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2019 May 20 04:14:26
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2019 May 20 01:31:27
Johann:  _/\_ Bhante Indannano

2019 May 19 11:28:39
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 May 19 11:27:48
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 18 23:55:08
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 18 10:34:49
amanaki: Thank you Johann  _/\_

2019 May 18 09:59:33
Johann: Nyom Amanaki. Mudita that you may have possible found what searched for on a special day.

2019 May 18 09:24:56
Maria:  _/\_

2019 May 18 09:24:35
Maria: werter Bhante!

2019 May 18 09:22:43
Johann: Nyom Mizi

2019 May 18 09:21:31
Johann: Nyom Sophorn, Nyom Villa... may all here but also there rejoice in own and others goodness.

2019 May 18 05:03:47
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2019 May 18 02:16:49
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 14 07:51:30
Vithou:  _/\_

2019 May 14 05:40:54
Johann: As long as not using telefon while riding. Sokh chomreoun, Nyom.

2019 May 13 18:38:46
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ (sitting in Taxi)

2019 May 12 15:44:32
Johann: But better ask Nyom Chanroth, since Atma does not walk that far these days.

2019 May 12 15:04:01
Johann: not teally, Nyom Vithou. Still less water in the streams here. Some still dry. Needs a while down from the mountains and not that much rain yet.

2019 May 12 14:54:37
Vithou: how is the road Bhante? Is it float at the mountain leg?

2019 May 12 14:51:59
Vithou:   _/\_

2019 May 12 14:40:43
Johann: Nyom Vithou. Nothing special. Yes, rain is present every afternoon since some days.

2019 May 12 14:38:33
Vithou: Bhante, how is everything at Asrum? Is it raining everyday?

2019 May 12 07:05:30
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 12 03:58:19
Johann: a joyful day in merits on this Sila-day

2019 May 11 17:04:10
Cheav Villa:  :) _/\_

2019 May 11 16:16:56
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2019 May 11 05:35:39
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 11 00:52:44
Johann: an meritful Uposatha, those keeping it today

2019 May 10 17:14:43
Moritz: Chom reap leah, I am going to work. _/\_

2019 May 10 17:09:07
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 May 10 17:07:14
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 May 10 16:19:14
Moritz: Chom reap sour, bong Villa _/\_

2019 May 07 19:12:10
Johann: Nyom Vithou. Just some hours ago, thought of him.

2019 May 05 04:26:53
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2019 May 04 11:41:08
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 04 10:27:38
Khemakumara: Nyom Cheav Villa

2019 May 03 10:08:09
Khemakumara: Sadhu, sadhu, sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 May 03 01:17:53
Johann: A meritful new moon Uposatha those celebrating it today.

2019 May 03 01:16:05
Johann: Talk box is buggy and lines love to jump. Better not editing.

2019 May 03 01:14:19
Johann: U Chanroth: "ថ្ងៃនេះខ្ញុំបាទ បានទទួលនៅសម្ភារៈមួយចំនួន សម្រាប់កសាងអាស្រមថ្មទូកសូមជូនបុណ្យដល់ពុទ្ធបរិសទ័ទាំងអស់គ

2019 May 02 15:15:58
Cheav Villa:   <.I.> _/\_

2019 May 02 15:15:17
Cheav Villa: Sorry because of kh font doesn't run well on my phone. Kana go to edit  to see the right  shout but  was wrong by deleting Pou  Chanroth 's  shout

2019 May 02 15:01:04
Cheav Villa: Mudita  :) _/\_

2019 May 02 13:47:17
Moritz: Anumodana puñña kusala! _/\_

2019 May 01 14:49:38
Johann: Now some monks are so close to many, that they can be visited even by feet.

2019 May 01 06:27:25
Johann: Thats accoss the whole city and hot (but cloudy  :) ) Best wishes and greatings.

2019 May 01 06:22:36
Cheav Villa: Get lost in the jungle of Phnom Penh from 2pm till 6pm

2019 May 01 05:40:26
Cheav Villa: Bhante Khemakumara arrived at Wat Sophea Khun in late evening  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 29 09:19:56
Johann: Meister Moritz

2019 Apr 29 08:51:27
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Apr 29 03:07:40
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_ I am going to sleep.

