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2019 Nov 19 21:17:27
Cheav Villa:  :) _/\_

2019 Nov 19 19:13:02
Moritz: Upasaka Sadhamma _/\_

2019 Nov 19 19:12:54
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2019 Nov 19 14:33:28
Johann: Ayasma Moritz

2019 Nov 19 14:18:50
Moritz: Mr. Vivek _/\_

2019 Nov 19 14:03:03
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 19 13:46:22
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2019 Nov 19 07:36:38
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 19 05:28:18
Johann: Being caught in relating, may they find the trace toward Unbond with ease and follow it eager for soon release.

2019 Nov 19 05:25:03
Johann: A meritful, joyful in Dhamma, Sila day today, those undertaking it today.

2019 Nov 18 05:41:01
Moritz: Chom reap leah, for now _/\_ May Bhante have a pleasent day. _/\_

2019 Nov 18 05:22:11
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Nov 18 05:20:39
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Nov 16 21:59:56
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 16 20:43:25
Johann: Ayasma Moritz

2019 Nov 14 22:46:22
Johann: Atma leaves the paranimmita-vasavatti deva and nimmanarati deva now to find good birth by themself, no more power left.

2019 Nov 14 22:00:48
Cheav Villa: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 14 21:39:00
Johann: Duties and Silas are words of same meaning, denoting "proper conduct and giving in ones relations where ne desires to have a good and safe stand"

2019 Nov 14 21:25:51
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 14 21:21:02
Johann: May all have good rest at the end of day, done ones duties or even a blessed done merits after that as well. My person is now off of energy and good to rest as well.

2019 Nov 14 13:43:11
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 14 10:35:51
Johann: Respecting the Devas one gains their respect and protection.

2019 Nov 14 10:34:40
Johann: Bhante. (Meawmane is a spirit from a Server in Bangkok)

2019 Nov 14 10:28:52
Khemakumara: Nyom Meawmane

2019 Nov 14 10:27:53
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2019 Nov 13 20:44:51
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 13 20:28:20
Johann: Bhante  _/\_ Nyom, Nyom

2019 Nov 13 13:19:14
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 13 11:54:18
Johann: Mahā (written), not moha (following civil transliteration of khmer, very unuseful, better following pali transliteration) "Deluded Wisdom Monastery" could be understood while "Great Wisdom Monastery"  :)

2019 Nov 13 10:22:14
Johann: mudita

2019 Nov 13 09:56:41
Cheav Villa: Kana now at Panha Moha Viheara, waiting for  Bhikkuni

2019 Nov 13 09:47:10
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 12 08:01:41
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 12 05:35:02
Khemakumara:  Sīlena nibbutiṁ yanti. Through virtue they go to Unbinding. May it be a fruit-and pathful Uposatha day.

2019 Nov 11 16:41:52
Varado: Happily indeed we live, we, for whom there is [nowhere] anything at all. We will feed on rapture like the Ābhassarā devas. Dh.v.200.

2019 Nov 11 11:40:45
Johann: Ven. Sirs  _/\_ (Kana trust that leave for some rest will not reduce Bhantes releasing joy here)

2019 Nov 11 11:13:48
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 11 11:06:19
Johann: May it be an auspicious end of the Vassa of the Noble ones, a deep Anapanasati day today, for all conducting the full moon uposatha today.

2019 Nov 11 06:00:43
Johann: " Happy/peaceful the area/custom of the Arahats, craving and wandering on having layed aside"?

2019 Nov 11 03:22:11
Johann: Of which would mean what, Lok Ta, if not wishing to use google or not given means?

2019 Nov 10 23:54:03
Varado: Sukhino vata arahanto taṇhā tesaṃ na vijjati _/\_

2019 Nov 10 19:51:07
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Ariyadhammika

2019 Nov 10 17:54:44
Johann: ភនតេ វ៉ាលិ

2019 Nov 10 14:42:47
Johann: Lok Ta  _/\_

2019 Nov 09 16:31:12
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 09 16:25:14
Johann: May Nyom and all have a safe travel

2019 Nov 09 16:03:41
Cheav Villa: Kana and kids Plan to go to Aural tomorrow, will leave Phnom Penh at 5am  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 09 15:41:39
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 09 15:37:40
Johann: Bhante Ariyadhammica, Nyom Villa

2019 Nov 09 15:35:16
Johann: Sadhu

2019 Nov 09 14:56:15
Varado: Homage to the Noble Sangha _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 09 14:55:15
Varado: Blessed is the arising of Buddhas. Blessed is the explaining of the true teaching. Blessed is concord in the community of bhikkhus. Of those in concord, blessed is their practice of austerity.

