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2020 Jan 19 15:01:46
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2020 Jan 19 10:20:11
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2020 Jan 19 10:03:16
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 18 08:14:54
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2020 Jan 18 05:57:52
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2020 Jan 17 19:19:18
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 17 18:37:01
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2020 Jan 17 18:14:15
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 17 13:39:36
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2020 Jan 17 13:39:19
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2020 Jan 17 10:29:19
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2020 Jan 17 08:45:08
Chanroth: សូមលាហើយ

2020 Jan 17 08:33:16
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 17 06:56:27
Johann: A blessed and fruitful Uposatha, those observing it today.

2020 Jan 17 06:45:45
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 17 06:44:49
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 16 23:01:31
Moritz: Mr. Lew _/\_

2020 Jan 15 14:16:00
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 15 11:15:29
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 15 11:12:01
Johann: Nyom

2020 Jan 15 10:24:02
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Jan 15 10:21:50
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 15 10:11:56
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 22:22:36
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 12 22:04:02
Moritz: _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:34:30
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:31:02
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, may happiness come to fullfillment, all

2020 Jan 12 21:27:15
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ Visitor _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:26:54
Cheav Villa:  Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:26:06
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:24:21
Moritz: Visitor _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:24:09
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:23:59
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:23:50
Johann: Good on working isn't a bad reservation. Sokh chomreoun

2020 Jan 12 21:16:12
Cheav Villa: I kana in working conditions in the ministry  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 17:24:45
Johann: How is Nyom Villa doing? Seems as if more reserved

2020 Jan 11 21:30:11
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 11 21:27:10
Johann: On the other side it's just visible for Aramika, so also fine to leave it as it is.

2020 Jan 11 21:18:06
Johann: but possible good to change it, since looking of course strange

2020 Jan 11 21:17:02
Johann: The visitor account, since enail needed, has Atmas email, yes. Nothing wrong, Nyom.

2020 Jan 11 21:10:13
Cheav Villa: Mr. Visitor is using Bhante mail on Sangham ^-^ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 11 17:28:39
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 Jan 11 17:19:29
Johann: Well then. Mudita. And to use old account is also no problem, or a new one.

2020 Jan 11 17:13:25
Visitor:  *sgift* Will return soon. will share one from lot.  :) Stay healthy. Be happy.

2020 Jan 11 17:06:13
Johann: Sure, why not? An also sure that Atma will try what ever possible that Nyom-Deva would take on existance where Dhamma can completely comprehended. My Nyom do as he feels fit and inspired.

2020 Jan 11 17:03:02
Visitor: For I am out of community and practice to be independent too -- decided when couldn't find Gem(liberated one, buddha, venerable).

2020 Jan 11 17:00:13
Visitor: If I share one of those practices, will uncle allow that? Will uncle give way to me to give as a 'Visitor'? Even when it's out of community.

2020 Jan 11 16:57:53
Johann: It's importand to see that liberation is possible, and people having gained independency are met = Savaka Sangha

2020 Jan 11 16:55:26
Johann: It's importand, aside of the deva-messangers, birth, sickness, aging death, to meet the Buddha, Arahat, Samana, so that real Saddha may arise. Books hardly can provide such "it's not just a story"

2020 Jan 11 16:50:04
Visitor: Practice leads to experience -coming slowly-2 me already. Did uncle find any Gems(Ven. Buddha) to associate with?

2020 Jan 11 16:45:42
Johann: Only by practicing and association with the Gems can Dhamma be gained. Consuming 1000 book wouldn't help

2020 Jan 11 16:43:02
Johann: What does one, seeing his decay, keep him from sharing?

2020 Jan 11 16:41:31
Johann: Giving ways to let others give is also a-maccariya

2020 Jan 11 16:39:42
Johann: And books are lasting? Sharing about oldage, sickness and death is teaching the 1 Noble truth very real, or?

