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2020 Feb 19 12:05:18
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Feb 18 21:27:07
Johann: Nyom

2020 Feb 18 21:02:57
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Feb 18 09:12:06
Danilo: Bhante Johann _/\_

2020 Feb 18 09:10:31
Johann: Nyom Danilo

2020 Feb 16 22:24:43
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 Feb 16 10:54:04
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Feb 16 06:43:32
Johann: A blessed Sila day all today, observing the Uposatha Silas

2020 Feb 15 22:34:40
Danilo: Bhante _/\_

2020 Feb 15 22:31:22
Johann: Nyom Danilo

2020 Feb 15 14:16:33
Cheav Villa:  : *thumb* _/\_

2020 Feb 15 13:51:34
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 Feb 12 23:36:22
Moritz: Chom reap leah, good night _/\_

2020 Feb 12 23:04:39
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Feb 12 23:04:24
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Feb 12 23:03:33
Moritz: Bang Villa _/\_

2020 Feb 12 22:57:44
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Feb 10 18:34:34
Johann: Nyom

2020 Feb 10 15:06:07
Sophorn:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_ Vandami Bhante

2020 Feb 10 15:05:31
Sophorn: Meister Moritz  _/\_

2020 Feb 10 14:10:41
Moritz: Bang Sophorn _/\_

2020 Feb 09 21:43:05
Johann:  _/\_ Bhante Ariyadhammika

2020 Feb 09 19:11:06
Johann: Nyom

2020 Feb 09 19:06:51
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Feb 09 19:06:36
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Feb 09 18:53:15
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Feb 08 22:38:59
Johann: Wie immer zugeneigt, Nyom.

2020 Feb 08 17:21:10
Sophorn:  _/\_ Bhante, es lässt sich nicht hochladen. Kana macht das wie gehabt _/\_

2020 Feb 08 06:18:20
Johann: A blessed full moon Uposatha, a blessed Magha Puja, Sangha day, all today.

2020 Feb 06 20:30:12
Johann:  _/\_ Bhante Ariyadhammika

2020 Feb 04 14:45:08
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Feb 01 06:40:40
Johann: A blessed Sila-day in Union all. May it be by nobody missed for certain not so benifical things.

2020 Jan 31 10:22:34
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 31 07:05:45
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 30 11:25:07
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 30 08:44:22
Johann: Bhante Ariyadhammika  _/\_

2020 Jan 30 05:03:27
Johann: Nyom

2020 Jan 30 03:22:25
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 30 02:39:50
Moritz: Sadhu for good wishes, brother Vivek. Maybe good for another topic :) _/\_

2020 Jan 29 20:10:42
Vivek:  :-|  :) Be courageous for wholesomeness.  :-\  ^-^ but don't attach to it  _/\_  *sgift* . All Youngsters-- be a Veera(celibacy)  ;-)  to reach mahaveera(buddha).  Live and let others live in R.I.P.(rest in peace)  <.I.>

2020 Jan 29 16:05:37
Cheav Villa: Welcome Master Moritz :) _/\_

2020 Jan 29 13:44:04
Moritz: I finally arrived :)

2020 Jan 29 13:43:56
Moritz:  Brother Vivek _/\_

2020 Jan 29 13:43:46
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 28 13:04:10
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 28 12:31:39
Johann: Atmas "sleeping rock" is always a well protected place. The fire now moving fast east into the village, may it case no harm and destruction for all.

2020 Jan 28 12:12:48
Cheav Villa: May Bhante could find a safe place during this fire time _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 26 12:06:21
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 25 23:25:33
Johann: Nyom Villa

2020 Jan 24 09:58:40
Johann: As thought, incl. the Devas.

2020 Jan 24 08:29:47
Cheav Villa: He kept walking on road num 3 _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 24 08:28:40
Cheav Villa: But could not help only giving drinking water. Bhante told his lost in this area 3days ago then he walr

2020 Jan 24 08:24:26
Cheav Villa: with Dad and Srey muk kamao, going to visit His Grand ma Grand pa. Fortunately he met Bhante Khmema kumara on the main road

2020 Jan 24 08:22:10
Cheav Villa: Kana Bhante this morning aroung 7.30 kana son arrived near Psar Tram kna on national road number3

2020 Jan 24 08:20:39
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 24 07:05:21
Johann: A blessed chinese new year, new moon Uposatha those who celebrate it today.