2019 Apr 29 02:59:19
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Apr 29 02:41:01
Moritz: _/\_ Bong Villa

2019 Apr 29 01:02:45
Johann: let's see wheter the rain has swept away the new floor ...

2019 Apr 28 13:58:19
Cheav Villa: First time of Heavy rain in Phnom Penh  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 28 10:33:14
Cheav Villa: សាធុ​សាធុ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 28 10:21:50
Johann: Oh, rain.

2019 Apr 28 08:46:02
Johann: Pleasing soft weather, yes  :)

2019 Apr 28 08:45:28
Johann: Atma rejoices with the may who possible are able to see a death man walking toward the deathless, and have even occation for a lot of spontan merits.

2019 Apr 28 07:31:59
Cheav Villa: May​ Bhante be well  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_  The sky has been cloudy since 10:30am

2019 Apr 28 03:02:15
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 May Bhante Khemakumara walk(nimun) safely. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 27 20:51:41
Johann:  :)

2019 Apr 27 20:51:11
Johann: may it be cloudy (in the hot time) so that feet may be well

2019 Apr 27 17:53:19
Moritz: May Bhante travel safely. _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 27 16:38:40
Cheav Villa: May​ the Mighty Devas protected Bhante Khemakumara along the path to Wat Sophea Khun  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 27 16:03:29
Cheav Villa: ខ្ញុំ​កូណាបាន លឺថា ព្រះអង្គ​ Kemakumara នឹង​និមន្ត ចេញពី វត្ត​អកយំ​ នៅថ្ងៃស្អែក

2019 Apr 27 16:01:32
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 27 14:28:42
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Apr 27 06:55:13
Johann: Nyom Villa

2019 Apr 27 06:54:35
Cheav Villa:   _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 27 06:31:42
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2019 Apr 27 06:09:34
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Apr 27 05:42:54
Moritz: _/\_

2019 Apr 27 00:54:04
Johann: A blessed and meritful halfmoon Sila-day

2019 Apr 25 07:32:44
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻អរព្រះគុណ ព្រះអង្គ

2019 Apr 25 04:42:51
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, Nyom. (May well-being come to fullfillment.)

2019 Apr 25 02:30:46
Ieng Puthy: តេីលោកRoman មានបំណងទៅវត្តអកយំនៅថ្ងៃណាដែរ?ព្រះអង្គ🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

2019 Apr 25 02:29:26
Ieng Puthy: ករុណានិង បងសុភឿន នឹងជូនលោកRoman ទៅវត្តអកយំបាន

2019 Apr 25 02:28:00
Ieng Puthy: ករុណានិង បង សុភឿន នឹងជួយស

2019 Apr 25 02:27:00
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាថ្វាយបង្គំុព្រះអង្គ Vandami Bhante

2019 Apr 24 17:56:05
Cheav Villa: កូណា សរសេរពួកយើង​ គឺជំនួសមុខ​ បងពុទ្ធីនិងសុភឿន  _/\_

2019 Apr 24 17:54:42
Cheav Villa: បង​ពុទ្ធី បានអោយកូណាសួរអំពីពេលវេលា​ ដែលលោកRoman នឹងទៅអកយំ _/\_

2019 Apr 24 17:52:47
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_  កូណាបាន ប្រាប់បងពុទ្ធី និង​សុ​ភឿន ប្រសិនបើគាត់អាចជួយបាន ព្រោះកូណាមិនមានសេរីភាពច្រើនដូចពួកគាត់

2019 Apr 24 17:01:34
Johann: Modern (ab)art of conversation and old patient culture...  :) great training only serious take on and rushing hide on messanger, fb, or in the ocean of Maras internet. Mudita.  :)

2019 Apr 23 13:36:18
Cheav Villa: Kana :D _/\_

2019 Apr 23 13:24:57
Johann: ? But light is always good. Oh, maybe the honey bee candles...: Atma told Upasika Sophorn to take them with her to share, since the mices would eat them away here. Mudita

2019 Apr 23 12:52:51
Cheav Villa: Kana Preah Ang  _/\_ Vithou told kana that Bhante sending us a pair of candles all through Bang Sophorn  :D _/\_

2019 Apr 23 12:06:15
Johann: Nyom Villa. Atma does not understand all circumstances but much mudita and appreciantion with sharing merits with each other, taking each other along good.

