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2019 Mar 25 15:28:24
Johann: Others, even if pure, is open for critic and bad assumings. Envy, jealously... on each side. So to become not susbected, needs good advices, double hard for woman to act perfect.

2019 Mar 25 15:23:21
Johann: Pappies can give good lessons when they don't fall, but the deeper, the hard training, must come from liberal mommies for daughters and liberal pappies for sons, in the world and for beyond.

2019 Mar 25 15:11:15
Cheav Villa:   _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 15:04:40
Johann: Does mommy generally don't actually love her child when not react?

2019 Mar 25 15:03:13
Johann: Mommy, mommy... but I like... ohh, they bite me... I am hungry... when do we go back?... why must we sit here... mommy!

2019 Mar 25 15:00:37
Johann: Which can be changed all the time, with feeding rightly.

2019 Mar 25 14:55:50
Cheav Villa: កូណាសង្ឃឹមថា.​ ជារឿងឧបនិស្ស័យ.​  :D _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:50:25
Johann: ...teaching and mirror.

2019 Mar 25 14:49:40
Johann: When one is stressed or busy, remember how many times one him/herself was so as well. Intention will always has it's effects, sometimes quick, sometimes even sisters, mother and child... Nyom wouldn't have become here, if there would be not long, long bounds. Watch your child. Thats always a great t

2019 Mar 25 14:40:41
Cheav Villa: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:39:48
Cheav Villa: ព្រោះកូណាមិនអាចទៅឱរ៉ាល់បានកំឡុងពេលនេះ តែអាចជួបនៅភ្នំពេញបាន តែចេតនាម្ខាងមិនចង់ជួប ទើបមិនអាចជួប

2019 Mar 25 14:38:39
Cheav Villa: កូណាគ្រាន់តែចង់បញ្ជាក់អំពីចេតនា ដែលម្នាក់មាន និងម្នាក់គ្មាន ក្នុងការ​ជួបគ្នា.ជាហេតុមិនបានជួប :D _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:37:02
Cheav Villa:    _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 13:44:16
Johann: Nyom Vithou. Foot well again?

2019 Mar 25 11:56:36
Johann: Good stories: The Healing of the Bull and Prisoners of Karma .

2019 Mar 25 11:51:20
Johann: Although monks are allowed to explain how to work oneself out, they are not given to liberate "slaves", prisoner, as this would count as thief.

2019 Mar 25 11:46:29
Johann: When one is "bond" in families, relations... there is so much soil and danger for envy and jealously, and itjs not easy to "pay" one out. Normal being live from making others depending on one and fear to lose a "cattle" they gave so much into.

2019 Mar 25 09:53:57
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 Mar 25 05:00:43
Johann: Some pull back and offer favors, less are giving ways out. Let them wishing to live in cities go back, maintaining homes. Bond by mara there is no escape, they leave alm bowls behind and step into cars, to "help".

2019 Mar 25 04:11:30
Johann: One (who ever) gives the best when helping, assist, in sharing Dhamma, translate it, sort it, easy accessable and maintain it, by proper and given means.

2019 Mar 25 04:03:32
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2019 Mar 25 03:53:23
Johann: One stopped at the topic Sangahak, worldily and best. It's hard to try to translate but bears a lot of fruits. Conceit is dangerous, and a feeling of "right" turns quick into lose. Satipatthana, the right workingplaces. And again Ways of  

2019 Mar 25 02:53:11
Kong Sokdina: ដំណើរផ្លូវឆ្ងាយ មិនប្រមាណ បាននូវសេចក្ដីប្រមាថ។

2019 Mar 24 18:54:30
Cheav Villa: ជាចិត្តលំអៀងព្រោះជំពាក់ក្នុងសេចក្តីស្រលាញ់សាច់ញាតិ​ បងប្អូន.​ ឪពុកម្ដាយ​  ^-^

2019 Mar 24 18:49:47
Cheav Villa: ជារឿងដដែល យូរណាស់មកហើយ  ខ្ញុំ​កូណាគួរតែបានរកឃើញផ្លូវកណ្តាល​  :) _/\_

2019 Mar 24 18:48:21
Cheav Villa: ការជាប់ជំពាក់នៅក្នុងការជួយអ្នកដទៃ ការជាប់ជំពាក់នៅក្នុងការចង់អោយគេបានសុខ តែងនាំសេចក្តីទុក្ខ ដល់ខ្លួន

