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2024 Mar 24 19:07:11
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ 😌

2024 Mar 24 14:13:29
blazer: Bhante Dhammañāṇa  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Mar 24 06:25:25
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed full moon Uposatha by following the conducts of the Arahats.

2024 Mar 23 13:11:16
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_

2024 Mar 21 01:07:56
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom

2024 Mar 21 00:28:58
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Mar 20 14:25:49
blazer: Bhante Dhammañāṇa  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Mar 20 12:06:29
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom

2024 Mar 20 11:24:06
blazer: Good morning everyone  _/\_

2024 Mar 18 21:42:50
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Mar 18 19:43:59
Dhammañāṇa: Mudita, Nyom.

2024 Mar 18 19:36:35
blazer: Bhante Dhammañāṇa  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Undertaking this Sila day at my best.

2024 Mar 18 06:17:10
Dhammañāṇa: Those who undertake the Sila day today: may it be of much metta.

2024 Mar 18 02:16:41
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Mar 17 21:09:31
អរិយវង្ស: 🚬🚬🚬

2024 Mar 17 06:30:53
Dhammañāṇa: Metta-full Sila day, those after it today.

2024 Mar 17 00:02:34
blazer: Bhante Dhammañāṇa  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Mar 11 09:16:04
Dhammañāṇa: Once totally caught by google, AI and machines, every door has been closed for long, long term.

2024 Mar 11 09:14:04
Dhammañāṇa: People at large just wait that another would do his/her duty. Once a slight door to run back, they are gone. By going again just for debts, the wheel of running away turns on.

2024 Mar 10 18:59:10
Dhammañāṇa: Less are those who don't use the higher Dhamma not for defilement-defence, less those who don't throw the basics away and turn back to sensuality "with ease".

2024 Mar 10 06:51:11
Dhammañāṇa: A auspicious new-moon Uposatha for those observing it today.

2024 Mar 09 06:34:39
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed New-moon Uposatha, and birth reminder day of a monarchy of wonders.

2024 Mar 08 21:39:54
Dhammañāṇa: The best way to keep an Ashram silent is to put always duties and Sila high. If wishing it populated, put meditation (eating) on the first place.

2024 Mar 03 21:27:27
Dhammañāṇa: May those undertaking the Sila day today, spend it off in best ways, similar those who go after the days purpose tomorrow.

2024 Feb 25 22:10:33
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 24 06:42:35
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Māgha Pūjā and Full moon Uposatha with much reason for good recallings of goodness.

2024 Feb 24 01:50:55
blazer: Bhante Dhammañāṇa  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 23 06:39:57
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom

2024 Feb 23 00:19:58
blazer: Taken flu again... at least leg pain has been better managed since many weeks and it's the greatest benefit. Hope Bhante Dhammañāṇa is fine  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 18 01:06:43
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 18 00:02:37
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 17 18:47:31
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed rest of todays Sila-day.

2024 Feb 17 18:46:59
Dhammañāṇa: Chau Marco, chau...

2024 Feb 16 23:32:59
blazer: Just ended important burocratic and medical stuff. I will check for a flight for Cambodia soon  _/\_

2024 Feb 09 16:08:32
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 09 12:17:31
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 09 06:42:17
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a blessed New moon Uposatha and last day of the Chinese year of the rabbit, entering the Year of the Naga wisely.

2024 Feb 02 21:17:28
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Feb 02 19:53:28
Dhammañāṇa: May all have the possibility to spend a pleasing rest of Sila day, having given goodness and spend a faultless day.

2024 Jan 26 14:40:25
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Jan 25 10:02:46
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a blessed Full moon Uposatha.

2024 Jan 11 06:37:21
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Jan 07 06:31:20
Dhammañāṇa: May many, by skilful deeds,  go for real and lasting independence today

2024 Jan 06 18:00:36
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Jan 04 16:57:17
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2024 Jan 04 12:33:08
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Sila-day, full of metta in thoughts, speech and deeds.

2023 Dec 30 20:21:07
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 27 23:18:38
Dhammañāṇa: May the rest of a bright full moon Uposatha serve many as a blessed day of good deeds.

2023 Dec 26 23:12:17
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 24 16:52:50
Dhammañāṇa: May all who celebrated the birth of their prophet, declaring them his ideas of reaching the Brahma realm, spend peaceful days with family and reflect the goodness near around them, virtuous, generously.

