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[Q&A] What should a 11-17 years old buddhist do?
« on: October 12, 2018, 02:00:42 PM »
On a common, commercial place where Dhamma and generousity is practiced just for exchange and worldly gain and entertainment in and of it self, boundage to the world, and not so much for upwardly and liberation, on a short visit, a young "annonymos" devoted asked:

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What should a 11-17 years old buddhist do?

Can a 11-17 years old meditate and become arahant? Is Buddhism only for adults?

Since internet, for the most, is actually a very dangerousplace in regard of increasing unwholesome behavior, but also less protected by laws and integrity, it's an importand matter.

Like in "real" life, outside of this fine-material realm, it's much better to seek and guide others toward those of different kind and not running free around market places and in cities delightful and dark street. Facebook, google, twitter... my person dies not know the even more special places even by name, are dangerous for adults already, like large cities, now children and those under protection are really not very secure and gaining right ways, when running freely around in the cities and marked places, between disputes, deals and access to so many unskilfull things.

On this matter, for if young people don't wish to get orphans, without guidance, without parents, some words on this account.

It's not only for children, but also good for good parents looking after their children. Since old times, even at Buddhas times, devoted people use to send young people to monasteries, do certain services, learn, possible also ordain and wish for them to see the path to liberation.

So, like if informed devoted people go to monasteries and let the whole family take part, introduce their children to total different ways and not like thinking sometimes "that's just for adults", it's good to encourage them to spend online/free time better in Dhammic enviroments, in borderlands and not in outer lands, where good fastly get lost.



Venerable members of the Sangha,
walking in front Fellows in leading the holly life.

  _/\_  _/\_  _/\_

In Respect of the Triple Gems, Buddha, Dhamma and Sangha, in Respect of the Elders of the community   _/\_ ,

my person tries to answer this question. Please, may all knowledgeable Venerables and Dhammika, out of compassion, correct my person, if something is not correct and fill also graps, if something is missing.

Valued Upasaka, Upasika, Aramika(inis),
dear Readers and interested Visitors,

 *sgift*




No, this path is not only for adults, but opposite or equal: wisdom and needed merits are not a matter of age. And a young tree can be bend easy, while an old is hard to change.

As a child, being provided by all needed to live on (all totally voluntary by others = much debts and required gratitude for it), one can easy life a holly life and attain Sainthood, if in good guidiance of what is good and listen to it.

Seeking out for good monks (keeping the original rules, do not act as lay-people servants and live with lay people), assosiate with them, rander service, listen and if having possibility seeking for being allowed to go forth by oneself: e.g. ordain.

If one is female, a girl, one should not go alone without ones parents, or other male protectors (allowed by father and mother) and approach monk/monks alone. Also should not join even groups of mixed gender and always look out for female groups, tend to mother and possible seek out for nuns our female practicing groups, if very trustfull male attendant can be not found or listen to the Dhamma on more public occations and events to be protected by the group.

In now ways a young person should accumulate debts or waste his merits/wealth for useless things. The sooner meeting and associating with noble people and with deed love listen and follow their advices, the more secure would a young persons path to highest gainings be.

If not accessible, such real friends yet, focus on right view, fulfill all duties toward parents, teacher, elders, stick firm to the basic precepts and practice generosity. Giving the causes, all effects come by it's own: patient is all what is required.

They should in no way lie without dependency and walk around thinking "i can get it somewhere else..." and act very strong bond to their "father", "mother" not violating there duties (which of cause does not include to act against the basic precepts).

Depending on parents and owing a lot of debt toward them, they should ask them whether the are allowing to associate with someone else and depend (also if particular) to them. This includes also asking parents if they allow to join a internet community. (it's totally improper how certain online communities act and protect themselves "against good moral" by just disclaimer, for example, acts careless in giving those under protection ways to act outward their relation. A child is not what is called "vested with legal capacity" and certain disclaimer do not protect especially a legal person of "full legal capacity".).

So possible start to ask your parents if they agree that you came here! And follow what they advice.

Seeing a young man acting according his known rituals, the Buddha explained him the detail meaning and gave him the lay-mans rules: The Layperson's Code of Discipline.

At the end here maybe a short story about "The lucky young monk " and the Arahat Novice Ven. Tissa .

There is the story of the son, my person thinks of Anāthapiṇḍikassa. The devoted rich father tried to get his son the hear and learn the Dhamma, and because his son was always up to gain, offered him money if he approaches the Buddha and learn one teaching form him to receit it later.
The story, after some tries without much success, goes, that he one time really listened the Dhamma and after coming back, refused to accept the bounty from his father, telling that he has gained something of much more value as the huge amount of money.

If my person remembers where to find this Dhammapada-Commentary story, it will be attached here later.

