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A fridays journey in Dhamma into the forest (Nov. 2018)
« on: November 09, 2018, 09:22:18 AM »

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Atma was just up to go down for Alms as Nyom Chanroth rushed up, bowed down and said exhausted: "Good that I could meet you, De Gun, I ask, Breah Karuna, to go on alm a little later, at nine, and it would be good if De Gun goes to the south."

On the way later, a group of Upasaka and Upasika in white have alms along the road. Back, after having taken the meal… this group of 6, 8 devoted arrived, honored the tripple Gems and gave medicine and tonics.

After this a longer Dhamma-Discussion followed. Most of them well informed and taught in literary Dhamma, good educated older and younger Dhammikas. Like mostly "What to do that tendency from theory to practice and active letting go can be forced."

Having good 3h discussed the Dhamma, after they went up to look at the matters around the Kuti, they went on back, leaving many thoughtful things, given up for the Sanghas use behind, bags of sand, Mangotrees, cement, water (knowing that the building would cost rare water for dailies requirement).

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Althought raining before, raining after, like always when people with skilful intent come into the Srok of Aral Mountain, the weather, sound, smell, all outwardly was perfect protected by the mighty Devas dwelling around in their refuge, one of the last far over the land.

Maybe they might share some pictures of their merits done today by themselves or someone might help them in being able to do so also here.
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Re: A fridays journey in Dhamma into the forest (Nov. 2018)
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2018, 10:26:04 AM »
Sadhu
Prah Karuna Prah Ang  _/\_
As always, they will share their merits today on Social Media (fb)
And kuna will ask for their Pictures then   ^-^

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Re: A fridays journey in Dhamma into the forest (Nov. 2018)
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2018, 10:34:16 AM »
Sadhu! Facebook is fine in the world, good if finding ways more into Dhamma (it would not increase debts in the would). There was a older Upasaka in the group and maybe it's possible to let him know about following addition (e.g. Merits on fb leads to further kamma!):

Since the talk was also on 4 types of kamma, wondering of what the kamma is that does not lead to further. It's not so that liberation can be attained without just kusala deeds, but this kusala deeds have right view at it's beginning. One should not think that Nibbana can be reached by "neutral kamma", or willinglessness.

Here again the Sutta, and if someone knows how to address the devoted Upasaka, it would be good to forward it again.

One get's that Sutta totally wrong when thinking in Abhidamma-tables, totally! Right resolve/intention displays alobha, adosa, amoha, if looking exact.

The objective on the path is in as far different as it does not have another destiny aside of liberatiin from Dukkha while common kusala-actions have certain aims and destinies in the world as object.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Ariyamagga Sutta: The Noble Path

"Monks, these four types of kamma have been directly realized, verified, & made known by me. Which four? There is kamma that is dark with dark result. There is kamma that is bright with bright result. There is kamma that is dark & bright with dark & bright result. There is kamma that is neither dark nor bright with neither dark nor bright result, leading to the ending of kamma.

"And what is kamma that is dark with dark result? There is the case where a certain person fabricates an injurious bodily fabrication, fabricates an injurious verbal fabrication, fabricates an injurious mental fabrication. Having fabricated an injurious bodily fabrication, having fabricated an injurious verbal fabrication, having fabricated an injurious mental fabrication, he rearises in an injurious world. On rearising in an injurious world, he is there touched by injurious contacts. Touched by injurious contacts, he experiences feelings that are exclusively painful, like those of the beings in hell. This is called kamma that is dark with dark result.

"And what is kamma that is bright with bright result? There is the case where a certain person fabricates a non-injurious bodily fabrication ... a non-injurious verbal fabrication ... a non-injurious mental fabrication ... He rearises in a non-injurious world ... There he is touched by non-injurious contacts ... He experiences feelings that are exclusively pleasant, like those of the Beautiful Black Devas. This is called kamma that is bright with bright result.

"And what is kamma that is dark & bright with dark & bright result? There is the case where a certain person fabricates a bodily fabrication that is injurious & non-injurious ... a verbal fabrication that is injurious & non-injurious ... a mental fabrication that is injurious & non-injurious ... He rearises in an injurious & non-injurious world ... There he is touched by injurious & non-injurious contacts ... He experiences injurious & non-injurious feelings, pleasure mingled with pain, like those of human beings, some devas, and some beings in the lower realms. This is called kamma that is dark & bright with dark & bright result.