2023 Dec 20 21:36:37
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 20 06:54:09
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Sila day, by conducting in peacefull manners.

2023 Dec 12 23:45:24
blazer:  _/\_

2023 Dec 12 20:34:26
Dhammañāṇa: choice, yes  :)

2023 Dec 12 13:23:35
blazer: If meaning freedom of choice i understand and agree

2023 Dec 12 12:48:42
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 12 06:13:23
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a great New Moon Uposatha, following the conducts of the Arahats.

2023 Dec 10 12:51:16
Dhammañāṇa: The more freedom of joice, the more troubled in regard of what's right, what's wrong. My person does not say that people at large are prepared for freedom of joice even a little.

2023 Dec 10 10:59:42
blazer: Hope they eat more mindfully than how they talk. It is clear for the gross food, we had more than a talk about this topic. I have put so much effort in mindful eating at the temple, but when i was back i wanted more refined food. I was used to get a choice of more than 10 dishes every day

2023 Dec 10 06:57:44
Dhammañāṇa: A person eating on unskilled thoughts will last defiled, Nyom. Gross food does nothing for purification at all.

2023 Dec 09 21:41:58
blazer: I've had a couple of not nice experiences with monks that were not so pure in my opinion. They surely eat far better than me at temple.

2023 Dec 09 21:41:41
blazer: Ven. Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Dec 09 11:38:36
Dhammañāṇa: Spiritual prostitution, just another way of livelihood.

2023 Dec 05 20:59:38
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a pleasing rest of Sila-day.

2023 Nov 27 14:47:22
អរិយវង្ស:   _/\_ _/\__/\_

2023 Nov 27 05:41:32
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a blessed Anapanasati- Fullmoon and reflect the goodness of Ven Sāriputta as well today.

2023 Nov 20 19:18:13
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 20 18:20:15
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a pleasing rest of Sila-day.

2023 Nov 20 02:48:24
Moritz: Hello _/\_ Still possible to join: An-other Journey into the East 2023/24

2023 Nov 18 13:55:11
blazer: Hello everyone  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 12 01:09:01
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom

2023 Nov 12 00:45:21
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 09 19:42:10
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 09 07:17:02
Dhammañāṇa: សិលា​នាំ​ទៅ​រក​ឯករាជ្យ​នៃ​ជាតិ! សូមឱ្យមនុស្សជាច្រើនប្រារព្ធទិវាឯករាជ្យ(ពី)ជាតិ។

2023 Nov 09 07:06:56
Dhammañāṇa: Sila leads to independence of Jati! May many observe a conductive Independence day.

2023 Nov 07 00:54:02
Dhammañāṇa: Nyoum

2023 Nov 07 00:39:55
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 06 15:47:51
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Nov 06 12:21:27
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Sila observation day today.

2023 Oct 30 15:17:36
Dhammañāṇa: It's common in to give up that what's given to do assist me toward release, common that seeking security in what binds.

2023 Oct 30 13:22:27
អរិយវង្ស: ព្រះអង្គ :) កូណាលុប delta chat ហើយ :D _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Oct 23 18:56:09
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Oct 22 20:36:01
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a pleasing rest of this Sila-day.

2023 Oct 19 20:31:12
Dhammañāṇa: Nyom Sreyneang

2023 Oct 15 07:07:01
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Oct 14 06:53:21
Dhammañāṇa: May all spend a New moon Uposatha based on goodwill for all, find seclusion in the middle of family duties.

2023 Sep 29 07:35:30
blazer:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 29 07:23:47
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 29 07:03:11
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed full moon Uposatha and begin of the ancestor weeks by lived metta and virtue: lived gratitude toward all being, toward one self.

2023 Sep 22 22:07:43
Dhammañāṇa: If no rush turn toward reducing sensuality and make Silas the top of priority, it's to fear that an Atomic conflic will be chosen soon, in the battle of control of the "drugs".

2023 Sep 22 14:59:39
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 22 06:35:51
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Uposatha Observance on this Sila-day, by conducting similar the Arahats.

2023 Sep 16 19:29:27
blazer: Ven. Johann  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 16 19:29:13
blazer: Hello everyone! I've just come back home. I had a long trip and no sleep for more than 30 hours, but currently feel quite good. I've had a good experience, i'm happy. I've found out much inspiration and many ideas about the training and the holy life. I'll recollect and write about them as soon as i've taken some rest. Hope to find you all well and in good health  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 15 05:25:24
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2023 Sep 14 21:09:49
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed rest of New moon Uposatha today (later as no connection before).