2019 Nov 09 14:53:06
Johann: Ven Grandfather, Nyom Annaleana,

2019 Nov 09 01:57:47
Moritz: Vandami, Bhante Varado _/\_

2019 Nov 09 01:43:05
Varado: Pūjā ca pūjanīyānaṃ

2019 Nov 09 00:44:14
Johann: Worthy those on path or reached the aim

2019 Nov 08 22:36:29
Varado: Homage to those elder bhikkhus of long-standing who have long gone forth, the fathers and leaders of the Sangha. _/\_

2019 Nov 08 20:16:23
Johann: May the Venerables allow my persons leave, running out of battery.  _/\_

2019 Nov 08 20:09:51
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu!

2019 Nov 08 20:09:14
Varado: Homage to Good Friends. For this is the entire holy life. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 08 20:07:04
Varado: Homage to the Good Friends. For this is the entire holy life. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 08 19:29:09
Varado: Thanks for summary. I send article on milk. Anything else?

2019 Nov 08 18:53:24
Varado: Also greed, hatred, and delusion. Tīni akusalamūlāni: lobho akusalamūlaṃ doso akusalamūlaṃ moho akusalamūlaṃ (D.3.214).

2019 Nov 08 18:36:34
Johann: So does it, so does it, for Bhikkhus, layman, laywoman as well. And what is the root of stinginess? Ingratitude (wrong view).

2019 Nov 08 18:30:56
Varado: Possessing five qualities, a bhikkhuni is deposited in hell as if brought there. What five? She is miserly with dwellings, families, gains, praise, and the Dhamma (A.3.139). Pañcahi bhikkhave dhammehi samannāgatā bhikkhunī yathābhataṃ nikkhittā evaṃ niraye: katamehi pañcahi: Āvāsamaccha

2019 Nov 08 18:23:39
Varado: Macchariya for lodgings, maybe?

2019 Nov 08 18:01:17
Johann: Kana saw that Bhikkhunis has even a rule in regard of macchariya, for Vineyya in their Vinaya.

2019 Nov 08 17:58:14
Johann: So does it dear Ven. Grandfather, so does it. Amacchariya is the domain of the Noble Ones, beginning by the stream to the complete of stinginess's root.

2019 Nov 08 17:51:33
Varado: Having eliminated the stain of stinginess together with its origin, they are beyond criticism.

2019 Nov 08 17:35:15
Johann: ...and "Vineyya maccheramalaṁ samūlaṁ aninditā"

2019 Nov 08 17:29:21
Johann: These Devas and Brahmas...  :) mudita

2019 Nov 08 16:53:41
Varado: May the Buddha bless you. May the Dhamma shine on you. May Wat Ayum be a refuge to many. For any possible help with questions, please email. My pleasure.

2019 Nov 08 13:55:57
Johann: ..."This shows that the Buddha would not be troubled by those who become angry and resentful, but by those who are strongly opinionated and who relinquish their views reluctantly...."