2020 Jan 23 21:53:22
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 23 21:46:43
Johann: Sokh chomreoun

2020 Jan 23 21:25:30
Cheav Villa: Vandami Bhante :) _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 23 11:48:02
Johann: A blessed and fruitful new moon Uposatha, those observing it today

2020 Jan 22 13:30:29
Johann: May Sukha come to fulfillment, Nyom. It's well for now.

2020 Jan 22 09:39:03
Danilo: did Bhante's health get better?

2020 Jan 22 09:37:11
Danilo: Bhante Johann _/\_

2020 Jan 21 19:20:53
Johann: Meister Moritz

2020 Jan 21 19:01:10
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 21 13:09:02
Johann: Blind like ants are being believing in technic, scients and incapable to trace where and how effects take their cause.

2020 Jan 20 19:30:27
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 19 20:32:04
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 19 20:29:34
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 19 15:01:46
Johann: some moved to topic here

2020 Jan 19 10:20:11
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 19 10:03:16
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 18 08:14:54
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 18 05:57:52
Johann: A blessed and fruitful Sila day

2020 Jan 17 19:19:18
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 17 18:37:01
Cheav Villa:  _/\_

2020 Jan 17 18:14:15
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 17 13:39:36
Sophorn: Many greetings to everyone,

2020 Jan 17 13:39:19
Sophorn:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 17 10:29:19
Johann: "so, now I go up and clear the area a little, make some merits, and I will not share my merits, with anybody..."  ^-^

2020 Jan 17 08:49:11
Chanroth: ធ្វើអាស្រមហើយចេញពីរសេចក្ដីល្អ ធ្វើអ្វីដើម្បីខ្លួល្អជាង

2020 Jan 17 08:45:08
Chanroth: សូមលាហើយ

2020 Jan 17 08:33:16
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 17 06:56:27
Johann: A blessed and fruitful Uposatha, those observing it today.

2020 Jan 17 06:45:45
Johann: Nyom Moritz

2020 Jan 17 06:44:49
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 16 23:01:31
Moritz: Mr. Lew _/\_

2020 Jan 15 14:16:00
Cheav Villa:  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 15 11:15:29
Moritz: _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 15 11:12:01
Johann: Nyom

2020 Jan 15 10:24:02
Cheav Villa: Master Moritz _/\_

2020 Jan 15 10:21:50
Moritz: Bong Villa _/\_

2020 Jan 15 10:11:56
Moritz: Vandami Bhante _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 22:22:36
Moritz: Chom reap leah _/\_

2020 Jan 12 22:04:02
Moritz: _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:34:30
Cheav Villa: Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu  _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

2020 Jan 12 21:31:02
Johann: Sokh chomreoun, may happiness come to fullfillment, all

2020 Jan 12 21:27:15
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2020 Jan 12 21:26:54
Cheav Villa:  Kana Bhante _/\_ _/\_  _/\_

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Re: migration of websites to different hosting provider
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2020, 03:53:16 PM »
As it just came to mind, that Nyom Moritz once mentioned a web tool "kamboja.js ", althought not even know what it is and it's use, just remembering the meaning of "Kampuchea " (kamma pūjā, (obtained by own) deeds of effort/sacrifices), Atma thought to relink it in this topic so that found again if any need for such.
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Re: migration of websites to different hosting provider
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2020, 03:47:37 AM »
The time before travelling was too busy to get much done.
And most time was wasted setting up an e-mail server, which turns out to be the most difficult to maintain by oneself. Mostly just because large e-mail providers like to keep their dominance, and nowadays it is not easy for a small self-maintained e-mail server to get "trusted".
Mail configuration is mostly set up and configured with all settings correct on the new server.

For now, the server is set up to send and receive e-mails from ...@zugangzureinsicht.org (which is totally moved from Greensta to Hetzner for now), maybe the "least important" of the three domains dedicated for the Sangha.
One thing I forgot was the Anumodana mailing list. It is lost now, but could be set up again, with the same "mailman" software, or maybe something similar.

I think it would be good to use the new e-mail server for e-mails from ...@sangham.net and ...@accesstoinsight.eu as well to have everything maintained in one place again. But, as mentioned, the difficulty is in getting the e-mail server "trusted" by the large providers so that it will not land all automatically in spam for recipients using GMail, Outlook, Hotmail, AOL, ... I have read a lot about it and set up everything that should be required. But large providers give no transparency how they come up with their "trust". Reading experiences from others with the same headaches, it seems, things generally get better as soon as there is some e-mail traffic with some "positive engagement", i.e. recipients marking messages as "not spam" (of course they would first need to look in "spam" to find it), maybe even adding to "known contacts" or similar, possibly replying back and forth a few times, etc... Then the mail servers of large e-mail providers with their machine learning algorithms "learn" slowly to trust this new unknown server as not being a spammer.