"And what is kamma that is neither dark nor bright with neither dark nor bright result, leading to the ending of kamma? Right view, right resolve, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration. This is called kamma that is neither dark nor bright with neither dark nor bright result, leading to the ending of kamma.

"These, monks, are the four types of kamma directly realized, verified, & made known by me."

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Re: A fridays journey in Dhamma into the forest (Nov. 2018)
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2018, 10:53:03 AM »
Oh... and there was a younger man, a leader of IT-companies, who felt by heart it's time to follow Dhamma and seek for longer happiness, Nyom Cheav Villa . It would be possible good if he get's to know Upasaka Moritz  , the generous IT-householder (most in the background) how makes this monastery here possible in many regards, since he is a Dhammika, rejoicing in good deeds and a young diploma mathematica (something sure lacking in Cambodia), possible same age, sometimes not so gifted with work, a little similar like Nyom Chanroth, it would be possible good if they come in touch with each other, maybe even here and not FB...  ^-^ just because this walk in Dhamma needs a full day association with people toward good aims.
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Re: A fridays journey in Dhamma into the forest (Nov. 2018)
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2018, 11:18:34 AM »
Kuna Prah Ang
He is my Counsin. I Karuna will let him knows by forward The message above  _/\_

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Re: A fridays journey in Dhamma into the forest (Nov. 2018)
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2018, 12:14:31 PM »
Maybe incl. ច្បាប់បរស់ on effects of drinking, even it's "just" for the sake of business. (what he had seen clear today).

Mudita,
what a blessed family helping each other on the path! like the Buddhas relatives filling the Tipitaka.
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Re: A fridays journey in Dhamma into the forest (Nov. 2018)
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2018, 12:19:04 PM »
kuna Prah Ang  _/\_

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Re: A fridays journey in Dhamma into the forest (Nov. 2018)
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2018, 09:16:46 AM »
 _/\_

I Kuruna have sent Prah Ang's essage to them,
then just got the likes.. :D
Below are some of their post on FB tonight and this morning:   

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Re: A fridays journey in Dhamma into the forest (Nov. 2018)
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2018, 09:56:40 AM »
Mudita
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Re: A fridays journey in Dhamma into the forest (Nov. 2018)
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2018, 11:57:25 AM »
Prah Ang,
Kuna saved their some photos as below

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Re: A fridays journey in Dhamma into the forest (Nov. 2018)
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2018, 12:16:15 PM »
Sadhu.

Sure Nyom, Nyom like to share their merits outside their community? Is it because difficult to join here for others? It's really and totally not about gaining pictures.
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Re: A fridays journey in Dhamma into the forest (Nov. 2018)
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2018, 12:23:56 PM »
Kuna Prah Ang
My Cousin Puthy Ieng sooner in the web, 
she give I Kuna her email address and password to create
an acct for now  _/\_

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Re: A fridays journey in Dhamma into the forest (Nov. 2018)
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2018, 01:07:56 PM »
That's what is called in the Mangala Sutta "..having rendered help to relatives... chea mangul do odom (this is the highest blessing/protection)".

* Johann Seems as if Nyom has become the/a connector of different worlds in Nyoms spheres. When ever such as an email account for clean Dhamma-purpose is needed, of use, Nyom may let it be known. The giver of the possibilities here are happy it some may make good use of possibilities without strings to the world.
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2018, 02:38:39 PM »
Kuna Prah Ang _/\_

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Welcome Vithou
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2018, 12:13:51 AM »

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Ein oder mehrer Beiträge wurden hier im Thema abgeschnitten und damit in neues Thema "Welcome Vithou " eröffnet, dem angehäng.
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Johann

Today at 01:00:45 AM
May all delight in observing this Sila-days inspirations of cleaning the mind.
 

Johann

November 15, 2018, 01:49:25 PM
Mag da Freude mit guten Unternehmungen sein.
 

Roman

November 15, 2018, 01:46:28 PM
ich gehe jetzt wieder an die Arbeit. ich wünsche allen einen friedevollen Tag!
 