2019 Nov 08 09:27:01
Johann: Ven. Bhantes

2019 Nov 08 09:23:11
Khemakumara:   _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Ariyadhammika

2019 Nov 08 06:26:12
Johann: It was four days after closing that decreased in last instance

2019 Nov 08 06:15:13
Moritz: The bot traffic is not decreasing.

2019 Nov 08 06:15:10
Johann: Ayasma Moritz

2019 Nov 08 06:14:53
Moritz: (was logged in long time before, but not at PC)

2019 Nov 08 06:14:52
Johann: Ayasama Moritz

2019 Nov 08 06:14:06
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 08 02:08:55
Moritz: Sadhu _/\_ May Bhante bear and overcome all sickness well _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 08 02:05:42
Khemakumara: Khantı paramaṁ tapo tītikkhā. Patient forbearance is the highest austerity

2019 Nov 08 02:01:46
Khemakumara: lack of energy because of sickness of the body (boils) Nyom Moritz

2019 Nov 08 01:53:48
Khemakumara: Meister Moritz

2019 Nov 08 01:52:12
Moritz: Hoping Bhante is well _/\_

2019 Nov 08 01:51:55
Moritz: Vandami Bhante (Khemakumara) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 20:02:22
Johann: enery, battery saysfinish for now... may there be food for liberation be found and got touched by many independently.

2019 Nov 07 20:00:16
Johann: Every being, even without capacity to gain higher, is worthy of metta, worthy to be not harmed in existance, worthy to help in times of needing the four paccayas, Ven. Grandfather.

2019 Nov 07 19:37:39
Visitor: Let us treat those with Buddhanature with the respect appropriate to future Buddhas.

2019 Nov 07 19:01:03
Johann: Maybe an inspirig topic on the matter How should I express Mudita or Joy for all beings? for all having access (upanissaya).

2019 Nov 07 18:56:59
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu. That's how mudita is good understood in relation with "Buddhanature"

2019 Nov 07 18:54:52
Visitor: Homage to all those with Buddhanature. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 18:53:59
Visitor:  Homage to all the Buddhas.  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 18:28:47
Johann: Dear lok ta Visitor

2019 Nov 07 17:29:02
Cheav Villa:  _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 17:24:12
Johann: Don't worry either, yet perfect if visiting the Nuns. Mudita

2019 Nov 07 17:21:15
Cheav Villa: About the medicin called loṇasociraka, Kana will take time to go to Visit Wat Panha to ask her for detail  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Nov 07 17:21:05
Johann: Cetana counts, the own one, Nyom.

2019 Nov 07 17:18:42
Johann: May Nyom not worry to much about it. My person guesses Nyom Chanroth might have lot of joy in the idea of planting. While Cacaco is fine, yet not a need or request, it's something that can be gained in shops.

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Author Topic: This is a royal road to hell.  (Read 3063 times)

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Re: This is a royal road to hell.
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2019, 05:52:28 PM »
_/\_ _/\_ _/\_

៣. មនុស្សគេយកសំដី ដំរីគេយកភ្លុក ។
មនុស្សគេយកសម្តី ពាក្យចាស់លោកសំដៅ យកពាក្យសំដីប្រកបដោយគតិបណ្ឌិត ពាក្យសច្ចៈ ជាដើម ។
ដំរីគេយកភ្លុក  ពាក្យចាស់លោកពោលថា មួយតួខ្លួនដំរី គ្មានកន្លែងត្រង់ណា មានតំលៃស្មើនឹងភ្លុកវាទេ ។ ដោយសារយ៉ាងនេះហើយបានជា
ព្រានប្រម៉ាញ់ស្វែងរកដំរីណាដែលមានភ្លុកធំល្អ ។

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3. Humans take on (work with) saying, elephants take on tusk.

"People take on sayings": old word Venerables used for aims, words of sayings objected to become wise, words leaded by truth.

"Elephants take n tusk", the old Venerables told that not part of the elephants body there is straight and even. When the tusk is straighten out it's said: Hunters are after elephants with good and big tusk.


* Johann : transl. draft added.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2019, 01:23:46 PM by Johann »

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Re: This is a royal road to hell.
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2019, 12:52:23 PM »
Sadhu Nyon Cheav Villa (nearly had overseen it, and also to translate)

On the topic, since some people might think that wise advocate silence, which is totally not the case:

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

The story of the follower of Non-Buddhist Doctrines   

While residing at the Jetavana monastery, the Buddha uttered Verses (268) and (269) of this book, with reference to some non-Buddhist ascetics.

