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2019 Jul 19 17:04:51
Johann: Master Moritz. Much joy with good undertakings.

2019 Jul 19 17:01:59
Moritz: and off to work _/\_

2019 Jul 19 17:01:42
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Jul 16 09:09:25
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ sadhu

2019 Jul 16 02:34:51
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jul 16 01:43:24
Johann: A meritful and joyful Fullmoo Uposatha obervance today!

2019 Jul 10 05:42:38
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Sadhu

2019 Jul 10 02:06:05
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jul 10 02:02:27
Johann: May all spend a blessed Sila-day today, engaging much in good deeds.

2019 Jul 09 11:04:55
Johann: A meritful rest of Sila-day, those who observe it today.

2019 Jul 07 06:03:30
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jul 06 14:38:48
Mohan Gnanathilake: Dear The Most Reverend Samanera Johann, Dhamma Greetings from Sri Lanka!

2019 Jul 06 14:38:26
Mohan Gnanathilake: Sehr ehrwürdiger Samanera Johann, Dhamma Grüße an Sie aus Sri Lanka!                                                                                                                                 

2019 Jul 06 14:11:36
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2019 Jul 06 13:15:40
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jul 06 13:03:25
Johann: Kana will try to send the other half of bag as well as "tnam luvin".

2019 Jul 06 12:57:40
Johann: Half the bag, 7 pills, leaded fast to cure.

2019 Jul 06 12:56:05
Johann: Kana wondered about eye and head ache, later reading that viruse, if on head, easy can damage both.

2019 Jul 06 12:54:26
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2019 Jul 06 12:29:25
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ good state of mind.  The infection of the skin isn't already healed but getting better day by day.

2019 Jul 06 12:18:09
Johann: Bhante. Already good healthy again?

2019 Jul 06 12:12:21
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 Jul 06 12:11:55
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Johann

2019 Jul 06 11:46:47
Khemakumara: Nyom Vinz

2019 Jul 06 06:21:33
Johann: Sokh chomreoun Nyom

2019 Jul 06 04:29:33
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jul 05 12:27:20
Johann: Sadhu

2019 Jul 05 07:51:59
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jul 05 06:52:40
Khemakumara: Today isn't a"full moon"uposatha,  but nevertheless it can be also a"full heart"day of observance and sila.

2019 Jul 04 16:42:58
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2019 Jul 04 16:22:16
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Jul 02 04:43:47
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Sadhu, Sadhu

2019 Jul 02 02:04:50
Johann: A blessed and meritful new-moon Uposatha

2019 Jul 01 06:43:03
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jul 01 04:09:06
Johann: May those undertaking the Uposatha today spend the new-moon joyfull with much merits.

2019 Jun 26 01:07:18
Johann: Good to hear

2019 Jun 25 16:22:42
Cheav Villa: ជំរាបសួរបងស្រី Norum  :D _/\_

2019 Jun 25 12:48:21
Vithou:  _/\_

2019 Jun 25 05:02:43
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 25 01:34:59
Johann: May all spend a blessed meritful Sila observing day today

2019 Jun 25 01:34:36
Johann: May all spend a blessed meritful Sila observing day today

2019 Jun 25 01:34:17
Johann: May all spend a blessed meritful Sila observing day today

2019 Jun 23 19:01:54
Vithou:  _/\_

2019 Jun 17 10:19:29
Johann: Bhante Khemakumara. Everything fine, health? Can he walk like before already?

2019 Jun 17 06:34:44
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu

2019 Jun 17 03:56:38
Cheav Villa: សាធុ សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 17 00:46:14
Khemakumara: May all have a joy-full and fruit-full  Uposatha full-moon day

2019 Jun 15 17:53:43
Cheav Villa: កូណាព្រះអង្គទាំងអស់គ្នាសុខទុក្ខធម្មតា ទាំងសុខភាពឈឺ ជា មិនទៀងទាត់  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ ស្រីមុខក្រញ៉ូវ គាត់មានសុខភាពល្អជា

2019 Jun 15 13:03:21
Johann: All health?

2019 Jun 15 13:02:56
Johann: Nyom Muk-kamau?

2019 Jun 15 13:01:36
Johann: And own well-being, family?

2019 Jun 15 12:48:22
Johann: Maybe all busy like most at this times.

2019 Jun 15 12:44:14
Cheav Villa: បងពុទ្ធី និងវិធូរ ខ្ញុំកូណាមិនបានជួបគ្នា និងទាក់ទងគ្នាទេ ប៉ុន្មានខែចុងក្រោយនេះ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 15 12:42:16
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 15 04:21:08
Johann: Nyom Villa. All fine? Nyoms fellows, like Nyom Buddhi... havn't been seen since longer. All fine with friends and family?

2019 Jun 10 04:05:23
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 10 01:47:04
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu

2019 Jun 10 01:28:53
Khemakumara: May all have a fruitful waxing moon Uposatha!

2019 Jun 10 01:26:44
Khemakumara: Silena sugatiṁ yanti. Through virtue they go to a good destination.  Silena bhoga-sampadā.  Through virtue is wealth attained.  Silena nibbutiṁ yanti. Through virtue they go to Unbinding.  Tasmā silaṁ visodhaye. Therefore we should purify our virtue.