2019 Mar 24 13:23:44
Johann: Nyom Senghour

2019 Mar 23 06:34:02
Johann: No problem Nyom Vithou.

2019 Mar 23 04:32:25
Vithou: ngyom kuna will inform Preah Ang later when kuna get better

2019 Mar 23 04:31:12
Vithou: Preah Ang, ngyom kuna cannot go Phnom Aural tomorrow due to my foot problem. I let is a bit pain and Ngyom kuna cannot walk properly

2019 Mar 20 19:02:36
Johann: May Nyom have a safe and careful travel, when ever he might do.

2019 Mar 20 18:46:53
Johann: Now, Nyom Moritz and Nyom Sophorn are here in the forest. Atma does not know how long.

2019 Mar 20 18:20:42
Vithou: Nyom Kuna planning to see Moritz and Bong Sophorn as well

2019 Mar 20 18:17:26
Vithou: Nyom Kuna planning to go Phnom Oral on Sunday

2019 Mar 20 18:16:07
Vithou: Nyom Kuna was sick too long after remove kidney stone . ( about 2 months ) and skittle busy with human job

2019 Mar 20 18:13:50
Vithou: Is Moritz and Bong Sophorn at Asram now?

2019 Mar 20 18:12:02
Vithou: Kuna Preah Ang

2019 Mar 20 18:05:01
Johann: Nyom Vithou

2019 Mar 20 12:25:25
Johann: here and now

2019 Mar 20 09:04:34
Cheav Villa: To reach the end of the cosmos to go beyond   _/\_

2019 Mar 20 08:49:03
Johann: Oh.. wrong, here: Rohitassa Sutta

2019 Mar 20 08:45:24
Johann: There is nothing to far that the mind, oneself, could not reach it in the Universe. Yet end of suffering can not found. But it requires to reach the end of the cosmos to go beyound. Lokayatika Sutta

2019 Mar 20 08:14:55
Chanroth:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 20 06:34:16
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាសូមថ្វាយបង្គំុ Vandami Bhante ពីចំងាយ

2019 Mar 20 06:32:27
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 សាធុុ សាធុ សាធុ! ថ្ងៃឧបោសថ ករុណាសូមចូលរួមត្រេកអរដែរ😇🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Mar 20 06:13:30
Johann: Mudita

2019 Mar 20 05:52:37
Cheav Villa: ថ្ងៃឧបោសថ​  :)​ កូណាចូលរួមត្រេកអរដល់សេរីភាពរបស់ពួកគាត់  _/\_

2019 Mar 19 13:56:41
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2019 Mar 19 08:47:34
Johann: Knowing this, one is able to share family (of supporter), honor, dwelling, gains, dhamma, having a clear sense of gratitude.

2019 Mar 19 08:44:19
Johann: And what is the reason of macchariya disapearing? Knowning, remembering, form, sound...ideas are no refuge, not real, not worthy to fall for, not ones own.

2019 Mar 19 08:41:50
Johann: "May macchariya (stinginess) become its needed reduce, so that the goodness of Dhamma may reaches more intensive", is that right translated? Sadhu. Not an easy task althought one might think.

2019 Mar 19 08:07:30
Cheav Villa: សូមអោយមច្ឆរិយ.​ ត្រូវបានកាត់បន្ថយ ដើម្បីគុណធម៌ដែលខ្ពស់ជាង _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 19 01:39:39
Johann: May all have always a good travel, meet each other in best furtune along there ways. May no one get hurt in the traffic after happiness.

2019 Mar 18 10:21:51
Moritz: hello empty yogi _/\_

2019 Mar 18 10:21:23
Moritz: Vandami bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 18 10:21:22
Moritz: Vandami bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 16 08:19:42
Johann:  _/\_ Bhante Indannano

2019 Mar 15 04:20:37
Johann: Nyom Buddhi

2019 Mar 14 16:00:28
Cheav Villa: កូណា​ថ្វាយបង្គំ​លា​ សូមព្រះអង្គឆាប់បានសំរាក​  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 14 09:13:11
Kong Sokdina: Hello!

