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2019 May 24 14:13:29
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 May 24 13:28:52
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 24 05:23:33
Johann: Venerable

2019 May 24 05:22:57
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Johann

2019 May 24 02:08:29
Johann: Nyom Moritz, Nyom Villa.

2019 May 24 01:55:56
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 24 01:54:14
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2019 May 24 01:49:43
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 24 01:06:04
Johann: Venerable Ariyadhammika  _/\_

2019 May 20 04:14:26
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 20 01:31:27
Johann:  _/\_ Bhante Indannano

2019 May 19 11:28:39
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 May 19 11:27:48
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 18 23:55:08
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 18 10:34:49
amanaki: Thank you Johann  _/\_

2019 May 18 09:59:33
Johann: Nyom Amanaki. Mudita that you may have possible found what searched for on a special day.

2019 May 18 09:24:56
Maria:  _/\_

2019 May 18 09:24:35
Maria: werter Bhante!

2019 May 18 09:22:43
Johann: Nyom Mizi

2019 May 18 09:21:31
Johann: Nyom Sophorn, Nyom Villa... may all here but also there rejoice in own and others goodness.

2019 May 18 05:03:47
Cheav Villa: សាធុ​សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 18 02:16:49
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 14 07:51:30
Vithou:  _/\_

2019 May 14 05:40:54
Johann: As long as not using telefon while riding. Sokh chomreoun, Nyom.

2019 May 13 18:38:46
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ (sitting in Taxi)

2019 May 12 15:44:32
Johann: But better ask Nyom Chanroth, since Atma does not walk that far these days.

2019 May 12 15:04:01
Johann: not teally, Nyom Vithou. Still less water in the streams here. Some still dry. Needs a while down from the mountains and not that much rain yet.

2019 May 12 14:54:37
Vithou: how is the road Bhante? Is it float at the mountain leg?

2019 May 12 14:51:59
Vithou:   _/\_

2019 May 12 14:40:43
Johann: Nyom Vithou. Nothing special. Yes, rain is present every afternoon since some days.

2019 May 12 14:38:33
Vithou: Bhante, how is everything at Asrum? Is it raining everyday?

2019 May 12 07:05:30
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 12 03:58:19
Johann: a joyful day in merits on this Sila-day

2019 May 11 17:04:10
Cheav Villa:  :) _/\_

2019 May 11 16:16:56
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2019 May 11 05:35:39
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 11 00:52:44
Johann: an meritful Uposatha, those keeping it today

2019 May 10 17:14:43
Moritz: Chom reap leah, I am going to work. _/\_

2019 May 10 17:09:07
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 May 10 17:07:14
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 10 16:19:14
Moritz: Chom reap sour, bong Villa _/\_

2019 May 07 19:12:10
Johann: Nyom Vithou. Just some hours ago, thought of him.

2019 May 05 04:26:53
Chanroth:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 04 11:41:08
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 04 10:27:38
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 May 03 10:08:09
Khemakumara: Sadhu, sadhu, sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 03 01:17:53
Johann: A meritful new moon Uposatha those celebrating it today.

2019 May 03 01:16:05
Johann: Talk box is buggy and lines love to jump. Better not editing.

2019 May 03 01:14:19
Johann: U Chanroth: "ថ្ងៃនេះខ្ញុំបាទ បានទទួលនៅសម្ភារៈមួយចំនួន សម្រាប់កសាងអាស្រមថ្មទូកសូមជូនបុណ្យដល់ពុទ្ធបរិសទ័ទាំងអស់គ

2019 May 02 15:15:58
Cheav Villa:   <.I.> _/\_

2019 May 02 15:15:17
Cheav Villa: Sorry because of kh font doesn't run well on my phone. Kana go to edit  to see the right  shout but  was wrong by deleting Pou  Chanroth 's  shout

