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2019 Sep 19 14:36:44
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2019 Sep 19 14:35:55
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2019 Sep 19 09:58:15
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2019 Sep 18 16:44:10
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2019 Sep 18 04:10:57
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2019 Sep 18 02:48:47
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2019 Sep 18 02:47:31
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2019 Sep 18 02:47:15
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2019 Sep 18 01:59:53
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2019 Sep 18 01:59:44
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2019 Sep 18 01:41:47
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2019 Sep 18 01:30:08
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2019 Sep 14 01:20:37
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2019 Sep 13 16:07:47
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2019 Sep 13 16:06:36
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2019 Sep 13 15:53:17
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Varado _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 13 15:51:32
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2019 Sep 13 15:50:03
Cheav Villa: Master Morit  :) _/\_

2019 Sep 13 15:47:31
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2019 Sep 13 00:35:39
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2019 Sep 12 20:36:10
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2019 Sep 12 20:33:57
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2019 Sep 12 20:33:01
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2019 Sep 12 17:35:22
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2019 Sep 12 16:16:22
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2019 Sep 12 16:16:03
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2019 Sep 12 10:25:12
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2019 Sep 12 09:02:52
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2019 Sep 12 08:26:31
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2019 Sep 09 13:03:42
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2019 Sep 07 11:49:16
Vithou:  _/\_

2019 Sep 07 09:12:43
Chanroth:  :( :( :(

2019 Sep 07 09:11:31
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2019 Sep 07 09:11:27
Chanroth:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 07 01:50:59
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2019 Sep 07 00:53:49
Johann: A meritful Uposatha observance those who undertake it today.

2019 Sep 06 11:58:54
Johann:  _/\_ Bhante. Might have been an auto mail (and not so importand). He could share it in his kuti, if wishing.

2019 Sep 06 11:53:04
Yocakkhuma: There was an email in German I didn't get the meaning..?!

2019 Sep 06 11:49:40
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2019 Sep 06 08:29:17
Ieng Puthy: ករុណា ព្រះអង្គ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 08:08:29
Johann: Atma's health is dhammata, nothing special, Nyom.

2019 Sep 06 08:06:42
Johann: Nyom Buddhi. Mudita that she could access again.

2019 Sep 06 07:41:15
Ieng Puthy:  _/\_How is Bhante health?

2019 Sep 06 07:35:57
Ieng Puthy:  _/\_ អរព្រះគុណ ព្រះអង្គ Vandami Bhante

2019 Sep 06 07:32:24
Ieng Puthy: Chum Reap Sour   _/\_Mr Moritz

2019 Sep 06 07:30:55
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាសូមថ្វាយបង្គំុ Khemakumara Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 07:21:17
Ieng Puthy: Vandami Bhante  _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 06:20:55
Johann: mudita

2019 Sep 06 06:01:57
Cheav Villa: Kana Prah Ang, She forgot username' password. And kana had sent her already about the info. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 05:51:33
Johann: Did Nyom get the email? If any question, she may not hesitate to raise.

2019 Sep 06 04:55:56
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 04:49:44
Johann: It's like practicing Jhana. Importand to remember how to enter, how to leave.

2019 Sep 06 04:47:12
Johann: Ieng Puthy  :) Atma had send Nyom an email for her access datas.

2019 Sep 06 04:39:34
Cheav Villa: She forgot username's password _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 04:35:33
Cheav Villa: Kana had sent her email and password already, she could not accessible _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 04:18:55
Johann: Good. Atma thinks it's easier to make it new and then send an email to Nyom Villa.

2019 Sep 06 04:15:27
Johann: but Atma had send Nyom a PM once, right? Maybe, if Nyom gave her access, she can look into her PM's. again.

2019 Sep 06 04:13:41
Cheav Villa: Kana  _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2019 Sep 06 04:11:05
Johann: She can either use the link "forgot passwort" and will get an email. Or, if no access to email, Atma could make a new pass word. (My person thought so, that it got lost))

2019 Sep 06 03:07:38
Cheav Villa: Sister Puthy, in this morning asked Kana she forgot her login password into Sangham.net  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 03:06:19
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 01:50:10
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Sep 06 01:45:46
Johann: A pleasing and meritful Uposatha, those observing it today.