2019 Mar 14 08:35:17
Johann: Nyom Kong Sokdina

2019 Mar 14 08:10:07
Johann: A meritful Sila-day those who observe it today

2019 Mar 13 11:18:19
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 13 09:23:36
Johann: A meritful Sila-day those who observe it today, btw.

2019 Mar 10 02:03:42
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Mar 09 07:45:59
Moritz: Good morning, Cheav Villa _/\_

2019 Mar 07 12:10:15
Cheav Villa: កូណាព្រះអង្គ  _/\_

2019 Mar 07 12:05:44
Johann: My person is not sure but Nyom Chanroths wife might try to go back from PP tomorrow as well, Nyom.

2019 Mar 07 01:21:24
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 07 01:18:59
Johann: May you have a safe and slow travel.

2019 Mar 07 01:10:20
Cheav Villa: ចេញពី​ភ្នំពេញ​នៅម៉ោង5ព្រឹក :)  _/\_

2019 Mar 07 01:09:25
Cheav Villa: ពួកខ្ញុំកូណា និង បង​ភឿន​ នឹងទៅសួរសុខទុក្ខព្រះអង្គនៅថ្ងៃស្អែក

2019 Mar 07 01:08:34
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Mar 07 01:07:32
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:31:04
Cheav Villa: Have a good day to Master Moritz  _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:29:38
Moritz: And good night for me. :) Chom reap leah. May all have a good Uposatha _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:27:51
Moritz: Good morning, Cheav Villa _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:17:49
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:05:26
Johann: A self-blessed (by ones deeds) Uposathaday today.

2019 Mar 05 11:33:43
Johann: Nyom Chanroth had to stop the work. To difficult to concentrate today. Good training anyway.

2019 Mar 05 10:20:56
Cheav Villa:  :-\ :D _/\_

2019 Mar 05 05:26:54
Johann: A meritful Uposatha those who observe it today.

2019 Mar 05 03:13:37
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu. Rupam anicca

2019 Mar 05 01:47:58
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាបារម្ភអំពីសុខភាពរបស់ព្រះអង្គពីចំងាយ 🙏🏻ករុណាសូមប្រគេនពរ ព្រះអង្គឆាប់ជាសះស្បេីយ

2019 Mar 05 01:38:52
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាឮថា ព្រះអង្គអាពាធ ជង្គង់ តេីព្រះអង្គបានធូរស្បេីយហេីយឬនៅ?

2019 Mar 05 01:07:09
Ieng Puthy: Good morning ! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ Vandami Bante

2019 Mar 04 14:41:21
Johann: Sukha Chomreoun, Nyom

2019 Mar 04 14:18:03
Moritz: Leaving now. May Bhante have a good day. _/\_

2019 Mar 04 13:45:50
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Mar 04 13:19:43
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 01 16:35:39
Johann: Bhante Indannano  _/\_ How was India in "war times"

2019 Feb 28 11:46:56
Moritz: And good bye again. :) _/\_

2019 Feb 28 11:46:38
Moritz: Vandami, Bhante _/\_

2019 Feb 28 05:25:27
Cheav Villa:   :D_/\_

2019 Feb 28 04:22:46
Johann: 5 o'clock morning  ^-^ (like a taxi driver) may Nyom has well earned and peaceful rest. Mudita.

2019 Feb 28 04:08:09
Moritz: Chom reap leah. I'm going to sleep. _/\_

2019 Feb 28 03:40:13
Johann: Sukha chomreoun Nyom.

2019 Feb 28 03:39:06
Moritz: Vandami, Bhante _/\_

2019 Feb 28 03:35:39
Moritz: Good morning, Cheav Villa _/\_

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Author Topic: Status of Cyrillic Chatta Sanghayana heritage  (Read 1348 times)

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Status of Cyrillic Chatta Sanghayana heritage
« on: February 24, 2019, 01:43:01 PM »

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Dieses neue Thema (bzw. diese/r Beitrag/e) wurde  aus abgetrennten Beiträgen, ursprünglich in [ATI.eu] CSCD xml to ati.eu format: converting, editing  , hinzugefügt. Für ev. ergänzende Informationen zur sehen Sie bitte das Ursprugsthema ein. Anumodana!
Uploads of the source-files and putting into their categories are done. Anumodana!

