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Author Topic: 'Conncentration! Conncentration!', they say. But on what?  (Read 551 times)

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'Conncentration! Conncentration!', they say. But on what?
« on: November 26, 2019, 06:58:22 AM »
What does Ven./Nyom Guest think: On what should one conncentrated for long term happiness? Where to hold focus on, which relations to give up?
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Re: 'Conncentration! Conncentration!', they say. But on what?
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2019, 08:01:53 PM »
Not sure. Not always easy to concentrate on what is good, even surrounded by good relations.
For example, running after making money, to maybe have some freedom later on, to travel possibly, even to just satisfy perceptions/imaginations of others of what would be good. Feeling a sense of duty there. Having been promised a lot, needing to promise a lot in return, not sure if it will all work out in the end, but spending a lot of time.
Or being content with little, just enough to get by from day to day, leaving time to do what seems worthy to do. But maybe then missing the means later on, to keep such freedom, and to what would seem even more worthy to be able to do with one's own time.

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Re: 'Conncentration! Conncentration!', they say. But on what?
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2019, 09:29:24 PM »
ព្រះករុណាព្រះអង្គ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

គឺជាសម្មាសមាធិ សេចក្តីដំកល់ចិត្តទុកដោយប្រពៃ ។
 គឺដំកល់ចិត្តទុកហើយគប្បីពិចារណាថា ÷
១. កាយមិនទៀង ដើម្បីលះនិច្ចសញ្ញាក្នុងកាយ ។
២. វេទនាមិនទៀង ដើម្បីលះនិច្ចសញ្ញាក្នុងវេទនាទាំងឡាយ ។
៣. ចិត្តជាទុក្ខ ដើម្បីលះសុខសញ្ញាក្នុងចិត្ត ។
៤. ធម្មជាអនត្តា ដើម្បីលះអត្តសញ្ញាក្នុងធម្មទាំងឡាយ ។

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Brah Karuna, Brah Ang,

that is sammāsamādhi, the quality of staying with the mind on it very well. When the mind holds well already, the one should reflect:
1. kāya (Body/group) isn't for sure/secure, to abound nicca-sañña (security-perception) toward the Body/group [ sakkāyadiṭṭhi => not holding/amassing a stand at groups]
2. Feeling isn't for sure, to be able to abound security-perceptions toward all (kind of) feelings.
3. Citta (mind) is dukkha (stress), so that sukkha-perception about mind will be abound.
4. Dhamma is anatta, so that all attasañña toward Dhamma are abounded.

* Johann : transl. added
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Re: 'Conncentration! Conncentration!', they say. But on what?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2019, 09:35:01 PM »
Not sure. Not always easy to concentrate on what is good, even surrounded by good relations.
For example, running after making money, to maybe have some freedom later on, to travel possibly, even to just satisfy perceptions/imaginations of others of what would be good. Feeling a sense of duty there. Having been promised a lot, needing to promise a lot in return, not sure if it will all work out in the end, but spending a lot of time.
Or being content with little, just enough to get by from day to day, leaving time to do what seems worthy to do. But maybe then missing the means later on, to keep such freedom, and to what would seem even more worthy to be able to do with one's own time.

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Oh yes, all the time, this sense lure calling "come, come...", Nyom. No-returner have abound it totally, the desires for sensual becoming, here and their.

A long term resolve, aim, best liberation, is good. And if wandering on, also here, virtue, each and every step, is the cause of also wealth and by higher reason/nobler, as spoken, it's also not a fault not to keep promise.

What ever attained on virtue, little or much, holds long. What ever quick attained, even very much, without Sila, is for no long time happiness, requires steady defend and as Sila is also the reason for long-life, it's no wonder why "manager", billion rich, die off by 50-55 or even younger.

It's therfore, as support, that the Buddha suggested also lay people to reflect often on death since nothing follow one into the next moment, day, most "visible" life, then effects of ones deeds.

In SouthEAsia people invest much into Dana, kind of bribery, and aren't very happy when hearing that this wouldn't work. Even if some time able to spend on the beach, when off, either again anew, maybe then a different polce-chief, the old struggle, or even seized on the beach, steedy remorse and hard to concentrate. So good to go after the safe bet all the time, not focus on fruits but deeds, and not going after, when another insecure starts to shine on the side of the road. Thats Mara.

