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Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 25 23:25:33
Johann: Nyom Villa

2020 Jan 24 09:58:40
Johann: As thought, incl. the Devas.

2020 Jan 24 08:29:47
Cheav Villa: He kept walking on road num 3 _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 24 08:28:40
Cheav Villa: But could not help only giving drinking water. Bhante told his lost in this area 3days ago then he walr

2020 Jan 24 08:24:26
Cheav Villa: with Dad and Srey muk kamao, going to visit His Grand ma Grand pa. Fortunately he met Bhante Khmema kumara on the main road

2020 Jan 24 08:22:10
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante this morning aroung 7.30 kana son arrived near Psar Tram kna on national road number3

2020 Jan 24 08:20:39
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 24 07:05:21
Johann: A blessed chinese new year, new moon Uposatha those who celebrate it today.

2020 Jan 23 21:53:22
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 23 21:46:43
Johann: Sokh chomreoun

2020 Jan 23 21:25:30
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 23 11:48:02
Johann: A blessed and fruitful new moon Uposatha, those observing it today

2020 Jan 22 13:30:29
Johann: May Sukha come to fulfillment, Nyom. It's well for now.

2020 Jan 22 09:39:03
Danilo: did Bhante's health get better?

2020 Jan 22 09:37:11
Danilo: Bhante Johann _/\_

2020 Jan 21 19:20:53
Johann: Meister Moritz

2020 Jan 21 19:01:10
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 21 13:09:02
Johann: Blind like ants are being believing in technic, scients and incapable to trace where and how effects take their cause.

2020 Jan 20 19:30:27
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 19 20:32:04
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 19 20:29:34
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 19 15:01:46
Johann: some moved to topic here

2020 Jan 19 10:20:11
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 19 10:03:16
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 18 08:14:54
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 18 05:57:52
Johann: A blessed and fruitful Sila day

2020 Jan 17 19:19:18
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 17 18:37:01
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2020 Jan 17 18:14:15
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 17 13:39:36
Sophorn: Many greetings to everyone,

2020 Jan 17 13:39:19
Sophorn:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 17 10:29:19
Johann: "so, now I go up and clear the area a little, make some merits, and I will not share my merits, with anybody..."  ^-^

2020 Jan 17 08:49:11
Chanroth: ធ្វើអាស្រមហើយចេញពីរសេចក្ដីល្អ ធ្វើអ្វីដើម្បីខ្លួល្អជាង

2020 Jan 17 08:45:08
Chanroth: សូមលាហើយ

2020 Jan 17 08:33:16
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 17 06:56:27
Johann: A blessed and fruitful Uposatha, those observing it today.

2020 Jan 17 06:45:45
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 17 06:44:49
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 16 23:01:31
Moritz: Mr. Lew _/\_

2020 Jan 15 14:16:00
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 15 11:15:29
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 15 11:12:01
Johann: Nyom

2020 Jan 15 10:24:02
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Jan 15 10:21:50
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 15 10:11:56
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 22:22:36
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 12 22:04:02
Moritz: _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:34:30
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:31:02
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, may happiness come to fullfillment, all

2020 Jan 12 21:27:15
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ Visitor _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:26:54
Cheav Villa:  Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:26:06
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:24:21
Moritz: Visitor _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:24:09
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:23:59
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:23:50
Johann: Good on working isn't a bad reservation. Sokh chomreoun

2020 Jan 12 21:16:12
Cheav Villa: I kana in working conditions in the ministry  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 17:24:45
Johann: How is Nyom Villa doing? Seems as if more reserved

2020 Jan 11 21:30:11
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 11 21:27:10
Johann: On the other side it's just visible for Aramika, so also fine to leave it as it is.

2020 Jan 11 21:18:06
Johann: but possible good to change it, since looking of course strange

2020 Jan 11 21:17:02
Johann: The visitor account, since enail needed, has Atmas email, yes. Nothing wrong, Nyom.

2020 Jan 11 21:10:13
Cheav Villa: Mr. Visitor is using Bhante mail on Sangham ^-^ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 11 17:28:39
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 Jan 11 17:19:29
Johann: Well then. Mudita. And to use old account is also no problem, or a new one.

