My person just received a call by Bhante
Indaññāno who patiently and generously tried to investigate the matter of "milk"
khīra and "milk-drinks"
payopānaṃ.
Investigating the matters known under this names it worked out that
payopānaṃ seemingly is means "milk-drink/products" and it's also reported that
dadhi ("yogurt") is a very common tonic in the afternoon in Sri Lanka. In Cambodia
payopānaṃ is only known as a liquid mix of rice-water with sugar and milk for for sick.
So as it seems there should be no fear to take products mixed with milk, based on milk, even is not having reached the state of butter or ghee in the afternoon when sick. Again, it's not to be seen as one of the five store-able tonics but under the group mentioned sorted in the Mahanidessa.
My Person would be pleased if the Ven. Sirs with more access to so desired scholar approaches would be able to give an approve and may it also be forwarded so that certain books and teaching available in the west might get needed corrections. Not sure if Bhante Thanissaro is reachable via
Dhammatalks .
Bhante
Ariyadhammika , Bhante
Varado , also maybe reachable Bhante
Nyanadassana and Bhante
Bhikkhu Anon (also much engaged in investigations and share of them)...
Vinaya is really a Sangha issue, something that need to be clarified in a larger assembly and it makes no sense at this times of very less rest to produce something special in the backyards and present it then to a large audience. May be Bhantes please use given possibilities which are detached from trade and group-interest (sakkayaditthi).
May person has no means to present things in pleasing manner for many but the Venerables, skilled in such, would have the possibility to use the raw material provided.
It's not possible to trace the heartwood of this tradition in books or in scholar area, dry researches, but need to look after the many small parts here and there still practiced, incl. the knowledge of certain conditions and kind of Dukkha not accessible for especially Devas.
Ven. Kassapa wasn't a scholar, citer, knowing much of conventions, text, and nevertheless he was most useful in gathering the important as one having been on the front all the time. Maybe something to consider. Yet without "system sustainer", "administration department", meaning a large assembling including the dry parts, Sangha, it wouldn't work either. Practice, Knowledge and System-evaluation, all three are necessary to keep the special army alive.