Roman

November 15, 2018, 01:35:30 PM
ich würde mich sehr freuen dass mal mit eigenen augen zu sehen..habe auch geplant nächstes Jahr nach Kambodscha zu kommen.
 

Johann

November 15, 2018, 01:14:27 PM
Thmo Duk , zur Zeit und schon gute Weile, Nyom Roman.
 

Roman

November 15, 2018, 01:07:51 PM
Hello Cheav Villa

 

Roman

November 15, 2018, 12:57:27 PM
Johann wo leben sie eigentlich? Khemakumara erzählte mir dass sie eine Höle bewohnen im aural gebirge, wie ich mich erinneren kann
 

Roman

November 15, 2018, 12:53:28 PM
Hallo Johann
 

Johann

November 15, 2018, 12:52:15 PM
Nyom Roman
 

Cheav Villa

November 15, 2018, 09:03:03 AM
Kuna Prah Ang  :D _/\_
 

Johann

November 15, 2018, 08:56:25 AM
Everything fine now with Nyoms settings? (Nyom Sokdina is Nyom Villas husband, right? My person is very ignorant in remembering names and relations.)

Kong Sokdina

November 15, 2018, 08:18:06 AM
Because I Kuna cant go sangham.net
after move Gmail to mail Green.

Kong Sokdina

November 15, 2018, 08:13:31 AM
Prah Ang
I kuna Villa using his Acct _/\_
 

Johann

November 15, 2018, 08:04:33 AM
Nyom Kong Sokdina.
 

Johann

November 15, 2018, 03:16:45 AM
A fruitful Sila-observance day for those obsering it today.
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 03:52:00 PM
Nyom Roman and Bhantes family will be surely happy and good that Bhante does not need to get much involved directly.
 

Cheav Villa

November 14, 2018, 03:40:07 PM
Kuna Prah Ang
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The Kathina will be holding on Sat 17 and Sun 18. I kuna will meet both of Bhante Sreng and Bhante Khemearakuma to imform all about this, incl sharing much pictures.
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 03:14:40 PM
Good if Nyom could explain Bhante Sreng how to use the online monastery. Sadhu! A topic on Bhante Khemakumaras going forth can be found here . Good also if informing and share date of Kathina at Wat Ayom, and much pictures to share
 

Cheav Villa

November 14, 2018, 02:55:43 PM
Kuna Prah Ang,
As I kuna knowing that Prah Ang Khemareakuma
was staying in Ork Yum Pagoda.
This Saturday or Sunday I kuna would join the Kathin there, but now I kuna will send some about Bhante Khemareakuma via FB Prah Ang Sreng.
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 02:37:46 PM
Nyom Roman, Nyom Villa asked if she can help in something in regard of Bhante. Best when you talk in a new topic.
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 02:36:12 PM
Nyom Roman , Bhantes twin brother and his family asked how Bhante is. They miss him much and Bhante praisworthy focus on practice.
 

Cheav Villa

November 14, 2018, 02:27:20 PM
ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_
តើខ្ញុំកូណានឹងអាចជួយអ្វីខ្លះអ្វីអំពីព្រះអង្គ​ Khemareakuma?
 

Cheav Villa

November 14, 2018, 02:15:11 PM
ជំរាបសួរលោក​ Moritz
_/\_
 

Cheav Villa

November 14, 2018, 02:12:59 PM
កូណាមិនបានដឹងទេ ព្រះអង្គ​
 

Moritz

November 14, 2018, 02:12:36 PM
ជំរាបសួរ Cheav Villa _/\_
 

Moritz

November 14, 2018, 02:12:29 PM
Auf Wiedersehen, Roman. Ich schreibe dir noch zurück per E-Mail und mache hier am besten noch ein Thema auf für später.

_/\_
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 02:03:05 PM
Does Nyom Villa know Bhante Khemakumaras twin brother?
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 02:01:43 PM
Eine Reihe der neuen Mitglieder hier, Nyom Villa, Puthy... sind öfter in Kontakt und in den Klöstern Ayum und in Phnom Penh. Mag sein, daß jemand von den Upasikas kürzlich Kontakt hatte. Gut auch wenn Nyom guten Kontakt zu anderen Laien vor Ort Pflegt, hallo sagt...
 

