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2019 Jun 15 04:21:08
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2019 Jun 10 04:05:23
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2019 Jun 10 01:47:04
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2019 Jun 10 01:28:53
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2019 Jun 10 01:26:44
Khemakumara: Silena sugatiṁ yanti. Through virtue they go to a good destination.  Silena bhoga-sampadā.  Through virtue is wealth attained.  Silena nibbutiṁ yanti. Through virtue they go to Unbinding.  Tasmā silaṁ visodhaye. Therefore we should purify our virtue.

2019 Jun 06 14:52:24
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2019 Jun 06 13:46:02
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2019 Jun 05 11:53:33
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2019 Jun 05 05:19:35
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2019 Jun 04 10:25:51
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2019 Jun 04 05:13:11
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2019 Jun 02 12:03:42
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2019 Jun 02 00:29:09
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2019 May 31 14:40:02
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2019 May 31 13:47:09
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2019 May 31 12:40:14
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2019 May 29 09:03:01
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2019 May 28 04:18:48
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2019 May 27 10:03:55
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2019 May 26 03:04:21
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2019 May 26 03:04:06
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2019 May 26 01:02:17
Johann: Sadhu

2019 May 26 00:44:22
Khemakumara: May all have a meritful Uposatha day. Meeting some good friends (kalyanamitta) and som(e) sil(a) សំម សីល!

2019 May 24 14:13:29
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2019 May 24 13:28:52
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2019 May 24 05:23:33
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2019 May 24 05:22:57
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2019 May 24 02:08:29
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2019 May 24 01:55:56
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2019 May 24 01:54:14
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2019 May 24 01:49:43
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2019 May 24 01:06:04
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2019 May 20 04:14:26
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2019 May 20 01:31:27
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2019 May 19 11:27:48
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2019 May 18 23:55:08
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 18 10:34:49
amanaki: Thank you Johann  _/\_

2019 May 18 09:59:33
Johann: Nyom Amanaki. Mudita that you may have possible found what searched for on a special day.

2019 May 18 09:24:56
Maria:  _/\_

2019 May 18 09:24:35
Maria: werter Bhante!

2019 May 18 09:22:43
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2019 May 18 09:21:31
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2019 May 18 05:03:47
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2019 May 18 02:16:49
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2019 May 14 07:51:30
Vithou:  _/\_

2019 May 14 05:40:54
Johann: As long as not using telefon while riding. Sokh chomreoun, Nyom.

2019 May 13 18:38:46
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ (sitting in Taxi)

2019 May 12 15:44:32
Johann: But better ask Nyom Chanroth, since Atma does not walk that far these days.

2019 May 12 15:04:01
Johann: not teally, Nyom Vithou. Still less water in the streams here. Some still dry. Needs a while down from the mountains and not that much rain yet.

2019 May 12 14:54:37
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2019 May 12 14:51:59
Vithou:   _/\_

2019 May 12 14:40:43
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2019 May 12 14:38:33
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2019 May 12 07:05:30
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2019 May 12 03:58:19
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2019 May 11 17:04:10
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2019 May 11 16:16:56
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2019 May 11 05:35:39
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2019 May 11 00:52:44
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2019 May 10 17:14:43
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2019 May 10 17:09:07
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2019 May 10 17:07:14
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2019 May 10 16:19:14
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2019 May 07 19:12:10
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2019 May 05 04:26:53
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2019 May 04 11:41:08
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2019 May 04 10:27:38
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2019 May 03 10:08:09
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2019 May 03 01:17:53
Johann: A meritful new moon Uposatha those celebrating it today.

2019 May 03 01:16:05
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2019 May 03 01:14:19
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2019 May 02 15:15:58
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2019 May 02 13:47:17
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2019 May 01 14:49:38
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2019 May 01 06:27:25
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2019 May 01 06:22:36
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2019 May 01 05:40:26
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Author Topic: [Q+A] What is the karmic reason for shyness, what is it's cause?  (Read 1648 times)

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Venerable members of the Sangha,
walking in front Fellows in leading the holly life.

