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2019 Jan 17 09:20:36
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻អរព្រះគុណព្រះអង្គBhante . ករុណាបានអាមអត្ថបទដែលព្រះអង្គបានផុសជាភាសាអង់គ្លេសនោះ បានយល់ខ្លះៗហេីយ :D :D

2019 Jan 17 06:45:05
Johann: Being become, appeare always where desired Why beings take birth, even in most worse existences and circumstances?

2019 Jan 17 06:41:35
Johann: One becomes and dwells there where one is inclinated (most anusayā), distinguished gross: 1. world, 1. Nibbana.

2019 Jan 17 06:20:33
Cheav Villa: លោកតាទើបចេះពន្យល់ ខ្ញុំ​មិនសូវ​ដឹងឆ្លើយទេ ^-^

2019 Jan 17 06:19:32
Cheav Villa: សូមចូលមកសរសេរសួរលោកតា នៅវត្ត​ កុំសួរតាមMessenger  :D

2019 Jan 17 06:18:35
Cheav Villa: សួស្តី​បងធី​ _/\_

2019 Jan 16 16:33:43
Cheav Villa: Things to read :D

2019 Jan 16 16:27:50
Cheav Villa: Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 16 15:28:02
Johann: The Story of Culekasataka (Maha Kassapa and his wife in former life)

2019 Jan 16 15:20:13
Johann: ថ្ងៃ ថ្មី មួូយ ជា ឳកាស ថ្មី មួយ ទៀត។ យើង មិន អាច ដឹង មុន នូវ អ្វី ដែល នឹង កើតឡើង ថ្ងៃ ស្អែក

2019 Jan 16 04:07:43
Khemakumara: Nyom Chanroth

2019 Jan 16 02:09:37
Chanroth: សាធុសាធុសាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 16 02:07:10
Johann: ថ្ងៃ ថ្មី មួូយ ជា ឳកាស ថ្មី មួយ ទៀត។ យើង មិន អាច ដឹង មុន នូវ អ្វី ដែល នឹង កើតឡើង ថ្ងៃ ស្អែក

2019 Jan 16 02:06:36
Chanroth: ជំរាបសួរ Moritz

2019 Jan 16 02:06:31
Johann: "Another day, another possibility. We don't know what tomorrow might be."

2019 Jan 15 19:41:08
Khemakumara: Nyom Moritz

2019 Jan 15 19:38:38
Moritz: Vandami Bhante (Khemakumara) _/\_

2019 Jan 15 17:13:16
Johann: Nyom Puthy, maybe this helps: ការរបៀបឆ្លេីយនៅក្នុង website .

2019 Jan 15 16:10:29
Ieng Puthy: ព្រះអង្គករុណាសូមថ្វាយបង្គំុលាសិនហេីយ 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

2019 Jan 15 16:07:58
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាគ្រាន់តែចូលអាន ករុណាមិនទាន់យល់ពីរបៀបឆ្លេីយនៅក្នុងwebsite នៅឡេីយទេ ព្រះអង្គ 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

2019 Jan 15 16:00:58
Johann: How ever one feels inspired, has joy, likes to give into.  How can I use the forum purposefully, for myself, as well as for others?

2019 Jan 15 15:57:55
Johann: No need to use all possibilities for merits for one alone but good to invite others to join and become more independend till free.

2019 Jan 15 15:04:39
Johann: no requirement to do all, merits step by step. "The path to nibbana is hard", they say, and don't do even little steps, Nyom. As inspired, its at least a working and concentration camp, Devas delight in creation, Devas having contr. over the creation of others.

2019 Jan 15 14:53:43
Cheav Villa: ព្រះអង្គការបកប្រែមកជាខ្មែរ  មានខុសច្រើនណាស់  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 15 14:49:16
Khemakumara: leng Puthy

2019 Jan 15 14:48:29
Khemakumara: Nyom leng Pitts

2019 Jan 15 14:45:35
Johann: There is a lot of new for many. If the Nyom Ladies like to help in translating here and there a little, it might be easier for khmer-speaking monks to get informed well.