2020 Jan 11 16:35:58
Visitor: What does old uncle want to offer when he is also impermanent? Dhamma-it's already in books! Experience-it will come soon to me too.

2020 Jan 11 16:30:29
Johann: If needing something, just let it be known (any language

2020 Jan 11 16:29:50
Johann: Nyom unknown

2020 Jan 11 16:28:47
Visitor:  *thumb* :-\ :( ;-) *gift*

2020 Jan 11 08:13:55
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2020 Jan 11 08:11:25
Moritz: Oh, I just wanted to write something to you, Bong Villa. But now have to go, driving taxi. ^-^ Later. _/\_ Chom reap leah

2020 Jan 11 08:05:56
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 11 07:46:49
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 10 19:57:45
Johann: Bhante

2020 Jan 10 19:37:57
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Bhante

2020 Jan 10 16:11:19
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 10 12:07:13
Johann: Sokh chomreoun Nyom

2020 Jan 10 11:34:53
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 10 11:08:47
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 10 11:00:22
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 10 06:05:50
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 10 05:02:29
Johann: May those keeping the full moon Uposatha today, spend an auspicious time engaged in merits

2020 Jan 09 20:17:28
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 20:07:28
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 18:57:51
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Those who have confidence in the Awakened One have confidence in what is supreme; and for those with confidence in the supreme, supreme is the result.

2020 Jan 09 17:33:14
Cheav Villa:  :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 16:13:20
Johann: No problem at all.

2020 Jan 09 16:12:52
Johann: Atma wrote: Oh, master Moritz celebrates his Birthday today. And if remembering right, just one day before Mastress Sophorn.

2020 Jan 09 16:11:21
Johann:  :)

2020 Jan 09 16:10:58
Johann: oh that is bad: Nyom needs to cite Thor Twai bpngum 5 times

2020 Jan 09 16:09:02
Cheav Villa: I kana sorry for deleted <.I.> _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 16:05:44
Cheav Villa: All the best wishes to you Master Moritz  _/\_ :D

2020 Jan 09 08:29:01
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 09 07:08:24
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Sadhu

2020 Jan 09 06:16:07
Johann: A blessed Uposatha those who maintain it today

2020 Jan 09 04:50:31
Khemakumara: Nyom

2020 Jan 08 22:06:08
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Jan 08 21:45:09
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 08 20:55:46
Khemakumara: Nyom

2020 Jan 08 20:47:42
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 08 18:48:15
Johann: Bhante

2020 Jan 08 18:17:17
Khemakumara:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 08 15:14:05
Johann: Nyom

2020 Jan 08 14:02:20
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 08 08:04:30
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 07 21:10:49
Johann: Sadhu, Sadhu

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Dieses neue Thema (bzw. diese/r Beitrag/e) wurde  aus abgetrennten Beiträgen, ursprünglich in Unique visitors at the same time up to 7.000 , hinzugefügt. Für ev. ergänzende Informationen zur sehen Sie bitte das Ursprugsthema ein. Anumodana!
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Okasa Bhante

Venerable members of the Sangha,
Venerable fellows,

Buddhaparisata,

Not sure if accidently but the last days it's hard to open pages and next to server-errors (out of capacity) pages are not reachable for sometime two hours, at least for my person, not sure how it works for others.

How ever, maybe good to take it as case for some adjustments.

Since longer thinking that it's actually not so proper to feed trade and at least the huge tradewar on those bond to certain commercial services with the alms giving in faith, possible useless wasted by feeding search-engines and content selling pages, my person thinks it's good to raise again the question whether it wouldn't be proper to make all lesser appearing like a common social service place like a park or street marked.

The place and content, not at least, being dedicated toward the Sublime Sangha of the eight directions and it's faithfull following and of course also ALL who might be interested, possible earns more care to be kept out of things currently also more traceable arise which seemingly many are not so aware, incl. many Venerables as well (sadly to much using this "feedoms"...).