  _/\_  _/\_  _/\_

In Respect of the Triple Gems, Buddha, Dhamma and Sangha, in Respect of the Elders of the community  _/\_ ,

my person tries to answer this question. Please, may all knowledgeable Venerables and Dhammika, out of compassion, correct my person, if something is not correct and fill also graps, if something is missing.

Valued Upasaka, Upasika, Aramika(inis),
dear Readers and interested Visitors,

 *sgift*



Shyness has, if not shyness to make good and proper thing, perform deeds which are praised by the wise, has always to do with one kind of the 5 kinds of stinginess (macchariya, in regard of estimate or honor, family (of supporter), dwelling, possessions (material and mental), Dhamma (teaching for beneficial gain)), greed/desire after something else then what is of long term benefit, or ingratitude.

All of this is based on not knowing or at least doubt in regard of what is good and proper for ones long-term benefit. Not having asked wise of what is benefical for one for long term happiness, and what not, is the reason for not knowing, wrong understanding and douts.

Very wrong thinking and acting people might be also, even often, without any shyness, but where such lasts for longer or is even approved by the certain society, it is a strong sign to be in an outer land and one does good if seeking for borderlands .

How ever, the focus here shall be on wrong shyness for those who are looking for long-term happiness.

Since it is said by the wise, that a person of integrity, one having developed virtue, Sīla, is able to approach what ever kind of gathering, upright and without fear, and fear has a cause which is not free from faults, it is proper to conclude from it, that lack of virtue is a cause of shyness (of acting proper) at first place.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

"Five blessings, householders, accrue to the righteous person through his practice of virtue: great increase of wealth through his diligence; a favorable reputation; a confident deportment, without timidity, in every society, be it that of nobles, brahmans, householders, or ascetics; a serene death; and, at the breaking up of the body after death, rebirth in a happy state, in a heavenly world."

— DN 16

It's also proper if saying that a person of much debts is someone seeks out for hidding and acts shy, which meets the first approach at it's root as well: e.g. a poor (in merits, using kammic measures, but similar with material wealth) person ...

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

"Monks, for one who partakes of sensuality, poverty is suffering in the world."

"Yes, lord."

"And a poor, destitute, penniless person gets into debt. For one who partakes of sensuality, getting into debt is suffering in the world."

"Yes, lord."

"And a poor, destitute, penniless person, having gotten into debt, owes interest payments. For one who partakes of sensuality, interest payment is suffering in the world."

"Yes, lord."

"And when a poor, destitute, penniless person owing interest payments does not pay interest on time, they serve him notice. For one who partakes of sensuality, being served notice is suffering in the world."

"Yes, lord."

"And when a poor, destitute, penniless person, being served notice, does not pay, they hound him. For one who partakes of sensuality, being hounded is suffering in the world."

"Yes, lord."

"And when a poor, destitute, penniless person, being hounded, does not pay, he is put into bondage. For one who partakes of sensuality, bondage is suffering in the world."

"Yes, lord."

"Thus, monks, poverty is suffering in the world for one who partakes of sensuality. Getting into debt is suffering in the world for one who partakes of sensuality. Interest payment is suffering in the world for one who partakes of sensuality. Being served notice is suffering in the world for one who partakes of sensuality. Being hounded is suffering in the world for one who partakes of sensuality. Bondage is suffering in the world for one who partakes of sensuality.

"In the same way, monks, whoever has no conviction with regard to skillful mental qualities, no sense of conscience with regard to skillful mental qualities, no sense of concern with regard to skillful mental qualities, no persistence with regard to skillful mental qualities, no discernment with regard to skillful mental qualities is, in the discipline of a noble one, said to be poor, destitute, & penniless.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

"And what is the bliss of blamelessness? There is the case where a disciple of the noble ones is endowed with blameless bodily kamma, blameless verbal kamma, blameless mental kamma. When he thinks, 'I am endowed with blameless bodily kamma, blameless verbal kamma, blameless mental kamma,' he experiences bliss, he experiences joy. This is called the bliss of blamelessness.

