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2019 Mar 25 15:28:24
Johann: Others, even if pure, is open for critic and bad assumings. Envy, jealously... on each side. So to become not susbected, needs good advices, double hard for woman to act perfect.

2019 Mar 25 15:23:21
Johann: Pappies can give good lessons when they don't fall, but the deeper, the hard training, must come from liberal mommies for daughters and liberal pappies for sons, in the world and for beyond.

2019 Mar 25 15:11:15
Cheav Villa:   _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 15:04:40
Johann: Does mommy generally don't actually love her child when not react?

2019 Mar 25 15:03:13
Johann: Mommy, mommy... but I like... ohh, they bite me... I am hungry... when do we go back?... why must we sit here... mommy!

2019 Mar 25 15:00:37
Johann: Which can be changed all the time, with feeding rightly.

2019 Mar 25 14:55:50
Cheav Villa: កូណាសង្ឃឹមថា.​ ជារឿងឧបនិស្ស័យ.​  :D _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:50:25
Johann: ...teaching and mirror.

2019 Mar 25 14:49:40
Johann: When one is stressed or busy, remember how many times one him/herself was so as well. Intention will always has it's effects, sometimes quick, sometimes even sisters, mother and child... Nyom wouldn't have become here, if there would be not long, long bounds. Watch your child. Thats always a great t

2019 Mar 25 14:40:41
Cheav Villa: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:39:48
Cheav Villa: ព្រោះកូណាមិនអាចទៅឱរ៉ាល់បានកំឡុងពេលនេះ តែអាចជួបនៅភ្នំពេញបាន តែចេតនាម្ខាងមិនចង់ជួប ទើបមិនអាចជួប

2019 Mar 25 14:38:39
Cheav Villa: កូណាគ្រាន់តែចង់បញ្ជាក់អំពីចេតនា ដែលម្នាក់មាន និងម្នាក់គ្មាន ក្នុងការ​ជួបគ្នា.ជាហេតុមិនបានជួប :D _/\_

2019 Mar 25 14:37:02
Cheav Villa:    _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 25 13:44:16
Johann: Nyom Vithou. Foot well again?

2019 Mar 25 11:56:36
Johann: Good stories: The Healing of the Bull and Prisoners of Karma .

2019 Mar 25 11:51:20
Johann: Although monks are allowed to explain how to work oneself out, they are not given to liberate "slaves", prisoner, as this would count as thief.

2019 Mar 25 11:46:29
Johann: When one is "bond" in families, relations... there is so much soil and danger for envy and jealously, and itjs not easy to "pay" one out. Normal being live from making others depending on one and fear to lose a "cattle" they gave so much into.

2019 Mar 25 09:53:57
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 Mar 25 05:00:43
Johann: Some pull back and offer favors, less are giving ways out. Let them wishing to live in cities go back, maintaining homes. Bond by mara there is no escape, they leave alm bowls behind and step into cars, to "help".

2019 Mar 25 04:11:30
Johann: One (who ever) gives the best when helping, assist, in sharing Dhamma, translate it, sort it, easy accessable and maintain it, by proper and given means.

2019 Mar 25 04:03:32
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2019 Mar 25 03:53:23
Johann: One stopped at the topic Sangahak, worldily and best. It's hard to try to translate but bears a lot of fruits. Conceit is dangerous, and a feeling of "right" turns quick into lose. Satipatthana, the right workingplaces. And again Ways of  

2019 Mar 25 02:53:11
Kong Sokdina: ដំណើរផ្លូវឆ្ងាយ មិនប្រមាណ បាននូវសេចក្ដីប្រមាថ។

2019 Mar 24 18:54:30
Cheav Villa: ជាចិត្តលំអៀងព្រោះជំពាក់ក្នុងសេចក្តីស្រលាញ់សាច់ញាតិ​ បងប្អូន.​ ឪពុកម្ដាយ​  ^-^

2019 Mar 24 18:49:47
Cheav Villa: ជារឿងដដែល យូរណាស់មកហើយ  ខ្ញុំ​កូណាគួរតែបានរកឃើញផ្លូវកណ្តាល​  :) _/\_

2019 Mar 24 18:48:21
Cheav Villa: ការជាប់ជំពាក់នៅក្នុងការជួយអ្នកដទៃ ការជាប់ជំពាក់នៅក្នុងការចង់អោយគេបានសុខ តែងនាំសេចក្តីទុក្ខ ដល់ខ្លួន

