṇidhi ca etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
263. Bāhusaccañca sippañca vinayo ca susikkhito,
Subhāsitā ca yā vācā etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
264. Mātāpitū upaṭṭhānaṃ puttadārassa saṅgaho,
Anākulā ca kammantā etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
265. Dānañca dhammacariyā ca ñātakānañca saṅgaho,
Anavajjāni kammāni etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
266. Ārati virati pāpā majjapānā ca saññamo,
Appamādo ca dhammesu etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
267. Gāravo ca nivāto ca santuṭṭhi ca kataññutā,
Kālena dhammasavaṇaṃ etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
268. Khantī ca sovacassatā samaṇānañca dassanaṃ,
Kālena dhammasākacchā etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
269. Tapo ca brahmacariyañca ariyasaccānadassanaṃ,
Nibbānasacchikiriyā ca etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
270. Phuṭṭhassa lokadhammehi cittaṃ yassa na kampati,
Asokaṃ virajaṃ khemaṃ etaṃ maṅgalamuttamaṃ.
 
271. Etādisāni katvāna sabbattha maparājitā,
Sabbattha sotthiṃ gacchanti taṃ tesaṃ maṅgalamuttamanti.




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« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2018, 04:03:46 AM »
Okasa vandami bhante,

What do you mean by 'human state' and 'be quick'?
Is it about renouncing ?

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Neither ONLY just for the sake of all others nor ONLY for the sake of one self, that one should tend to assist in errecting a Buddhafield!

Only if having left home, have left trade, seeing the danger in all compounded things one is capable to participate in errecting a Buddhafied and also this not for a lasting time.

May there merits left, may they be tracesd, may the love and devotion toward the Noble Ones, the drive gained in the past, the fear to fail and seeing the pain of beings, you are part of it, lead you to take this momant, the chance you have, be enough for reaching a firm stand in the domain of the Buddhas and Arahat beyond world.

"Dhammo have rakkhati dammacāriṁ"

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Leave your house behind, Deva gus , take on face, show and express you human state, you name, you body yiu have been given by you parents, sit down and bow to the Gems, the family you so long seeked.

And if ready let it be known, so that you can listen to the teachings of the Buddha and take them firm in your heart.
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« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2018, 04:14:31 AM »
For the sake of yours and all those equal not secure, be quick, the connection is not lasting, your island drifts away!

Now, even it seems to be your last and needed refuge.
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Vandami. _/\_

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Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Samacitta Sutta: Minds in Tune

I have heard that on one occasion the Blessed One was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery. And on that occasion Ven. Sāriputta was staying near Sāvatthī in the Eastern Monastery, the palace of Migāra’s mother. There Ven. Sāriputta said to the monks, “Friend monks!”

“Yes, friend,” the monks responded to him.

Ven. Sāriputta said, “Friends, I will teach you about the individual interiorly fettered and the one exteriorly fettered. Listen & pay close attention. I will speak.”

“As you say, friend,” the monks responded to him.

Ven. Sāriputta said, “And which, friends, is the individual interiorly fettered? There is the case where a monk is virtuous. He dwells restrained in accordance with the Pāṭimokkha, consummate in his behavior & sphere of activity. He trains himself, having undertaken the training rules, seeing danger in the slightest fault. On the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in a certain deva-host. On falling from there, he is a returner, one who returns to this state.[1] This is called an individual interiorly fettered, a returner, one who returns to this state.

“And which, friends, is the individual exteriorly fettered? There is the case where a monk is virtuous. He dwells restrained in accordance with the Pāṭimokkha, consummate in his behavior & sphere of activity. He trains himself, having undertaken the training rules, seeing danger in the slightest fault. He enters & remains in a certain awareness-release.[2] On the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in a certain deva-host. On falling from there, he is a non-returner, one who does not return to this state.[3] This is called an individual exteriorly fettered, a non-returner, one who does not return to this state.

“Further, there is the case where a monk is virtuous. He dwells restrained in accordance with the Pāṭimokkha, consummate in his behavior & sphere of activity. He trains himself, having undertaken the training rules, seeing danger in the slightest fault. He is one who practices for disenchantment toward, dispassion for, and the cessation of sensuality. He is one who practices for disenchantment toward, dispassion for, and the cessation of becomings. He is one who practices for the ending of craving. He is one who practices for the ending of greed. On the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in a certain deva-host. On falling from there, he is a non-returner, one who does not return to this state. This is called an individual exteriorly fettered, a non-returner, one who does not return to this state.”

Then many devas with their minds in tune [samacitta] went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, bowed down to him and stood to one side. As they were standing there, they said to the Blessed One, “Lord, Ven. Sāriputta is teaching the monks in the Eastern Monastery, the palace of Migāra’s mother, about the individual interiorly fettered and the one exteriorly fettered. The assembly is overjoyed. It would be good, lord, if the Blessed One went to Ven. Sāriputta out of kindness.”[4]

The Blessed One acquiesced through silence. Then—just as a strong man might extend his flexed arm or flex his extended arm—he disappeared from Jeta’s Grove and re-appeared in the Eastern Monastery, the palace of Migāra’s mother, right in front of Ven. Sāriputta. He sat down on a seat laid out. Ven. Sāriputta, bowing down to the Blessed One, sat to one side. As he was sitting there, the Blessed One said to him, “Just now, Sāriputta, many devas with their minds in tune went to me and, on arrival, bowed down to me and stood to one side. As they were standing there, they said to me, ‘Lord, Ven. Sāriputta is teaching the monks in the Eastern Monastery, the palace of Migāra’s mother, about the individual interiorly fettered and the one exteriorly fettered. The assembly is overjoyed. It would be good, lord, if the Blessed One went to Ven. Sāriputta out of kindness.’
“Those devas—whether they are ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, or sixty—can stand on an area the size of the tip of an awl and yet not disturb one another. If the thought should occur to you that ‘Those devas must have developed their minds there (in their heaven) so that—whether they are ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, or sixty—they can stand on an area the size of the tip of an awl and yet not disturb one another,’ it shouldn’t be seen in that way. It was right here[5] that those devas developed their minds so that—whether they are ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, or sixty—they can stand on an area the size of the tip of an awl and yet not disturb one another.

“Thus, Sāriputta, you should train yourselves: ‘We will be peaceful in our (sense) faculties, peaceful in our minds.’ That’s how you should train yourselves. When you are peaceful in your faculties, peaceful in your minds, [think,] ‘Bodily action will be peaceful, verbal action will be peaceful, mental action will be peaceful, & we will render peaceful service to our fellows in the holy life’: That’s how you should train yourselves.

“Sāriputta, those members of other sects who don’t get to hear this Dhamma discourse are lost.”
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Now, as  Nyom gus has actually taken birth in far outer-lands, living among those with grave wrong view and disregard toward the Gems, is the OP proverb true or not?

Who could have you keep away form it? Nobody could do good for you as long as not bond to liberation and clear of binds otherwise. Even if one would tell "be careful, your island is drifting away", one blinded by Mara, how could he listen and look, see?
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