2020 Jan 11 17:13:25
Visitor:  *sgift* Will return soon. will share one from lot.  :) Stay healthy. Be happy.

2020 Jan 11 17:06:13
Johann: Sure, why not? An also sure that Atma will try what ever possible that Nyom-Deva would take on existance where Dhamma can completely comprehended. My Nyom do as he feels fit and inspired.

2020 Jan 11 17:03:02
Visitor: For I am out of community and practice to be independent too -- decided when couldn't find Gem(liberated one, buddha, venerable).

2020 Jan 11 17:00:13
Visitor: If I share one of those practices, will uncle allow that? Will uncle give way to me to give as a 'Visitor'? Even when it's out of community.

2020 Jan 11 16:57:53
Johann: It's importand to see that liberation is possible, and people having gained independency are met = Savaka Sangha

2020 Jan 11 16:55:26
Johann: It's importand, aside of the deva-messangers, birth, sickness, aging death, to meet the Buddha, Arahat, Samana, so that real Saddha may arise. Books hardly can provide such "it's not just a story"

2020 Jan 11 16:50:04
Visitor: Practice leads to experience -coming slowly-2 me already. Did uncle find any Gems(Ven. Buddha) to associate with?

2020 Jan 11 16:45:42
Johann: Only by practicing and association with the Gems can Dhamma be gained. Consuming 1000 book wouldn't help

2020 Jan 11 16:43:02
Johann: What does one, seeing his decay, keep him from sharing?

2020 Jan 11 16:41:31
Johann: Giving ways to let others give is also a-maccariya

2020 Jan 11 16:39:42
Johann: And books are lasting? Sharing about oldage, sickness and death is teaching the 1 Noble truth very real, or?

2020 Jan 11 16:35:58
Visitor: What does old uncle want to offer when he is also impermanent? Dhamma-it's already in books! Experience-it will come soon to me too.

2020 Jan 11 16:30:29
Johann: If needing something, just let it be known (any language

2020 Jan 11 16:29:50
Johann: Nyom unknown

2020 Jan 11 16:28:47
Visitor:  *thumb* :-\ :( ;-) *gift*

2020 Jan 11 08:13:55
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2020 Jan 11 08:11:25
Moritz: Oh, I just wanted to write something to you, Bong Villa. But now have to go, driving taxi. ^-^ Later. _/\_ Chom reap leah

2020 Jan 11 08:05:56
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 11 07:46:49
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 10 19:57:45
Johann: Bhante

2020 Jan 10 19:37:57
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 Jan 10 16:11:19
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 10 12:07:13
Johann: Sokh chomreoun Nyom

2020 Jan 10 11:34:53
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 10 11:08:47
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 10 11:00:22
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 10 06:05:50
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 10 05:02:29
Johann: May those keeping the full moon Uposatha today, spend an auspicious time engaged in merits

2020 Jan 09 20:17:28
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 20:07:28
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 18:57:51
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Those who have confidence in the Awakened One have confidence in what is supreme; and for those with confidence in the supreme, supreme is the result.

2020 Jan 09 17:33:14
Cheav Villa:  :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 16:13:20
Johann: No problem at all.

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Author Topic: មង្គលដ៏ឧត្តម ទី ១ សេពគប់ - The first blessing/protection: association  (Read 2624 times)

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Quote from: សម្តេចសង្ឃរាជ ជួន ណាត។ Samtec Saṅgha-Rāja Joun Ṇāt
គាថាទី១

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

អសេវនា ច ពាលានំ   បណ្ឌិតានញ្ច សេវនា
āsevanā ca bālaṃ paṇḍitānañca sevanā
បូជា ច បូជនីយានំ ឯតម្មង្គលមុត្តមំ។
pūjā ca pūjanīyānaṃ etam-maṅgalam-uttamaṃ.