2019 Apr 23 11:04:23
Cheav Villa: កូណា ទើបបានដំណឹងពី Vithou ថាព្រះអង្គផ្ញើទានមួយគូមក តាមរយៈ​បងសុភ័ណ​ ខ្ញុំកូណា​សូម​អរព្រះគុណ​  :) _/\_

2019 Apr 23 11:02:19
Cheav Villa: ថ្វាយបង្គំ​ព្រះអង្គ  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2019 Apr 23 02:03:31
Johann: Nyom. (smilies of the common places are not visible here for many)

2019 Apr 22 17:36:16
Ieng Puthy: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻ករុណាសូមថ្វាយបង្គំុ Vandami Bhante

2019 Apr 22 15:54:07
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz  _/\_

2019 Apr 22 15:03:17
Moritz: _/\_ Bong Villa

2019 Apr 20 07:30:33
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_

2019 Apr 20 05:25:34
Moritz: _/\_ bong Vithou

2019 Apr 19 06:30:18
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2019 Apr 19 06:25:58
Moritz: _/\_ bong Villa

2019 Apr 19 06:25:48
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Dhamma-Industries - the age of pulling into marxism
« on: April 25, 2019, 09:56:39 AM »
People who struggle to manage simple things like doing merits and care for monks may wonder how such is working "so successfull" in the larger INDUSTRY and modern world.

Well, it works by pulling Dhamma-Vinaya into the world and only as far as Loka-merits can work. Do get beyond the burdens of social inaction they, Monks and their lay people, or better lay people and their monks, actually run in improper association industries or companies, using all modern tools of business. You can do merits by order via "click", credit cards, google, facebook and the Sangha is managed by bank accounts and payed stuff.

Just yesterday, my person came in touch with Bhante Ariyadhamma (the third big number of international Dhamma-industries, another German heading the Ajahn Chah Lineage and the third the Thai Dhammayut), from the Mahavihara-Lineage and thought, like always openminded, to contact him.

Don't think that one would ever be able to manage such. Modern Industries in Dhamma even still lack in professional "costumer" service. You may get mails of Dana wishes and links to click bank accounts. Non of company workers would like to see you do their jobs.

So as it looks did the housholder-Sasana of these days found great manager who grew up in social/marxistic education, who now serve as their "breeder" for new young monks having grown up and dwelling in artifact worlds or householders creations.

My person guesses that they, the Venerables are not even aware of how caught they are put would not have gained it, if not seeking after such.

So for all looking after well organized and alluring worlds of Mara, it looks great and soon all will feel like n perfect monasteries and sterile world of Dhamma, learning teaching in marxist ways, as it looks.

An you can become another famous social worker in orange, brown or ... you'll get identification and social insurance and all other other signs a modern social-monk needs for his task as well... including transports from one social-center to another...

Training courses are provided for monastics who either ordain at SBS Monk Training Centre, or for monks who join our community at a later stage of their monastic career, be it after 5, 10 or 20+ years, and who voluntarily sign up to participate in some of the courses provided here. SBS Monk Training Centre sets out to foster:

    Meditation theory and practice, which includes experimenting with and gaining proficiency in different meditation techniques which can then be skillfully applied for different purposes, times & situations
1. Dhamma knowledge and proper attitude towards the scriptures
2. Vinaya knowledge and proper attitude towards the Vinaya
3. Abhidhamma knowledge and its scrutiny in the light of Early Buddhism
4. Knowledge of important Chants (in Pāli & English)
5. Development of practical skills (sewing robes, making brooms, living under a tree, going on thudong)
6. Development of research skills with the use of modern technology and specialised software
7. The mastery of basic level Pāli, sufficient for research purposes (Advanced Pāli too, in case of individual interest)
8. Development of right speech and conversation skills that go beyond mere noble silence (e.g. “Non Violent Communication” workshops)
9. Development of verbal & digital presentation skills for giving Dhamma talks
10. Development of writing skills for DhammaVinaya essays
11. Development of Dhamma sharing skills on a Buddhist blog, newsletter, chatgroup, monastery or personal website
12. Development of administrative and leadership skills
13. Development in other areas depending on demand and interest of the resident monastics.