...or a just very greedy and stingy person (macchariya ), who is up to a lot of gain but not willing to "pay the price" for certain gain.

Traders are usually shy and avoid approving or disprove, even if clear, since it might be of drawback for there desire of worldly gain.

Shyness, like pointed out here already, is not a general bad thing, but only to be shy in doing what is skilfull and proper to do.

At least shyness to act proper and skillfully and lack of shyness in avoiding to act improper un unskilfuly is a matter of avija, not-knowing of what is proper and skillful either in a certain sociaty to last comfortable in it, or for long-term happiness beyond.

To avoid not knowing, to change to knowing, one has to approach those who know and as it is said by the wise , being not very bright is, acting foolish, to say nothing about stupidity, is caused by not approaching and asking those who know, wise (Brahmans and Contemplatives).

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

"There is the case where a woman or man when visiting a brahman or contemplative, does not ask: 'What is skillful, venerable sir? What is unskillful? What is blameworthy? What is blameless? What should be cultivated? What should not be cultivated? What, having been done by me, will be for my long-term harm & suffering? Or what, having been done by me, will be for my long-term welfare & happiness?' Through having adopted & carried out such actions, on the break-up of the body, after death, he/she reappears in the plane of deprivation... If instead he/she comes to the human state, then he/she will be stupid wherever reborn. This is the way leading to stupidity: when visiting a brahman or contemplative, not to ask: 'What is skillful?... Or what, having been done by me, will be for my long-term welfare & happiness?'

"But then there is the case where a woman or man when visiting a brahman or contemplative, asks: 'What is skillful, venerable sir? What is unskillful? What is blameworthy? What is blameless? What should be cultivated? What should not be cultivated? What, having been done by me, will be for my long-term harm & suffering? Or what, having been done by me, will be for my long-term welfare & happiness?' Through having adopted & carried out such actions, on the break-up of the body, after death, he/she reappears in a good destination... If instead he/she comes to the human state, then he/she is discerning wherever reborn. This is the way leading to discernment: when visiting a brahman or contemplative, to ask: 'What is skillful?... Or what, having been done by me, will be for my long-term welfare & happiness?'

So to change such, gaining Nissaya (good condition, foundation), visit as much as possible, again:

visiting brahman or contemplative, and ask: 'What is skillful, venerable sir? What is unskillful? What is blameworthy? What is blameless? What should be cultivated? What should not be cultivated? What, having been done by me, will be for my long-term harm & suffering? Or what, having been done by me, will be for my long-term welfare & happiness?'


Increasing understanding will destroy any wrong shyness and if having gained faith, the diligent practice of virtue will open ones capacity to be not shy to ask and approach more and more advanced people, real wise.

Also useful: The Karma of Questions: Essays on the Buddhist Path , and Questions of Skill .

To learn and get used to right and wrong shyness, association with people of integrity is very importand as to avoid places where people are not shy to transgress even basics without fear that such actions fall back to them.

One does not need to fear any lose of what is benifical for long term happiness, if associating with integer people and there is also no reason to think that such people would not pardon ones failures.

But one will lose everything if out of greed or stinginess acts shy in fearing to lose bad relationships. Thefore it is said by the Sublime Wise:

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

"The misery from the decrease of relations is nothing in comparison to the decrease of wisdom. Bhikkhus, of decreases the decrease in wisdom is miserable.

It's not possible to learn and addopt virtue and generosity, the main pillows to gain merits, a good stand and freedom from fear, it dwelling in areas where people are used to train each other ignorance and kinds of equanimity to let go of what ever shyness that might come between their situation and desires.

As the highest blessings counts as starter: "Not to associate with the foolish, but to associate with the wise, and to honor those worthy of honor — this is the highest blessing." and ends with "unshakeable peace".

As adviced by the Wise, wise people but not free from aversion, should be observed from distance, to get not possible hurt.