2019 May 02 15:01:04
Cheav Villa: Mudita  :) _/\_

2019 May 02 13:47:17
Moritz: Anumodana puñña kusala! _/\_

2019 May 01 14:49:38
Johann: Now some monks are so close to many, that they can be visited even by feet.

2019 May 01 06:27:25
Johann: Thats accoss the whole city and hot (but cloudy  :) ) Best wishes and greatings.

2019 May 01 06:22:36
Cheav Villa: Get lost in the jungle of Phnom Penh from 2pm till 6pm

2019 May 01 05:40:26
Cheav Villa: Bhante Khemakumara arrived at Wat Sophea Khun in late evening  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 29 09:19:56
Johann: Meister Moritz

2019 Apr 29 08:51:27
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Apr 29 03:07:40
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_ I am going to sleep.

2019 Apr 29 02:59:19
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Apr 29 02:41:01
Moritz: _/\_ Bong Villa

2019 Apr 29 01:02:45
Johann: let's see wheter the rain has swept away the new floor ...

2019 Apr 28 13:58:19
Cheav Villa: First time of Heavy rain in Phnom Penh  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 28 10:33:14
Cheav Villa: សាធុ​សាធុ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 28 10:21:50
Johann: Oh, rain.

2019 Apr 28 08:46:02
Johann: Pleasing soft weather, yes  :)

2019 Apr 28 08:45:28
Johann: Atma rejoices with the may who possible are able to see a death man walking toward the deathless, and have even occation for a lot of spontan merits.

2019 Apr 28 07:31:59
Cheav Villa: May​ Bhante be well  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_  The sky has been cloudy since 10:30am

2019 Apr 28 03:02:15
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 May Bhante Khemakumara walk(nimun) safely. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 27 20:51:41
Johann:  :)

2019 Apr 27 20:51:11
Johann: may it be cloudy (in the hot time) so that feet may be well

2019 Apr 27 17:53:19
Moritz: May Bhante travel safely. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 27 16:38:40
Cheav Villa: May​ the Mighty Devas protected Bhante Khemakumara along the path to Wat Sophea Khun  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 27 16:03:29
Cheav Villa: ខ្ញុំ​កូណាបាន លឺថា ព្រះអង្គ​ Kemakumara នឹង​និមន្ត ចេញពី វត្ត​អកយំ​ នៅថ្ងៃស្អែក

2019 Apr 27 16:01:32
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 27 14:28:42
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Apr 27 06:55:13
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Apr 27 06:54:35
Cheav Villa:   _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 27 06:31:42
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Apr 27 06:09:34
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Apr 27 05:42:54
Moritz: _/\_

2019 Apr 27 00:54:04
Johann: A blessed and meritful halfmoon Sila-day

2019 Apr 25 07:32:44
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻អរព្រះគុណ ព្រះអង្គ

2019 Apr 25 04:42:51
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, Nyom. (May well-being come to fullfillment.)

2019 Apr 25 02:30:46
Ieng Puthy: តេីលោកRoman មានបំណងទៅវត្តអកយំនៅថ្ងៃណាដែរ?ព្រះអង្គ🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Apr 25 02:29:26
Ieng Puthy: ករុណានិង បងសុភឿន នឹងជូនលោកRoman ទៅវត្តអកយំបាន

2019 Apr 25 02:28:00
Ieng Puthy: ករុណានិង បង សុភឿន នឹងជួយស

2019 Apr 25 02:27:00
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុព្រះអង្គ Vandami Bhante

2019 Apr 24 17:56:05
Cheav Villa: កូណា សរសេរពួកយើង​ គឺជំនួសមុខ​ បងពុទ្ធីនិងសុភឿន  _/\_

2019 Apr 24 17:54:42
Cheav Villa: បង​ពុទ្ធី បានអោយកូណាសួរអំពីពេលវេលា​ ដែលលោកRoman នឹងទៅអកយំ _/\_

2019 Apr 24 17:52:47
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_  កូណាបាន ប្រាប់បងពុទ្ធី និង​សុ​ភឿន ប្រសិនបើគាត់អាចជួយបាន ព្រោះកូណាមិនមានសេរីភាពច្រើនដូចពួកគាត់