2019 Mar 24 13:23:44
Johann: Nyom Senghour

2019 Mar 23 06:34:02
Johann: No problem Nyom Vithou.

2019 Mar 23 04:32:25
Vithou: ngyom kuna will inform Preah Ang later when kuna get better

2019 Mar 23 04:31:12
Vithou: Preah Ang, ngyom kuna cannot go Phnom Aural tomorrow due to my foot problem. I let is a bit pain and Ngyom kuna cannot walk properly

2019 Mar 20 19:02:36
Johann: May Nyom have a safe and careful travel, when ever he might do.

2019 Mar 20 18:46:53
Johann: Now, Nyom Moritz and Nyom Sophorn are here in the forest. Atma does not know how long.

2019 Mar 20 18:20:42
Vithou: Nyom Kuna planning to see Moritz and Bong Sophorn as well

2019 Mar 20 18:17:26
Vithou: Nyom Kuna planning to go Phnom Oral on Sunday

2019 Mar 20 18:16:07
Vithou: Nyom Kuna was sick too long after remove kidney stone . ( about 2 months ) and skittle busy with human job

2019 Mar 20 18:13:50
Vithou: Is Moritz and Bong Sophorn at Asram now?

2019 Mar 20 18:12:02
Vithou: Kuna Preah Ang

2019 Mar 20 18:05:01
Johann: Nyom Vithou

2019 Mar 20 12:25:25
Johann: here and now

2019 Mar 20 09:04:34
Cheav Villa: To reach the end of the cosmos to go beyond   _/\_

2019 Mar 20 08:49:03
Johann: Oh.. wrong, here: Rohitassa Sutta

2019 Mar 20 08:45:24
Johann: There is nothing to far that the mind, oneself, could not reach it in the Universe. Yet end of suffering can not found. But it requires to reach the end of the cosmos to go beyound. Lokayatika Sutta

2019 Mar 20 08:14:55
Chanroth:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 20 06:34:16
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាសូមថ្វាយបង្គំុ Vandami Bhante ពីចំងាយ

2019 Mar 20 06:32:27
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 សាធុុ សាធុ សាធុ! ថ្ងៃឧបោសថ ករុណាសូមចូលរួមត្រេកអរដែរ😇🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Mar 20 06:13:30
Johann: Mudita

2019 Mar 20 05:52:37
Cheav Villa: ថ្ងៃឧបោសថ​  :)​ កូណាចូលរួមត្រេកអរដល់សេរីភាពរបស់ពួកគាត់  _/\_

2019 Mar 19 13:56:41
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2019 Mar 19 08:47:34
Johann: Knowing this, one is able to share family (of supporter), honor, dwelling, gains, dhamma, having a clear sense of gratitude.

2019 Mar 19 08:44:19
Johann: And what is the reason of macchariya disapearing? Knowning, remembering, form, sound...ideas are no refuge, not real, not worthy to fall for, not ones own.

2019 Mar 19 08:41:50
Johann: "May macchariya (stinginess) become its needed reduce, so that the goodness of Dhamma may reaches more intensive", is that right translated? Sadhu. Not an easy task althought one might think.

2019 Mar 19 08:07:30
Cheav Villa: សូមអោយមច្ឆរិយ.​ ត្រូវបានកាត់បន្ថយ ដើម្បីគុណធម៌ដែលខ្ពស់ជាង _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 19 01:39:39
Johann: May all have always a good travel, meet each other in best furtune along there ways. May no one get hurt in the traffic after happiness.