2019 Jan 15 14:25:23
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ ព្រះអង្គ Bhante Khemakumara

2019 Jan 15 13:33:34
Khemakumara: Bhante Muni

2019 Jan 15 13:32:47
Khemakumara: Bhante Johann _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 15 13:27:53
Johann: Bhante Muni

2019 Jan 15 10:46:40
Johann: But a topic can be opened everywhere and can then be moved.

2019 Jan 15 10:45:27
Johann: There is also a Link to direct Requests for Teachings - link, so things get not lost.

2019 Jan 15 10:44:12
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាព្រះអង្គ🙏🏻អរព្រះគុុណ ព្រះអង្គ

2019 Jan 15 10:42:55
Johann: Good place is surely at  Dhammatalks - (dhamma desanā)

2019 Jan 15 10:35:06
Johann: Talkbox is not proper, just for greating and small-talk

2019 Jan 15 10:24:47
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ព្រះអង្គ តេីមានធម៌អ្វីដែលអាចកំចាត់ធម៌លោភៈល្អិតនៅក្នុងចិត្តបានដែរឬទេ ?ព្រះអង្គ Vandami Banthe 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Jan 15 10:21:37
Johann: Just open a new topic best, Nyom Puthy (requires some bhava-chanda)

2019 Jan 15 10:17:22
Johann: Nyom Puthy

2019 Jan 15 10:07:10
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ ព្រះអង្គ Vandami Banthe

2019 Jan 15 10:01:15
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ ព្រះអង្គមុនី! ករុណាមានសំណួរ១អំពី អនុស្ស័យកិលេសមាន៧ គឺ 1-កាមរាគានុស្ស័យ 2-ភវនុស្ស័យ3

2019 Jan 15 09:31:36
Cheav Villa:  :)  _/\_

2019 Jan 15 09:27:54
Chanroth: ខ្ញុំព្រះករុណាសូមថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គមុន្នី ពីរអាស្រមថ្មទូក_/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 15 09:21:46
Chanroth: បាតជំរាបសួរបងស្រី ខ្ញុំមិនទាន់បានធ្វេីនៅឡេីយទេ ពីព្រោះខ្ញុំឈឺ បានធូហេីយ តែមិនទាន់បាត់ថ្លោះករនៅឡេីយ _/\_

2019 Jan 15 08:57:49
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គមុនី  _/\_

2019 Jan 15 07:34:19
Johann: Bhante Khemakumara

2019 Jan 15 05:57:47
Cheav Villa: តើពូកំពុងជួយការងារលោកតាមែនទេ?តើនៅអាស្រមមានកង្វះខាតអ្វីទេនៅពេលនេះ

2019 Jan 15 05:54:51
Cheav Villa: ជំរាបសួរពូចាន់រ័ត្ន _/\_

2019 Jan 15 01:12:12
Johann: And "we" wouldn't always know or find out but need to relay on one who know

2019 Jan 15 01:06:48
Johann: There are two kinds of sadness and happiness, of which one of each is conductive for liberation, one not.

2019 Jan 15 01:02:24
Mohan Gnanathilake: May we always be able to find out for ourselves how much attachment we accumulate, and whether this brings us happiness or sorrow! Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!

2019 Jan 15 01:00:52
Mohan Gnanathilake: Mögen wir immer  selbst herausfinden kӧnnen, wie viel Anhaftung wir anhäufen und ob  diese Anhaftung uns die Frӧhlichkeit oder  die Traurigkeit bringt! Dhamma Grüβe aus Sri Lanka!

2019 Jan 14 13:52:41
Johann: Nyom Puthy. May you all have good Dhamma conversations with each other, don't be shy on that. Atma will go to rest.

2019 Jan 14 13:48:00
Johann: ញោម ចាន់រ័ត្ន

2019 Jan 14 12:49:01
Cheav Villa: អរព្រះគុណព្រះអង្គ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 14 12:36:20
Mohan Gnanathilake: May we possess the causes of blissfulness always! Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!

2019 Jan 14 12:35:18
Mohan Gnanathilake: Mӧgen wir immer die Ursachen der Glückseligkeit besitzen! Dhamma Grüβe  aus Sri Lanka!