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Re: 'Conncentration! Conncentration!', they say. But on what?
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2019, 10:16:34 PM »
ព្រះករុណាព្រះអង្គ _/\_ _/\_ _/\_

គឺជាសម្មាសមាធិ សេចក្តីដំកល់ចិត្តទុកដោយប្រពៃ ។
 គឺដំកល់ចិត្តទុកហើយគប្បីពិចារណាថា ÷
១. កាយមិនទៀង ដើម្បីលះនិច្ចសញ្ញាក្នុងកាយ ។
២. វេទនាមិនទៀង ដើម្បីលះនិច្ចសញ្ញាក្នុងវេទនាទាំងឡាយ ។
៣. ចិត្តជាទុក្ខ ដើម្បីលះសុខសញ្ញាក្នុងចិត្ត ។
៤. ធម្មជាអនត្តា ដើម្បីលះអត្តសញ្ញាក្នុងធម្មទាំងឡាយ ។

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Brah Karuna, Brah Ang,

that is sammāsamādhi, the quality of staying with the mind on it very well. When the mind holds well already, the one should reflect:
1. kāya (Body/group) isn't for sure/secure, to abound nicca-sañña (security-perception) toward the Body/group [ sakkāyadiṭṭhi => not holding/amassing a stand at groups]
2. Feeling isn't for sure, to be able to abound security-perceptions toward all (kind of) feelings.
3. Citta (mind) is dukkha (stress), so that sukkha-perception about mind will be abound.
4. Dhamma is anatta, so that all attasañña toward Dhamma are abounded.

* Johann : transl. added

Sadhu Nyom Cheav Villa , but how can samma, right concentration, be gained, since the pattern works ordinary right in the same way, just mistaking nicca with anicca. As Nyom Moritz brought up. "See! there is more to gain. That's then really a refuge". What's the base that right concentration arises and not wrong as usually? What to take on to do not burn off merits, while strong engaged in conncentration (cutting, burning "non"-essence away)? What's the base for gaining right development? right Samādāna (taking upon oneself, undertaking, acquiring, better translated as "giving good into, perfect falling for), Samādāna what?

Or is it a notoric spelling issue and should be samādhāna (putting together, fixing), Vidudimagga says: 84 (=sammā ādhānaŋ ṭhapanaŋ) in defn of samādhi as "samādhān' aṭṭhena."

My person strongly tends to -> samma-dāna or samā-adhana and dāna is also the word for candle, first.

Chou Ñāt counts for samādhāna "ការ​ទាញ​អារម្មណ៍​ឲ្យ​តាំង​នៅ​នឹង, ការ​ចុះ​ចិត្ត​ស៊ប់​មាំ, សមាធិ; ការ​កាន់​សម្ដី​ទៀងទាត់​តាម​ប្តេជ្ញា : ធ្វើ​សមាធាន​ឲ្យ​មាន​អារម្មណ៍​នឹង​ធឹង​ល្អ ។.

Holding on or letting go? And what fist, to get sure not to dwell and give into micchāsamādhi?
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Re: 'Conncentration! Conncentration!', they say. But on what?
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Guṇā Brah Añga,

Samadhi settles when there is Āsraya (pali [lkm]អាសយ[/lkm], āsaya, saturated, śrī+jati to become ripe, come to perfection, used also for "freedom"), when having" pītī (satisfied).
That's the relative/husband (so that there is) of joyfullness (sukha) while "carrying on livelihood" (for live) in frame of happiness on sīla (moral virtue) 

Silena sugatiṁ yanti .
Through virtue they go to a good born. 

Silena bhoga-sampadā.
Through virtue is wealth attained.

Silena nibbutiṁ yanti.
Through virtue they go to liberation.

Tasma silaṁ visodhaye .
Therefore we should purify our virtue.