To finish it with counting of what one should have much shyness to not highly respect, my person will cite here the 7 (9) and more things:

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Appamada Sutta: Heedfulness

Then a certain devata, in the far extreme of the night, her extreme radiance lighting up the entirety of Jeta's Grove, went to the Blessed One. On arrival, having bowed down to him, she stood to one side. As she was standing there, she said to the Blessed One, "These seven qualities, lord, lead to a monk's non-decline. Which seven? Respect for the teacher, respect for the Dhamma, respect for the Sangha, respect for training, respect for concentration, respect for heedfulness, respect for hospitality. These seven qualities, lord, lead to the non-decline of a monk."

That is what the devata said. The Teacher approved. Sensing, "The Teacher approves of me," the devata bowed down to the Blessed One and, circled him three times, keeping him to his right, and then disappeared right there.

Then when the night had past, The Blessed One addressed the monks: "Last night, monks, a certain devata in the far extreme of the night, her extreme radiance lighting up the entirety of Jeta's Grove, came to me and, on arrival, bowed down to me and stood to one side. As she was standing there, she said to me, 'These seven qualities, lord, lead to a monk's non-decline. Which seven? Respect for the teacher, respect for the Dhamma, respect for the Sangha, respect for training, respect for concentration, respect for heedfulness, respect for hospitality. These seven qualities, lord, lead to the non-decline of a monk.'

"That is what that devata said. Having said it, she bowed down to me, circled me three times, and then disappeared right there."


Respecting the Teacher
respecting the Dhamma,
and with fierce respect for the Sangha,
respecting concentration, ardent,
and with fierce respect for training,
a monk respecting heedfulness,
and with respect for hospitality
    — incapable of decline —
is right in the presence of unbinding.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Hirima Sutta: A Sense of Shame

"Last night, monks, a certain devata in the far extreme of the night, her extreme radiance lighting up the entirety of Jeta's Grove, came to me and, on arrival, bowed down to me and stood to one side. As she was standing there, she said to me, 'These seven qualities, lord, lead to a monk's non-decline. Which seven? Respect for the teacher, respect for the Dhamma, respect for the Sangha, respect for training, respect for concentration, respect for shame, respect for compunction. These seven qualities, lord, lead to a monk's non-decline.'

"That is what that devata said. Having said it, she bowed down to me, circled me three times, and then disappeared right there."


Respecting the Teacher
respecting the Dhamma,
and with fierce respect for the Sangha,
respecting concentration, ardent,
and with fierce respect for training,
consummate in shame & compunction,
deferential, respectful
    — incapable of decline —
one is right in the presence of unbinding.


See also: AN 7.31 ; AN 7.33 ; AN 7.34 .:



Respecting the Teacher
respecting the Dhamma,
and with fierce respect for the Sangha,
respecting concentration, ardent,
and with fierce respect for training,
having admirable friends, compliant[1],
deferential, respectful
    — incapable of decline —
one is right in the presence of unbinding.



"There is the case where a monk himself has respect for the Teacher. He speaks in praise of having respect for the Teacher. With regard to those other monks who don't have respect for the Teacher, he gets them to undertake respect for the Teacher. As for those other monks who do have respect for the Teacher, he at the proper times speaks in praise of them — truly, accurately.

"There is the case where a monk himself has respect for the Dhamma...

"There is the case where a monk himself has respect for the Sangha...

"There is the case where a monk himself has respect for training...

"There is the case where a monk himself has respect for concentration...

"There is the case where a monk himself is compliant...

"There is the case where a monk himself has admirable friends. He speaks in praise of having admirable friends. With regard to those other monks who don't have admirable friends, he gets them to undertake admirable friendship. As for those other monks who do have admirable friends, he at the proper times speaks in praise of them — truly, accurately.

"This, lord, is how I understand the detailed meaning of the Blessed One's brief statement."
 1. Compliance (sovacassa) = willingness to follow instructions given by Noble Ones.

See also: Respect and Respect, Confidence and Patient

May this "shyless" placing of this words lead to proper rejoice of many, and my all being be touched conductive for their long term happiness by it, may the Devas inform those not touched by it yet.

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Re: [Q+A] What is the karmic reason for shyness, what is it's cause?
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