2019 Jan 14 10:20:32
Johann: "នាងវិសាខា ក្រាបបង្គំទូលថា ថ្ងៃនេះខ្ញុំម្ចាស់រក្សាឧបោសថៈព្រះអង្គ។"...

2019 Jan 14 09:49:40
Chanroth:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 14 06:59:34
Cheav Villa: Jain-Upossathaកូណាមុិនទាន់យល់ន័យនៃពាក្យនេះទេ _/\_

2019 Jan 14 05:12:41
Johann: "មិនមែនជារបស់ខ្លួន"... មែន(sense)ទុក្ខឬមិន? Where?

2019 Jan 14 04:57:55
Johann: Buddha and Savaka do not teach Jain-Uposatha: អ្នកណា​មាទុក្ខ? , Sadhu

2019 Jan 14 04:50:21
Johann: ជាធម៌អសេង្ខបុគ្គល! មានទេមិនមាន ... ការនិយាយអំពីសត្វ។ ធម៌ទាំងអស់មានមូលហេតុ ដូច្នេះ: រឿងដំបូងនៅលើកដំបូង!

2019 Jan 14 04:21:59
Cheav Villa: មិនមែនជារបស់ខ្លួន ជាអនត្តាធម៌ ជាធម៌អសេង្ខបុគ្គល  _/\_

2019 Jan 14 04:16:00
Johann: មិនមែនជារបស់ខ្លួនទេ = មិនមែនទុក្ខទេ

2019 Jan 14 04:06:00
Johann: Nyom Puthy

2019 Jan 14 04:05:16
Johann: ទុក្ខំ អនិច្ចំ អន្តតា !

2019 Jan 14 02:18:42
Chanroth: ទុក្ខំ អនិច្ចំ អន្តតា

2019 Jan 13 15:16:49
Johann: First things first , very recommended, hearing the Uposatha of the Jains from the Villages all the time here.

2019 Jan 13 15:05:49
Johann: again and again coming back to Dhamma, Punja? Habits become destinies.

2019 Jan 13 14:53:42
Johann: coming back seems to be niccaŋ

2019 Jan 13 14:40:52
Cheav Villa: អនិច្ចំ *sgift*

2019 Jan 13 14:29:43
Ieng Puthy:  Chom reap leah , good bye🙏🏼

2019 Jan 13 14:18:50
Moritz: Chom reap leah, good bye _/\_

2019 Jan 13 14:11:50
Ieng Puthy: Hello Master Morithz🙏🏼

2019 Jan 13 14:07:24
Moritz: Hello Ieng Puthy _/\_

2019 Jan 13 14:07:16
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Jan 13 13:54:34
Ieng Puthy: ជំរាបសួរ បងចាន់រ័ត្ន Bong Chanroth 🙏🏼សូមបងឆាប់បានជាសះស្បេីយ

2019 Jan 13 13:49:26
Johann: Meister Moritz

2019 Jan 13 09:17:06
Chanroth: ខ្ញំបានជាហើយ តែវេទនាបានកើតឡើងចំពោះខ្ញុំ បញ្ហាថ្លោះកករ :-\

2019 Jan 13 07:49:41
Cheav Villa: ជំរាបសួរពូចាន់រ័ត្ន ពូបានធូរស្បើយហើយមើលទៅ :D _/\_

2019 Jan 13 07:48:35
Cheav Villa: Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 13 07:47:10
Johann: May all spent a meritful Siladay today or tomorrow.

2019 Jan 13 05:07:45
Chanroth: ជំរាបសួរបងស្រី វីឡាខ្ញុំបាទchanroth _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 13 00:05:39
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាព្រះអង្គ Bhante 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Jan 12 09:04:48
Johann: Nyom Puthy

2019 Jan 11 13:49:09
Cheav Villa: Thank you Bang Thy. Good come in and out  :D _/\_

2019 Jan 11 13:41:49
Johann: Sadhu

2019 Jan 11 13:13:35
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻ជំរាបសួរបងប្អូនធម្មមិត្តទាំងអស់គ្នា chumreap sour Dhamma friends !  May all have a good evening

2019 Jan 11 13:04:15
Ieng Puthy: ករុណា ព្រះអង្គ Bhante 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Jan 09 17:17:52
Cheav Villa: Bhante  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jan 09 16:12:53
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Jan 09 05:06:55
Johann: Nyom Puthy

2019 Jan 09 00:43:24
Johann: Sadhu

2019 Jan 08 16:15:17
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ​ Khemakumara Bhante

2019 Jan 08 16:13:20
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ​ Inddanano Bhante

2019 Jan 08 16:11:09
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 កូរុណាថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ​ vandami Bhente

2019 Jan 08 12:48:21
Moritz: May all have a good evening _/\_ Chom reap leah _/\_

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Lost tradition of Sila/Uposatha-day/observance
« on: November 01, 2018, 01:14:40 AM »
The Buddha allowed the Monks to give talks on Dhamma to laypeople gathering fourteenth, fifteenth, and eighth (day) of the fortnight.

