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2019 Jun 17 10:19:29
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2019 Jun 17 06:34:44
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2019 Jun 17 03:56:38
Cheav Villa: សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 17 00:46:14
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2019 Jun 15 17:53:43
Cheav Villa: កូណាព្រះអង្គទាំងអស់គ្នាសុខទុក្ខធម្មតា ទាំងសុខភាពឈឺ ជា មិនទៀងទាត់  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ ស្រីមុខក្រញ៉ូវ គាត់មានសុខភាពល្អជា

2019 Jun 15 13:03:21
Johann: All health?

2019 Jun 15 13:02:56
Johann: Nyom Muk-kamau?

2019 Jun 15 13:01:36
Johann: And own well-being, family?

2019 Jun 15 12:48:22
Johann: Maybe all busy like most at this times.

2019 Jun 15 12:44:14
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2019 Jun 15 12:42:16
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 15 04:21:08
Johann: Nyom Villa. All fine? Nyoms fellows, like Nyom Buddhi... havn't been seen since longer. All fine with friends and family?

2019 Jun 10 04:05:23
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 10 01:47:04
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu

2019 Jun 10 01:28:53
Khemakumara: May all have a fruitful waxing moon Uposatha!

2019 Jun 10 01:26:44
Khemakumara: Silena sugatiṁ yanti. Through virtue they go to a good destination.  Silena bhoga-sampadā.  Through virtue is wealth attained.  Silena nibbutiṁ yanti. Through virtue they go to Unbinding.  Tasmā silaṁ visodhaye. Therefore we should purify our virtue.

2019 Jun 06 14:52:24
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ kana,  Bhante. The wound heals fast and good.

2019 Jun 06 13:46:02
Johann: Bhante is fine, at least better?

2019 Jun 05 11:53:33
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 05 05:19:35
Johann: "N'atthi santi param sukham", there is no peace equal the hail of release

2019 Jun 04 10:25:51
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Jun 04 05:13:11
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 02 12:03:42
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 02 00:29:09
Johann: May all enjoy the bliss of the fruitful observing of the Uposatha

2019 May 31 14:40:02
Cheav Villa: សាធុ​ សាធុ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 31 13:47:09
Johann: Sadhu and Anumodana Nyom.

2019 May 31 12:40:14
Cheav Villa: សូមអោយព្រះអង្គឆាប់ជាសះស្បើយ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 31 12:39:05
Cheav Villa: ព្រះអង្គKhemakumara ត្រូវបានពុទ្ធបរិស័ទនិមន្តទៅគ្លីនីកនៅជិតវត្តកាលពីម៉ោង​2 និងបានវះកាត់ព្យាបាល រួចត្រឡប់ទៅវត្ត

2019 May 31 12:36:20
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំ​ ព្រះ​អង្គ​ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 29 09:03:01
Johann: Had overseen Bhante here. Bhante Ariyadhammika  _/\_

2019 May 29 02:19:33
Khemakumara: Bhante Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 28 04:18:48
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 27 10:03:55
Johann: Much in German, Nyom, currently. Atma will try to translate as much as possible, step by step.

2019 May 26 03:04:21
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 26 03:04:06
Cheav Villa: សាធុ​

2019 May 26 01:02:17
Johann: Sadhu

2019 May 26 00:44:22
Khemakumara: May all have a meritful Uposatha day. Meeting some good friends (kalyanamitta) and som(e) sil(a) សំម សីល!