2019 Sep 05 12:00:09
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Sep 05 10:10:57
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Aug 30 03:50:22
Johann: Seams as if the rain leaves way to make a round

2019 Aug 30 02:34:32
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 30 01:33:20
Johann: and may those observing it today enjoy the rest in doing merits as well

2019 Aug 29 02:10:10
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 29 01:58:34
Johann: An admirable New-moon Uposatha observing all those conducting it today.

2019 Aug 25 15:07:04
Vithou:  _/\_

2019 Aug 23 06:28:14
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 23 06:06:18
Johann: At least here in the vally, people celebrate the Uposatha today. May it be blessed and meritful spend by those taking part.

2019 Aug 22 12:53:30
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Aug 22 10:04:46
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2019 Aug 22 10:01:05
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_
Bong Villa _/\_

2019 Aug 21 10:59:03
Johann: May Sukha come to fulfillment, Nyom.

2019 Aug 21 10:44:55
Moritz: Chom reap leah, Bhante _/\_ I have some other stuff to do now and will come back later. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 21 09:15:49
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Aug 21 08:22:24
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 20 11:46:26
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante  _/\_  _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 20 11:25:55
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Aug 16 12:51:30
Johann: Does she have any technical difficulty? Just because such could be.

2019 Aug 16 12:50:14
Johann: Nyom Anneliese

2019 Aug 15 04:29:20
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Sadhu

2019 Aug 15 03:49:34
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Aug 15 00:36:44
Johann: A blessed full moon Upusatha and much joy in merits

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[ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« on: February 16, 2019, 03:04:10 PM »

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Dieses neue Thema (bzw. diese/r Beitrag/e) wurde  aus abgetrennten Beiträgen, ursprünglich in [ATI.eu] various errors , hinzugefügt. Für ev. ergänzende Informationen zur sehen Sie bitte das Ursprugsthema ein. Anumodana!

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Again full... it might have to do with the big amount of edits, possible storing all changes.

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sangham.net   5596.05 MB   7000 MB   7001 MB   5596.05 MB 7000 MB
zugangzureinsicht.org   687.72 MB   800 MB   801 MB   687.72 MB 800 MB
accesstoinsight.eu   12198.93 MB   12200 MB   12201 MB

Now reduced to 90 days from 366 store might possible help for now. Wondered why a possible 1,5 GB volume needs 12 GB. Lets see.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2019, 01:54:07 AM »
Reducing the time as made possible does not help. Atma asked also in DW-forum . Does Nyom Moritz have a not to much of his time using idea?
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2019, 04:46:20 AM »
It seems as if found the reason: Older Versiins

With every change the whole page is stored. Given 6300 pages+ and hundreds of changes each, explains why 1GB content grows fast to 12 GB.

The question is now how to solve it, given that there would be possible hundred-thousands of files manual to delete. Build up totally anew and delete them in attic all?

In the case it works that way and gives no errors, how to handle it in the future not to happen or give settings like "the oldest and the last month" of old versions.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2019, 11:25:08 AM »
A "cronjob", like found in giving into by Mr. Michael would be a solution , possible, but Atma fears to have to less knowledge to do not damage things by maintenance .

A programmer could possible add not to delete the oldest as well.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2019, 12:02:28 PM »
Tried to download the over 500.000 files, but that may require days (25.000 solved). So possible delete manual folder for folder might be easier to keep the oldest versions in en: de: pt: zze origin. -> not so, it takes a huge of time, an hour for one folder.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2019, 12:33:32 PM »
Vandami Bhante _/\_

Sorry, I was very busy lately. But it looks like the reason was found. Good to know what is happening to all this disk space and how to keep more of it available for use.
I am now making a backup of ATI.eu and will try to make a script for the cleanup cronjob later in the evening.

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Tried to download the over 500.000 files, but that may require days (25.000 solved). So possible delete manual folder for folder might be easier to keep the oldest versions in en: de: pt: zze origin. -> not so, it takes a huge of time, an hour for one folder.

I have already completed the backup with the Greensta backup function and am downloading it now. So the current state of the Wiki should be safe.

Deleting attic files with a cronjob script directly on the server later should run fast.