There are still some xml-tags left, most seemingly in the Cyrillic edition, caused by certain inconsistency (probably done by somebody else for this font/script).

At this place, does Upasaka Dmytro ( Admin ) know anything about the situation of the Cyrillic Edition? And has it been given to a possible existing Sangha using this script, aside of the surely huge amount of not so proper accesses? If not so, if Nyom likes to assist ad take part on the merits, he may invite personally to make use of it and give access and accounts. If he likes to scarifies effort and knowledge to render the storage and text proper, he may do so given, for the Sanghas and their devoted followers use.

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Dear Bhante,

There are still some xml-tags left, most seemingly in the Cyrillic edition, caused by certain inconsistency (probably done by somebody else for this font/script).

At this place, does Upasaka Dmytro ( Admin ) know anything about the situation of the Cyrillic Edition?

All I know is that one of my friends communicated with the compilers of this edition many years ago.

Quote from: ??
And has it been given to a possible existing Sangha using this script, aside of the surely huge amount of not so proper accesses?

As far as I know, no.

Besides, it's Mongolian Cyrillic. We implemented proper Russian Cyrillic:

http://dhamma.ru/canon/sn/sn22.082.kual.html
http://dhamma.ru/canon/sn/sn22.059.kual.html
http://dhamma.ru/canon/sn/sn22.045.kual.html
http://dhamma.ru/canon/sn/sn22.095.kual.html
http://dhamma.ru/canon/sn/sn35.026.kual.html
http://dhamma.ru/canon/sn/sn35.028.kual.html
http://dhamma.ru/canon/sn/sn35.147.kual.html
http://dhamma.ru/canon/sn/sn35.148.kual.html
http://dhamma.ru/canon/sn/sn35.149.kual.html
http://dhamma.ru/canon/sn/sn22.056.kual.html

With CharisSIL font:
http://software.sil.org/charis/

and a simple conversion script:

var dictTranscript = {
   "ṃ":"м̣", "a":"а", "ā":"а̄", "i":"и", "ī":"ӣ", "u":"у", "ū":"ӯ", "e":"е", "o":"о", "k":"к", "g":"г", "ṅ":"н̇", "c":"ч", "j":"дж", "ñ":"н̃", "ṭ":"т̣", "ḍ":"д̣", "ṇ":"н̣", "t":"т", "d":"д", "n":"н", "p":"п", "b":"б", "m":"м", "y":"й", "r":"р", "l":"л", "v":"в", "s":"с", "h":"х", "ḷ":"л̣",
   
   "A":"А", "Ā":"А̄", "I":"И", "Ī":"Ӣ", "U":"У", "Ū":"Ӯ", "E":"Е", "O":"О", "K":"К", "G":"Г", "Ṅ":"Н̇", "C":"Ч", "J":"Дж", "Ñ":"Н̃", "Ṭ":"Т̣", "Ḍ":"Д̣", "Ṇ":"Н̣", "T":"Т", "D":"Д", "N":"Н", "P":"П", "B":"Б", "M":"М", "Y":"Й", "R":"Р", "L":"Л", "V":"В", "S":"С", "H":"Х", "Ḷ":"Л̣"   
};

https://dhamma.ru/scripts/transdisp.js

Conversion to Thai and other scripts can be similarly implemented:

http://www.virtualvinodh.com/wp/aksharamukha/

As for proper markup, a lot of work has been done at Suttacentral:

https://discourse.suttacentral.net/t/description-of-markup-in-methodology-static-page/7460
https://discourse.suttacentral.net/t/text-critical-information-styling/7067

« Last Edit: February 24, 2019, 02:18:20 PM by Johann »

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Re: Status of Cyrillic Chatta Sanghayana heritage
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2019, 02:00:31 PM »
Sadhu, Nyom Dmytro Admin  .

My my person trust that Dmytro is well and healthy, good on path?

My person "fears" that those gifts can not be used. Asking Nyom Vinodh for example, having came across (and reminded the thought "how to make Khmer Pali dictionaries easier accessable for non Khmer), did not seem as if it is possible to take in trust, make use to dedicate and give for the Savaka Sangha (just another sample of how much value this taking on rights has... not relay-able at all and my person would not be out of remorse if acting on licenses, certain knowing what people are actually thinking). But that's his choice which has to be respected without claiming on right. It's his own and respected.