Since Dhamma and a monastery, places of practice, are not at all thought as advertising ways and to gain "costumers", this sites are not thought as means to present "means of services or products", it might be possible good to turn them more away from the highways, which does of course not change the objectives but possible restrict only harmful and improper use. So the long and strict observing of virtues of not excluding (even banner or deny access... sadly also very common) will be not really touched if making access "only" possible by using a given (also given to take) account for the most content. Some might feel even more comfortable with it.

For those after gains: may this be even for their objected wishes a little pit more of benefit. May they gain as much as possible for the supply of their happiness.

Such things like the possibility to use a guest account... may be good to keep, since nothing would be hide away, like before, of course.

Before possible starting to try to configue the access possibilities for unregistered and also search for certain third part connections and make all more "privat", better more conscious in regard of use, my person would like to ask first of all the generous supporter, maintainer and caretaker, foremost of the places, Upasika Sophorn , Upasaka Moritz , Upasika Cheav Villa  whether such lesser public and unconscious access possibility would be well and fine for you? It should be foremost not and lesser burdensome for you.

Not secondary at all, my person would like to ask the Venerables as well and it may be understood as being received gratefully to get what ever thoughts in regard of this matter for the Venerables most comfortable use without any need of remorse. May person ask a second... a third time for advices in this issue: making most content only accessable in more conscious ways by using given (invited given also to take) account.

Of course what ever ideas and thoughts of all others comming, near and far, across here are welcome.

May my person not having burdened to much with raising this issue and may the effects of it cause much gain of more ease for most possible many.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2019, 05:20:27 AM by Johann »
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Ein oder mehrer Beiträge wurden hier im Thema abgeschnitten und damit in neues Thema "feedback traffic, accessibility  " eröffnet, dem angehäng.
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Vandami Bhante _/\_

From my view it would be okay to restrict access for guests so that they would need to register.

I just tried out disabling in the admin settings  "Features and Options -> Allow guests to browse the forum".

The result looks like in the attached screenshot.

One could still display some information in the TinyPortal blocks. For example the "Welcome" block, the "Recent topics" and list of "New uploads" are still visible. But when clicking on a link to see the forum posts or to download a file, one has to log in.

Maybe it would be good to just de-activate this setting.

One could leave a guest account with password for login to be seen publically on the welcome page in human readable form, so that a human could understand and use it if necessary, while possibly encouraging to register and use an own account.

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_

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There is surely a huge work behind, knowing the manifold permission structure and it might be to expect same for ati as well.

Since huge work, good to be clear about effects, benefits, backwards.
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There is surely a huge work behind, knowing the manifold permission structure and it might be to expect same for ati as well.

Since huge work, good to be clear about effects, benefits, backwards.

At the moment, to solve the problem of bots using up all traffic in the package, I think it would be enough to simply disable the "Allow guests to browse the forum" setting and then see for one month how it affects traffic on sangham.net.
Forum posts and downloads would then not be accessible if not logged in, so not much traffic from unregistered bots could happen anymore. Visitors would just see the portal page, but any links leading into the forum would need log-in.

Other sites (accesstoinsight.eu mostly) don't seem affected much from "bot traffic". At least there has not been such a huge increase, in comparison to sangham.net, over recent months. I think the bots just have more "interesting stuff" (including probably the TinyPortal file downloads) to find in the forum.

So no real work at all for this first "emergency measure".

Probably good to adjust the welcome text with some explanation, maybe showing log-in information for the Visitor account there.

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_

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If Nyom wishes to do so, it does not seem to be harmfull for anyone and protective of what has been given in faith. The many adjustments, blocks, translations... can be made on and on.

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I disabled the "allow guests to browse the forum" option now.

At the moment I don't find where to edit the "Welcome" block and also do not yet have a good idea what to write there.

Not sure yet if anything else would need adjusting, but think that would be all for the most necessary.