2019 Jun 06 14:52:24
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ kana,  Bhante. The wound heals fast and good.

2019 Jun 06 13:46:02
Johann: Bhante is fine, at least better?

2019 Jun 05 11:53:33
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 05 05:19:35
Johann: "N'atthi santi param sukham", there is no peace equal the hail of release

2019 Jun 04 10:25:51
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Jun 04 05:13:11
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 02 12:03:42
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Jun 02 00:29:09
Johann: May all enjoy the bliss of the fruitful observing of the Uposatha

2019 May 31 14:40:02
Cheav Villa: សាធុ​ សាធុ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 31 13:47:09
Johann: Sadhu and Anumodana Nyom.

2019 May 31 12:40:14
Cheav Villa: សូមអោយព្រះអង្គឆាប់ជាសះស្បើយ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 31 12:39:05
Cheav Villa: ព្រះអង្គKhemakumara ត្រូវបានពុទ្ធបរិស័ទនិមន្តទៅគ្លីនីកនៅជិតវត្តកាលពីម៉ោង​2 និងបានវះកាត់ព្យាបាល រួចត្រឡប់ទៅវត្ត

2019 May 31 12:36:20
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំ​ ព្រះ​អង្គ​ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 29 09:03:01
Johann: Had overseen Bhante here. Bhante Ariyadhammika  _/\_

2019 May 29 02:19:33
Khemakumara: Bhante Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 28 04:18:48
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 27 10:03:55
Johann: Much in German, Nyom, currently. Atma will try to translate as much as possible, step by step.

2019 May 26 03:04:21
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 26 03:04:06
Cheav Villa: សាធុ​

2019 May 26 01:02:17
Johann: Sadhu

2019 May 26 00:44:22
Khemakumara: May all have a meritful Uposatha day. Meeting some good friends (kalyanamitta) and som(e) sil(a) សំម សីល!

2019 May 24 14:13:29
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 May 24 13:28:52
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 24 05:23:33
Johann: Venerable

2019 May 24 05:22:57
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Johann

2019 May 24 02:08:29
Johann: Nyom Moritz, Nyom Villa.

2019 May 24 01:55:56
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 24 01:54:14
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2019 May 24 01:49:43
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 24 01:06:04
Johann: Venerable Ariyadhammika  _/\_

2019 May 20 04:14:26
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 20 01:31:27
Johann:  _/\_ Bhante Indannano

2019 May 19 11:28:39
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 May 19 11:27:48
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 18 23:55:08
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 18 10:34:49
amanaki: Thank you Johann  _/\_

2019 May 18 09:59:33
Johann: Nyom Amanaki. Mudita that you may have possible found what searched for on a special day.

2019 May 18 09:24:56
Maria:  _/\_

2019 May 18 09:24:35
Maria: werter Bhante!

2019 May 18 09:22:43
Johann: Nyom Mizi

2019 May 18 09:21:31
Johann: Nyom Sophorn, Nyom Villa... may all here but also there rejoice in own and others goodness.

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[ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« on: February 16, 2019, 03:04:10 PM »

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Dieses neue Thema (bzw. diese/r Beitrag/e) wurde  aus abgetrennten Beiträgen, ursprünglich in [ATI.eu] various errors , hinzugefügt. Für ev. ergänzende Informationen zur sehen Sie bitte das Ursprugsthema ein. Anumodana!

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Again full... it might have to do with the big amount of edits, possible storing all changes.

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sangham.net   5596.05 MB   7000 MB   7001 MB   5596.05 MB 7000 MB
zugangzureinsicht.org   687.72 MB   800 MB   801 MB   687.72 MB 800 MB
accesstoinsight.eu   12198.93 MB   12200 MB   12201 MB

Now reduced to 90 days from 366 store might possible help for now. Wondered why a possible 1,5 GB volume needs 12 GB. Lets see.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2019, 01:54:07 AM »
Reducing the time as made possible does not help. Atma asked also in DW-forum . Does Nyom Moritz have a not to much of his time using idea?
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2019, 04:46:20 AM »
It seems as if found the reason: Older Versiins

With every change the whole page is stored. Given 6300 pages+ and hundreds of changes each, explains why 1GB content grows fast to 12 GB.

The question is now how to solve it, given that there would be possible hundred-thousands of files manual to delete. Build up totally anew and delete them in attic all?

In the case it works that way and gives no errors, how to handle it in the future not to happen or give settings like "the oldest and the last month" of old versions.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2019, 11:25:08 AM »
A "cronjob", like found in giving into by Mr. Michael would be a solution , possible, but Atma fears to have to less knowledge to do not damage things by maintenance .