My person does not need to recommend on the "monastic culture thieves" and their sutta-central's outputs which are not to be assumed being dedicated for the Sangha but have wordily purposes and merely depriving the Sangha from it's heritage (not speak of not given...)

If Nyom might know or get in contact with a Sangha that is not in connection with those striving for their own, that would be good, also to look for it.

Nevertheless, current situations might not hinder to probably use a nimitta for benefical deeds. Aside of mass on Robin Hood undertakings, still a possibility for real merits.

Again, Sadhu for the care and effort, generosity and non-stinginess and hopefully again inspirations to scarifies ones skills and beloved, like Pali, toward a worthy object.

It's neither a general public undertaking, nor to win a lot of people, not to speak of nourish fonds and livelihoods..., but for those who are serious about the Vinaya, or already real giver, and as possible no more able to act wrong, those worthy people have really a hard to access their heritage and so it will be gone soon for them and just wordling to wordling literary Dhamma-Dana will be left.
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Re: Status of Cyrillic Chatta Sanghayana heritage
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2019, 02:36:28 PM »
Spoken of "Mongolian Cyrillic": That seems to be reasonable, since late Sir Goenkas team was after giving it foremost to their heirs, as far as perceivable (that is now sure a different after SIr Goenkas death, like with most heirs wordily interests of use and maintain), not so focused on serving this and that script. Such further share would be proper if made by the certain, possible existing Sangha.

My person has really no good "feelings" of what goes on around and hardly destroys the rest of the third Juwel with certain "revolutionary" undertakings. May my persons perceiving, looking around, always be wrong in such regards.

May there be some wise and faithful, some with the required merits, left.
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2019, 07:18:12 PM »
* Johann : It's maybe good to consider and reflect that actually only Mohayana practicing people still would give gifts not first toward to Sangha but outwardly of it, Nyom Dmytry Admin . Has not been done already enought for the world that is not right on time to think toward that what binds toward Nibbana and give others a sample that is authentic? Don't be affraid of high and liberating merits and to let go of promises if for a higher reason. Maybe listen to some word  on it. It's not easy to let go of certain Bodhisatta vows, but once off, once having come to the Domain of the Noble Ones, the world is suddenly no more void of Noble Ones. It just needs to wash away ones defilemtent by outstandig, at least on one side purified, letting go.

What's known about a Mongolian Sangha? Monks who used this script and the Tipitaka? Are there still some to be found? Why does it happen that this Tipitaka appears under the first 4 on Sangham.net . Any idea?
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2019, 10:30:58 PM »
What's known about a Mongolian Sangha? Monks who used this script and the Tipitaka? Are there still some to be found? Why does it happen that this Tipitaka appears under the first 4 on Sangham.net . Any idea?

This script has been introduced in the 1940s in the Mongolian People's Republic under Soviet influence.
I doubt that Mongolian Buddhists have ever had Tipitaka in the ancient times.
Its only recently that they became able to study it.

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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2019, 01:14:54 AM »
How about the rest of former Soviet Union? At least Mongolia has a Buddhist history. From whom learn people in the rest since view years about the Tipitaka? A Sangha? And how could one ever come up if it is introduced by householder and monks far from the/a Sangha?

Everywhere the same. Overestimate, pseudoliberalism and traces of not much gratitude, not to speak of seek for refuge.
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Re: Status of Cyrillic Chatta Sanghayana heritage
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2019, 04:04:57 AM »
Just to mention it, and best and right understood if seeing it as a possibility, if Upasaka Dmytro ( Admin ), possible also his fellows, see and think that it is of certain other and refined quality to give into something which can not be made ones own by common ways, thinking it would be good to sacrifices toward the Gems with no thoughts of gaining, he may always tell if wishing to get certain access to possible help to maintain the scriptural  heritage of the Sangha.

There is also no problem to make a further namespace, language, for translations http://accesstoinsight.eu/ru/index and it would be of course good, if there are, to ask Monks, possible a good russian-speaking Sangha to spiritual "lead" such an undertaking of high merits.

* Johann : the same counts for all others seeking for such rather to deprive the hires . Nyom Vorapol just comes to mind as well, probably putting so much effort in ways binding to certain perception and cuasses debts, rather toward liberation.

Again, just pointer on a tiny opening left.
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