To those who offered them food or other things, those ascetics would say words of blessing. They would say, "May you be free from danger, may you prosper and get rich, may you live long," etc. At that time, the followers of the Buddha did not say anything after receiving something from their lay-disciples. This was because during the first twenty years after the Buddha's attainment of Buddhahood they were instructed to remain silent on receiving offerings. Since the followers of the Buddha were silent when ascetics of other doctrines were saying things which were pleasing to their disciples, people began to compare the two groups.

When the Buddha heard about this, he permitted the bhikkhus to say words of blessing to their disciples after receiving offerings. As a result of that, more and more people invited the followers of the Buddha for alms. Then, the ascetics of other doctrines remarked with disdain: "We adhere to the practice of the muni and keep silent, whereas the followers of Samana Gotama go about talking exuberantly in the eating places." On hearing those disparaging remarks, the Buddha said, "Bhikkhus! There are some who keep silent because they are ignorant and timid, and some who keep silent because they do not want to share their profound knowledge with others. Only one who has overcome evil is to be called a muni."

Then the Buddha spoke in verse as follows:

Verse 268 Not by silence does one become a muni, if one is dull and ignorant. Like one holding a pair of scales, the wise one takes what is good and rejects what is evil.

Verse 269 For this reason he is a muni. He who understands both internal and external aggregates is also, for that reason, called a muni.

Generally two dwellings are adviced: "noble silence" (3. Jhana) or talk on Dhamma. So especially for one not having gained path, but also the customs of the Arahats, is engaging in Dhamma talks, in the ten kusala topics.
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Re: This is a royal road to hell.
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2019, 01:11:52 PM »
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Re: This is a royal road to hell.
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2019, 08:16:10 PM »
Are there any more resources for Dhamma talks in situations like this one?

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Re: This is a royal road to hell.
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2019, 10:20:29 PM »
Are there any more resources for Dhamma talks in situations like this one?

I don't know about any Dhamma talks now.

But I still have not understood most of the Khmer sayings above.

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៣. មនុស្សគេយកសំដី ដំរីគេយកភ្លុក ។
មនុស្សគេយកសម្តី ពាក្យចាស់លោកសំដៅ យកពាក្យសំដីប្រកបដោយគតិបណ្ឌិត ពាក្យសច្ចៈ ជាដើម ។
ដំរីគេយកភ្លុក  ពាក្យចាស់លោកពោលថា មួយតួខ្លួនដំរី គ្មានកន្លែងត្រង់ណា មានតំលៃស្មើនឹងភ្លុកវាទេ ។ ដោយសារយ៉ាងនេះហើយបានជា
ព្រានប្រម៉ាញ់ស្វែងរកដំរីណាដែលមានភ្លុកធំល្អ ។

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3. Humans take on (work with) saying, elephants take on tusk.

"People take on sayings": old word Venerables used for aims, words of sayings objected to become wise, words leaded by truth.

"Elephants take n tusk", the old Venerables told that not part of the elephants body there is straight and even. When the tusk is straighten out it's said: Hunters are after elephants with good and big tusk.


* Johann : transl. draft added.

I do not understand the meaning here. For me it sounds maybe like meaning: Humans just talk (with their mouths, uselessly). Elephants work (with their tusks), doing something useful.

But maybe I have misunderstood this. It also does not sound appealing to have a "straight" tusk and thus becoming the prey of hunters.

I like this one:
៤. រនាបបាក់យករនាបជួស សម្តីហួសរកអ្វីជួសគ្មាន ។
4. Trellis broken, lift trellis to renew, sayings beyond repairing do not exist.

(A trellis like such here ? But not so important, whatever kind of structure, just some word I did not know.)

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Re: This is a royal road to hell.
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2019, 06:13:10 AM »
Good, right, straight speech: such a person is valued, "expensive" and of course often put under a yoke, hunted after, therefore. People like the near and association with such a person and do all to catch him, of course. Surely someone without skills is not desired. (Maybe hunter here was to much understood as "killer" by Nyom Moritz .  They had been hunted to become someone valued worker, the elephants with good tusk)

Surely there is much worldly danger if good in things beloved by people. Not at least conceit if a speaker like a poet.