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_

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Atma made the "Virtual Dhamma-Vinaya Vihara - sangham.net"-block visible on index-page (previous only pprtal page). Need to play alittle around with positions to look fine and propably merge it with the visitor-block, not in top panel position.
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Un-done. Possible Nyom did similar with better "Dear Visitor" block. Semms fine for the first.
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I did not do anything till now. But just found again where the TP blocks are to be edited.
No good idea what to write now and at the moment have some other things to do. But I could look at it later and try to find a good text.
There are some links in these blocks which are now not accessible anymore for guests.

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Oh, there is a lot to do, on many places.

Sketch (German) of new text

Quote from: Lieber Besucher-Block
Ehrwürdiges Mitglied der Sangha,
Ehrenwerter Gefährte,

Werter Laienanhänger, Laienanhängerin (Upasaka, Upasika)

Geachtet und geschätzte Buddhaparisata (Mitglieder der Versammlung um den Buddha), liebe Interesierte und Besucher,

gerne, jederzeit und freudig gegeben mögen Sie sich ein Zugangkonto anlegen, oder eine email senden um eines anlegen zu lassen. Um schnellen Zugang zu erlagen, können Besucher auch das Besucherkonto (Nutzername: Besucher, PW: B tTr84$ , ohne Leerzeichen, beide t klein geschrieben) verwenden.

Aufgrund der starken Aufruffrequenz der Seite, und so nicht unnötig Gaben an die Sangha verschwendet werden, ist nun der Zugang mittels Konto erforderlich.

Viel Freude und Nutzen für Höchstes im Kennenlernen des etwas abgelegenen Dhamma-Dschungels. Wenn was immer Schwierigkeiten und Hindernisse auftreten mögen, bitte nicht zögern auch etwa eine Email zu schreiben.

Thought? Good, if possible that language is chosen by browser language) to take the occasion to sperate the blocks according language (needs then to be done for all blocks).

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My person has now made the forum for visitor accessable again, having taken off many other boards for visitor access as well as all downloads, since all other ways would require a lot of work on many places.

Maybe Nyom Moritz can take an eye on over-use of resources and whether it is enough restriction for improper use of resources.
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The thought just came to mind, of course could not be managed by my person: It might be possible to enable/disable browsing the forum by check of traffic of visitors. Say for example if there are more then 200 visitors => disable, and check within certain time to enable.

The info-text, when disabled, would be found in any of the lang-phps where if could be rendered.

"Traffic jam prevention: Currently there was to much unconscious traffic. Please login to access the monastery and feel invited to take an account (if not having yet) to have a pleasing dwelling."
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_/\_ _/\_ _/\_

My person has now made the forum for visitor accessable again, having taken off many other boards for visitor access as well as all downloads, since all other ways would require a lot of work on many places.

Maybe Nyom Moritz can take an eye on over-use of resources and whether it is enough restriction for improper use of resources.

Sadhu. Not much time at the moment. Probably good already that downloads are turned off for visitors now. Maybe the rest is not so much traffic. I will try to keep an eye on resource use.


The thought just came to mind, of course could not be managed by my person: It might be possible to enable/disable browsing the forum by check of traffic of visitors. Say for example if there are more then 200 visitors => disable, and check within certain time to enable.

The info-text, when disabled, would be found in any of the lang-phps where if could be rendered.

"Traffic jam prevention: Currently there was to much unconscious traffic. Please login to access the monastery and feel invited to take an account (if not having yet) to have a pleasing dwelling."


That should be possible somehow. Just had to deal with something similar, using the leaky bucket algorithm. Maybe possible to use the same concept here. Maybe I have time on Sunday to look at it.

_/\_ _/\_ _/\_


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Sadhu

One of my persons teacher, water-management, he died relatively young, always said, that the field of calculations in the area of water-managements is very in-explored in mathematics. The simple methods probably work well enough and who cares much about how much water flows over an overflow lasher once passing one's area... 

Water-management, retention basins... there are simply methods, models, matching the cases.
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