2023 Sep 10 01:55:47
អរិយវង្ស:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_?

2023 Sep 09 18:52:54
Dhammañāṇa: No existence, no 'way of life', can excel the finally journey, just 'busy' in given away all of what ever made one's own. A total remorse-less existence. May many go for it, and see the way toward the deathless, no more worry of past, future and present as well.

2023 Sep 09 18:52:28
Dhammañāṇa: No existence, no 'way of life', can excel the finally journey, just 'busy' in given away all of what ever made one's own. A total remorse-less existence. May many go for it, and see the way toward the deathless, no more worry of past, future and present as well.

2023 Sep 08 06:19:20
Dhammañāṇa: A blessed Sila day, by maintaining goodwill toward all, not only by deeds and speech, but with nine factors, incl. a mind full of metta.

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Author Topic: Haushälter? wie ist das dhammisch zu verstehen | What's a householder?  (Read 2252 times)

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Kürzlich stattete Atma kurzen Besuch in einem österreichischen "Esoterik"-treffplatz ab.

Man kann sich vorstellen, wenn Atma etwas kennend, daß dieses zu viel Unruhe in Saus und Braus, führte, nicht zu letzt deshalb weil hofflich mit Stand Petsonen angesprochen. Diese ungewohnte Adressierung vermochte jedes Thema in ganz verschiedene Spekulationen ausarten.

Upasika angela war eine der wenigen, die nicht nur nachfragte, was es mit der Ansprache aufsich hat, sondern machte sich auch vertieft Gedanken.

Atma denkt, daß es nicht nur für andere interessant sein mag dieses Thema, in einem Thema "Ursache des Leidens" aufgekommen, vielleicht bis zur höchsten Einsicht hier weiter zu behandeln, und wiederholt hier eingehend die kurze Abhandlung im Trubel für möglich vertiefte Behandlung:

Quote from: Upasika Angela
Herzlich Willkommen!

was meinst Du mit Heimerhalter?

lieben Gruß

Quote from: Johann
Dieses ist eine sehr tiefgrundige Frage, eine gute, vorallem eine klärende, sicher ein Thema wert und nicht so schnell abgetan, wenn man es in jeder Hinsicht verstehen möchte, gute Standerhälterin.

Dazwischen kurz das Thema Respekterweisen und Dhp 109 besprochen.

Quote from: Upasika Angela
wenn Du also vom "Heim" sprichst, das beziehst Du Dich unter anderem auf die vier göttlichen "Wohnstätten"
>brahma vihara, ganz kurz gefasst:
Liebesgüte, Mitgefühl, Freude und Gleichmut?

Quote from: Johann
Diese Erhabenen Aufenthalte sind für einen Geist am Haus haltend (um hier auch die höhere Bedeutung anzusprechen: Sinne) nicht erreichbar.

Haushälter hat zweierlei, aber meist insichgreifende Bedeutungen: die eine beschreibt den körperlichen Lebensunterhalt und Aufenthalt, und die zweite den geistigen, die Gegenstände des Unterhalts für den Geist. So hat auch Hauslosigkeit, Heimatlos, zweierlei, nicht so oft insichgreifende Bedeutungen.

Allgemein wird solch Unterscheidung über den Lebensunterhalt getroffen, in Ebenen von Äußerlichkeiten passend unterschieden.

Aber auch die Brahmawelten stellen noch immer keine Hauslosigkeit dar, auch wenn Erhabener Stand, Brahma.

Ist dies soweit für Haushälterin verständlich?

Quote from: Upasika Angela
ich muss da erstmal drüber nachsinnen,

wir haben da 2 verschiedene Definitionen von Haus...ich hab noch nicht ganz erfasst, wie das zu begreifen ist, aber ich gehe sehr stark davon aus, das ich da etwas lernen kann und deswegen tauche ich da tiefer ein

e d i t >der Garten liegt wohl hinter dem Haus?

vielen Dank erstmal für deine weitere Erklärung

Quote from: Upasika Angela einige Stunden später
Magst Du nochmal ein paar Worte mehr zum Thema haus verlieren?
welches Haus ist hier genau gemeint?
ein Gedankegebäude? bzw ein Denkgebäude? oder der Körper mit seinen irdischen Sinnen? oder beides, oder keins von beiden?