កិរិយាមិនសេពគប់នូវបុគ្គលពាលទាំងឡាយ១ កិរិយាសេពគប់នូវបុគ្គលជាបណ្ឌិតទាំងឡាយ១
To not associate with foolish people, to associate with wise people,

កិរិយាបូជាដល់បុគ្គល ដែលគួរបូជាទាំងឡាយ១ ទាំង៣នេះ ជាមង្គលដ៏ឧត្តម។
To sacrifice toward people worthy for sacrificing: those three are the highest blessings.
Quote from: Mangula Sutta


ការសេពគប់

គប់ពាលរែងរាលទៅរកខុស​​            គប់ប្រាជ្ញស្រីប្រុសរែងបានត្រូវ​​​
គប់មិត្តអបលក្ខណ៍រែងអាស្រូវ         ខុសត្រូវកេីតពីការសេពគប់។
គួរជ្រេីសរេីសរកជនប្រុសស្រី          តេីមានធម៌អ្វីជាប្រភព
បេីឃេីញច្បាស់ហេីយគួរសេពគប់​    រឺគួរតែឈប់កុំរវល់។
បេីតាមឱវាទព្រះសម្ពុទ្ធ                  វិសុទ្ធទ្រង់ធម៌ល្អនិមល
គួរជ្រាបថាបេីឃេីញបុគ្គល              យល់ខុសពុំគួរសេពគប់ឡេីយ។
សូវនៅម្នាក់ឯងប្រសេីរជាង​​​​​​​​             គួរជៀសគួរវាងជនតោះតេីយ
មិនកាន់តាមធម៌ជាកោះត្រេីយ         ព្រងេីយដោយយល់ថាខ្លួនត្រូវ។

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Not To Associate With The Unwise Is Most Blissful.

Fools or ignorant people not only injure themselves, but also those around them. If we associate with them, we are apt to follow their ways and so harm ourselves mentally as well as bodily, because all troubles or fear arise from ignorance or foolishness. Even if we do not practise their methods, the mre
fact of associating with them will harm our reputation; in the same way that a banana leaf is contaminated if it is used to wrap up a piece of rotten fish or meat. The leaf is dirty and smelly even after the fish or rotten meat is thrown away.

Here is a story to illustrate this:

Once, when the Bodhisat was born as a man called Akitti Pandita, the King of Devas promised to grant him any boon he asked. Akitti Pandita begged that he might never meet, see or talk with fools. The King of Devas was surprised and asked him the reason for this strange request. Replying, he explained that fools or the unwise ones i.e. people who do not understand discipline, always lead their friends to bad ways and teach them to do wrong, because they do not know the right way them selves. If discipline or good ways are spoken in their presence, they become angry, for they cannot understand, they lose their temper and quarrels arise. If discipline or good ways are spoken in their presence, they become angry, for they do not understand them. Therefore he prayed that he might never speak, meet or come in
contact with fools.


To Associate With the Wise Is Most Blissful.

By wise men we mean men who are rich with virtuousness and all good deeds and thoughts, i-e- men who bodily abstain from killing, stealing and committing adultery; in their speech they refrain from these vices, are free from craving through ignorance. To associate with these wise ones, is one of the causes of bliss. By doing so we are elevating ourselves. For instance, if we take a piece of dry banana leaf and wrap up some sweet-scented flowers, the leaf is impregnated with the scent even after the flowers are taken away. In the same way, if we associate with the wise ones, i.e. well disciplined and meritorious people, our name will be enhanced.

To Respect The Respectables Is Most Blissful.

By respectable ones, we mean The Lord Buddha, Pacceka Buddha, Ariya Savaka, father, mother and elders. They inevitably are deserving of respect and those who honour, respect and administer to their needs will always obtain bliss as illustrated by the following story:

One morning The Lord Buddha taking his bowl, was proceeding to Rajagaha to receive any dana offered by His devotees. A garland maker of King Bimbisara, Sumana by name, saw The Lord Buddha approaching. It came to his mind, that if he brought the garlands to King Bimbisara, he would only get
some monetary remuneration whereas, if he were to offer them to The Lord Buddha, who knows what great merit he might accrue. Thereupon, he took a handful of flowers and stewed them before The Lord Buddha. The flowers at once sprang up into the air and formed a canopy over his head. He threw another handful and they formed a screen to one side of The Lord Buddha. Again and again, he threw handful after handful of flowers until the flowers became a floral screen around The Lord Buddha. Everyone was astonished at the wonderful sight and The Lord Buddha smiled. The Ven. Ananda on enquiring the reason for The Lord’s smile, was informed that Sumana the garland maker, by this meritorious deed, would, after 100.000 eons, become
a Pacceka Buddha called Munissaro.