Note: Access to the training/courses mentioned from point ten to thirteen is dependent on vassa age and a sufficient foundation in points one to nine.

So you can become a top-manager in the worlds social-industries, for "free", instead of looking after a concern after your theoretical life, theoretical study... right out for your particular Deva/Brahma-heaven you gained birth.

What ever one seeks, one will gain. That's the way it is: Matter of Upanissaya and it's paccaya.

May there those who actually have found vision and knowledge for themselves within the Sanghas still existing in this world.


(Oh now... another Buddhadasa disciple = 100% "social" and secular...)

Beautiful... which houseolder wold not fall for such. Have to remind on a saying of Ajahn Boowa, getting luxury buildings donated... Ananda, Ananda...
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Re: Dhamma-Industries - the age of pulling into marxism
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2019, 10:07:34 AM »
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Re: Dhamma-Industries - the age of pulling into marxism
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2019, 10:53:05 AM »
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Re: Dhamma-Industries - the age of pulling into marxism
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2019, 11:04:08 AM »
Aside of the warn sign when monks using facebook, google... means of not given in-debtors for householding and are only reachable via such means:

Another typical sign of secular is the "therapeutic" way, a treatment that fits to ones sense of "political correctness" and which makes you just fit to continue .

"Non Violent Communication".... a bestseller, but not from the Buddha, who talk straight and beneficial talk , and pleasing very carefully.

My person just listened a little to a talk on "How to Determine Whether an Action Is Good or Bad ". My person could not listen long after hearing that it derives from Buddhadasas Social-doctines and the first point how to determine what is kusala and what is akusala. Only to give the further importands on "social good" is again a warning.

Here it is said "One should look what an action causes in the mind rigth after, how does it feel". So, even a person who has not learned to cite kusala-dhamma in the Mahavihara tradition and has no idea of Abhidhamma from books, but has actually practiced, knows that "kusala-dhammas sometimes cause akusala, sometimes cause kusala or sometimes cause neither..., immediately after". So what's that approach? Total not of what the Buddha taught and how the Buddha taught to discriminate kusala and akusala (given that the worldling is incapable to investigate his mind).

Isn't it that someone with a tendency to kill does it because he feels glad an happy in mind right after the akusala action? Doesn't any being act akusala because it can just see the immediately effect?

This Venerables have to be heavy rebuked for such teachings.

And how did the Buddha teach householder on kusala and akusala?

Not taking existence of others is kusala.
Not taking of what is not given is kusala.
Not indulging incorrect into flesh-lust is kusala.

Most important Sila:

Not speaking what is not true! Sacca is far over "social correctness" put by the Buddha for success (see teaching to his Son Rahula, a Samana, on kusala and akusala)

And to fall not for the four, not taking means that cause heedlessness, is kusala.

Or, if taken in ten, the ten kusala actions (mind, word, body): To Cunda the Silversmith

Since those young monks, and even if 100 Vassas, is teaching such, are youngsters, are hardly to rebuke and hide behind there householder means, my person has to place it another time here public, that those capable to understand could and people on wrong courses might be "pressured" to overthink their ways they walk and even teach others.

And by the way it's total improper to share chanting of the Patimokkha, even on google, for non-Bhikkhus.

My person has to turn away investigating even more, because it is already clear and would just cost useless effort.

May this Venerables find ways out and toward the Savaka Sangha and those with vision and knowledge, having made it clear by themselves, for the benefit of many, turn away of Maras Mohayana-paths, simply following the real tasks: help each other to path and fruits, working on right view and no social joking around and entertaining industries...