A programmer could possible add not to delete the oldest as well.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2019, 12:02:28 PM »
Tried to download the over 500.000 files, but that may require days (25.000 solved). So possible delete manual folder for folder might be easier to keep the oldest versions in en: de: pt: zze origin. -> not so, it takes a huge of time, an hour for one folder.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2019, 12:33:32 PM »
Vandami Bhante _/\_

Sorry, I was very busy lately. But it looks like the reason was found. Good to know what is happening to all this disk space and how to keep more of it available for use.
I am now making a backup of ATI.eu and will try to make a script for the cleanup cronjob later in the evening.

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Tried to download the over 500.000 files, but that may require days (25.000 solved). So possible delete manual folder for folder might be easier to keep the oldest versions in en: de: pt: zze origin. -> not so, it takes a huge of time, an hour for one folder.

I have already completed the backup with the Greensta backup function and am downloading it now. So the current state of the Wiki should be safe.

Deleting attic files with a cronjob script directly on the server later should run fast.

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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2019, 12:42:21 PM »
Sadhu!
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2019, 12:37:31 AM »
Cleanup cronjob is now running every hour.
It is set up to delete nothing which is newer than 30 days, and also to always keep at least the first three and the last three versions.
At the moment only cleaning up in "data/attic", but there are other places like "data/media_attic" (not much there at the moment), the cache (some gigabytes) and maybe more. Just not quite sure yet about how everything else works, not wanting to delete too much. So there is still room for improvement.
Disk space usage for accesstoinsight.eu is now shown as 8.02 Gigabyte. Not sure how much it was before.

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*  Now leaving for tonight. May all the deleted files find a fortunate rebirth, if not release into nibbana. ^-^
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2019, 01:04:35 AM »
Sadhu. Sounds great.

It was at 11.2GB and is still high because made a lot of edits this days. Once general edits are done, it will be down to 2 or 4 GB.

In reagard of media, Atma tries o ask.

-> Attic-media Daten und cache gleich behandelbar wie für pages?

Possible good if making a page maintenance so that adjustments could be easier made by others later and storage is understood.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2019, 01:26:36 AM »
Just to inform, it wouldn't keep the first three but some at the beginning, see http://accesstoinsight.eu/de/tipitaka/sut/an/an04/an04.036.than?do=revisions&first=80 for example.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2019, 12:28:03 PM »
Mr. LMS has offert some manual solutions with plugins, possible good in addition to a good cronjob general solution:

- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:cleanup
- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:clearhistory

and told that media attic can be seen similar.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2019, 12:42:22 PM »
And Mr. Michael points on setting to avoide media-revison saving general, which seems to be proper in this wikis case. No need to store them, better to give another name if keeping old is proper.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2019, 01:27:36 PM »
Just to inform, it wouldn't keep the first three but some at the beginning, see http://accesstoinsight.eu/de/tipitaka/sut/an/an04/an04.036.than?do=revisions&first=80 for example.
Oops. The reason was that I had assumed without checking that files would be sorted by filename when reading directories in PHP. So the first and last 3 of a randomized list of revisions were kept for each file.

Now that is fixed. If necessary, the old revisions could still be restored from the backup if one can download the file. But it seems that Greensta is still having the same old problems with not being able to download large backup files (download stopping after 1 gigabyte). I have written an email to Greensta to inform about the problem.

A description of the cleanup process is now written down here: http://accesstoinsight.eu/en/tech/maintenance

Mr. LMS has offert some manual solutions with plugins, possible good in addition to a good cronjob general solution:

- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:cleanup
- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:clearhistory

and told that media attic can be seen similar.

Good to know. Maybe the Cleanup plugin is a cleaner overall solution, already well-maintained by others. But with the cronjob now everything seems to be running fine, and it is easier to maintain one's own custom logic of what to clean up (i.e. keep first and last three at the moment).
I will try to add media attic and cache cleanup soon.
And Mr. Michael points on setting to avoide media-revison saving general, which seems to be proper in this wikis case. No need to store them, better to give another name if keeping old is proper.

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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2019, 02:01:40 PM »
Sadhu!
If necessary, the old revisions could still be restored from the backup if one can download the file. But it seems that Greensta is still having the same old problems with not being able to download large backup files (download stopping after 1 gigabyte). I have written an email to Greensta to inform about the problem.
My person does not think it is necessary to restore, still huge general modifications. How ever, if there is a backup available for some times, in cases, that's sure fine.
A description of the cleanup process is now written down here: http://accesstoinsight.eu/en/tech/maintenance
Sadhu!
...Good to know. Maybe the Cleanup plugin is a cleaner overall solution, already well-maintained by others. But with the cronjob now everything seems to be running fine, and it is easier to maintain one's own custom logic of what to clean up (i.e. keep first and last three at the moment).
I will try to add media attic and cache cleanup soon.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2019, 05:11:33 AM »
Maybe a function that deletes older Versions made with in a timeframe of say 24h, or 48h as well, would be good, since the versions-producing replacment sessions are surely nevertheless able to fill the webspace within one or to days again.
It then might even not require to delete all older after the busy times at the beginning.
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