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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2019, 12:42:21 PM »
Sadhu!
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2019, 12:37:31 AM »
Cleanup cronjob is now running every hour.
It is set up to delete nothing which is newer than 30 days, and also to always keep at least the first three and the last three versions.
At the moment only cleaning up in "data/attic", but there are other places like "data/media_attic" (not much there at the moment), the cache (some gigabytes) and maybe more. Just not quite sure yet about how everything else works, not wanting to delete too much. So there is still room for improvement.
Disk space usage for accesstoinsight.eu is now shown as 8.02 Gigabyte. Not sure how much it was before.

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*  Now leaving for tonight. May all the deleted files find a fortunate rebirth, if not release into nibbana. ^-^
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2019, 01:04:35 AM »
Sadhu. Sounds great.

It was at 11.2GB and is still high because made a lot of edits this days. Once general edits are done, it will be down to 2 or 4 GB.

In reagard of media, Atma tries o ask.

-> Attic-media Daten und cache gleich behandelbar wie für pages?

Possible good if making a page maintenance so that adjustments could be easier made by others later and storage is understood.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2019, 01:26:36 AM »
Just to inform, it wouldn't keep the first three but some at the beginning, see http://accesstoinsight.eu/de/tipitaka/sut/an/an04/an04.036.than?do=revisions&first=80 for example.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2019, 12:28:03 PM »
Mr. LMS has offert some manual solutions with plugins, possible good in addition to a good cronjob general solution:

- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:cleanup
- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:clearhistory

and told that media attic can be seen similar.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2019, 12:42:22 PM »
And Mr. Michael points on setting to avoide media-revison saving general, which seems to be proper in this wikis case. No need to store them, better to give another name if keeping old is proper.
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2019, 01:27:36 PM »
Just to inform, it wouldn't keep the first three but some at the beginning, see http://accesstoinsight.eu/de/tipitaka/sut/an/an04/an04.036.than?do=revisions&first=80 for example.
Oops. The reason was that I had assumed without checking that files would be sorted by filename when reading directories in PHP. So the first and last 3 of a randomized list of revisions were kept for each file.

Now that is fixed. If necessary, the old revisions could still be restored from the backup if one can download the file. But it seems that Greensta is still having the same old problems with not being able to download large backup files (download stopping after 1 gigabyte). I have written an email to Greensta to inform about the problem.

A description of the cleanup process is now written down here: http://accesstoinsight.eu/en/tech/maintenance

Mr. LMS has offert some manual solutions with plugins, possible good in addition to a good cronjob general solution:

- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:cleanup
- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:clearhistory

and told that media attic can be seen similar.

Good to know. Maybe the Cleanup plugin is a cleaner overall solution, already well-maintained by others. But with the cronjob now everything seems to be running fine, and it is easier to maintain one's own custom logic of what to clean up (i.e. keep first and last three at the moment).
I will try to add media attic and cache cleanup soon.
And Mr. Michael points on setting to avoide media-revison saving general, which seems to be proper in this wikis case. No need to store them, better to give another name if keeping old is proper.

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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2019, 02:01:40 PM »
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If necessary, the old revisions could still be restored from the backup if one can download the file. But it seems that Greensta is still having the same old problems with not being able to download large backup files (download stopping after 1 gigabyte). I have written an email to Greensta to inform about the problem.
My person does not think it is necessary to restore, still huge general modifications. How ever, if there is a backup available for some times, in cases, that's sure fine.
A description of the cleanup process is now written down here: http://accesstoinsight.eu/en/tech/maintenance
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...Good to know. Maybe the Cleanup plugin is a cleaner overall solution, already well-maintained by others. But with the cronjob now everything seems to be running fine, and it is easier to maintain one's own custom logic of what to clean up (i.e. keep first and last three at the moment).
I will try to add media attic and cache cleanup soon.
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Re: [ATI.eu] maintenance (revisions, cache)
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2019, 05:11:33 AM »
Maybe a function that deletes older Versions made with in a timeframe of say 24h, or 48h as well, would be good, since the versions-producing replacment sessions are surely nevertheless able to fill the webspace within one or to days again.
It then might even not require to delete all older after the busy times at the beginning.
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