2019 May 24 14:13:29
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 May 24 13:28:52
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 24 05:23:33
Johann: Venerable

2019 May 24 05:22:57
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Johann

2019 May 24 02:08:29
Johann: Nyom Moritz, Nyom Villa.

2019 May 24 01:55:56
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 24 01:54:14
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2019 May 24 01:49:43
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 24 01:06:04
Johann: Venerable Ariyadhammika  _/\_

2019 May 20 04:14:26
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 20 01:31:27
Johann:  _/\_ Bhante Indannano

2019 May 19 11:28:39
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 May 19 11:27:48
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 18 23:55:08
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 18 10:34:49
amanaki: Thank you Johann  _/\_

2019 May 18 09:59:33
Johann: Nyom Amanaki. Mudita that you may have possible found what searched for on a special day.

2019 May 18 09:24:56
Maria:  _/\_

2019 May 18 09:24:35
Maria: werter Bhante!

2019 May 18 09:22:43
Johann: Nyom Mizi

2019 May 18 09:21:31
Johann: Nyom Sophorn, Nyom Villa... may all here but also there rejoice in own and others goodness.

2019 May 18 05:03:47
Cheav Villa: សាធុ​សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 18 02:16:49
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 14 07:51:30
Vithou:  _/\_

2019 May 14 05:40:54
Johann: As long as not using telefon while riding. Sokh chomreoun, Nyom.

2019 May 13 18:38:46
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ (sitting in Taxi)

2019 May 12 15:44:32
Johann: But better ask Nyom Chanroth, since Atma does not walk that far these days.

2019 May 12 15:04:01
Johann: not teally, Nyom Vithou. Still less water in the streams here. Some still dry. Needs a while down from the mountains and not that much rain yet.

2019 May 12 14:54:37
Vithou: how is the road Bhante? Is it float at the mountain leg?

2019 May 12 14:51:59
Vithou:   _/\_

2019 May 12 14:40:43
Johann: Nyom Vithou. Nothing special. Yes, rain is present every afternoon since some days.

2019 May 12 14:38:33
Vithou: Bhante, how is everything at Asrum? Is it raining everyday?

2019 May 12 07:05:30
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 12 03:58:19
Johann: a joyful day in merits on this Sila-day

2019 May 11 17:04:10
Cheav Villa:  :) _/\_

2019 May 11 16:16:56
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2019 May 11 05:35:39
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 11 00:52:44
Johann: an meritful Uposatha, those keeping it today

2019 May 10 17:14:43
Moritz: Chom reap leah, I am going to work. _/\_

2019 May 10 17:09:07
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 May 10 17:07:14
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 10 16:19:14
Moritz: Chom reap sour, bong Villa _/\_

2019 May 07 19:12:10
Johann: Nyom Vithou. Just some hours ago, thought of him.

2019 May 05 04:26:53
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2019 May 04 11:41:08
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 04 10:27:38
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 May 03 10:08:09
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2019 May 03 01:17:53
Johann: A meritful new moon Uposatha those celebrating it today.

2019 May 03 01:16:05
Johann: Talk box is buggy and lines love to jump. Better not editing.

2019 May 03 01:14:19
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2019 May 02 15:15:58
Cheav Villa:   <.I.> _/\_

2019 May 02 15:15:17
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Cheav Villa: Mudita  :) _/\_

2019 May 02 13:47:17
Moritz: Anumodana puñña kusala! _/\_

2019 May 01 14:49:38
Johann: Now some monks are so close to many, that they can be visited even by feet.

2019 May 01 06:27:25
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2019 May 01 06:22:36
Cheav Villa: Get lost in the jungle of Phnom Penh from 2pm till 6pm

2019 May 01 05:40:26
Cheav Villa: Bhante Khemakumara arrived at Wat Sophea Khun in late evening  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

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2019 Apr 29 03:07:40
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Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« on: October 06, 2018, 06:45:58 AM »
from the Talk box today:

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Bhante, is it permitted to ask questions or post things on behalf of other/future people ?

Quote from: Johann
There is nothing not permitted. Merits or demerits are the actors responsibility. One is full in charge of ones action in this Domain here, wanderer gus.

Such can be total kusala and total akusala or simply defuse. Set your mind right and be mindful, that nothing will be of harm for yourself and others.

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Okasa, happy to hear such things reagarding kamma. Many monks I have met don't directly speak about kamma because they have been tired after practicing some years and now bit relaxed.