Which of the proverbs else is not clear?
« Last Edit: September 17, 2019, 06:28:02 AM by Johann »
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Re: This is a royal road to hell.
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2019, 06:16:42 AM »
Are there any more resources for Dhamma talks in situations like this one?

There are surely many, as well as Suttas and stories, Nyom Hosking . Which specifically "situation" did he thought of.
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Re: This is a royal road to hell.
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2019, 06:48:49 AM »
In relation to the skill in speech, how ever, it can easy be different in objectives and if skilled one can fall fast onto the road to hell again, get caught (in this regard it's right of not desiring being hunted after by common people).

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Ukkacita Sutta: Bombast

“Monks, there are these two assemblies. Which two? The assembly trained in bombast and not in cross-questioning, and the assembly trained in cross-questioning and not in bombast.

“And which is the assembly trained in bombast and not in cross-questioning?

“There is the case where in any assembly when the discourses of the Tathagata — deep, deep in their meaning, transcendent, connected with emptiness — are recited, the monks don't listen, don't lend ear, don't set their hearts on knowing them; don't regard them as worth grasping or mastering. But when discourses that are literary works — the works of poets, artful in sound, artful in expression, the work of outsiders, words of disciples — are recited, they listen, they lend ear, they set their hearts on knowing them; they regard them as worth grasping & mastering. Yet when they have mastered that Dhamma, they don't cross-question one another about it, don't dissect: 'How is this? What is the meaning of this?' They don't make open what isn't open, don't make plain what isn't plain, don't dispel doubt on its various doubtful points. This is called an assembly trained in bombast, not in cross-questioning.

“And which is the assembly trained in cross-questioning and not in bombast?

“There is the case where in any assembly when discourses that are literary works — the works of poets, artful in sound, artful in rhetoric, the work of outsiders, words of disciples — are recited, the monks don't listen, don't lend ear, don't set their hearts on knowing them; don't regard them as worth grasping or mastering. But when the discourses of the Tathagata — deep, deep in their meaning, transcendent, connected with emptiness — are recited, they listen, they lend ear, they set their hearts on knowing them; they regard them as worth grasping & mastering. And when they have mastered that Dhamma, they cross-question one another about it and dissect it: 'How is this? What is the meaning of this?' They make open what isn't open, make plain what isn't plain, dispel doubt on its various doubtful points. This is called an assembly trained in cross-questioning and not in bombast.”