Much mudita for those who take the burden to make good in trust, kusala in trust, trust the Budddha, even if burdensome and causing often quick later only unpleasing feelings and thought. Often and often.
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Re: Dhamma-Industries - the age of pulling into marxism
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2019, 11:32:06 AM »
Here a chant of "kusala Dhamma" in classical Khmer style (Mahavihara and Maha Nikaya) with international Sangha picture as teaser, for Bhante from Youtube...



Since you industry-manager-monks with modern skills of productivity attract many with outwardly appearance, think firm on your real and long term duty and well-being for one self and many...
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Re: Dhamma-Industries - the age of pulling into marxism
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2019, 11:33:54 AM »
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កូណា​សង្ឃឹម​ថាអត្ថបទនេះនឹងជំនួយស្មារតី ដល់វគ្គវិបស្សនាខាងមុខ។

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Re: Dhamma-Industries - the age of pulling into marxism
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2019, 01:57:52 PM »
Doing an effort to leave house is always good and such as guided Vipassana courses of modern layman traditions may help.

But to make a simple prove whether it just has increased householder-upekkha or has conducted toward liberation, ask or look if the disciples of modern householder traditions are actually capable to leave house, or live in strong certain dependecy, have become real pabbajatas (homeless) or still maintain houses and "just get even more social" and "Bodhisatvas"?

My person has not met much who left the house-life and walked further into homelessness. The opposite. Many monks, for example, often leave the holly life and turn to social activities, be it just another lay-teacher.

But such is not general, yet million success toward social and wordily approaches (alternatives to the Buddhas Dhamma-Vinaya) and at the same time speedy disappearing of the Sangha and to walk the holly life.

Ask Bhante Indaññāno where he gained more lasting insight: while experiences a guided Vipassana curse or actually left home really without outward refuge, going to Sri Lanka without much securities outside. Yet, if not having made such a curse, he might not have been capable to really taste the holly life a little. But even a Vipassana or meditation curse is actually only just like learning in school. Whether one has gained real foundation on the path needs it's proof by leaving the keys behind and close the door from outside. Then one knows, then one sees the Dhamma clear or the work left to do.

If one goes to such a Vipassana course, one should not think on returning after 15 days. That's important! Whether later physical returning out of duties or not.

Like and promote the Dhamma-Industry as wished, like Socialism, it easy thought as benefit for many, but its also difficult to see lures of Mara. May person would just say: "Get to know it and then decide further." and prefers to promote the Buddhas Religion, the Sangha of homeless away from worlds industries. Also to provide certain places for rejoicing and merits for householders as the Vipassana-disciples, the householder from there, have actually no more Sangha as refuge at all but would gather as "all are equal". Monks and lay people, if even gather, gather like homies, family friends and "eat on one table", discussing marketing strategies for their Dhamma-business and projects.

Or ask Nyom Moritz who also did such courses, whether he gained more deep confidence into Dhamma at such courses or here and there in a very unconventional and wildness Dhamma forest while doing Vipassana while doing such ordinary things like looking after tasks, translating, helping...

It's a great lure this modern "perfect" designed industries and many only know working in concerns never had a real chief, never learned about fundamental things like goodness and gratitude, duties... This sensual Deva-worlds (sugati), one should not forget, have Deva Mara (paranimmita-vasavatti deva) as their highest fuehrer and he has an easy to play with his Devas delight and pride an ease to manage the industry and it's managers.

This paranimmita-vasavatti deva of today who act as high manager in the Sangha today have therefore to thinks very sacca of what they are actually doing, having great power and great possibilities. When the Bhahmas of the Sasana start to follow and introduce marxism to be more productive for the "Sasana" and use householder means and pleasure for their marketing that it becomes really really dark in the light of Mara.
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Re: Dhamma-Industries - the age of pulling into marxism
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2019, 02:05:46 PM »
កូណាអរ​ព្រះគុណ​ ព្រះ​អង្គ ជួយស្រាយបំភ្លឺ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

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Re: Dhamma-Industries - the age of pulling into marxism
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2019, 02:13:10 PM »
Don't take and believe simply. Just find out for yourself. For Nyom Cheav Villa , since he does not tend so much to meditation sessions, it would be very good to make a Vipasssana curse at "Chicken cage". Can Nyom do that? 15 days, no speaking, not busy at all, just watching the mind. "The Hell for Helper"  :)
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Re: Dhamma-Industries - the age of pulling into marxism
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2019, 02:23:09 PM »
កូណា ព្រះអង្គ​ :-X :'(