2019 Mar 18 10:21:51
Moritz: hello empty yogi _/\_

2019 Mar 18 10:21:23
Moritz: Vandami bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 18 10:21:22
Moritz: Vandami bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 16 08:19:42
Johann:  _/\_ Bhante Indannano

2019 Mar 15 04:20:37
Johann: Nyom Buddhi

2019 Mar 14 16:00:28
Cheav Villa: កូណា​ថ្វាយបង្គំ​លា​ សូមព្រះអង្គឆាប់បានសំរាក​  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 14 09:13:11
Kong Sokdina: Hello!

2019 Mar 14 08:35:17
Johann: Nyom Kong Sokdina

2019 Mar 14 08:10:07
Johann: A meritful Sila-day those who observe it today

2019 Mar 13 11:18:19
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 13 09:23:36
Johann: A meritful Sila-day those who observe it today, btw.

2019 Mar 10 02:03:42
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Mar 09 07:45:59
Moritz: Good morning, Cheav Villa _/\_

2019 Mar 07 12:10:15
Cheav Villa: កូណាព្រះអង្គ  _/\_

2019 Mar 07 12:05:44
Johann: My person is not sure but Nyom Chanroths wife might try to go back from PP tomorrow as well, Nyom.

2019 Mar 07 01:21:24
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 07 01:18:59
Johann: May you have a safe and slow travel.

2019 Mar 07 01:10:20
Cheav Villa: ចេញពី​ភ្នំពេញ​នៅម៉ោង5ព្រឹក :)  _/\_

2019 Mar 07 01:09:25
Cheav Villa: ពួកខ្ញុំកូណា និង បង​ភឿន​ នឹងទៅសួរសុខទុក្ខព្រះអង្គនៅថ្ងៃស្អែក

2019 Mar 07 01:08:34
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Mar 07 01:07:32
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:31:04
Cheav Villa: Have a good day to Master Moritz  _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:29:38
Moritz: And good night for me. :) Chom reap leah. May all have a good Uposatha _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:27:51
Moritz: Good morning, Cheav Villa _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:17:49
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 06 03:05:26
Johann: A self-blessed (by ones deeds) Uposathaday today.

2019 Mar 05 11:33:43
Johann: Nyom Chanroth had to stop the work. To difficult to concentrate today. Good training anyway.

2019 Mar 05 10:20:56
Cheav Villa:  :-\ :D _/\_

2019 Mar 05 05:26:54
Johann: A meritful Uposatha those who observe it today.

2019 Mar 05 03:13:37
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu. Rupam anicca

2019 Mar 05 01:47:58
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាបារម្ភអំពីសុខភាពរបស់ព្រះអង្គពីចំងាយ 🙏🏻ករុណាសូមប្រគេនពរ ព្រះអង្គឆាប់ជាសះស្បេីយ

2019 Mar 05 01:38:52
Ieng Puthy: ករុណាឮថា ព្រះអង្គអាពាធ ជង្គង់ តេីព្រះអង្គបានធូរស្បេីយហេីយឬនៅ?

2019 Mar 05 01:07:09
Ieng Puthy: Good morning ! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុ Vandami Bante

2019 Mar 04 14:41:21
Johann: Sukha Chomreoun, Nyom

2019 Mar 04 14:18:03
Moritz: Leaving now. May Bhante have a good day. _/\_

2019 Mar 04 13:45:50
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Mar 04 13:19:43
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Mar 01 16:35:39
Johann: Bhante Indannano  _/\_ How was India in "war times"

2019 Feb 28 11:46:56
Moritz: And good bye again. :) _/\_

2019 Feb 28 11:46:38
Moritz: Vandami, Bhante _/\_

2019 Feb 28 05:25:27
Cheav Villa:   :D_/\_

2019 Feb 28 04:22:46
Johann: 5 o'clock morning  ^-^ (like a taxi driver) may Nyom has well earned and peaceful rest. Mudita.