[២៩២] ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បរិស័ទនេះ មាន ២ ពួក។ បរិស័ទ ២ ពួក តើដូចម្ដេច។ គឺបរិស័ទសិក្សាខុសទំនង មិនសិក្សាដោយការសាកសួរ​ ១ បរិស័ទសិក្សាដោយការសាកសួរ មិនសិក្សាខុសទំនង ១។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បរិស័ទសិក្សាខុសទំនង មិនសិក្សាដោយការ​សាកសួរ តើដូចម្ដេច។​ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ភិក្ខុក្នុងសាសនានេះ ពួកសូត្រណា ដែលជា​ភាសិត របស់តថាគត ដ៏ជ្រាលជ្រៅ មានអត្ថដ៏ជ្រាលជ្រៅ ជាលោកុត្តរៈ ប្រកបដោយសុញ្ញតធម៌ កាល​បើពួកសូត្រនោះ ដែលគេកំពុងសំដែង ក៏មិនប្រុងស្ដាប់ មិនផ្ទៀងត្រចៀកស្ដាប់​ មិន​ទប់​ចិត្ត ដែលរាយមាយ ទាំងមិនសំគាល់ថា គួររៀន គួរសិក្សាធម៌ទាំងនោះឡើយ ពួកសូត្រណា ដែល​អ្នក​ប្រាជ្ញ បានតែងទុកជាពាក្យកាព្យ មានអក្ខរវិចិត្ត មានព្យពា្ជនវិចិត្ត ជាសូត្រខាងក្រៅ ជា​សាវក​ភាសិត កាលបើសូត្រទាំងនោះ ដែលគេកំពុងសំដែង ក៏ប្រុងស្ដាប់ ផ្ទៀងត្រចៀកស្ដាប់ ទប់ចិត្ត ដែល​រាយមាយ ទាំងសំគាល់ថា គួររៀន គួរសិក្សាធម៌ទាំងនោះផង ភិក្ខុទាំងនោះ លុះ​សិក្សា​ធម៌​នោះ​ហើយ មិនបានសាកសួរគ្នាទៅវិញទៅមក មិនរើជម្រះផងថា ព្យពា្ជនៈនេះ ដូចម្តេច អត្ថរបស់​ភាសិតនេះ ដូចម្ដេច​ ភិក្ខុទាំងនោះ មិនបានបើករបស់ ដែលកំបាំងផង មិនបាន​ធ្វើ​របស់ដែលជ្រៅ ឲ្យរាក់ផង មិនបន្ទោបង់សេចក្ដីសង្ស័យ ក្នុងធម៌ទាំងឡាយ ដែលជាហេតុគួរឲ្យ​សង្ស័យ​ជាច្រើន​ស្ថានផង ក្នុងបរិស័ទណា ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បរិស័ទនេះ ហៅថា បរិស័ទសិក្សាខុសទំនង មិន​សិក្សាដោយការសាកសួរឡើយ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ចុះបរិស័ទសិក្សា ដោយការសាកសួរ មិន​សិក្សា​ខុសទំនង តើដូចម្ដេច។​ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ ពួកភិក្ខុក្នុងសាសនានេះ ពួកសូត្រណា ដែលអ្នកប្រាជ្ញ តែងជាពាក្យកាព្យ មានអក្ខរវិចិត្ត មានព្យពា្ជនវិចិត្ត ជារបស់ខាងក្រៅ ជា​សាវកភាសិត កាលបើសូត្រទាំងនោះ ដែលគេកំពុង​សំដែង ក៏មិនប្រុងស្ដាប់ មិនផ្ទៀងត្រចៀក​ស្ដាប់​ មិនទប់ចិត្តរាយមាយ ទាំងមិនសំគាល់ថា គួរ​រៀន គួរសិក្សា​ធម៌ទាំងនោះដែរ ឯពួកសូត្រណា ដែលជាភាសិតរបស់តថាគត ដ៏ជ្រាលជ្រៅ មានអត្ថដ៏ជ្រាលជ្រៅ ជាលោកុត្តរៈ ប្រកបដោយសុញ្ញតធម៌ កាលបើសូត្រទាំងនោះ ដែលគេកំពុង​សំដែង ក៏ប្រុងស្ដាប់ ផ្ទៀង​ត្រចៀក​ស្ដាប់ ទប់ចិត្តរាយមាយ ទាំងសំគាល់ថា គួររៀន គួរសិក្សាធម៌ទាំងនោះដែរ លុះ​ភិក្ខុ​ទាំង​នោះ សិក្សាធម៌នោះហើយ សាកសួរគ្នាទៅ​វិញទៅមក រើជម្រះថា ព្យពា្ជនៈនេះ ដូចម្តេច អត្ថ​របស់ភាសិតនេះ ដូចម្ដេច​ ភិក្ខុទាំងនោះ បើករបស់ដែលកំបាំងផង ធ្វើរបស់ដែលជ្រៅ ​ឲ្យ​រាក់​ផង បន្ទោបង់សេចក្ដីសង្ស័យ ក្នុងធម៌​ទាំងឡាយ ដែលជាហេតុគួរឲ្យសង្ស័យជាច្រើនស្ថានបានផង ក្នុងបរិស័ទណា ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំង​ឡាយ បរិស័ទនេះ ហៅថា បរិស័ទ សិក្សាដោយការសាកសួរ មិនសិក្សាខុសទំនងឡើយ។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុទាំងឡាយ បរិស័ទ មាន ២​ពួកនេះឯង។ ម្នាលភិក្ខុ​ទាំង​ឡាយ បណ្ដាបរិស័ទពីរពួក​នេះ បរិស័ទដែលសិក្សា ដោយការសាកសួរ មិន​សិក្សា​ខុស​ទំនងនុ៎ះ ទើបប្រសើរ។

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