2019 Apr 24 17:01:34
Johann: Modern (ab)art of conversation and old patient culture...  :) great training only serious take on and rushing hide on messanger, fb, or in the ocean of Maras internet. Mudita.  :)

2019 Apr 23 13:36:18
Cheav Villa: Kana :D _/\_

2019 Apr 23 13:24:57
Johann: ? But light is always good. Oh, maybe the honey bee candles...: Atma told Upasika Sophorn to take them with her to share, since the mices would eat them away here. Mudita

2019 Apr 23 12:52:51
Cheav Villa: Kana Preah Ang  _/\_ Vithou told kana that Bhante sending us a pair of candles all through Bang Sophorn  :D _/\_

2019 Apr 23 12:06:15
Johann: Nyom Villa. Atma does not understand all circumstances but much mudita and appreciantion with sharing merits with each other, taking each other along good.

2019 Apr 23 11:04:23
Cheav Villa: កូណា ទើបបានដំណឹងពី Vithou ថាព្រះអង្គផ្ញើទានមួយគូមក តាមរយៈ​បងសុភ័ណ​ ខ្ញុំកូណា​សូម​អរព្រះគុណ​  :) _/\_

2019 Apr 23 11:02:19
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

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[ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« on: February 16, 2019, 03:04:10 PM »

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Dieses neue Thema (bzw. diese/r Beitrag/e) wurde  aus abgetrennten Beiträgen, ursprünglich in [ATI.eu] various errors , hinzugefügt. Für ev. ergänzende Informationen zur sehen Sie bitte das Ursprugsthema ein. Anumodana!

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Again full... it might have to do with the big amount of edits, possible storing all changes.

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sangham.net   5596.05 MB   7000 MB   7001 MB   5596.05 MB 7000 MB
zugangzureinsicht.org   687.72 MB   800 MB   801 MB   687.72 MB 800 MB
accesstoinsight.eu   12198.93 MB   12200 MB   12201 MB

Now reduced to 90 days from 366 store might possible help for now. Wondered why a possible 1,5 GB volume needs 12 GB. Lets see.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2019, 01:54:07 AM »
Reducing the time as made possible does not help. Atma asked also in DW-forum . Does Nyom Moritz have a not to much of his time using idea?
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2019, 04:46:20 AM »
It seems as if found the reason: Older Versiins

With every change the whole page is stored. Given 6300 pages+ and hundreds of changes each, explains why 1GB content grows fast to 12 GB.

The question is now how to solve it, given that there would be possible hundred-thousands of files manual to delete. Build up totally anew and delete them in attic all?

In the case it works that way and gives no errors, how to handle it in the future not to happen or give settings like "the oldest and the last month" of old versions.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2019, 11:25:08 AM »
A "cronjob", like found in giving into by Mr. Michael would be a solution , possible, but Atma fears to have to less knowledge to do not damage things by maintenance .

A programmer could possible add not to delete the oldest as well.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2019, 12:02:28 PM »
Tried to download the over 500.000 files, but that may require days (25.000 solved). So possible delete manual folder for folder might be easier to keep the oldest versions in en: de: pt: zze origin. -> not so, it takes a huge of time, an hour for one folder.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2019, 12:33:32 PM »
Vandami Bhante _/\_

Sorry, I was very busy lately. But it looks like the reason was found. Good to know what is happening to all this disk space and how to keep more of it available for use.
I am now making a backup of ATI.eu and will try to make a script for the cleanup cronjob later in the evening.

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Tried to download the over 500.000 files, but that may require days (25.000 solved). So possible delete manual folder for folder might be easier to keep the oldest versions in en: de: pt: zze origin. -> not so, it takes a huge of time, an hour for one folder.

I have already completed the backup with the Greensta backup function and am downloading it now. So the current state of the Wiki should be safe.

Deleting attic files with a cronjob script directly on the server later should run fast.