2019 Feb 28 04:08:09
Moritz: Chom reap leah. I'm going to sleep. _/\_

2019 Feb 28 03:40:13
Johann: Sukha chomreoun Nyom.

2019 Feb 28 03:39:06
Moritz: Vandami, Bhante _/\_

2019 Feb 28 03:35:39
Moritz: Good morning, Cheav Villa _/\_

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Author Topic: [ati.eu] Cleaning up history and others  (Read 1313 times)

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[ati.eu] Cleaning up history and others
« on: March 04, 2019, 05:25:09 AM »
Current memory space:
accesstoinsight.eu   13297.37 MB   13300 MB   13301 MB

Aside of the still open question who to perform reasonable maintenance for longer times:

My person thought it would be the best to invest some time and effort into cleaning up ati.eu manually.
Backup of ati.eu (about a week old) exists and the implementation files are still local saved. Since there are no spam edits to be expected, it seems to be well if deleting all the "work in progress files" in the history directory.

The most history files are lesser edits on content but in regard of coding and since it is still time of implementation. My person thinks it's fine to simply delete as much as possible of the history files, starting with:

media-attic, all folders
attic, cs-rm, -km, -th, -ru

to be continued...
« Last Edit: March 04, 2019, 06:00:00 AM by Johann »
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Re: [ati.eu] Cleaning up history and others
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2019, 05:59:13 AM »
Memory after deleting and cleaning cache by "save settings" in admin-menu now:

accesstoinsight.eu    13218.59 MB    13300 MB    13301 MB

No special performance errors detected after the action.

My person thinks it's good to simply progress in this way, taking on the huge folders en and de, which might take a longer time to be deleted manually.

Starting with de first.
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Re: [ati.eu] Cleaning up history and others
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2019, 12:51:19 PM »
Deleting of de-directory (attic) is still in progress and might need another couple of days. Currently ~1GB made already free again.

accesstoinsight.eu    12445.88 MB    13300 MB    13301 MB

My persons guess is that about 9GB are used only to store implementation-edits history.

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Re: Cleaning up "our" monastery, sangham.net
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2019, 01:19:53 PM »

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Dieses neue Thema (bzw. diese/r Beitrag/e) wurde  aus abgetrennten Beiträgen, ursprünglich in Cleaning up "our" monastery, sangham.net , hinzugefügt. Für ev. ergänzende Informationen zur sehen Sie bitte das Ursprugsthema ein. Anumodana!

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Vandami Bhante _/\_

From the last mirror of ATI that I have downloaded on my pc it looks like the largest problem is the cache directory, using more than 6 GB. The attic seems already trimmed down a lot (1 GB, latest state downloaded, some days ago), and the total amount of pages without attic is also about 1 GB.

I will try to implement cache cleanup also into the cleanup script.

_/\_
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Re: [ati.eu] Cleaning up history and others
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2019, 01:26:28 PM »
It takes a long time to get the total directory size from FTP. But from the last copy I made one or two days ago of the complete site via FTP, what I have on my disk now there is:
  • data/pages: 1.1 GB
  • data/media: 3.2 GB
  • data/meta: 281 MB
  • data/media_meta: 568 KB (almost nothing)
  • data/attic: 2.2 GB
  • data/media_attic: 2.2 MB (almost nothing)
  • data/index: 17MB (was not built successfully, should be almost 100 MB when complete)
  • data/cache: 6.4 GB (half of the total space on the server)

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Re: Re: Cleaning up "our" monastery, sangham.net
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2019, 01:36:18 PM »

Vandami Bhante _/\_

From the last mirror of ATI that I have downloaded on my pc it looks like the largest problem is the cache directory, using more than 6 GB. The attic seems already trimmed down a lot (1 GB, latest state downloaded, some days ago), and the total amount of pages without attic is also about 1 GB.

I will try to implement cache cleanup also into the cleanup script.

_/\_

Sadhu.

May Master Moritz, how ever, always look at own needed time first. What ever inspired instead of normal "useless" spend times, please not duties or needed livelihood times.