Today this possibility and tradition is twofold undermined:

1. By hindrences such as not really recognising this days as "holly-days"

2. By the tendency of holding holly-days for holydays.

What's Nyom Guest or your workaround to keep good tradition alive?

Quote from: Johann in talk-box
...in earlier times "Buddhist" would come the day before Sila-day to the monastery and, not going to sleep, after having taken 8 precepts, do 24h merits. "good old times..." 

When asked, does it look like: "I get no freetime on those days usually." When freetime: "Oh, at least it's just holey- and not hollyday, today."
« Last Edit: November 01, 2018, 01:23:16 AM by Johann »
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Re: Lost tradition of Sila/Uposatha-day/observance
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2018, 12:25:24 PM »
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My sleep, my health, my many household, feelings, rememberance, projects, recognitions ... "I want to have time when I am old and sick ... surely! សូមព្រះអង្គជួយពន្យល់ផង...

* Johann Oh my person sees... one can use the [ you ] code . A "nasty one". Then it would display the Name of who ever looks at it, to feel personal approached.

Posting in talk-box is limited in words and just for things like Abhivadana, greating, quick statements, Nyom Cheav Villa .

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Re: Lost tradition of Sila/Uposatha-day/observance
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2018, 01:24:42 PM »

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ខ្ញុំ​កូណាមិនយល់ពីពាក្យរបស់ព្រះអង្គទេ (I, Breah Karuna, don't understand what is meant here):
My sleep, my health, my many household, feelings, rememberance, projects, recognitions ... "I want to have time when I'm old and sick ... surely! សូម ព្រះអង្គ ជួ (May Breah Ang help (here))

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Re: Lost tradition of Sila/Uposatha-day/observance
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2018, 01:32:52 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2018, 02:22:04 PM »
ព្រះអង្គ
ខ្ញុំកូណាចូលចិត្តប្រធានបទអំពីថ្ងៃសីល គួររក្សាប្រពៃណីជួបជុំគ្នា​ ថ្ងៃសីលជាថ្ងៃបុណ្យ ធ្វេីបុណ្យ រក្សាសីលស្តាប់ធម្ម។ ព្រះអង្គ តែការចាប់ធ្វេីអោយទូលំទូលាយឡេីងវិញ ថ្ងៃបុណ្យក្នុងប្រពៃណីរបស់ពុទ្ធសាសនិជន គួរផ្តេីមចេញពីកត្តាអ្វីខ្លះ បេីក្នុងស្ថានភាពមនុស្សជុំវិញខ្លួនជាច្រេីនមិនចូលចិត្តនឹងការលះធ្វេីបុណ្យ?

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Re: Lost tradition of Sila/Uposatha-day/observance
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2018, 03:19:00 PM »
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Re: Lost tradition of Sila/Uposatha-day/observance
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2018, 03:29:01 PM »
ព្រះអង្គ
ខ្ញុំកូណាចូលចិត្តប្រធានបទអំពីថ្ងៃសីល គួររក្សាប្រពៃណីជួបជុំគ្នា​ ថ្ងៃសីលជាថ្ងៃបុណ្យ ធ្វេីបុណ្យ រក្សាសីលស្តាប់ធម្ម។


Breah Ang, I, Breah Karuna, like the topic about the Sila-Day, the deed of observing the Silas, the deed of gathering together on Sila-days as a day of merits, making merits in obaerving Silas and listen to the Dhamma.

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Re: Lost tradition of Sila/Uposatha-day/observance
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2018, 04:04:07 PM »
* Johann : again over 400, 500 visitors now, yesterday nearly 600... seems that a lot of Devas following Nyom, come to listen speaking about the Dhamma, everytime here (5 years 50 at the same time was already much)  :)

ព្រះអង្គ តែការចាប់ធ្វេីអោយទូលំទូលាយឡេីងវិញ ថ្ងៃបុណ្យក្នុងប្រពៃណីរបស់ពុទ្ធសាសនិជន គួរផ្តេីមចេញពីកត្តាអ្វីខ្លះ បេីក្នុងស្ថានភាពមនុស្សជុំវិញខ្លួនជាច្រេីនមិនចូលចិត្តនឹងការលះធ្វេីបុណ្យ?