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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2019, 12:42:21 PM »
Sadhu!
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2019, 12:37:31 AM »
Cleanup cronjob is now running every hour.
It is set up to delete nothing which is newer than 30 days, and also to always keep at least the first three and the last three versions.
At the moment only cleaning up in "data/attic", but there are other places like "data/media_attic" (not much there at the moment), the cache (some gigabytes) and maybe more. Just not quite sure yet about how everything else works, not wanting to delete too much. So there is still room for improvement.
Disk space usage for accesstoinsight.eu is now shown as 8.02 Gigabyte. Not sure how much it was before.

_/\_

*  Now leaving for tonight. May all the deleted files find a fortunate rebirth, if not release into nibbana. ^-^
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2019, 01:04:35 AM »
Sadhu. Sounds great.

It was at 11.2GB and is still high because made a lot of edits this days. Once general edits are done, it will be down to 2 or 4 GB.

In reagard of media, Atma tries o ask.

-> Attic-media Daten und cache gleich behandelbar wie für pages?

Possible good if making a page maintenance so that adjustments could be easier made by others later and storage is understood.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2019, 01:26:36 AM »
Just to inform, it wouldn't keep the first three but some at the beginning, see http://accesstoinsight.eu/de/tipitaka/sut/an/an04/an04.036.than?do=revisions&first=80 for example.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2019, 12:28:03 PM »
Mr. LMS has offert some manual solutions with plugins, possible good in addition to a good cronjob general solution:

- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:cleanup
- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:clearhistory

and told that media attic can be seen similar.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2019, 12:42:22 PM »
And Mr. Michael points on setting to avoide media-revison saving general, which seems to be proper in this wikis case. No need to store them, better to give another name if keeping old is proper.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2019, 01:27:36 PM »
Just to inform, it wouldn't keep the first three but some at the beginning, see http://accesstoinsight.eu/de/tipitaka/sut/an/an04/an04.036.than?do=revisions&first=80 for example.
Oops. The reason was that I had assumed without checking that files would be sorted by filename when reading directories in PHP. So the first and last 3 of a randomized list of revisions were kept for each file.

Now that is fixed. If necessary, the old revisions could still be restored from the backup if one can download the file. But it seems that Greensta is still having the same old problems with not being able to download large backup files (download stopping after 1 gigabyte). I have written an email to Greensta to inform about the problem.

A description of the cleanup process is now written down here: http://accesstoinsight.eu/en/tech/maintenance

Mr. LMS has offert some manual solutions with plugins, possible good in addition to a good cronjob general solution:

- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:cleanup
- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:clearhistory

and told that media attic can be seen similar.

Good to know. Maybe the Cleanup plugin is a cleaner overall solution, already well-maintained by others. But with the cronjob now everything seems to be running fine, and it is easier to maintain one's own custom logic of what to clean up (i.e. keep first and last three at the moment).
I will try to add media attic and cache cleanup soon.
And Mr. Michael points on setting to avoide media-revison saving general, which seems to be proper in this wikis case. No need to store them, better to give another name if keeping old is proper.

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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2019, 02:01:40 PM »
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If necessary, the old revisions could still be restored from the backup if one can download the file. But it seems that Greensta is still having the same old problems with not being able to download large backup files (download stopping after 1 gigabyte). I have written an email to Greensta to inform about the problem.
My person does not think it is necessary to restore, still huge general modifications. How ever, if there is a backup available for some times, in cases, that's sure fine.
A description of the cleanup process is now written down here: http://accesstoinsight.eu/en/tech/maintenance
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...Good to know. Maybe the Cleanup plugin is a cleaner overall solution, already well-maintained by others. But with the cronjob now everything seems to be running fine, and it is easier to maintain one's own custom logic of what to clean up (i.e. keep first and last three at the moment).
I will try to add media attic and cache cleanup soon.
Sadhu!
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2019, 05:11:33 AM »
Maybe a function that deletes older Versions made with in a timeframe of say 24h, or 48h as well, would be good, since the versions-producing replacment sessions are surely nevertheless able to fill the webspace within one or to days again.
It then might even not require to delete all older after the busy times at the beginning.
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