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If in a borderland it's better to simply serve and support the Sangha. It's not smart to seek for other householders to nurish on traced imperfections of something required to uphold, wanderer gus.

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Again, a latin proverb mit be useful: Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi , patisota is always harmful if not just one own defilements or having a proper stand to help. Sota is the virtue required to resist in borderlands.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

One   should not make an effort everywhere,
   should not be another's hireling,
   should not live dependent on another,
   should not go about
      as a trader in the Dhamma.

It's good to read the sutta often. The King can be also an inwardly.

It's total no problem to act or ask on behave of Noble Ones, honest, serious, those not intetested for or against the world, not interested in fighting something outwardly or seeking of justice or revange.

If acting on behave, asking on behave of others who might not be able to do so directly or would appear as acting improper, to help, assist, serve for Noble purpose is highly meritious.

Just be sure that not acting as a hireling or trader.

Althought a certain monk would not act in defeat or personal wishing to punish such a "ugly" person, the kamma one accumulates either as King or as someone working like a agent or even double agent for wordily gain, is not a lite and very harmful for one.

Be always honest and open, what ever problem their might be, for such a person is protected by the Devas and the Gems while those impure acting are sure to get the wage of foolish deeds very quick. Don't hide, or try to hide behind something you aren't.

That counts as well for Bhikkhus and recluse who walk with hidden face in householder domains. Total ugly and not a little to inspire faith or make it firm.

Dogs bit only those who show signs of fear or ill-will. Fear has a reason. If ones faith in kamma is really firm, ones virtue has no faults and that is why a virtuous person can approach ever kind of gathering, housholders, noble soldiers, Brahmans, Devas, Samanas, Bhikkhus... upright, self-confident.

Are there certain doubts left, wanderer gus ? Is it understandable and can the reasons and aims of this advices be seen?

Also in regard of possible skilful or unskilful prompted (deliberately) or unprompted (reacting) causes and their related effects, or if made defuse or based on strong diṭṭha (samma or miccha, or beyond)?

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Re: Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2018, 06:53:15 AM »
There are a lot of encouragements to help Bhikkhus and those worthy to serve: organise them access, helping to deliver, act as messenger...

Such it not only proper, a duty, if in a certain formal relation, but a very fruitful field of merits.

(Western/modern teachers, the Niganthas/Jains, call it mostly unskilful and modern/western people find service and running for worthy purpose and worthy people also as "not to do", but simply to cut of the connection between borderlands and Noble Domain. So be careful = watch the frames of references, your, not try to judge others.)
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Re: Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2018, 07:46:34 AM »
Areas and Topics specially dedicated for acting and asking on behave of others (inviting to join merits...)



At least, not to forget, the whole acting here, wether as lay person, visitor, member, or as novice, Samana, Bhikkhu, all actions are wisely performed as a service for the field worthy of gifts, the Noble Sangha and it's conventional representative, the Savaka Sangha of Bhikkhus of the eight directions and their good following.

In specific cases, one might just open a topic and it would be placed as proper as possible also if maybe "wrong" placed.

Of cource the Ven. Members of the Sangha of the eight directions are invited and given to make use of all possibilities without the need of doubt wether it is given or not.

Also their following and interested people.

Look invitations on many places here.

"There is nothing good if not done by oneself"
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Re: Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2018, 08:04:28 AM »
Sila first! If having or observing silas, then what ever giving will fill up the tank full.

If wishing to make just Dāna or service in frames of giving without duty for it, and up to certain gain this or that, that is fine as well, but consider that there are many, many places which are of "need" of such and living on performing generosity in exchange and you may easier gain desired there, what ever seeked after in the realms of the worlds.
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Re: Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2018, 09:13:58 AM »
Okasa bhante,

Actually what I meant by "on behalf of future/other people" is not about becoming an agent of someone but is something like below.

Eg:
Asking a question that I currently don't need but for the benefit of future new comers or other members.
Posting something to make the forum helpful or enthusiastic to others.
...etc.