Amisa means all forms of charity. Patipati Puja, is to observe the precepts, accept the Three Refugees and meditation. By this way we can respect the respectful ones. The younger should respect the elder, the son and daughter should respect and care for their parents; the housewife should respect and
administer to the wants of her husband, father-in-law and mother-in-law.

Those who respect the respectables, in this way, will, in the present life, obtain bliss such as “Ayu” (longevity) “Vanna” (good
complexion) “Sukha” (happiness) “Bala” (good health and strength). Not only will they obtain bliss in the present life, but also in the next.
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Nina Van Gorkum , over 90 today and still teaching ( Upasika Nina ) , a student of Sujin Boriharnwanaket (Thai female Abhidhamma teacher), like Buddh Sovung, aside of the social touch and "we" focuss, the se of "we" in talk to cause affection and pride, has written useful word in her The Greatest Blessings as well on the topic, using it also as main issue in her introducion.

This pride factor by "we" or group identification is btw. one large danger for people reading about Kalyanamitta and can one easily get total imprisoned on the wrong side. So careful here. Actually knowing of who is a person of integrity is only possible for Noble Ones nd worrldlings are no able but total depend on their "luck", Nissaya, to select the right side.

When using "we" in talks people are easy to manipulate by their group-pride. So if listening to talks using "we", one should see such as possible danger and replace it by "a what ever person", and prove simply for oneself to get to a good conclusion.

People normaly tend to seek out for friends, supporters and who does that much increases simply his/her enemies and counterparts. A good friend stays without taking side to a person but by telling simply what is good or not, right and wrong, if between two parts.
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Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

71. "Bhikkhus, I do not know anything else that arouses non arisen merit [1] and fades arisen demerit[2] as good companionship. Good companions arouse non arisen merit and fades arisen demerit. This is the first.

72. "Bhikkhus, I do not know anything else that arouses non arisen demerit and fades arisen merit as evil companionship. Evil companions arouse non-arisen demerit and fades arisen merit. This is the second.

...

76. "Bhikkhus, the misery from the decrease of relations is nothing in comparison to the decrease of wisdom. Bhikkhus, of decreases the decrease in wisdom is miserable. This is the sixth.

77. "Bhikkhus, the increase of relations is nothing in comparison to increase of wisdom. Therefore you should train, we will increase in wisdom. This is the seventh.
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Quote from: Khmer poem
ការសេពគប់
Association

គប់ពាលរែងរាលទៅរកខុស​​            គប់ប្រាជ្ញស្រីប្រុសរែងបានត្រូវ​​​
Together with fools you are bound for go after wrong     together with female and male wise, you gain right.

គប់មិត្តអបលក្ខណ៍រែងអាស្រូវ         ខុសត្រូវកេីតពីការសេពគប់។
Together with bad, unfortunate friend to disgrace you tend     right and wrong comes from association.

គួរជ្រេីសរេីសរកជនប្រុសស្រី          តេីមានធម៌អ្វីជាប្រភព
Proper to go after seeking man or woman     who owns what ever Dhamma (attribute) of original source.

បេីឃេីញច្បាស់ហេីយគួរសេពគប់​    រឺគួរតែឈប់កុំរវល់។
When seeing clear already, proper to associate     or proper to stop staying involved

បេីតាមឱវាទព្រះសម្ពុទ្ធ                  វិសុទ្ធទ្រង់ធម៌ល្អនិមល
When following the advices of the Sublime Buddha     purified, his good Dhamma, without doubt,

គួរជ្រាបថាបេីឃេីញបុគ្គល              យល់ខុសពុំគួរសេពគប់ឡេីយ។
Good to be informed, discriminate people     ,understanding wrong, not at all proper to associate with.

សូវនៅម្នាក់ឯងប្រសេីរជាង​​​​​​​​             គួរជៀសគួរវាងជនតោះតេីយ
Look after one better to befriending    proper to avoid, proper to swerve people of indifferent manner,

មិនកាន់តាមធម៌ជាកោះត្រេីយ         ព្រងេីយដោយយល់ថាខ្លួនត្រូវ។
who do not hold on the Dhamma, threefold-island,    (which is) leading free of trouble, till understanding that you are right.

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