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Wenn immer mögend, wer immer angeregt, sicher "fokusierter" (sagt man glaubt meinereiner in der Szene hier) hier , bedarf natürlich auch in gewisse Hauslosigkeit zu ziehen (seinen Stand und Bezüge loszulassen), Haushälterin. Ist alles dem Überwinden des Leidens gewidmet und nicht an Welt bindendes "Grenzland, Anschlußgebiet ".

Dannach wurde es zu tumultartig.

Konnte Nyom Angela aus dem letzten Link etwas gewinnen? Ist Englisch (abseits Atmas schlechtem), zugänglich für sie?

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Your Real Home

Your external home isn't your real home.
It's your supposed home, your home in the world.
As for your real home, that's peace.
The Buddha has us build our own home
by letting go till we reach peace.

A home is binding. It needs to be build up. It needs to be maintained. It requires defend. And it's subject to decay, how ever hard one tries to hold on it. Once it breaks apart, once it can no more be maintained, the suffering get overwhelming to hold on, right after letting go another form get's grasped and building up, become, start anew.

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Through the round of many births I roamed
   without reward,
   without rest,
seeking the house-builder.
   Painful is birth
   again & again.

House-builder, you're seen!
You will not build a house again.
All your rafters broken,
the ridge pole dismantled,
immersed in dismantling, the mind
has attained to the end of craving.

These verses were the Buddha's first utterance after his full Awakening. For some reason, they are not reported in any of the other canonical accounts of the events following on the Awakening.
DhpA: "House" = selfhood; house-builder = craving. "House" may also refer to the nine abodes of beings — the seven stations of consciousness and two spheres (see Khp 4 and DN 15 ).

The word anibbisam in 153 can be read either as the negative gerund of nibbisati ("earning, gaining a reward") or as the negative gerund of nivisati, altered to fit the meter, meaning "coming to a rest, settled, situated." Both readings make sense in the context of the verse, so the word is probably intended to have a double meaning: without reward, without rest.


To understand the universe, world, home, the Buddha does not what use to go astray in the manifold phenomena outwardly but points us on the mico-level of the pattern.

So how does this housebuilding, becoming (bhava) and birth (jati) take place, again and again?

There being the sensebase eye, having come into being by not-knowing, thirst, when there is touch (phassa) on the eye, feeling (vedanā arises. When feeling arises, craving (taṇha) arises, when craving arises, graspholding (entertaining, unter-halten upādāna arises, when graspholding arises, becoming (bhava) arises. When becoming arises, birth/stand/state/home (jāti arises. And with it aging, sickness, death, seperation from beloved, union with unpleasing, sorrow, lamention... the whole suffering comes into play.

There being the sensebase ear...

...nose...

...tongue...

...body...

...intellect feeling (vedanā arises. When feeling arises, craving (taṇha) arises, when craving arises, graspholding (upādāna arises, when graspholding arises, becoming (bhava) arises. When becoming arises, birth/stand/state/home (jāti arises. And with it aging, sickness, death, seperation from beloved, union with unpleasing, sorrow, lamention... the whole suffering comes into play.

So is it that from house/stand/birth suffering comes into play, home/stand/birth being the reason for suffering.

For the larger picture:

And this is the way to understand how from birth as a requisite condition come aging and death. If there were no birth at all, in any way, of anything anywhere — i.e., of devas in the state of devas, of celestials in the state of celestials, of spirits in the state of spirits, of demons in the state of demons, of human beings in the human state, of quadrupeds in the state of quadrupeds, of birds in the state of birds, of snakes in the state of snakes, or of any being in its own state — in the utter absence of birth, from the cessation of birth, would aging and death be discerned?”

“No, lord.”

“Thus this is a cause, this is a reason, this is an origination, this is a requisite condition for aging and death, i.e., birth.

With touch by an object, feeling toward the object arises. Like seeing a nice house on the road and pleasing feeling arises. Or when touched by the uglyness of the own home, dismay may arise.

With feeling desire arises. Desire for that nice home. Desire for another home.

Once desire arises, graspholding asises. Like if one holds on the perception of the nice house.

Graspholding becoming arises. As one starts to get it, to build it up.

Once becoming has been arosen, birth, taking a stand, moving into it, takes place, and by this completion of identification, stand, aging, sickness, what ever burden with it to maintain, and lastly breaking apart comes into play.