Roman

November 14, 2018, 02:01:26 PM
ich danke ihnen Johann und Motiz für die informationen und unterstützung.
 ich muss  jetzt weiter. ich  wünsche allen einen friedevolle tag
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 01:46:29 PM
Ein paar generelle und erklärende Worte zum Thema Unterstützen hier: If willing to help the child, the "poor" the new, give to it's master, father!
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 01:41:23 PM
Atma denkt, kann aber auch sein, daß er anderwo lernt. Einweiser ist die Person, die einen neuen Mönch einweist, und kommt einem Vater gleich. Bhante Indannano ist Bhantes Einweiser (Upajjhāya). (Hier übrigens das Thema zu "Unte
 

Roman

November 14, 2018, 01:36:35 PM
Und wie geht es Ihnen Johann? wo sind sie untergebracht?
 

Roman

November 14, 2018, 01:34:00 PM
Bhante Khemakumara ist jetzt in Takeo bei Bhante Indannanno soweit ich mitbekommen habe ja? welche bedeutung hat ein Einweiser?
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 01:31:47 PM
Siehe Mountain kuti-sāmaggī weekend, Thmo Duk, end of last Rain-month 2018. . Bhante ist, wenn im Wat (Kloster) Ayum , sicher gut umsorgt von allen Seiten.
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 01:27:18 PM
Seit seinem Mitziehen mit seinem Einweiser soweit nichts gehört und wird, denkt Atma, vertieft in der Praxis sein. Nächste Woche kommt Bhante Indannano mit seinen Schülern. Vielleicht kommt Bhante Khemakumara auch mit.
 

Roman

November 14, 2018, 01:22:13 PM
wie geht es Khemakumara..dass ist sehr oft in meinen gedanken..ihn nicht direkt fragen zu können dass ist schwierig..nicht auf dem aktuellen zu sein..denke das liegt auch daran dass mich meine famile oft fragt..roman wie gehts marcel
 

Roman

November 14, 2018, 01:16:20 PM
Ja Johann das werde ich meiner familie vorschlagen!
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 01:10:27 PM
Nyom Roman kann jederzeit seine Familie hier her einladen. Da mögen alle mehr Bezug zu dem Streben bekommen und können stets auch Fragen stellen.
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 01:06:07 PM
Da wart ein Forum nur für Nichtklösterliche eingerichtet, zu dem man mit gewisser Mitgliedschaft zugang hat. Mag sicher ein passender Rahmen sein für solches, um da entspannend beizutragen, oder Aramikabereich (Oberforum).
 

Roman

November 14, 2018, 01:05:53 PM
Khemakumara und nicht marcel die person die sich an vergangenen haftet
 

Roman

November 14, 2018, 01:04:12 PM
ehrwürdiger Johann

ja ich vermisse meinen bruder! ich berichte meiner familie von den Ereignissen..Dass is einwenig schwer für mich da familie immer über Marcel spricht und die erinnerungen hochholen wie es mal war! ich versuche ihnen auch zu erklären wie sie es mir versucht haben zu verdeutl
 

Moritz

November 14, 2018, 01:00:07 PM
Ich habe deine Mail gelesen, Roman, und gerade nach einem Thema/Unterforum hier gesucht, was genau für solche Fragen gedacht war: zu erfragen/besprechen/organisieren, was man materiell beisteuern/unterstützen kann.
 

Roman

November 14, 2018, 12:57:01 PM
hallo moritz und johann
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 12:52:02 PM
Nyom Roman vermißt seinen Bruder sehr und kommt aus den Abschiedthemen ganz und gar nicht raus.
 

Moritz

November 14, 2018, 12:47:10 PM
Vandami Bhante _/\_
 

Johann

November 14, 2018, 12:46:33 PM
Werte Herren
 

Moritz

November 14, 2018, 12:43:40 PM
Hallo Roman! _/\_
 

Johann

November 11, 2018, 01:00:38 AM
Sadhu Nyom. "May the Dhamma of the Buddha, and those following, be all beings refuge for a blessed life and beyond."
 

Mohan Gnanathilake

November 11, 2018, 12:31:09 AM
May the Dhamma be the greatest blessing in our lives today!
 

Mohan Gnanathilake

November 11, 2018, 12:30:17 AM
Möge heute das Dhamma der größte Segen in unserem Leben sein!

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