But, Breah Ang, but to force a general reinstallation in traditional ways of the Buddha-Sasana should come from what? All around in the world of humans there is the matter of dislike in regard of letting go to make merits.

[not sure if translated and understoid the question right in all aspects: may it be corrected if not.]

Yes, those delight in merits get lesser and lesser till it collapse again. How ever, the Buddha did not see that it is possible to change Samsaras ways, so one following him should not put to much hope in such. But! As soon one changes his aspiration ones world grows better and better by lesser and lesser involvement. That is why the Buddha encouraged not to keep Uposatha sometimes sometimes not, but to constantly increase it, taking Samvega but mostly pasada as ones force:

Ill-gotten if just sometimes :

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

...លុះ​ពួក​សក្យឧបាសក អង្គុយ​ក្នុងទី​សមគួរ​ហើយ ព្រះដ៏មានព្រះភាគ បានត្រាស់​ដូច្នេះថា ម្នាល​សក្យៈទាំងឡាយ អ្នក​ទាំងឡាយ បានរក្សា​ឧបោសថ ប្រកប​ដោយអង្គ ៨ ដែរឬ។ បពិត្រ​ព្រះអង្គ​ដ៏ចំរើន ជួន​កាល យើងទាំងឡាយ បានរក្សា​ឧបោសថ ប្រកប​ដោយអង្គ ៨ ជួនកាល យើង​ទាំង​ឡាយ មិនបាន​រក្សា។ ម្នាលសក្យៈ​ទាំងឡាយ អ្នកទាំងឡាយ​នោះ ពេញ​ជា​ឥតលាភ​ហើយ ការបាន​នូវអត្តភាព​ជាមនុស្ស អ្នក​ទាំងឡាយនោះ បានដោយ​កម្រ ដ្បិត​ថាអ្នក​ទាំងឡាយ ជួនកាល​ក៏បានរក្សា​ឧបោសថ ប្រកប​ដោយអង្គ ៨ ជួនកាល​ក៏មិនបាន​រក្សា ក្នុង​ជីវិតប្រកប​ដោយសោក និង​ភ័យក្នុង​ជីវិត ប្រកប​ដោយមរណៈ និង​ភ័យ​យ៉ាងនេះ។ ...
Quote from: AN 10.046/Sakkasutta book 50

But another question, just curious: If there is a religious lay person in Cambodia wishing to keep the Uposatha-Day, would he/she get the holly-day from the company, like Sunday is the traditional free day for western/Christians?

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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2018, 02:04:45 AM »
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ខាងលេីនេះជាចម្លេីយហេីយព្រះអង្គ ក្នុងការបដិបត្តិត្រូវតែចាប់ផ្តេីមពីឆន្ទះផ្ទាល់ខ្លួនមុន មិនមានត្រូវការអូសទាញអ្នកដទៃនោះទេ៕

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Re: Lost tradition of Sila/Uposatha-day/observance
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2018, 04:22:15 AM »

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Jivaka Sutta: To Jivaka
(On Being a Lay Follower)


I have heard that on one occasion the Blessed One was staying in Rajagaha, at Jivaka's Mango Grove. Then Jivaka Komarabhacca went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, having bowed down, sat to one side. As he was sitting there he said to the Blessed One: "Lord, to what extent is one a lay follower?"

"Jivaka, when one has gone to the Buddha for refuge, has gone to the Dhamma for refuge, and has gone to the Sangha for refuge, then to that extent is one a lay follower."

"And to what extent, lord, is one a virtuous lay follower?"

"Jivaka, when one abstains from taking life, from stealing, from sexual misconduct, from lying, and from fermented & distilled drinks that lead to heedlessness, then to that extent is one a virtuous lay follower."

"And to what extent, lord, is one a lay follower who practices for his own benefit but not that of others?"