ជាការរងាយស្រួលក្នុងការមើលគេ តែងលំបាក​និងភ្លេចមើលខ្លួន
ប្រហែលជាសេចក្តីទុក្ខគ្របដណ្តប់​ខ្លួនមិនទាន់ឆ្អែត​
ទឹក មិនដល់ច្រមុះខ្លួន  :D
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Re: Dhamma-Industries - the age of pulling into marxism
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2019, 03:05:28 PM »
So Nyom Ieng Puthy and Nyom Sophoeun need to tread Nyom hard to do a Vipassana curse as well! Good so!

But further on "pulling into marxism"

Some about the origin of modern Vipassana



(Playback on other websites has been disabled by the video owner: Vipassana Center today has to look for income, of course. Old sponsors like Sir Goenka himself, might have gone lost after his death)

Or Mahasi Sayadaw, the root of this traditions here.

Having seen also this movie after some pictures of him, many people will "hate" my person when telling that this was for sure nor Arahat and at all not a person with Sati his own. He is not even able to sit silent. As many others in this tradition scholars and social political revolutionaries.



There are less monks left of this tradition. Most are social workers and lay dhamma teacher, having been attracted by this social approaches. Others are activists and people at large know the firm situation of a country no more with a King. A paying field for global fights likewise, till today. The whole jewish Dhamma-trade, the whole western teaching are originated from this branches.

Also when we look at respected Sir Goenka. He was an Industrial and his teacher a high state politician.

It's not categorical bad this householders social ideas, but they to easy run to demands while being social should be just a duty and tend strong to world and less to Nibbana. It destructs holly things like gods, leaders, parents and Samanas and replaces community and and productivity as their god or higher devotion (Ankar), using as means to create a heavenly Samsara to keep all caught.

Look if you find any monk within there not using a social network, using founds of a social network, being really a wandering beggar without householder signs? Any who lives the life of a bird?

Western people, those who came from the origin of the secular world and destruction of holly things and all religions, have been attracted by modern monks using their modern means and ideas, to export the Sasana.

Most people would believe that Burma, Sri Lanka Thailand are the main and important countries, since having adopted western ways, socio-politic and with it its promotions, propaganda and very less would recognize the last Sasana-state in the world and it's difference, against the main stream and outwardly by far not visible Khema hearts still searching for further resits in a world where different values disappear. Certain perfections (parami) not to be seen by those blinded by Mara.
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Re: Dhamma-Industries - the age of pulling into marxism
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2019, 03:29:01 PM »
ខ្ញុំកូណា​យល់ស្រប :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

ព្រោះមើលឃើញលោកអ្នកសម្តែងធម៌ភាគច្រើន មិនងាយបដិបត្តិតាមធម៌ពិតមែន។ ជាហេតុដែល
ខ្ញុំកូណាជាយូរមកហើយចូលចិត្តតែស្តាប់ធម៌​ អានធម៌​ តែមិនបានដឹងវិធីបដិបត្តិ​ធម៌​ អោយបានត្រឹមត្រូវ
ព្រោះនិស្ស័យនៅខ្ចី និងមិនងាយបានជួប​សេពគប់​សប្បុរស​ពិត​ និង ព្រះ​អរិយដែលលោកបានបដិបត្តិរួចហើយ។

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I, Brah Karuna, really understand.

Because having seen many Sirs spreading the Dhamma but the meaning/message in training has not been seen.
That has been the reason why Kana before tended to and loved to listen the Dhamma, read the Dhamma, but did not know the undertaking of practicing the Dhamma in the right way.

Because Nissaya was still unripe and never met to assossiate with real generosity/goodness and Ariya that have practiced already to an end.


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Re: Dhamma-Industries - the age of pulling into marxism
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2019, 01:29:59 AM »
...we should note at the outset that total training in the Buddha's path requires that Dhamma and Vinaya function together. In theory they may be separate, but in the person who practices them they merge as qualities developed in the mind and character.

- Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa -

"Gotamī, the qualities of which you may know, 'These qualities lead to dispassion, not to passion; to being unfettered and not to being fettered; to shedding and not to accumulating; to modesty and not to self-aggrandizement; to contentment and not to discontent; to seclusion and not to entanglement; to aroused energy and not to LAZINESS; to being unburdensome and not to being burdensome': You may definitely hold, 'This is the Dhamma, this is the Vinaya, this is the Teacher's instruction.'" — Cv.X.5

Ultimately, the Buddha said, just as the sea has a single taste, that of salt, so too the Dhamma and Vinaya have a single taste: that of release. The connection between discipline and release is spelled out in a passage that recurs at several points in the Canon:

- Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa -

"Discipline is for the sake of restraint, restraint for the sake of freedom from remorse, freedom from remorse for the sake of joy, joy for the sake of rapture, rapture for the sake of tranquility, tranquility for the sake of pleasure, pleasure for the sake of concentration, concentration for the sake of knowledge and vision of things as they have come to be, knowledge and vision of things as they have come to be for the sake of disenchantment, disenchantment for the sake of dispassion, dispassion for the sake of release, release for the sake of knowledge and vision of release, knowledge and vision of release for the sake of total unbinding through non-clinging." — Pv.XII.2
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Re: Dhamma-Industries - the age of pulling into marxism
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2019, 02:08:34 AM »
ខ្ញុំកូណា​យល់ស្រប :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

ព្រោះមើលឃើញលោកអ្នកសម្តែងធម៌ភាគច្រើន មិនងាយបដិបត្តិតាមធម៌ពិតមែន។ ជាហេតុដែល
ខ្ញុំកូណាជាយូរមកហើយចូលចិត្តតែស្តាប់ធម៌​ អានធម៌​ តែមិនបានដឹងវិធីបដិបត្តិ​ធម៌​ អោយបានត្រឹមត្រូវ
ព្រោះនិស្ស័យនៅខ្ចី និងមិនងាយបានជួប​សេពគប់​សប្បុរស​ពិត​ និង ព្រះ​អរិយដែលលោកបានបដិបត្តិរួចហើយ។

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I, Brah Karuna, really understand.

Because having seen many Sirs spreading the Dhamma but the meaning/message in training has not been seen.
That has been the reason why Kana before tended to and loved to listen the Dhamma, read the Dhamma, but did not know the undertaking of practicing the Dhamma in the right way.

Because Nissaya was still unripe and never met to assossiate with real generosity/goodness and Ariya that have practiced already to an end.


* Johann : translation draft added.

Mudita

Less are those who would not quickly fall into papanca , having a-yoniso-mahāsikkha, turn the topic into a matter of views and politics, not seeing that Samvega is not an encouragement to fall into meaningless pointless social-actions, but turn back right there where it's origin lasts and could be cut off.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

I will tell
of how
I experienced
samvega.
Seeing people floundering
like fish in small puddles,
competing with one another–

   as I saw this,
   fear came into me.

The world was entirely
without substance.
All the directions
were knocked out of line.
Wanting a haven for myself,
I saw nothing
that wasn’t laid claim to.
Seeing nothing in the end
but competition,
I felt discontent.

Rather than trying to solve the problem by looking for a larger puddle for himself or his fellow fish, he looked inside to see why people would want to be fish in the first place. What he found was an arrow embedded in his own heart:

   And then I saw
   an arrow here,
so very hard to see,
embedded in the heart.
Overcome by this arrow
you run in all directions.
But simply
   on pulling it out
   you don’t run,
   you don’t sink.
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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2019, 03:44:56 AM »
  សាធុ​សាធុ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

កូណា ព្រះអង្គ ព្រួញត្រូវបានរកឃើញ ទីកន្លែងដកព្រួញក៏បានរកឃើញ នៅរង់ចាំតែពេលវេលា​ នឹងមកដល់។

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Sadhu Sadhu

Kana (yes), Brah Ang, the arrow has to been seen (found) at the place (hole) where the arrow can be found, awaiting for the time to arrive there.


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