Having tested the same setup for a different own domain and server, I have had some seemingly good success with getting e-mails from there trusted by GMail at least. So I think, with a small "engagement campaign" here, with some people here helping by marking as "not spam", replying etc., the same success could be achieved for the new server using mails ...@zugangzureinsicht.org, ...@sangham.net etc.

Maybe best to revive the Anumodana mailing list for that as a first step, using the new server, and add recipients known from the Forum who would mark them as "not spam" etc. I would make a new topic for that as soon as having set up the mailing list again and before sending out the first "Anumodana" from there.

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Re: migration of websites to different hosting provider
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2020, 04:00:24 AM »
Apart from that, I am now going to re-install web server software on the new server now (using nginx instead of apache, which seems better to me). So zugangzureinsicht.org might not be reachable for a short time.

And for finally moving the accesstoinsight.eu and sangham.net websites to the new servers I am going to then also prepare everything already. But the final move should better be made when being more "settled" here and forseeable having time to deal with possible unexpected troubles. (Also, I think the "auth-codes" for moving the domains are probably already expired, and would need to be asked for another time from Greensta. Still time, better to do that when Bang Sophorn is back in Austria.)

If having more similar quiet time like now I think lots of other useful things could be done here. :)

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Re: migration of websites to different hosting provider
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2020, 05:02:59 AM »
Sadhu, Sadhu but may Nyom focus on arrive and slow down fist.

Email: honestly, if people are wished to be caught in the prisons of industry, then they should so. As my person always says, one has to leave home or palace first to get Dhamma know. No need to join the war or get much in trade.

Atma thinks that if all is nearly an intranet, it's also well.

It's like at the Ashram here. It's no lose (for those on path) that there is just a small path and so it's actually no lose for the Sangha to get cut off.

Good how ever, if Nyom wins some distance to the internet realm and endless tasks fist.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2020, 05:21:08 AM by Johann »
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Re: migration of websites to different hosting provider
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2020, 07:06:49 AM »
As for a quite place, sure the Ashram is perfect, maybe 110W Solar panel needed to run a normal laptop long time. Connection is mostly fast.

My person is not sure in how far the knowledge-able Venerables are interested in assistance, quite withdrawn from world and philosophical hypocrisy, but my person has the feeling that Bhante Ariyadhammika is one who can gain certain Vision (has not fallen into certain modern delusions), might have touched the spirit of the Buddhas disciples, and maybe willing to assist for the long term existance of the Savaka Sangha. It's possible good if Nyom ask's personally, direct, for assistance to errect a suiteable dwelling and "social-system" for the Sangha in modern world. Bhante Subhuti Subharo, next to him, but also there Ven. Abbot might be able to grasp the Vision rightly, in accordiance with the Dhamma-Vinaya and it's aim, willing to leave home and stands behind.

If there are ways to come to an account on sanghan.net, Atma actually sees no reason for the need of own email adress. What for? And if there would be need to correspond outside, devoted lay people could deliver messages.

There had been also ideas that a certain sub-forum might function as a income place for mails.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2020, 05:37:39 PM by Johann »
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Re: migration of websites to different hosting provider
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2020, 11:25:49 AM »
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Sadhu. I had similar thoughts, so am glad to hear confirmation of my opinion that approval from Microsoft, Google & Co. is not so much needed.
I just thought, good to preserve whatever possibilities existed on the old servers, including e-mail, which I think is useful to have for the Sangha in its own domain.

So I will try to start to switch e-mail service over to the new server as soon as possible, maybe already this evening. It needs some overlay time, a while where both servers will still work for sending, and to give notice to all e-mail users that server settings will change soon etc., as well as set up some forwarding for the interim time from the old to the new.

Anumodana mailing list is also alomst finished to revive now. A small internal "campaign" of sending and answering / marking as "not spam" of e-mails by active participants in the forum might help a bit without much "fight" or harm, and maybe also useful to transport the message that new server is being used from now on / soon.

As long as being in Phnom Penh this all seems to be a good use of the time.
Now going with Bang Sophorn to meet Pou Vithou for talking about visa matters.

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