"Jivaka, when a lay follower himself is consummate in conviction but does not encourage others in the consummation of conviction; when he himself is consummate in virtue but does not encourage others in the consummation of virtue; when he himself is consummate in generosity but does not encourage others in the consummation of generosity; when he himself desires to see the monks but does not encourage others to see the monks; when he himself wants to hear the true Dhamma but does not encourage others to hear the true Dhamma; when he himself habitually remembers the Dhamma he has heard but does not encourage others to remember the Dhamma they have heard; when he himself explores the meaning of the Dhamma he has heard but does not encourage others to explore the meaning of the Dhamma they have heard; when he himself, knowing both the Dhamma & its meaning, practices the Dhamma in line with the Dhamma, but does not encourage others to practice the Dhamma in line with the Dhamma: then to that extent he is a lay follower who practices for his own benefit but not for the benefit of others."

"And to what extent, lord, is one a lay follower who practices both for his own benefit & the benefit of others?"

"Jivaka, when a lay follower himself is consummate in conviction and encourages others in the consummation of conviction; when he himself is consummate in virtue and encourages others in the consummation of virtue; when he himself is consummate in generosity and encourages others in the consummation of generosity; when he himself desires to see the monks and encourages others to see the monks; when he himself wants to hear the true Dhamma and encourages others to hear the true Dhamma; when he himself habitually remembers the Dhamma he has heard and encourages others to remember the Dhamma they have heard; when he himself explores the meaning of the Dhamma he has heard and encourages others to explore the meaning of the Dhamma they have heard; when he himself, knowing both the Dhamma & its meaning, practices the Dhamma in line with the Dhamma and encourages others to practice the Dhamma in line with the Dhamma: then to that extent he is a lay follower who practices both for his own benefit and for the benefit of others."