If not otherwise told by Nyom, Atma would just continue the "manual" deleting in Attic.
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Re: [ati.eu] Cleaning up history and others
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2019, 01:43:06 PM »
It takes a long time to get the total directory size from FTP. But from the last copy I made one or two days ago of the complete site via FTP, what I have on my disk now there is:
  • data/pages: 1.1 GB
  • data/media: 3.2 GB
  • data/meta: 281 MB
  • data/media_meta: 568 KB (almost nothing)
  • data/attic: 2.2 GB
  • data/media_attic: 2.2 MB (almost nothing)
  • data/index: 17MB (was not built successfully, should be almost 100 MB when complete)
  • data/cache: 6.4 GB (half of the total space on the server)

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My person thought so and great that sure now. Sadhu for care.
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2019, 01:56:30 PM »

Vandami Bhante _/\_

From the last mirror of ATI that I have downloaded on my pc it looks like the largest problem is the cache directory, using more than 6 GB. The attic seems already trimmed down a lot (1 GB, latest state downloaded, some days ago), and the total amount of pages without attic is also about 1 GB.

I will try to implement cache cleanup also into the cleanup script.

_/\_

Sadhu.

May Master Moritz, how ever, always look at own needed time first. What ever inspired instead of normal "useless" spend times, please not duties or needed livelihood times.

If not otherwise told by Nyom, Atma would just continue the "manual" deleting in Attic.

Thanks for care. But was not much time needed. Cache is cleared for now (everything older than 30 days), only using 8.9 MB anymore. (I still don't understand how Cache really works, but it seems also to be safe in general to just delete it completely.)

I will add this to the general cleanup script with an explanation later.

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Re: [ati.eu] Cleaning up history and others
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2019, 02:09:14 PM »
The two plugins and certain scripts and comments may give inspirations:

- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:cleanup
- https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:clearhistory
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Re: [ati.eu] Cleaning up history and others
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2019, 02:37:25 PM »
Looks much better already:

accesstoinsight.eu    6008.75 MB    13300 MB    13301 MB

Attic de delete is finished.

Atma would progress with the other directories manual, now en
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Re: [ati.eu] Cleaning up history and others
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2019, 03:37:46 PM »
If wanting delete all revisions from the attic now (or only keep a selected number or time period) this could also be done with calling the cleanup script, which should only take a few seconds to run.

One would just have to call this URL (here with some example parameters):

http://accesstoinsight.eu/cleanup.php?dir=en&keep=0&expire=0&pass=password

The parameters are:
  • expire: keep files which are younger than this number of days. (Default is 30 if not specified.)
  • keep: keep as many revisions from beginning and end (oldest and youngest) as specified here. (Default is 3.)
  • dir: e.g. 'de' to only delete from 'attic/de'; leave empty to cleanup all attic directories. (Default is empty, i.e. clean the whole attic.)
  • pass: password (I will send this by email)

This same script is also currently run automatically every eight hours with the default parameters.

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Re: [ati.eu] Cleaning up history and others
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2019, 12:34:01 AM »
Email erhalten, Nyom, Sadhu.
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Re: [ati.eu] Cleaning up history and others
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2019, 05:16:15 AM »
Attic is now, aside of km deleted.

Nevertheless, the grow of cache seems to be fast: now up again to 7751.8 MB. 1,5GB in some hours with no real edits.

Maybe the use of ~NOCACHE~ on all pages, or those fine with it, might be good.

https://www.dokuwiki.org/caching
https://www.dokuwiki.org/devel:caching
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Re: [ati.eu] Cleaning up history and others
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2019, 09:14:52 PM »
Nevertheless, the grow of cache seems to be fast: now up again to 7751.8 MB. 1,5GB in some hours with no real edits.

Maybe the use of ~NOCACHE~ on all pages, or those fine with it, might be good.
It has grown fast in the first few hours of re-indexing, but from what I had seen has stopped growing at 4.5 GB. Not sure where 7751.8 MB comes from, but I think the value is wrong. (Getting directory size from FTP takes a long time for a large directory tree, because every sub-directory has to be read with a single FTP command and then all counted together. I think many FTP programs use some cache to remember the size of directories and some numbers might become outdated if not reading everything again.)

But in any case, the cache is big. Maybe worth trying to turn off cache.

Probably easiest to try is to just disable caching in the admin settings , by setting "maximum age for cache" to -1 (not to 0 ), so one can see how well everything works without cache, whether page loading is much slower etc., without changing aynthing in the files at first.

But maybe good to wait until indexing is finished to have a good estimation of the performance.

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