All of this here is just a quick shortcut and it's worthy to explain and ask much in this matter here. It is surly great if this was already enought to get more interested and if some, young or older, beginn to discover this huge topic for better introduction of old traditons to be understood rightly in right context, far away from "just folk-cultural usuals" but the costume of those desiring into the right direction.

Som Anumodana puñña kusala!
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Re: [Q&A] What should a 11-17 years old buddhist do?
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2018, 02:28:52 PM »
Here two stories from the "world" and "Old age - chapter" of the Dhammapada in regard of what was said before:

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

The Story of Kala, son of Anathapindika   

While residing at the Jetavana monastery, the Buddha uttered Verse (178) of this book, with reference to Kala, son of Anathapindika, the well renowned rich man of Savatthi.

Kala, son of Anathapindika, always kept away whenever the Buddha and his company of bhikkhus came to their house. Anathapindika was afraid that if his son kept on behaving in this way, he would be reborn in one of the lower worlds (apayas). So, he enticed his son with the promise of money. He promised to give one hundred if the youth consented to go to the monastery and keep sabbath for one day. So, the youth went to the monastery and returned home early the next day, without listening to any religious discourses. His father offered him rice gruel, but instead of taking his food, he first demanded to have the money.

The next day, the father said to his son, "My son, if you learn a stanza of the Text from the Buddha I will give you one thousand on your return." So, Kala went to the monastery again, and told the Buddha that he wanted to learn something. The Buddha gave him a short stanza to learn by heart; at the same time he willed that the youth would not be able to memorize it. Thus, the youth had to repeat a single stanza many times, but because he had to repeat it so many times, in the end, he came to perceive the full meaning of the Dhamma and attained Sotapatti Fruition.

Early on the next morning, he followed the Buddha and the bhikkhus to his own house. But on that day, he was silently wishing, "I wish my father would not give me the one thousand in the presence of the Buddha. I do not wish the Buddha to know that I kept the sabbath just for the sake of money." His father offered rice gruel to the Buddha and the bhikkhus, and also to him. Then, his father brought one thousand, and told Kala to take the money but surprisingly he refused. His father pressed him to take it, but he still refused. Then, Anathapindika said to the Buddha, "Venerable Sir, my son is quite changed; he now behaves in a very pleasant manner." Then he related to the Buddha how he had enticed the youth with money to go to the monastery and keep sabbath and to learn some religious texts. To him the Buddha replied, "Anathapindika! Today, your son has attained Sotapatti Fruition, which is much better than the riches of the Universal Monarch or that of the devas or that of the brahmas."

Then the Buddha spoke in verse as follows:

Verse 178 Far better than sovereignty over the earth, or far better than going to the abodes of the devas, or far better than ruling supreme over the entire universe, is (the attainment of) Sotapatti Fruition.


Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

The Story of the Son of Mahadhana   


While residing at the Migadaya wood, the Buddha uttered Verses (155) and (156) of this book, with reference to the son of Mahadhana, a rich man from Baranasi.

The son of Mahadhana did not study while he was young; when he came of age he married the daughter of a rich man, who, like him, also had no education. When the parents on both sides died, they inherited eighty crores from each side and so were very rich. But both of them were ignorant and knew only how to spend money and not how to keep it or to make it grow. They just ate and drank and had a good time, squandering their money. When they had spent all, they sold their fields and gardens and finally their house. Thus, they became very poor and helpless; and because they did not know how to earn a living they had to go begging. One day, the Buddha saw the rich man's son leaning against a wall of the monastery, taking the leftovers given him by the samaneras; seeing him, the Buddha smiled.

The Venerable Ananda asked the Buddha why he smiled, and the Buddha replied, "Ananda, look at this son of a very rich man; he had lived a useless life, an aimless life of pleasure. If he had learnt to look after his riches in the first stage of his life he would have been a top-ranking rich man; or if he had become a bhikkhu, he could have been an arahat, and his wife could have been an anagami. If he had learnt to look after his riches in the second stage of his life he would have been a second rank rich man, or if he had become a bhikkhu he could have been an anagami, and his wife could have been a sakadagami. If he had learnt to look after his riches in the third stage of his life he would have been a third rank rich man, or if he had become a bhikkhu he could have been a sakadagami, and his wife could have been a sotapanna. However, because he had done nothing in all the three stages of his life he had lost all his worldly riches, he had also lost all opportunities of attaining any of the Maggas and Phalas."

Then the Buddha spoke in verse as follows:

Verse 155 They, who in youth have neither led the life of Purity nor have acquired wealth, waste away in dejection like decrepit herons on a drying pond deplete of fish. Verse 156 They, who in youth have neither led the Life of Purity nor have acquired wealth, lie helplessly like arrows that have lost momentum, moaning and sighing after the past.
Quote from: Dhp 155-156
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