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* Johann : tranl. with explainings of meaning of words added
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Re: 'Conncentration! Conncentration!', they say. But on what?
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2019, 12:13:54 AM »
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សម្មាសមាធិ តាំងនៅបាន អាស្រ័យមានបិតី ។ ជាគ្រហស្ថគប្បីត្រេកអរតែក្នុងការចិញ្ចឹមជីវិត ជាសុខនៅក្នុងសីល ។


Guṇā Brah Añga,

Samadhi settles when there is Āsraya (pali [lkm]អាសយ[/lkm], āsaya, saturated, śrī+jati to become ripe, come to perfection, used also for "freedom"), when having" pītī (satisfied).
That's the relative/husband (so that there is) of joyfullness (sukha) while "carrying on livelihood" (for live) in frame of happiness on sīla (moral virtue) 

Silena sugatiṁ yanti .
Through virtue they go to a good born. 

Silena bhoga-sampadā.
Through virtue is wealth attained.

Silena nibbutiṁ yanti.
Through virtue they go to liberation.

Tasma silaṁ visodhaye .
Therefore we should purify our virtue.

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* Johann : tranl. with explainings of meaning of words added

Sadhu, Sadhu

So that no micchadhi (wrong falling for) arises, for short release:

Sammā-dāna (worthy giving, perfect giving) + refined sammā-ādhāna (perfect collecting: with no hurt) = "samādāna sīla" (usual expression for asking/takingholding on the precepts) => gives Samādhāna (perfect collecting, focusing) = sammā-samādhi#illustrated_glossary_of_pāli_terms.

No need to focus on right conncentration. Why?

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa

Cetana Sutta: An Act of Will

“For a person endowed with virtue, consummate in virtue, there is no need for an act of will, 'May freedom from remorse arise in me.' It is in the nature of things that freedom from remorse arises in a person endowed with virtue, consummate in virtue.

“For a person free from remorse, there is no need for an act of will, 'May joy arise in me.' It is in the nature of things that joy arises in a person free from remorse.

“For a joyful person, there is no need for an act of will, 'May rapture arise in me.' It is in the nature of things that rapture arises in a joyful person.

“For a rapturous person, there is no need for an act of will, 'May my body be serene.' It is in the nature of things that a rapturous person grows serene in body.

“For a person serene in body, there is no need for an act of will, 'May I experience pleasure.' It is in the nature of things that a person serene in body experiences pleasure.

“For a person experiencing pleasure, there is no need for an act of will, 'May my mind grow concentrated.' It is in the nature of things that the mind of a person experiencing pleasure grows concentrated.

“For a person whose mind is concentrated, there is no need for an act of will, 'May I know & see things as they actually are.' It is in the nature of things that a person whose mind is concentrated knows & sees things as they actually are.

“For a person who knows & sees things as they actually are, there is no need for an act of will, 'May I feel disenchantment.' It is in the nature of things that a person who knows & sees things as they actually are feels disenchantment.

“For a person who feels disenchantment, there is no need for an act of will, 'May I grow dispassionate.' It is in the nature of things that a person who feels disenchantment grows dispassionate.

“For a dispassionate person, there is no need for an act of will, 'May I realize the knowledge & vision of release.' It is in the nature of things that a dispassionate person realizes the knowledge & vision of release.

“In this way, dispassion has knowledge & vision of release as its purpose, knowledge & vision of release as its reward. Disenchantment has dispassion as its purpose, dispassion as its reward. Knowledge & vision of things as they actually are has disenchantment as its purpose, disenchantment as its reward. Concentration has knowledge & vision of things as they actually are as its purpose, knowledge & vision of things as they actually are as its reward. Pleasure has concentration as its purpose, concentration as its reward. Serenity has pleasure as its purpose, pleasure as its reward. Rapture has serenity as its purpose, serenity as its reward. Joy has rapture as its purpose, rapture as its reward. Freedom from remorse has joy as its purpose, joy as its reward. Skillful virtues have freedom from remorse as their purpose, freedom from remorse as their reward.

“In this way, mental qualities lead on to mental qualities, mental qualities bring mental qualities to their consummation, for the sake of going from the near to the Further Shore.”

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Re: 'Conncentration! Conncentration!', they say. But on what?
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