Vandami Bhante.

*  Bhante alaways suspect me.  :)

Sila first! If having or observing silas, then what ever giving will fill up the tank full.

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Re: Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2018, 10:54:48 AM »
* Johann : Everybody (would/will) suspect you, as long wanderer gus runs around in disguise, acts childish and is not able to introduce and show himself in proper ways, stay either an object to produce bad kamma for others or produces himself in this way and in both cases harms both, himself and others to give space for wrong views to grow.

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Asking a question that I currently don't need but for the benefit of future new comers or other members.
Posting something to make the forum helpful or enthusiastic to others.

As told, what ever Dana and preperation for others to be able to access Noble Domain is good. The more based on Silas, the more a sacrify upwardly and not so much downwardly or for equal, the better. If he likes to prepare the forum that it is better accessable for those speaking Sinhalese, such would be a great service. It thinking to post not given what everybody can google or things not given and in householder domain, better not.

What ever Wanderer Gus feels inspired.

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Generally, for one in practice, it's better to make services ("where can I help, what can I do") than to enjoy certain freedom one does not really have now and forgetting ones duties. (See topics like: FAQ über sangham.net (für Haushälter) )

(Generaly see also topics like: Association with pets - Associated rebith? , Sozialisieren, mit wem und warum | Socialize with who, why | ធ្វើសង្គមមូបនីយកម្ម , Association with the Devas - associated Rebirth . And the five proper times/objects of gifts: best orientation for everyone till Arahatahood on where, fro whom and when to make gifts.)
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Re: Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2018, 11:05:03 AM »
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Asking a question that I currently don't need but for the benefit of future new comers or other members.

Wanderer gus , again in detail on subject on this:

That is actually costume, althought western modern find it childish.

Even Arahat cross-question each others, to increase their own skills and to perform a borderland for others.

Yes, totally. It was spoken about the matter some times ago and maybe my person can link the topic.

But, How ever, in certain areas, for medias, or to win costumers, such has become like actors livelihood. There are monks and lay teacher who train artificial shows to earn a living. Such is ugly and entertainer-livelihood, often leading to low realms.


Addition:

It has been discussed in Unzufriedenheit mit dem Heiligen Leben (Schüler, Lehrerpflichten & Mitgefühl) in relation with duties of disciple and teacher.

It's not good when one performs such question and answer session, thinking "I am smart and will help", especially when not really smart and not really a giver yet. Better here to see it as a training for oneself.

Also in cases when asking, and others tell things one might know, one should not think "why does he tell me that, I know. Does he think I am a fool?", like it happens here also. Sometimes things are said that others might find borderlands. Does wanderer gus see and understand this aspect here?

Nurishing by questiin and answer sessions keeps not only vital but alive. If people think that they could google if wishing to understand, if people at large think that they can come from outer lands to Noble Domain without Nissaya and going into dependency, without Sangha, then this Dhamma-Vinaya has died. The Dhamma-gotschi has been gone and no more field of merits to access over this borderlands is a avaliable in this world.
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Re: Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2018, 11:32:39 AM »
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Asking a question that I currently don't need but for the benefit of future new comers or other members.
Even Arahat cross-question each others, to increase their own skills and to perform a borderland for others.
Yes, totally.

That was what I did in some of my posts.
But there is a disadvantage of it.
I had to get called as patriot, metta trader, household-domain-questioner, asura,  ..etc.

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Re: Is it allowed, welcome to ask on behave of others?
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2018, 11:43:45 AM »
Oh you poor mistreaded wanderer... you break the heart of everyone  ^-^

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Also in cases when asking, and others tell things one might know, one should not think "why does he tell me that, I know. Does he think I am a fool?", like it happens here also. Sometimes things are said that others might find borderlands. Does wanderer gus see and understand this aspect here?

How should my person ever write as fast his mind changes from kusala to akusala to defused...
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