៦. ជីវកសូត្រ

[២៦] សម័យមួយ ព្រះដ៏មានព្រះភាគ ទ្រង់គង់នៅ​ក្នុង​ជីវកម្ពវន ជិត​ក្រុង​រាជគ្រឹះ។ គ្រានោះ ជីវកកោមារភត្យ ចូលទៅគាល់ព្រះដ៏មានព្រះភាគ លុះ​ចូលទៅ​ដល់ហើយ ក៏​ក្រាបថ្វាយ​បង្គំព្រះដ៏មាន​ព្រះភាគ រួចអង្គុយ​ក្នុងទី​ដ៏សមគួរ។ លុះ​ជីវក​កោមារភត្យ អង្គុយ​ក្នុងទី​ដ៏សមគួរ​ហើយ ក៏ក្រាប​បង្គំទូល​ព្រះដ៏មាន​ព្រះភាគ​យ៉ាងនេះថា បពិត្រ​ព្រះអង្គ​ដ៏​ចំរើន បុគ្គល​បានជា​ឧបាសក តើដោយ​ហេតុ​ដូចម្តេច។ ម្នាលជីវក បុគ្គល​អ្នកដល់នូវ​ព្រះពុទ្ធ​ជាទីពឹង ដល់នូវ​ព្រះធម៌​ជាទីពឹង ដល់នូវ​ព្រះសង្ឃ​ជាទីពឹង ដោយហេតុ​ណា ម្នាល​ជីវក បុគ្គលនោះ បានជា​ឧបាសក ដោយហេតុ​មាន​ប្រមាណប៉ុណ្ណេះឯង។
បពិត្រព្រះអង្គដ៏ចំរើន ចុះឧបាសក​អ្នកមានសីល តើដោយ​ហេតុដូចម្តេច។ ម្នាល​ជីវក ឧបាសក​ជាអ្នកវៀរចាក​បាណាតិបាត។បេ។  វៀរចាក​សុរាមេរយមជ្ជប្បមាទដ្ឋាន ដោយ​ហេតុណា ម្នាល​ជីវក ឧបាសក​ជា​អ្នក​មានសីល ដោយហេតុ​មាន​ប្រមាណ​ប៉ុណ្ណេះឯង។
បពិត្រព្រះអង្គដ៏ចំរើន ចុះឧបាសក​អ្នកប្រតិបត្តិ ដើម្បីប្រយោជន៍​ផ្ទាល់ខ្លួន មិន​ប្រតិបត្តិ ដើម្បីប្រយោជន៍​បុគ្គល​ដទៃ តើដោយ​ហេតុ​ដូចម្តេច។ ម្នាល​ជីវក ឧបាសក អ្នក​បរិបូណ៌ដោយ​សទ្ធា ដោយ​ខ្លួនឯង តែមិន​បបួល​បុគ្គលដទៃ ឲ្យ​បរិបូណ៌ ដោយ​សទ្ធា ១។បេ។ អ្នកដឹងច្បាស់​នូវអត្ថ ដឹងច្បាស់​នូវធម៌ ហើយប្រតិបត្តិ​នូវធម៌​ដ៏សមគួរ​ដល់ធម៌ ដោយ​ខ្លួនឯង តែមិនបបួល​បុគ្គលដទៃ ឲ្យប្រតិបត្តិ​នូវធម៌ដ៏​សមគួរ​ដល់ធម៌ ១ ដោយ​ហេតុ​ណា ម្នាល​ជីវក ឧបាសក​អ្នកប្រតិបត្តិ​ដើម្បី​ប្រយោជន៍​ផ្ទាល់ខ្លួន មិន​ប្រតិបត្តិ​ដើម្បីប្រយោជន៍​បុគ្គល​ដទៃ ដោយហេតុ​មាន​ប្រមាណ​ប៉ុណ្ណេះឯង។
បពិត្រព្រះអង្គដ៏ចំរើន ចុះឧបាសក​អ្នក​ប្រតិបត្តិ ដើម្បី​ប្រយោជន៍​ផ្ទាល់​ខ្លួនផង ដើម្បីប្រយោជន៍បុគ្គល​ដទៃ​ផង តើដោយ​ហេតុ​ដូចម្តេច។ ម្នាល​ជីវក ឧបាសក​អ្នក​បរិបូណ៌​ដោយ​សទ្ធា ដោយ​ខ្លួនឯង ទាំង​បបួល​បុគ្គល​ដទៃ ឲ្យ​បរិបូណ៌​ដោយសទ្ធា ១ អ្នកបរិបូណ៌ដោយ​សីល​ដោយ​ខ្លួនឯង ទាំង​បបួល​បុគ្គល​ដទៃ ឲ្យបរិបូណ៌​ដោយសីល ១ អ្នក​បរិបូណ៌​ដោយចាគៈ​ដោយខ្លួនឯង ទាំងបបួល​បុគ្គល​ដទៃ ឲ្យបរិបូណ៌​ដោយចាគៈ ១ អ្នក​ចង់ចួប​ប្រទះ​ពួកភិក្ខុ​ដោយ​ខ្លួនឯង ទាំង​បបួល​បុគ្គល​ដទៃ ឲ្យចួប​ប្រទះ​ពួកភិក្ខុ ១ អ្នកចង់ស្តាប់​ព្រះសទ្ធម្ម​ដោយខ្លួន​ឯង ទាំង​បបួល​បុគ្គល​ដទៃ ឲ្យបានស្តាប់​នូវ​ព្រះសទ្ធម្ម ១ ជាអ្នក​ទ្រទ្រង់​នូវធម៌​ទាំងឡាយ ដែលបាន​ស្តាប់ហើយ​ដោយខ្លួន​ឯង ទាំង​បបួល​បុគ្គល​ដទៃ ឲ្យទ្រទ្រង់​នូវធម៌ ១ អ្នកពិចារណា នូវអត្ថ​នៃធម៌​ទាំងឡាយ ដែល​បានស្តាប់​ហើយ ដោយ​ខ្លួនឯង ទាំង​បបួល​បុគ្គល​ដទៃ ឲ្យពិចារណា​នូវអត្ថ ១ អ្នកដឹងច្បាស់​នូវអត្ថ ដឹងច្បាស់​​នូវធម៌ ហើយប្រតិបត្តិ​នូវធម៌​ដ៏សមគួរ​ដល់ធម៌ ដោយ​ខ្លួនឯង ទាំង​បបួល​បុគ្គល​ដទៃ ឲ្យប្រតិបត្តិ​​នូវធម៌​ដ៏សមគួរ​ដល់ធម៌ ១ ដោយ​ហេតុណា ម្នាលជីវក ឧបាសក​អ្នក​ប្រតិបត្តិ​ដើម្បី​ប្រយោជន៍​ផ្ទាល់ខ្លួន​ផង ដើម្បីប្រយោជន៍​បុគ្គល​ដទៃផង ដោយ​ហេតុ​មាន​ប្រមាណ​ប៉ុណ្ណេះឯង។
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