This is the truth of the cause of suffering.

Now with the total fading of not-knowing, desire, this/that base does not give ways of touch. No touch, no feeling. No feeling, no desire. No desire, no graspholding/nurishing, no nurishing, no becoming, building up, no becoming, no taking stand/birth. No birth, all suffering comes to cessation.

Why is there desire, craving, at first place? Because one thinks that sense and it's objects are real, a refuge, a secure dwelling to rest.

Now it needs to be investigated, no reason at all to believe, whether the eye or the forms touching the eye, are real, lasting, a refuge or if the eye (the sensebase), is decaying, changing, actually total out of ones leasting controll. Whether form, an impression (touch), is lasting, real, or the form itself, wood, stone, the construction, is constant, or actually not real, always changing and steady on decay.

Conncentration with proper, birth-giving, attention, right here and now, on the eye-base, touch, the object does one let it see for oneself, without need to relay on faith on it, or logical agreement.

The same investigation goes on for the ear and sound: real, lasting? Nose and smell: real, lasting, under controll? The tongue and tast: real, lasting, or decay steady and fast on and on? Body and bodily touch: is it lasting this body, inwardly, outwardly, or steady changing, decaying, renewed? Touch, soft, hard, warm cold, here and there, pleasing, unpleasing, able to sit and rest for a while without burden? Is the touch, the object, are the real, lasting, under control?

And the Intellect and thought, ideas: lasting, real, a refuge to hold on, under control?

Once it is discerned that eye and form, touch, feeling and what ever arises around the home eye is not real, no refuge, not under ones controll, without any lasting essence, getting disenchanted from this home arises, from this stand, and gains independency and release form the eye and form.

Discerning the ear and sound... nose and smell... tongue and aroma... body and physical touch...

Once it is discerned that intellect and thought, touch, feeling and what ever arises around the home intellect is not real, no refuge, not under ones controll, without any lasting essence, getting disenchanted from this home arises, from this stand, and gains independency and release form the intellect and ideas.

Once having left home/stand, knowing on how things are, no more longing for another arises, the task done, no more for this world, any stand, released, the Unbond, Deathless reached.

Atma thought that this will explain all notions, angles on householder at once and give vision and release.

May Nyom angela and all others, Nyom Cheav Villa ... always find much time to let go of home/stand, whether outwardly still bond by debts or not: i.e live the Brahmachariya, a holly life.
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Since Ear, eye, nose, tongue, body… till Jhana is inconstant..

May all under instruction of the Buddha Dhamma and Sangha seeking and discerning right in developing the Bramavihara untill reached peace.

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Sadhu, yes. The dwelling, home, stand in any kind of state, what ever concentration, isn't real and fabricated, yet good to chose one of the refined homes for a living of the holly life. Dwellings, pleasure depending on the five sense is not only raw, but cause much suffering, for oneself and many, is the reason for conflicts, killing, stealing... wars.

The realm of the Brahmas is one pleasing dwelling, also to investigate the circle of becoming. And a dwelling that does not really depend on others lose. So

Thus far the Buddha has shown the practice of mettā meditation which can reach up to the attainment of the third mettā jhāna[1]. Being called the 'Divine Living', this attainment is still a mundane level of peace.
He now proceeds to mention in the last verse the practice of insight meditation (vipassanā) by stating:

10. And not holding to [wrong] view,
Being virtuous, endowed with right vision,
And discarding desire for sensual pleasures,
One surely never again will be reborn in a womb.


The aim of insight meditation is firstly the not holding to or the complete freedom from wrong view (micchā diṭṭhi). It is the decisive liberating practice for the removal of wrong view and the culmination of that perfect peace, nibbāna. The resulting attainment is called the 'Noble Living' (ariya-vihāra), and is the supramundane level of peace. It comprises the four supramundane 'fruition attainments' (phala-samāpatti), namely, the fruition of Stream-entry (sotāpatti-phala), Once-return (sakadāgāmi-), Non-return (anāgāmi-) and Arahantship (arahatta-phala).
 1. Classical Mahavihara tradition, Abhidhamma, Commentary Tradition, as Bhantes, deny that four Jhana and Arahatship can be reached by means of metta


This is also the way of unshakeable relation-ship to the Buddha and Noble Ones, a relation not possible to decay, to break apart, no more needing hard maintaining and gaining, relation with highes peace.
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